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Best Radio ROM for T-Mobile UK

Hi, What is the best Radio ROM for my Vario II which curently has
Pro black 2.5
SPL 2.10 opli v7
Radio ROM 1.40
I use T-Mobile UK.
I don't think the signal quality is very good on 1.40 as I was on the phone and my wife said her voice was echoing...? I was using my bluetooth headset...but it never happened before the upgrade..? Before 1.40 I had 1.41 and I couldn't even connect to the network
Also, why does the start bar sometimes hide....? and how can I add a running programs shortcut on the bottom like I had on WM5..I can't seem to do it....?
Sorry for sounding like a newbie..I've looked in the WIKI but can't find it

I had some problems with 1.40, ranging from no radio at all to bricking the device.
What did you settle on in the end? I'm also on T-Mobile UK.

trapper said:
I had some problems with 1.40, ranging from no radio at all to bricking the device.
What did you settle on in the end? I'm also on T-Mobile UK.
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I'm still on the 1.40 and it works ok actually but I think it could be better.

I have had no problems so far with 1.40 radio and lvsw 23/4.

Hi,
I was using 1.40.30.00 and found it to be a great improvement over the other radio's
I mainly use my phone in West London and Central London.
I have now moved to 1.41.00.10 and will test it performance over the next few days.
Thanks
Msuk

Hi,
Radio 1.40.30.00 caused my battery to drain very fast. Since updating to version 1.41.00.10 I have had no problems.

I tried 1.41 but found it to be a bit less stable than 1.40 which I have gone back to. That seems to be about the best in my experience but they all have an issue with dropping calls/being unable to make receive calls if the phone is having problems switching back and forth between GSM/3G.

I found 1.40 my signal strength was very weak, compared to previous version i'd used, especially 1.38.
But i have just installed 1.41 and it seems better again, i'm going to stick with this for a while and see how i get on.
ps. i'm not sure the WM6 forum is the best place to be discussing radios

Thats wierd. I have the same setup as some of you guys and when I put 1.41 in my network didn't come at all. I don't really want to try it again. But i'm thinking if I should

I am using 1.38.30.1 - it feels much better than 1.40.. in terms of battery life and reception is stronger than my experience with all the other radios tried. Speed seems fine, HSDPA works fine. However I stay mostly on GSM to save battery due to poor reception at home and switch to 3G/ HSDPA only when really needed.

T-Mobile UK and 3G problems
Guys, please note that if you have problems with 3G coverage - for example missed calls or problems with making calls - it is probably network's fault, not necessarily Radio ROM. I was experiencing such problems while using original T-Mobile's WM5 ROM. People couldn't reach me while I've had full 3G coverage in Central London, and I also couldn't place any call at all. Switching manually to GSM-only mode solved all problems. I've complained to CS about that, they admitted to have some 3G issues, and gave £25 discount of my bill. Also, friend of mine having Nokia N70 also reported similar problems with 3G, he switched to GSM-only and is far more happy now.
Anyway, I was using 1.38 Radio for about 2 weeks with no problems whatsoever. Since yesterday I have 1.41 - so far, so good.

I agree. Switching manually to GSM used to solve the problem. In some areas it looked like GSM and 3G were changing every 2 seconds. But I do need 3G for fast browsing.

It may be network problems but you'd expect a radio to be able to switch seamlessly without impact the voice service though wouldn't you.

t-mobile UK radio trouble

I'm on radio 1.47 with black satin on tmob UK.
My mobile phone is useless when i speak to people all i can hear is a lot of crackle interspersed with words! I think they can here me.
Where can i find a radio to downgrade to and which is best for tmob uk?
ta
bb

No joy...
I have tried Black Satin on my phone and had no reception problems.
I have just tried my current set up (see sig.) using my T-Mob sim...I did not have any problems with reception.
There is the 1.48 radio from the AT&T rom listed in WIKI perhaps that will help.

bingobob said:
I'm on radio 1.47 with black satin on tmob UK.
My mobile phone is useless when i speak to people all i can hear is a lot of crackle interspersed with words! I think they can here me.
Where can i find a radio to downgrade to and which is best for tmob uk?
ta
bb
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bb,
I am on T-Mobile UK with the radio version 1.47 and have no problems at all. I am not sure that there was any advantage with the move to this radio from 1.43 and I have seen others indicate that 1.43 was a radio optimised for the UK so it might be worth changing to that.
All the radios are on this site here: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_ExtractedRadioRoms. You will also find links to the posts related to them so it may be worth a read. However, given your problem (which seems strange from what I have read and seen myself) I'd recommend checking you have HardSPL first then giving 1.43 a go. The highest numbers are certainly not always the best for everyone.
Good luck

t-mobile UK radio Problem
Try using radio 1.48, Im on t-mobile UK and using Schaps lastest 3.57a ROM with radio 1.48 its brilliant, no problems what so ever.

bingobob said:
I'm on radio 1.47 with black satin on tmob UK.
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Radio 1.47+Black Satin+T-Mobile UK = perfect for me.

i tried radio 1.47 and hardly got any signal so now using 1.43 wich is very good, did try 1.48 before and seemed very good holds on to 3g more than 1.43 i think so i'm going to go back to 1.48 very soon.

DT39 said:
i tried radio 1.47 and hardly got any signal so now using 1.43 wich is very good, did try 1.48 before and seemed very good holds on to 3g more than 1.43 i think so i'm going to go back to 1.48 very soon.
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So many of use are in doubt about the best radio - now if only we had a tool that monitored actual radio performance over a day or week of normal activity that could provide some form of objective assessment of performance of one radio and circumstances against another.
I find that for every 10 people in favour of a particular radio there are likely to be 10 more that think it is poor. Clearly locality (country/band/Edge/GPRS and 3G/HSDPA are all factors but? Can anyone create a capability to record forum user input for any given radio that also took account of location and provider - then we might more clearly see trends.
It is all too easy to be tempted by the latest radio and sometimes our assessments might well be clouded by anticipation rather than reality. I find that the apparent performance of the T-Mobile network is variable for even a given static location - that makes it difficult to make a sound judgement.
Ho hum... Shall I go back to 1.43 or give 1.48 a try?

I tried using 1.4.7 with Black Majic but it just didn't work that well.. I could here the other person perfectly however they could not hear a word I said.. I've upgraded to 1.48 and Black Satin and the reception is perfect (best yet) on T-Mobile UK.. only problem now is the wifi.
I've got a wireless N network and the signal in the house is full strength when connected however I have to manually click connect everytime using the option in the network settings.. The network is only using Mac Filtering so not sure what the problem is. I''ve tried to indicate that it is a hidden network but without joy. Anybody have any ideas?

1.46 is good for me (batt life is good too)
1.47 had issues,

Would it be possible to give your locations were you are experiancing these radio issues or bad call qaulity iusses please
Maxim123

Suggestion
Hi
Also T-Mobile UK - i have had problems with all custom roms - seems fine for a while then data dies requiring a reboot.
This changed with the new dopod release and 1.47.10 radio, then the latest sleuth 3.1 dev rom which is faultless for me.
I think the problem varies dependant on where in the uk you are, the sort of coverage you get - for the record im in Durham.
Steveapp

I'm in Cardiff, but I had issues in all South Wales with custom roms. The only one that worked fine with me is Orange 1.38.00.01 (I didn't even feel the need to try 1.48)

steveapp said:
Hi
Also T-Mobile UK - i have had problems with all custom roms - seems fine for a while then data dies requiring a reboot.
This changed with the new dopod release and 1.47.10 radio, then the latest sleuth 3.1 dev rom which is faultless for me.
I think the problem varies dependant on where in the uk you are, the sort of coverage you get - for the record im in Durham.
Steveapp
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agreed, but I'm still running an older radio and its working fine also. The Dopod rom is the nuts.
Neil.

Hi All
Im on Tmob UK and live in the Southampton area. I get a good signal in the area and frankly all the ater radios I have tried work ok. My particular problem is in builbding coverage in that I work in a large communications centre and inside the signal is poor to non existant. This is where I find the difference shows in the roms and the best for me is 1.27. It is one of the few roms that seems to reliably deal with a loss of signal and then reattaching the data connection after a period with no signal. It also seems to have the best poor signal acquisition.
Ive tried them all and have always gone back to 1.27, no others have been better and most have been worse.
Rob

problem with HTC tytn hermes 200

I bought an unlocked HTC TYTN Hermes 200 from a private party. He lives about 40 miles away from where I live and he used it with T-Mobile in California (I live in California also). Before I bought it, I tried it out (while I was in the same city that he lives in) with my T-Mobile SIM and made a phone call and the reception was clear.
Since I got home, I've had problems in 2 places (home and work which are about 5 miles apart) where I have 1 bar of reception and if someone tries calling me, it doesn't even show an incoming call on my phone, it goes straight to voice mail and if I try to call someone, it doesn't ring even once, it just says call ended. When I am at other places, I usually get decent reception (but not always).
I have tried flashing all of the recent radio firmware but nothing has made a difference. I also tried inserting another T-Mobile SIM and had the same problem. My previous phone (unlocked Treo 650) had really weak reception in those same areas but not this bad. The phone is not warrantied, according to HTC. I have made sure all my network settings are correct. It's running Windows Mobile 6. I think it might be a problem where the HTC antenna doesn't pick up a signal as well as weak T-Mobile reception.
Any ideas of what I can do about my problem ?

radio version?

I've tried every version from 1.38 to 1.48 and nothing changed with all of them. Right now I am using 1.40

Hmmm...
apparently there are no TyTn HW reason that can cause this problem...
Other peoples in that areas have low signal? (obviously yes)

vulkanxxv
well no not exactly....
wife has a razr with t-mo and it gets reception just fine. i dontknow anyone else with an htc.

towlieban said:
vulkanxxv
well no not exactly....
wife has a razr with t-mo and it gets reception just fine. i dontknow anyone else with an htc.
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Have you checked to make sure all the bands are active; like it is not set to only use certain frequencies and not others?

I have the band set to GSM (vs. Auto) and band is set to GSM(1900+850)+UMTS(1900+850). None of the other band settings seem to work.

oh and I updated the radio to 1.50. There is a small improvement where my phone rings half of the time when i call my cell from another phone.

HEY
I have had a simmilar problem in California, it doesnt make sence but what I did was flash the radio to the newest 1.50 and then re-install a new rom, and make sure you set the band selection to AUTO on both. NOT just the GSM-UMTS, but also the band frequency. and then power off the phone by pressing the off button and then turning it on. I have a TYTN too and HTC should warranty it, its guranteed for 2 years. Hope this helps.

jackieboy,
thanks for the tip. what rom are you using ? I am using black satin.
where abouts are you located ? I am about 1 hour east of los angeles I just want to get an idea if you are roughly in the same area as me.
Are you with T-Mobile also ?
After you did this, how many more bars of reception did you get ?
by the way, I changed network type from GSM to Auto and the band to Auto and no difference in reception. I haven't flashed a new rom yet though.

Try oficial ROM it cames with radio upgrade and is work very good for me.Also batery time increased .
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=320829

1.51 Radio issues

I've seen quite a few posts with people all over the world having issues with 3G internet issues with the 1.51 radio update? I would like to keep it because it is the fastest radio pertaining to phone response but the internet issue is big. It works fine on edge but when dropping into 3G, no success. I've seen some people have no problems at all and this internet issue seems random (I know its not). Anyone know a solution to this (besides going back to 1.50)?

bmark34 said:
I've seen quite a few posts with people all over the world having issues with 3G internet issues with the 1.51 radio update? I would like to keep it because it is the fastest radio pertaining to phone response but the internet issue is big. It works fine on edge but when dropping into 3G, no success. I've seen some people have no problems at all and this internet issue seems random (I know its not). Anyone know a solution to this (besides going back to 1.50)?
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Well, perhaps this radio versión is originaly intended for some carriers only.
For me, Orange Spain, works great with 3G and HSDPA. As great as 1.50 one.

1.51 issues
I've heard some have success on the same carrier (I'm in the US) and most are having the issue. I thought that originally too but I've seen people have it work on ATT and mine does not. 1.50 may become the solution after all.

bmark34 said:
I've heard some have success on the same carrier (I'm in the US) and most are having the issue. I thought that originally too but I've seen people have it work on ATT and mine does not. 1.50 may become the solution after all.
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i hear too that ATT is migrating his 3G network in some cityes. This can be the cause that works for someone and don't work for all ppl with ATT.
I only can say works great in Orange Spain.

jcespi2005 said:
i hear too that ATT is migrating his 3G network in some cityes. This can be the cause that works for someone and don't work for all ppl with ATT.
I only can say works great in Orange Spain.
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works great in Orange Israel

Working fine on the 3G Cingular network here in New Haven, CT also working fine on both ROGERS and FIDO neworks in Canada

... and it´s working great with Movistar here in Spain. As with other Radios you have to go with what suits your network best. I had loads of problems with 1.46, 1.47 and 1.48 but this (1.51) and 1.50 are fine here on my home network.

christonge said:
... and it´s working great with Movistar here in Spain. As with other Radios you have to go with what suits your network best. I had loads of problems with 1.46, 1.47 and 1.48 but this (1.51) and 1.50 are fine here on my home network.
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works great in germany-tmobile

I'm reading a lot of "1.51 works great" posts. It "works great" for me too unless I turn on 3G in a 3G coverage area. Then the internet access stops working. Since that is the problem specifically, please indicate whether you tested 3G internet. As of now I can only assume that everyone has.

3G working great for me in Los Angeles, CA. I'm actually in 3G area in San Fernando Valley for those in LA, but I haven't had a single problem.

Issues in UK?
Any one running this on T-Mobile UK?
Cheers

Not Working
In Kansas City area, with 3G connects but just shows "locating...." until finally says site not available. note: get 3G icon, switches to H icon and back but would not locate site)

rotohammer said:
I'm reading a lot of "1.51 works great" posts. It "works great" for me too unless I turn on 3G in a 3G coverage area. Then the internet access stops working. Since that is the problem specifically, please indicate whether you tested 3G internet. As of now I can only assume that everyone has.
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3G (and HSDPA) working perfectly in Toronto, Canada (ROGERS), and here in New Haven, CT (Cingular)

mccreath said:
Any one running this on T-Mobile UK?
Cheers
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Tried it and had to remove it straight away. It's a no-go I'm afraid.

Working great for me in Pakistan
with
Waridtel
Telenor
Mobilink
Ufone

South Florida, West Palm Beach to Miami, 3G working quite well.

Czech Republic,O2 Telefonica 3G,HSDPA working perfect

T-Mobile Netherlands, sucks!!!

rotohammer said:
I'm reading a lot of "1.51 works great" posts. It "works great" for me too unless I turn on 3G in a 3G coverage area. Then the internet access stops working. Since that is the problem specifically, please indicate whether you tested 3G internet. As of now I can only assume that everyone has.
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I am in Michigan on AT&T and I am having the smae problems as you, No UMTS at all If I turn off 3g I can get internet, but once i turn it on "can't load page error's" pop up. I noticed that in network setup that with 1.51 it defults to CDMA instead of GSM but even if I try to change it reverts back to Wcdma so I thought by reading these post of people that have a working ver that maybe thiar carrier is Cdma but I see AT&T post from Georgia and Texas that are having no problems and Cingular/AT&T are GSM only. So I am baffieled. I saw right off the bat a strong improvement in my bars after I flashed it. I normally see 2 to 3 and it jumped to 5 a strong 5 that is why I am hoping one of the super cooks can offer us a soultion. anyway good luck let me know if you find out .

This Radio woks gr8 for nordic Countries. i get it atry today its OK

GSM & CDMA

I'm trying out a new TP2-CDMA from Telus (Canada) and this is by far the best system I could ever try in my case. I've always been a GSM user (since 1994) mostly because it gives you the latitude of using what ever device you want just by inserting your SIM card. so I got the Phone Inserted my Rogers SIM in it and it got me on the Rogers network right away I then activated the phone on the Telus network and it is also working fine... of course...
But the best thing is that I set it on "Global" network and it stays on GSM (Rogers), and when I get to an area where there is no GSM signal it switches by it self to the CDMA (Telus) network!!! this is amazing! NO MORE DEAD SPOTS! Of course you need to have two Service contract from two different service provider, but if you absolutely need to get service in areas where your current provider does not offer any, well it sure beats the hell out of having two different cellphone in your pocket... I have set my main cell number to transfer to the other on "No Answer after X # rings" and I get all my calls no mater what network I'm on!
The only down side to this TP2-CDMA Unit is that Telus got rid of a bunch of stuff that is in the TP2-GSM... like the GPS for instance... Well I guess you can't have it all...
Just thought I'd share my joy...

The GPS is working, actually it works pretty well.

rick#2,
You are right, the GPS works.
I was trying it with Google Maps and could not make it work because GM does not seem to be able to get the data connection on the GSM network to load the maps and I thought it did not have the GPS but it does and all other Maps SW works on both GSM and CDMA, except GM that does only work on the CDMA network on this particular device...

I've been using the GSM connection for the TP2 down in the states and I stay purely CDMA up here in Canada. I'd like to say that HSPA works on the GSM network but no dice... unfortunately... don't know why.

Hopefully the 850/1900MHz bands that are possibly physically present on our Telus TP2s can be made available somewhere down the line. It's too bad they aren't up and running now, since I'm headed down to Mexico in a week and they are all 850/1900 down there for their UMTS network.

Yeah..
I know what you mean
Perhaps this one can solve the issues....
http://www.onthegosolutions.com/product.asp?itemMDL=HTC_TOUCH_PRO_2_US