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Firstly.. i'd like to know if every messaging software is thunderbird by default.. theres no other softwares rite??
well. . heres my problem.. im using faria's R32.. wm 6.1.. everything works great except for messaging..
at times.. i get lag and hangs on the messaging programme.. if in luck.. they phone mode will restart itself.. not soft reset.. but to reset the phone line and it tells me the message couldnt be sent.. if bad.. i'd have to soft reset myself...
and i couldnt receive messages.. not all.. but some of my frenz told me they sent the message but i jus couldnt receive them..
so anybody encouter this problem?? what should i do with it?
thanks in advance guys
I have had a couple odd issues with pocket outlook.
But for your question about thunderbird, I'm not sure what you mean. Thunderbird is the email client from the firefox/mozilla arena. Outlook is the Microsoft client.
Try creating a new email account on your phone, and name it something different, like, if it's from gmail, name it gmail.com, or gmail1, or something that is different from your current one. Then delete the old one. That has fixed some issues I have had in the past. I think a file gets corrupted, just not sure what file yet.
its not about microsoft outlook.. or thunderbird either.. i always thought the messaging software was thunderbird.. pardon me..
the problem it with the normal text messages. not emails or others.. couldnt it be rom problems?
Ahhh, ok! It very well could be a rom issue. I haven't tried the faria rom in a long time, so I really can't remember any issues that I might have had.
If you wanting a 6.1 rom, try crc's or mine. If you want 6.5, there are a bunch to try!
hmm.. i've tried schaps wm6.0 rom too.. its still having the problem.. but its now getting lesser.. but one problem still exist.. i cant receive messages from certain person.. like 3 guys tried to msg me but i couldnt receive.. others just works fine..
i did a backup on the rom.. so its not basically clean.. might it be the backup carrying the problem over to the new rom?
im having your rom already, just waiting to be flashed. haha.. i guess its very soon if problem still persist
If your trying to do pim backup with messages I have seen some little oddities going from one rom to another.
I have also seen text messages not go through, or just take forever, going from one provider to another. I don't think they always get along happily. Never any issues with messages on the same provider.
yeah.. i do full backup.. which includes the pim as well..
hmm.. i nvr had this problem when i was using an old phone.. non winmo phone.. well.. for everyone rom i tried now.. its giving me problem.. but its all backed-up. guess i'll be trying out all the roms
yay man.
i think ur rom has jus solved my problem. lol.
but just one thing bugs me bout ur rom.. the memory isnt at its optimum.. is there any possibilites u can make it like faria or crc's.. they go 27 to 28 mb after a restart..
Part of it is opal phone canvas, it is a bit of a hog on memory. You could try a different dialer, or there is a registry setting to turn off phone "skins" I'll have to find it again if you want to try that.
Do you have any issues with anything running? I work mine fairly hard during the day, and it never complains about being low or out of memory.
the rom
yea..it shud be the opal dialer tats taking up the memory.. if im not wrong it shud the cprog.exe process tats running. i ended it with task manager and about 5mb of memory was freed.
i personally prefer the default dialer.. im not sure whats the name but i prefer it.. theres a vid call button above the green talk button.. crc's and faria's rom run it.
hmm.. the prob i have it with the memory. when im running opera.. when a msg comes in and the messaging sofTware opens, opera will be closed.. maybe it because of memory. i have like 7 to 8mb free when i run opera.
any suggestions?
hmm.. ur rom really works well. one thing i cant get is to get button 5 as flashlight shortcut. it says it cantlocate the file name.
hope there can be a free memory released by u. or maybe a custom made for me. haha.. 'fingers crossed'
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yea..it shud be the opal dialer tats taking up the memory.. if im not wrong it shud the cprog.exe process tats running. i ended it with task manager and about 5mb of memory was freed.
i personally prefer the default dialer.. im not sure whats the name but i prefer it.. theres a vid call button above the green talk button.. crc's and faria's rom run it.
hmm.. the prob i have it with the memory. when im running opera.. when a msg comes in and the messaging sofTware opens, opera will be closed.. maybe it because of memory. i have like 7 to 8mb free when i run opera.
any suggestions?
hmm.. ur rom really works well. one thing i cant get is to get button 5 as flashlight shortcut. it says it cantlocate the file name.
hope there can be a free memory released by u. or maybe a custom made for me. haha.. 'fingers crossed'
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You can try this one wyeyip v1
great man.. thanks!!
downloading it rite now..
it that the full rom?
im using the lite one. this rom seems big.. 44mb.. where lite has 38mb only
I'll give this a try first. haha
wyeyip said:
great man.. thanks!!
downloading it rite now..
it that the full rom?
im using the lite one. this rom seems big.. 44mb.. where lite has 38mb only
I'll give this a try first. haha
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Ahh, yes that is the full. I can remove things that you don't want. Make a list of the items you would like to see taken out, and I'll build it.
seriously thanks man!
hmm.. i'd really like to learn to mod a rom myself.. but im having problems with it.. well kinda gave up trying it..
im really not sure what i need and what i dont.. basically.. i'll jus need an empty rom.. i use Crc's device update. that shouldnt be any problem.. besides i'll be doing a full backup.. everything will be restored..
ur original LITE rom will be fine for me. and would be good if theres more storage and RAM of course. haha.. i dont need da opal phone canvas or anything. jus the default will do for me.
a question here.. do u use opera mobile for internet surfing? i find it takes quite a lot of memory from it.
Thanks again bro! cant wait for the rom
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seriously thanks man!
hmm.. i'd really like to learn to mod a rom myself.. but im having problems with it.. well kinda gave up trying it..
im really not sure what i need and what i dont.. basically.. i'll jus need an empty rom.. i use Crc's device update. that shouldnt be any problem.. besides i'll be doing a full backup.. everything will be restored..
ur original LITE rom will be fine for me. and would be good if theres more storage and RAM of course. haha.. i dont need da opal phone canvas or anything. jus the default will do for me.
a question here.. do u use opera mobile for internet surfing? i find it takes quite a lot of memory from it.
Thanks again bro! cant wait for the rom
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I'll try to work on it in the next couple days.
I mostly use PIE for browsing, but I will use opera mini, when PIE doesn't suit, opera mini is a bit lighter than full blown opera.
But, I just normally read news, sports, and weather on my phone.
i see.
thanks for the info..
hmm. im still having a slight problem with the messaging using the rom.. the phone connection gets restarted on it own and the message isnt sent. but it isnt a big deal. i'll get used to it. but on ur rom the problem isnt that often anymore
trying out the full rom now.. i seriously love the battery thing there.. but does WkTask mess with it?
and the pocket digital clock is superb.
do u have a cab file for it?
and maybe a cab file for the taskbar icons and the battery thing?
with the backup on the full rom.. im having some problem with it.. mainly with the start menu thing.
the dialer seems fine to me.. its almost the same as the old dialers.. the colours etc but the interface is changed i suppose? it seems diff in faria's and schap's rom. but its all fine
well its basically all fine. i'd jus like to inclue the taskbar icons and the pocket digital clock in the lite rom.
then i'll have to install everything manually without the backup and the rom would last me for sometime. haha
haha! glad to see your liking the stuffs.
With quickmenu (it makes the battery where it is), you shouldn't need wktask (I have never tried installing both at the same time). You can set quickmenu to close apps with the "x" button, it will list your running programs from the start menu. And I have alt tab assigned to the short press of button 5 to switch between apps.
Pocket Digital Clock is installable from device update, but very easy to include.
It's sounding like your backup is making some conflicts, so I would avoid it. I would guess all the roms released lately are "uc compliant", meaning you can set up files on your sd card to install cabs and even set settings (but that can be a bit harder to learn). You can read all about it here: [App] ROM Flashing Junkies: User Customization is here!
I'll work on removing the things that it sounds like you don't need or want in the rom, and get it uploaded as soon as I can.
Also, what radio are you running? I find that 1.47.30.10 seems to be the best overall for me. the newer ones just have too many issues. Just be very careful when flashing the radio, and use the sd card method.
oh.. i find the start menu is great too.. do include it in your rom bro.
guess i wont need wktask rite. ah.. radio wont be a problem for me. im using 1.47.30.10 too.. but i guess the sms problem isnt related with it. its fine.. i'll just need the rom..
lol.. basically.. im seriously liking ur rom. its really my taste.. and the opal theme.. works great. i guess im pretty sure what i'll be wanting.. mostly will be your full rom without the opal dialer, voice commander, adobe reader too. other basic stuffs will be fine.
i think i'll do a fresh manual install-over to your rom. hmm.. do include camera inside. well.. arcsoft 5.0 and HTC connection wizard. but if ur busy it will be okay.. i'll be using the device update. ah yea. SPB alt tab is not needed. I'll be putting in SPB pocket plus. its included inside.
what u can focus on is optimizing the memory to the best it can..
thanks in advance!!
Hi All
FYI - A new upodate available at HTC for SEA non-branded TP2's.
ROM Version 2.07.707.1
Manila Version 2.5.20121225.6
http://www.htc.com/sea/supportdownloadlist.aspx?p_id=250&act=sd&cat=all
This one updates to a new version of Sense Ui and other stuff.
Impressions?
1. No Task Manager that can be utilised from the Home Screen (so how to change apps..?).
No Task Manager also means you can't readily see how much RAM is being hogged by the system.
2. No missed calls provision on Home Screen either..?
You do get the small icon on the top bar, a pop-up message AND the LED (green) actually flashes now - had to hack it before to do that.
3. Perhaps it's just mine, but to me the proximity sensor does not work now - it used too.
4. The shortcut Icons are stupidly large (3 per row).
5. The Programs Tab has been removed - this is a drag as the WinMo Programs area is still not dragable (just a go to the top option).
6. The Music Tab seems to now work better - at least it shows Album Art correctly now!
7. There's a Twitter Tab- not that i use it.
8. Calendar works differently.
9. Older Opera than current.
10. Older Google Maps than current.
11. It seems to be way louder than before too, both thru speaker and earpiece on a call - yay!!
12. The People Tab has changed to the new style - good.
13. FYI, SRS W0W (Sector HD2 version) still sends this version into no wakeup from Stand By mode - Damn!
13. New start animation (HTC-Simply Brilliant).
14. New background animations for Screen and Lock Screen.
15. Still can't believe that a Note file is not finger scrollable (WTF), yet Word is....
16. I have a sneaking suspicion that the battery life has taken a hit too, but unconfirmed at this point.
Lots of other changes to the UI, too numerous to make a big list.
In one way it is an improvement, although (to me) there have been a couple of backward steps, but overall, seems to be good.
One final thing, with this new UI - to me at least - it makes the scren look a little ...smaller.
Cheers
Jabberoo
wow, they give us sense 2.5? how generous...lol
but seriously, no task manager? how is the package overall? snappy or slower than 2.1? my old 6.5 upgrade is running sweetly at the moment, but this update is tempting
mr_sheen said:
wow, they give us sense 2.5? how generous...lol
but seriously, no task manager? how is the package overall? snappy or slower than 2.1? my old 6.5 upgrade is running sweetly at the moment, but this update is tempting
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Still unsure, early days.
I have some doubts that the battery life will be as good with this new update, but time will tell. It does seem a little less glitchy when using, the Home Screen seems a little overcrowded though with 2.5.
Still really don't get the no Task Manager thing, how the hell do you multi-task if you have to go through a menu series of hoops to reinstate the underlying programs that are still open.
With that, if they can't be triggered off with an X option (like on the previous versions' TM) they will all just bank up till your RAM says goodnight or you need to go into the bog standard old TM to turn them off.
Maybe I am missing something here, but this is a major oversight....
Also, as above, the no Programs Tab, means you need to use the WinMo Program list and with no real way to put things where you want them (just the Move to Top option) seems kinda dopey too.
Cheers
Jabberoo
jabberoo said:
Still unsure, early days.
I have some doubts that the battery life will be as good with this new update, but time will tell. It does seem a little less glitchy when using, the Home Screen seems a little overcrowded though with 2.5.
Still really don't get the no Task Manager thing, how the hell do you multi-task if you have to go through a menu series of hoops to reinstate the underlying programs that are still open.
With that, if they can't be triggered off with an X option (like on the previous versions' TM) they will all just bank up till your RAM says goodnight or you need to go into the bog standard old TM to turn them off.
Maybe I am missing something here, but this is a major oversight....
Also, as above, the no Programs Tab, means you need to use the WinMo Program list and with no real way to put things where you want them (just the Move to Top option) seems kinda dopey too.
Cheers
Jabberoo
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This is the interface that the HD2 got, am i right? do they new weather animation thats different than sense 2.1?
As for the no task manager, that is totally weird. You might want to write to HTC customer service about that and see what they come up with. I personally think its stupid to exclude the task manager though.
For the start menu, i usually us Joe Wilcox's awesome start thing because i cant stand the honeycomb layout. I thought it was just a mess, and one thing for sure, i never use the start menu. I just put the program tab straight up next to my home tab. So, again, i think its stupid that they got rid of the program tab as well.
How was the opera? you said that it was older right? well in the 6.1 official upgrade it was smooth when i scroll up and down on it, in yhe official 6.5 it just lags and not smooth, although the page renders perfectly. How's the opera scrolling in this package?
thank you for your response though
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Would be good to move this thread to ROM section so more members can see it
AWESOME!!!
Even if Opera is older, actually renders touch.facebook.com alot better than previous releases (ie when ya tap a picture it shows up)
Google Maps 4 loads probably 3 times quicker on this rom than the first official SEA WM6.5
You can tell it to update weather and location on a schedule!! Yay!
It supports turning the ringer down when ya pick up the device, and has a pocket mode that makes it ring louder
It integrates the HTC messaging so ya dont see the ugly MS SMS app anymore
With this ROM, I wouldn't hesitate to recommend a TP2 to my non tech savvy friends.
First impressions: I'm more excited than when I first got my TP2! Now to test Coreplayer and xVID AVIs (which where fine with 6.1 and not the 1st 6.5)
mr_sheen said:
This is the interface that the HD2 got, am i right? do they new weather animation thats different than sense 2.1?
As for the no task manager, that is totally weird. You might want to write to HTC customer service about that and see what they come up with. I personally think its stupid to exclude the task manager though.
For the start menu, i usually us Joe Wilcox's awesome start thing because i cant stand the honeycomb layout. I thought it was just a mess, and one thing for sure, i never use the start menu. I just put the program tab straight up next to my home tab. So, again, i think its stupid that they got rid of the program tab as well.
How was the opera? you said that it was older right? well in the 6.1 official upgrade it was smooth when i scroll up and down on it, in yhe official 6.5 it just lags and not smooth, although the page renders perfectly. How's the opera scrolling in this package?
thank you for your response though
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To the above, yes the Home Screen weather ani is there, but it was the first thing to go - seen it once and after that it just messed with resources.
The same with the annoying uber-flipping clock, maybe good on the HD2 but not so on the TP2 where it tended to be a little laggy and buggy in motion.
I added the X Touch Task Manager back in and now it is as it should have been from the start - much better.
For the Programs Tab, i grabbed Cookies Cab that did some neat stuff, see here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=625483. The only down side with this is, as i've just discovered, is that you wont have a landscape Home Screen with the keyboard out...?
I did not really use Opera, just updated it and Google Maps straight away to the latest versions.
Overall, i think it is smoother, a little less laggy and well worth a look.
Did i mention it was louder too?
(I used the Audio Para tweak, but now do not have too)
Cheers
Jabberoo
can anyone confirm that the
Manila Version 2.5.20121225.6
in previous SEA 2.07 thread, it says 2.5.20121225.0
is there any differences?
x_sliver said:
can anyone confirm that the
Manila Version 2.5.20121225.6
in previous SEA 2.07 thread, it says 2.5.20121225.0
is there any differences?
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I have the same question, too
Contacts & Messaging sucks
While I can agree with some of the improvements that they have made, both contacts and messaging has been screwed up, a big mess.
Often one of this makes the phone hang and should say that I have reset the phone on more occasions in the last 2 days than I have done it in the last 6 months.
Missing feature of Task Manager from the task bar and the Program Tabs are a big let down.
Damn I am now waiting to get the next release, if we will have one.
anybody knows how to cut the RAM usage down at the start? my old official Sense 2.1 managed to started up at 42 % RAM after the resproxy tweaks and no push internet tweak. It seems that in this ROM those tweeks seems to do nothing, After i did the tweak on this Sense 2.5 ROM, the it starts up at 47%.
Anything new then? Plus there seems to be new entry in the resproxy registry called maxsharememsize or something like that. Should we put that to 0?
Does anyone encountered the standby of dead issue in this rom? I have this problem when the first time i lock my phone and go to standby mode from the fresh boot up and it just wouldn't wakeup after i press the power on button. It seems the solution is to wait a little bit longer after you lock your phone then only switch the phone off. I have not seen this problem in previous official sea rom.
i am now seriously considering switching back to the official sense 2.1
why?
1. The resproxy and no push internet tweak doesnt work. My Ram shot >70% after a day where i use all the feature (twitter tab,album,music,lock screen etc)
2. The messaging app is just...bad. It lags and not responsive sonewhat. Plus after a soft reset it reads the sms that i have in inbox as coming from my sim card contact rather than phone contact. Glitchy.
3. It seems pretty quick after a hard reset, but after all the contacts is in and weather updated + software and such, the home screen and the whoke experience started to lag.
overall i think they should just keep the 2.5 to the HD2 i guess. Our TP2 just wont cut it...
Hi jabberoo, how do you get back the X Touch Task Manager back?
shortly after applying this ROM, my TP2 fell of the window sill and bounced off the bench into the sink
Its away getting insurance quotes, etc. Having to rely on my Dopod 838 Pro. Yuck...
overall, this new official ROM is far much better than sense 2.1 altho u have to be a lil'conservative on opening programs. One feature I still can get to work perfectly...the FB photo albums on contacts. Not a single pic that I've seen appear on the album,eventho they did show the respective album names and number of pics inside.
Does it Have Vietnamese roms?
Do you think HTC SEA have vietnamese language? how do you switch to another language in HTC WM 6.5.xx?
haoren said:
Hi jabberoo, how do you get back the X Touch Task Manager back?
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Hi
Not sure of the question here...
You grab the "Touch X Taskmanager.cab", install it, go to settings/system and configure it, voila....!
I found the "Touch_X_Homescreen_Flip_clock_OFF.cab" is good too, getting rid of the unneccessary flipping action which becomes irritating after a short time, the "Touch_X_Left_softkey_as_camera.cab" is worthwhile too, instead of doubling up for Phone or using a quick link space for it.
Hope that helps...
BTW, the Mods to expand the Quick Links (HD2 tweaks) are all useless at this point, handy but useless, as they break Landscape mode with the Keyboard in the out position.
I am still finding that a GPS lock using TomTom can take several minutes to execute on this ROM, so no improvement there. It does work well, just can sometimes take a while to lock (but eventually does...)
Cheers to all
Jabberoo
I had noticed that with the Facebook Albums, too. I'm going to lodge a thing with HTC once I have my phone again...
As for the GPS lock taking several minutes: I get that with a brand new TomTom Go 750 if I travel to a different location with it off, then turn it on. I used to think the TP2 was a POS in that regard, but when the TomTom did it I thought that maybe it wasn't specific to the TP2.
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Does anyone encountered the standby of dead issue in this rom? I have this problem when the first time i lock my phone and go to standby mode from the fresh boot up and it just wouldn't wakeup after i press the power on button. It seems the solution is to wait a little bit longer after you lock your phone then only switch the phone off. I have not seen this problem in previous official sea rom.
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Never had this issue with the ROM.
I tried to utilise SRS WOW (which is great) but this Standby issue was the end result on the TP2 (any ROM), which was a shame....
Cheers
Jabberoo
Hey everyone,
Just received my Desire today, think it is an awesome phone except I have one little niggle and I'm not sure if it's just me. When I'm in the 'All programs' view if I flick the list down towards the bottom there is noticeable lag. It's weird, it only happens when it reaches the bottom but it clearly stutters and jogs a bit as it gets to the end.
Weird thing is I havn't really noticed it anywhere else in the phone. Does anyone else with the phone have this issue? It's one of the first things I noticed when I opened it and all the reviews I've seen have not mentioned any lag at all so I don't think its right!
Thanks
I notice lag when I'm running at near to 0 mb Ram left, so it could be you have too many Apps open! :O - All other times its smooth.
A shutdown+turn on (restart) would be the bes tway to end all those applications that didnt actually close.
Or install something like Advanced App Killer and just kill off unwanted processes that way.
Thanks for the replies, I havn't tried restarting the phone but I do have the Advanced App Killer and it happens even when I've just killed everything. :\
It seems to happen much more when scrolling down, not up. What software version do you both have? Mine is 1.15.161.4, I'm wondering if it is a software issue because I havn't noticed it except on this programs screen.
Its only very slight, if you start from the top of the apps list, and scroll fast all the way down, the last row has a slight lag.
But really, the reason no reviews or anyone has not mentioned this is because its a none issue. You only see it if you go looking for it and its so slight the majority of people reading this thread will have no idea what you're talking about.
I've never noticed that, but now that I try it, I have the same thing. And I do kill my apps on a regular basis.
Must be some sort of minor bug. Doesn't bother me though.
http://geekfor.me/faq/you-shouldnt-be-using-a-task-killer-with-android
Could this be your answer..
skanj said:
http://geekfor.me/faq/you-shouldnt-be-using-a-task-killer-with-android
Could this be your answer..
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That article describes how Android should work, unfortunately it doesn't exactly work that way. There are plenty of apps that leak memory as well as devs using all sorts of undocumented API calls that make apps work in different way than intended.
It's not RAM am sure of it was the same on the hero when you got near the bottom it lagged , funny thing when you use launcher 2.1 like on Nexus one its as smooth as butter in the programs menu, I wish they had used it in Sense as it looks far better.
I wonder if any genius out there can get it working in sense and replace HTC's standard one.
I don't have the Desire, but on the Hero the scrolling slows down at the end, before it stops. What do you mean by lags? like hangs for a second or something? or snaps at the end before it stops?
A video can help.
It could be that HTC need to look into the code there.
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I don't have the Desire, but on the Hero the scrolling slows down at the end, before it stops. What do you mean by lags? like hangs for a second or something? or snaps at the end before it stops?
A video can help.
It could be that HTC need to look into the code there.
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What happens is that if I scroll down fairly quickly a few lines before the bottom there is a sort of shudder and slow down. It's a bit jittery, but it was something I noticed after I had only been using the phone a few minutes. Someone else I've shown it to notices it as well.
However Ive also just noticed that there is one single spec of dust under the screen right in the middle! Because of that I might just see if I can get a replacement. Would it be something to ask the carrier or HTC?
Its just not as smooth is the best way i can explain, it did exactly the same thing on the hero, as you start scrolling down all is fine then when you hit the bottom it could be called a tiny bit of slow down, like if you was gaming and the frame rate drops slightly so you lose the smoothness.
When i enable the 2.1 launcher its as smooth as anything and it is a far better looking apps system out of the two , i still say the same i would like to see this enabled in sense.
There was a vid on Youtube where people asked a guy doing Desire vids about this issue. His opinion was:
'it does not really lag. It is more like the system slows it down because it wants to'
Now on my HD2 when I scroll trough the start menu, it also stops on purpose(looks smooth though). On the Desire however I agree it looks more like lag then anything else..
Now that I think of it, I think I have seen this issue on every phone running Android.
Just try to ignore this issue I would say
I Dont have any such issue on mine.
XDA mark said:
There was a vid on Youtube where people asked a guy doing Desire vids about this issue. His opinion was:
'it does not really lag. It is more like the system slows it down because it wants to'
Now on my HD2 when I scroll trough the start menu, it also stops on purpose(looks smooth though). On the Desire however I agree it looks more like lag then anything else..
Now that I think of it, I think I have seen this issue on every phone running Android.
Just try to ignore this issue I would say
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I tend to use the 2.1 launcher as i prefer it to the sense look, its fine with that launcher its only when sense is enabled.
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I tend to use the 2.1 launcher as i prefer it to the sense look, its fine with that launcher its only when sense is enabled.
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Ok nice to know. Another reason to try Stock 2.1 once I get my Desire But with Stock 2.1 on the Desire, you get 7 home screens right? (normal 2.1 aka just turning of Sense, not flashing stock rom or something)
Has anybody found a sloution for this yet (apart from getting rid of sense that i quite like so i want to keep it)??
It's a damn shame 'cause it seems to be the only place where the phone slows down and as it's quite a common place to be it really bugs me!!!
I have similar lag.
Posting a vid that shows it.
Movie is only 30 fps, so its not that clear as it seems IRL.
youtube.com/watch?v=3UAO-eyhFmY
( copy/paste it, cant post links o.o )
dastalker said:
I have similar lag.
Posting a vid that shows it.
Movie is only 30 fps, so its not that clear as it seems IRL.
youtube.com/watch?v=3UAO-eyhFmY
( copy/paste it, cant post links o.o )
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Quite hard to discern from the video as you mention but seems the same issue I originally posted about. On mine though it only really happens when you do a rapid scroll over a long distance, i.e. just holding my finger there and scrolling up and down as you did in the video seems fine to me. If i scroll quickly though and let it go just before the bottom it does a little jump and then keeps going again.
After using the device for a couple of weeks now, I agree with what someone else posted that its not lag but a bug. I think there is a problem with the algorithm that controls the slow down at the end, because for me it is a very noticeable jump that happens and seems to be artificial, not because the device can't handle the scroll.
yup same here,
i noticed a small lag when scrolling down in the program menu, the funny thing is... it didn't have that when i first got it.
Its when i started to put some progs on it, that it began to lag (or whatever you want to call it)
Greetings All,
Well after 1 1/2 days of searching with no help or guidenance from anyone, (Sorry but alittle annoyed that no one likes to help, but I'll get over it) I managed to wrap up a hotfix for our SMS problem with lagging and not beng able to txt. I am currently testing this to see how it is working, and so far, on an install level it went without a hitch.
This is not a fix for a noob, I STRONGLY suggest noobs do not attempt this hotfix, I am not responsible for bricking, crashing, loss of data, or frying of your phone! I assume no responsiblitly and if you attempt this you are doing so with knowing the risks that come with this!
Now since that is out of the way:
This hotfix is actually the last hotfix for the HD2 that was dated 1/24/2010. As far as I know the last fix corrected the issue of being able to txt while the thread loaded in the background, and since Seppi the good soul came up with migrating the fix to tp2 but was a much older version (1.5.2011.2130) I decided I wasnt waiting for HTC and decided to take their HD2 hotfix and do the same thing Seppi did and here it is.
HotFix Compatability:
All 2.07.40x Manila 2.5 Roms. NOT COMPATABILE WITH ANY PRIOR OR FUTURE ROMS. All Languages Supported.
You Have to turn off Manila by going to Settings/All Settings/Today/Items and pick windows default. Also make SURE HTC messaging is not running or the hotfix will not install.
It will ask you to install either on the Device or SDCard. MUST BE INSTALLED ON DEVICE.
Fixes: (2)
1) Fixes the SMS lag we all have been dealing with and not being able to type as the whole thread loads. Now SMS's load in background.
2) So Far fixes the loss of contact picture, this is due to a resetting of the phone and associates SMS's to sim card and loses association with phone contact.
Known Bugs: (3)
1) Same as in the HD2 at times the screen when rotating from landscape to portrait might mix up the last line where the last line and the one above it merge, going back to landscape corrects this. Does not happen from portrait to landscape.
2) All prior SMS's might not associate with the corresponding phone contacts.
3) This MAY reset your MMS settings and will need to re-enter MMS info. based on your service provider. You can reach this by tabing to Msgs/All msgs/Menu/Settings/Options/Menu/MMS Server. Select SampleMMSC to change your settings Manually.
Or going to Settings/All Settings/Connections/Connections Setup and going through the wizard again.
Notes:
I have attached two files, One is a direct install with no way to uninstall it, this is how I have it setup and is working. The other file has an uninstall feature incase of anything can be removed. I have not tested the one with the uninstall feature to see if it would work that way, but Your free to test it out.
To know if the hotfix has been applied, to go Msgs/All Msgs/Menu/About if successful, your app build should be 1.5 (Build 2011.3631) The original version on the TP2 was Build 2011.3831.
Any comments good or bad Feel Free.
75 Views and no one has anything to say? Gee wonder about that one.
And no one willing to try it huh? Well I can tell you this much it has made a difference so far, and it seems it might have fixed two POSSIBLE problems as well:
1) I have no SOD as of yet since doing this, even with weather animation.
2) No screen going black while typing or right after hitting send.
What can I say... If it ain't broke, don't fix it...
Others who have this problem might chance it but since I don't I'm not gonna stuff up a stable phone just to see if it breaks it....
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What can I say... If it ain't broke, don't fix it...
Others who have this problem might chance it but since I don't I'm not gonna stuff up a stable phone just to see if it breaks it....
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Oh it's broke alright. I haven't looked in these forums in a while. I gave up waiting for somebody to get a fix for this but I was curious and decided to take a peek in here to see what people are up to. The reason "it ain't broke" for some people is because they either don't have much sms volume or they clean out their inbox on a regular basis. For those of us who have a large volume of sms and don't have the time to clean out our inbox, it's definitely broke.
Anyway, you don't know how happy I am to see this fix! Thanks so much. I'm going to try it and I'll report back.
One question though...You say it's for manila 2.5...I'm not real fluent with the whole manila speak so I'm not sure if this will work on my phone. I've got a att tilt2 with the stock 6.5 rom running spb mobile shell. Will this update work on my phone?
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75 Views and no one has anything to say? Gee wonder about that one.
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Explanation: People like me see the title and wonder: "What's this?". So I click on it and see it's a solution for a problem that I don't have and haven't even heard of...so I have no comment on it. There's no big mystery about it nor any reason to take it personally.
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Oh it's broke alright. I haven't looked in these forums in a while. I gave up waiting for somebody to get a fix for this but I was curious and decided to take a peek in here to see what people are up to. The reason "it ain't broke" for some people is because they either don't have much sms volume or they clean out their inbox on a regular basis. For those of us who have a large volume of sms and don't have the time to clean out our inbox, it's definitely broke.
Anyway, you don't know how happy I am to see this fix! Thanks so much. I'm going to try it and I'll report back.
One question though...You say it's for manila 2.5...I'm not real fluent with the whole manila speak so I'm not sure if this will work on my phone. I've got a att tilt2 with the stock 6.5 rom running spb mobile shell. Will this update work on my phone?
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The Stock 6.5 that came with your phone is WinMo 6.5 Manila 2.1, it will not work with this version I do not suggest it at all. This version is for anyone who HardSPL-ed their phone and are using any of the generic HTC Roms without any Service Provider Bloatware. I would Add Customized Roms to the list but I think most Customized roms removed the 2.5 msging app from their cooked roms.
MCbrian
The people who dont have this problem either are using stock Roms from providers that have the 2.1 version of the app which didnt have this issue, or are people with the New Roms that are not heavy sms users, Or are using cooked roms without the 2.5 manila app in the rom and have reverted back to the WM msging app.
BTW FYI HTC didnt make the new msging system, its a 3rd party app, originally made by Jataaya, but was bought out by a company in india called ComViva which actually makes the app I believe.
Hi
Just installed the fix: looks like now SMS application has much better options, it just works better. I restored 500 messages, as for now it works smoothly. No hung after sending message. I'll test it for few more days, but even now I can say it fixes the buggy app!
And quick question: bulid version of the fix suggest it is 'previous' version (3631 instead of 3831). How is it?
and regarding SOD: had it 3 times already since instaling hotfix, but it is not rather related to hotfix. Just want to tell that hotfix doesn't fix SOD...
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Hi
Just installed the fix: looks like now SMS application has much better options, it just works better. I restored 500 messages, as for now it works smoothly. No hung after sending message. I'll test it for few more days, but even now I can say it fixes the buggy app!
And quick question: bulid version of the fix suggest it is 'previous' version (3631 instead of 3831). How is it?
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Glad to hear it fixed your problem. Question, did you use the uninstallable cab or the direct cab?
The reason for the version difference again is that HD2 software versioning is different then TP2, HD2 jumped from 2031, where The stock TP2 6.5 Manila 2.5 had the 3831 Being that its from HD its the same app but different build #'s.
And thanx for the feedback and about the SOD being the only one who was using it and not having the issue anymore I thought maybe it had something to do with the fix, but thats why I said POSSIBILITY cause being the sole user I had nothing else to go on.
Glad I made a difference. Thanx.
I used version with uninstall option. After another day of testing I confirm it fixes the most annoying behaviour of HTC SMS app. Sad that many people complain about the bug, not many want to try the fix- just look at the threads...
Regarding SOD: I contacted HTC service, they advised to upgrade the firmware (that's why I had to test the hotfix), now they say I have to 'repair' the device. I'll try. My company uses more than 40 TP2s, I am the only one who enocounters SOD. Maybe it is really broken...
Once again - thanks for the fix!
OK, I've installed the un-installable version, so far it seems to work well - the HTC messaging has never run so quick.
I'll keep an eye on it over the coming days.
much more smooth now! thanks!
Agreed, I also installed the removable version and it seems to work all ok, certainly much better than before!. This maybe a coincidence but when I flick through my picture album now (full screen images), sometimes it takes 2 or 3 'flicks' to get to the next image, don't remember it being like this before. It could be that the images are about 4mb a file, hhmm, will have a look at this.
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Agreed, I also installed the removable version and it seems to work all ok, certainly much better than before!. This maybe a coincidence but when I flick through my picture album now (full screen images), sometimes it takes 2 or 3 'flicks' to get to the next image, don't remember it being like this before. It could be that the images are about 4mb a file, hhmm, will have a look at this.
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The SMS Hot fix does not change any files that have to do with HTC Album, so it either is coincidence, or you were not aware of it before. But I assure you the two are completely unrelated.
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The SMS Hot fix does not change any files that have to do with HTC Album, so it either is coincidence, or you were not aware of it before. But I assure you the two are completely unrelated.
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That's what I thought, have just resized them, now only 1.49mb a file Definately better so must just have been a coincidence, will resize again properly when I'm back home to see if it's any better. flippin annoying! lol.
I have tilt 2 energy rom, will this work for my phone? the sms lag is bugging the crap out of me.. Thanks in advance!
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I just installed it on two us t-mobile hd2's. One is the orignal rom and the other is the updated rom. Both are responding much better to sms. The new rom is working almost perfect 99% better than it was. The orignal rom has 85% ish increase in speed so I would say that this cab is very much worth the install.
Thanks for you work.
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I figured I better give some more info.
I lost no sms info on either device.
I have had no issues in any of the other functions on either phones.
So again thanks for the work.
Hey Guys, just saw this on HTC's Official Site...our official ROM update with the sense ui is OUT!!!!
http://www.htc.com/us/support/tilt-2-att/downloads/
Sorry if this is a repost, Not sure if anyone else has tried it yet...haven't seen a post on it yet .
Added Some Screen Shot!!!
(The Task Manager and 4 tabs on the Home screen were things I added afterward)
Anyone try it Yet? About to install!!! woohoo!
Grr...first attempt failed...the moment I hit ok...it sent info to my my phone...and instantly the computer didn't recognize the device...and stopped the whole install...about to try again.
Ok! Did a hard reset...installing fine now. 7% will let you know what happens...once I get BsB Tweaks reinstalled I'll try some screen shots. ;D
At 7% there was some sortof an installation error...had me unplug the USB, take out the battery, put it back in, replug in the USB, and started the install over. At 7% it stopped again for a second, then kept going. Just finished the install, booting up the phone with the new ROM ...give me a few minutes to finish. ;D
Awesome! Up and running! waether clock yaay! Finally!
There's a cool little tutorial at the begining, shows you new keyboard autocorrect feature, which is really cool! Sets up e-mailetc... but can be skipped. ;D
Task Manager is gone....grrr
old windows mobile look when changing battery settings is gone!!!! HTC interface look!!! woohoo!
Program tab...from touchflo3D is gone...but not needed as much with the tabs on the homescreen. ;D
E-Mail appears flat infront of you ;D without the little envelope/slightly angled e-mail.
not finding the keyboard backlight options...since the power settings have changed...the option to adjust this has disappeared....backlight on the key board isn't turning on...maybe cause the light sensor is working....but I use to turn this off...so my keyboard would light up anytime I used it...
...anyone find where we can change this option?
Came with 15 contacts in ppl tab, no need to install the cab...although only 3 links on the home screen...will be installing the 4 link cab
Calendar is great in sense...have the options for agenda/week/year views now...awesome! Plus appoint reminder times are shown when clicking on individual appointments haha this was never visvble before in wm ;P
Can't believe they haven't fixed the snooze options...what a joke, still have to add an app to have snooze option choices. Ridiculous!
Grrr...board games was removed from this rom...I finally had a decent game of chess on my phone...and of all the bloatware...they remove the one I want. Grrr
Dude, there must be a half dozen threads on this already with the same info as this conversation you appear to be having with yourself.
ok honestly this thread is just pointless, like miami said, theres already dozens of threads just on this new ROM alone, a guy made a thread like this yesterday and i told him that he needs to search before posting a new thread, next time do so, ill have to file a thread deletion, this is just getting out of hand now
i make the update without problems, but now:
1)no task manager
2)less available storage space when boot (before 114mb, now 68mb), the same programs installed, nothing installed in the phone, always in the card
so far for the moment
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Grrr...board games was removed from this rom...I finally had a decent game of chess on my phone...and of all the bloatware...they remove the one I want. Grrr
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The chess game on there is okay, but I actually had to put it on hard in order for it to even be a challenge of some sort. I think it beats me maybe once every 10 games or so. I'm not even that great of a player.
So what's missing in the new ROM so far sounds like task manager and board games. The alarm snooze isn't working either. Is it worth the ROM upgrade?
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The chess game on there is okay, but I actually had to put it on hard in order for it to even be a challenge of some sort. I think it beats me maybe once every 10 games or so. I'm not even that great of a player.
So what's missing in the new ROM so far sounds like task manager and board games. The alarm snooze isn't working either. Is it worth the ROM upgrade?
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For task manager just add Duttys Task Manager...if you want the same as the original, I like it.
BsB Tweaks lets you put in snooze options, which never existed in either Rom, but also let you add screen rotations to any program you want, plus other stuff.
Need Net...for BsB to work.
I think sense blows away touchflo, I love it.