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Hi
My PDA2K is falling apart (I have dropped it a couple of times which has not helped.
I need to replace it and I am wondering with what.
I could simply go for another PDA2K but really never want to buy from i-mate ever again so am looking at [email protected]'s XDAIIs and IIi or the T-Mobile MDAIII.
Which is the best or would you steer totally clear of this phone because of all its problems?
Robin
I've got an O2 XDA2s & a work colleague has the T-Mobile MDAIII. Persoanlly I'd use either agin depsite their known issues. I like having an all-in-one device & am happy to compromise to get it
I would definitely buy another XDA IIs, if mine died. The grey colour of the O2 device simply oozes more class than the silver handsets.
Quality has been good (except for the hard reset issue when removing the battery - which is easily solved by keeping the power cord in when changing the sim card). I would be tempted to hang on for the universal though....... NICE!
i simply cannot afford to buy a brand new one if mine died, id have to wait til i can upgrade again, but if i could, then i would buy another as i have already got my bro to get one of these, and also he is a driving instructor, so its useful for his appointments and stuff.
if i was close to my upgrade date tho, i would just wait and get the next xda
joey.
Personally, no. I've realised I don't need the organisation or programs of a PDA. I bought it for Skype, but that doesn't work. The build quailty is not amazing.
I'll be going back to standard Sony Ericssons next contract period.
Chris
I'm very disappointed with all PDA's.
As a long time user AND enthusiast, I'm completely dissatisfied with everyone available. Moving to the BA from a HP, I expected better innovation from the leading producer of WM based PDA's, especially after seeing what HP was producing with the 6500's. Now I just realized that HTC is producing the 6500 for HP...!?!
Why wont someone produce a quality device with a hires (vga) screen, good memory (128 RAM, not to mention the availability of multi GB micro drives), reliable phone (GSM), fast data (GPRS/EDGE), un-crippled Bluetooth (audio/voice), and a small form factor (Treo). It has to be possible. I paid $850 for the BA (unlocked), and it's ridiculously unstable, and can't do what my $50 cell phone can do.
Bitter, Bitter, Bitter...
I hear you man. Sometimes I wonder if I should have got a different Pocket PC so Skype would actually work.
All of them are crippled/broken/manufactured badly in some way. The BA has its fair share of problems, but the important thing is that they're no more than any other PDA (apart from maybe the keyboard).
Chris
Some guy at work has te iPaq hybrid pda/phone. Quite swanky. I recently have this descision on my plate. Keep my new XDA2s or swap for the slower, but better made and more stable SE P910.
I'm waiting for Nokia N91.
I will surely buy another Blue Angel. Wish they could makde the keyboard more stronger and add WM 2005 in it .
I am pretty happy with the stuff .
NO!
his hardware its really crap...
Robster said:
Hi
My PDA2K is falling apart (I have dropped it a couple of times which has not helped.
I need to replace it and I am wondering with what.
I could simply go for another PDA2K but really never want to buy from i-mate ever again so am looking at [email protected]'s XDAIIs and IIi or the T-Mobile MDAIII.
Which is the best or would you steer totally clear of this phone because of all its problems?
Robin
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Is your phone covered by your house insurance.....was it you that dropped it? I would be suspicious and claim for a new one if you get my drift!
I would definetaly buy another one! It has had it's issues, but they all do to one extent or another. I use mine for my work all the time, and it has been the best unit that I have owned to date.
Later.......
i will never buy xda lls.
i hope i can change my xda lls to xda lli now.
but i have no money
Absolutely NOT. Sick of the instability, the poor support, the resetting 3 times a day and everything else that goes with it.
Never again!
I like the idea of an all in-one-device but...
1) phone is unstable
2) bluetooth is unstable
3) pda is unstable requiring resets
4) no UMTS
5) no "good" camera (0.3 MP ? come on! 5MP cam phones are out already)
6) no EDGE support
7) low memory
8) don't use keyboard as often as I thought
it is an OK device, but could use a lot of improvement.
I live the universal and I would give it a try if it were quadband
Until 3 days ago I would have said no. My 02 XDA2s was horribly unstable in all the ways described above.
I then had to try and find a replacement all-in-one. All I found that does everything this does that I need is the XDA2i (which from reading the forum sounds just as bad) and the Nokia N91 (out this Christmas at the earliest - I needed a handset NOW!)
I will take the keyboard of the XDA2s over the camera of the 2i anyday (all XDA cameras are limited by the crappy lenses anyway, no matter hoe good resolution they make them). The keyboard's really useful when doing things like entering passwords with greater accuracy or chatting on MSN.
I then flashed my ROM and radio to the latest availible and I have not had to reset yet in over 24 hours!
I was resetting my other XDA2s with 02 ROM 5 times a day!
Flash your ROM!! It makes this thing work to an acceptable level! Media Player 10 is great too, although the buttons are disabled which makes toggling the screen difficult. Album art and media centre synching make it worth it
Nope, I would not buy another BA. Next time I want to upgrade to get the HTC Wizard. Smaller phone with built in wi-fi and WM5.
With the BA:
I have never used the slide out keyboard
I am fed up with wi-fi choosing whether or not it wants to turn on
I am fed up getting the driver low memory message on BT
I am fed up with the phone locking up up so I can't call out and others can't call me without doing a soft reset or turn on/off BT every time.
Some of you are missing the point here! Let's compare to units that are already available, not things that have not arrived yet! With the right rom combination,this is an acceptable unit! Edge is new and very limited right now,and was not available when these came out.Stability issues can be resolved by cooking your own rom! Using reasons like that,as well as "I don't use this,or that feature", is not really the point,is it!
Just my 6 cents worth..... Later....... 8)
ill still buy ba or the upcoming one
this is the best i've ever had...i started from xda1 then xda2 now xda2s...that's why i love this site...and thanks t'all the people Here...lm working at night, n use my wifi w/o problems...use my verichat for chatting or agile, surf net...play my old school super nintendo (thousand selection)...use resco to ftp my website n upload/dowload mp3's ,files etc....listen my new remix mp3's w 2gigs while im in the gym ...ayt....
With the current selection of phones/pdas in the market today, I would still buy the same IIs I have....thats considering I can still aford one
Hi all, looking for some respected opinions.
I currently have an MDA (owned less than a month). I jsut saw the Dash is coming out the 16th, and was wondering hwo the two compare?
I love the calendar and wifi functions of the MDA, though the Dash has that too. The smaller form factor and available QWERTY keyboard (without sliding) seems appealing (plus it's more pocketable). How do they compare in processor speed, power consumption, etc?
Thinking of trading my MDA in for the DASH.
BTW, anybody have any side by side shots of the two?
Lastly, any major disadvantages to using Windows Mobile Smartphone Edition other than editing DOC's? I really don't edit DOC's or XL's that much, so not too concerned about that. As long as there is the ability to take notes, etc. I can always transcribe later.
Thanks!!
They have the same proc specs. Although the OMAP on MS smartphone OS will be much zippier than on full Pocket Pc OS. If you dont mind not having the touch screen and the ability to create and edit dos, I say go for it. I have been using the demo at my store and love it. The only thing is the keys are very cramped in comparison to the MDA. Every now and then I hit the wrong key or two keys at once. Hope that helps narrow it down for you.
Thanks Mike
I don't suppose you could snap a couple of side by side pics of the two units together? If not, could you give me an idea of the size & weight? I think the main thing for me is that I want something a bit more "pocketable" than the MDA.
Thanks!!
I have owned both.. and I HATED the MDA after 2 months of use. It was slow, had a poor battery, terrible tendencies to freeze up, and was a pain to use one handed. Although its not the biggest smartphone around, its a brick compared to the Dash. The Dash has been rock-solid as far as reliability, speed, battery, faster wifi beacon, etc. My ONLY complaints are that it has no flash, and that the screen isn't as reflective as the BB Pearl, so its tough to see in sunlight.. just liek the MDA. Save the $100 and go with the Dash. I have yet to come across any feasible tasks that the Dash CANT do which the MDA can.
Wolvereen said:
Thanks Mike
I don't suppose you could snap a couple of side by side pics of the two units together? If not, could you give me an idea of the size & weight? I think the main thing for me is that I want something a bit more "pocketable" than the MDA.
Thanks!!
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Sure I can snap some tomorrow at work for you.
Here are some pics that compare the MDA to the DASH. I took these using the dash, so you can kinda see the photo quality as well. Here is the link:
http://new.photos.yahoo.com/michaelflorio82/album/576460762319737097#page1
is the dash a pda also like the mda?
Also, how much is the price of the MDA III OR IV?
is the Qtek 9000........ the tmobile mda iv? is this useful in the usa?
Thanks
mikef1182 said:
They have the same proc specs. Although the OMAP on MS smartphone OS will be much zippier than on full Pocket Pc OS. If you dont mind not having the touch screen and the ability to create and edit dos, I say go for it. I have been using the demo at my store and love it. The only thing is the keys are very cramped in comparison to the MDA. Every now and then I hit the wrong key or two keys at once. Hope that helps narrow it down for you.
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so the dash can not be used as a pda( open exel .......etc) correct? download programs ...........and others! Also, why is so hard to get the MDA III OR IV THRU T MOBILE?
Thanks
If those are pics taken from the dash...that is not bad at all.
Anyone know if you are able to hold down a key for a sec and it will type in the alternative?
Just got my Dash today. I also have an MDA. I have to say it is pretty slick and much quicker than the MDA. The only things that I miss a little, but can deal with it for the size factor, is the touch screen and the ability to edit office docs, which I really didn't do that often. Does anyone know how to turn off GPRS without having to go into com manager? On the MDA just holding the END key did it. On the Dash, this locks the keyboard...Otherwise it is fabulous!
Just picked up my Dash. The form factor is excellent and it is very easy to use. I used an MDA for about 9 months while and just switched to a Nokia E70 a month ago. I'd have to say I am glad to be back to WM5. Symbian is promising but much too buggy, at least on the E70. Also, the email functionality is much better on the MDA/Dash. As for the MDA's touchscreen, I don't really miss it since it's easy enough to navigate around once you get the hang of it.
I don't really know what programs and customizations are out there for this thing yet, but I'd like to find a weather plug-in and will try Google Mobile Maps in a bit. I've already found that Home Screens from the Moto Q work well on the Dash. This website was extremely helpful when I was setting up my MDA so I'm hoping the Excalibur community picks up and we get some more apps and customizations in the near future. Cheers...
mikef1182 said:
Here are some pics that compare the MDA to the DASH. I took these using the dash, so you can kinda see the photo quality as well. Here is the link:
http://new.photos.yahoo.com/michaelflorio82/album/576460762319737097#page1
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Thanks for the pics! Yeah, never liked the MDA's thickness (aka brick-like thickness) and that slide out keyboard that you can't operate with one hand and have to wait until the slow processor catches up to switching the screen to landscape. No dice, MDA. It's all about the Dash.
Im very happy with my current iPaq 6945 but if I I had to pick a Smartphone, it would be the Dash.
yes the Dash will I dont think the s620 will tho.. oh and I also own both the Dash and the MDA. I personally like the Dash better if not for anything else but for its compact size. After carrying the MDA on my side for almost the last year it can feel pretty bulky. but after getting the Dash I hardly notice it on my hip. Also you can view word, excel, ect.. documents but you cant edit them like you can on the MDA. For me that isnt a big deal. I usually only view them anyways, it can be a pain to edit a document you cant entirely see. Oh well that is my 2 cents worth..
FallN said:
Thanks for the pics! Yeah, never liked the MDA's thickness (aka brick-like thickness) and that slide out keyboard that you can't operate with one hand and have to wait until the slow processor catches up to switching the screen to landscape. No dice, MDA. It's all about the Dash.
Im very happy with my current iPaq 6945 but if I I had to pick a Smartphone, it would be the Dash.
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Yeah, what's the deal with the whole software thing. Doesn't the fact that it is WM5 mean that even though there is no software for it, you can still install softare designed not for the smartphone specifically? My understanding is that even though it's a smartphone, any WM5 and most Pocket PC based software will work on it. Is this correct?
Hi Folks,
Just wanted to check what this thing looked like as I cannot get to see one, especially the keyboard. All the marketing pictures on VF's site seem to be the original HTC ones.
Also interested to hear how folks have got on with any unbranding efforts now that we are quite a few weeks into availability. I think there are some beta CABS around...
Thanks,
Sam
Look on the vodafone business site at the picture of the Diamond. The TF looks the same as that. Horrible!
It is simple to remove using one cab file that will put the phone to a plain black. You can then use any other theme you like, or part of a theme
Stunno,
Thanks for this. Yes, had a look.... hmm. But as you say it takes just one cab file.
Has the keyboard been "painted" red in anyway or lit up in red or is it the original? Hopefully the external branding is just the front and back logo.
Otherwise are you happy with VF? About to take the plunge from another operator.
Thanks,
Sam
Double post due to system hanging....
Sam, no the keyboard appears to be standard, grey keys with black lettering until it lights up and the lettering glows white and green for the FN button. The only visible VF stuff is indeed on the front and back but is very discreet
Vodafone has been very good. I have been with Tmobile for about 6 years and the signal strength/reception is much better with VF, apart from the odd blank spot, Tmobile reception in rural areas was shocking. Having said that I haven't seen an 'H' yet with VF.
I've uploaded the VF manual for you if you want to take a look its about 14MB. It has several depictions of the branding, but as i say it only takes one cab installation of about 10 minutes to clear it
http://rapidshare.com/files/250000341/HTC_Touch_Pro2_Vodafone_UK_English_User_Manual_v1.pdf
Stunno,
You are a star...... Thanks...
Sam
Stunno,
Just scanned the manual... Very useful insight... and reassuring to be honest althought the theme is a little "blood red".
One final thing.... Have VF removed any apps off the original ie YouTube App etc... No doubt any VOIP functionality might have been nobbled as well ???
Another point that you might have thought about is the upgrade policy of VF for things such as firmware and WM6.5. Apparently they are slow. Do you have thoughts on this?
Just trying to decide between 18 and 24 months contracts now !!!
Sam
That's a good question!
I have no Youtube app on mine, but, then again, I had Facebook integration until I changed themes and now I haven't.
I have read elsewhere that the youtube app had been removed, which is no bad thing as the 'allowance' is only 500MB.
There is also no sign of VOIP although I don't know if it is nobbled or not as I don't use that either. I rarely make international calls and my unlimited landline calls makes up for it
Stunno,
Yes the unlimited calls is very attractive to me as well. I guess it will be a good "hand free" tool as when when talking through stuff on the PC or whatever. I tended to us this a bit with my standard business landline which is now costing me too much, so turning my TP2 over for "hands free" mode may be quite an improvement.
Thanks again,
Sam
Double post...
The VF upgrade policy for software doesn't really concern me. I doubt that I would download it anyway as I always tend to use this site for anything like that.
In a few weeks hardSPL will be available, hopefully, and once the chefs get working on here there will be far superior ROMs available than anything VF can put together
I initially went for the 18 month contract, but the 3 months free and a fiver off my bill swung me to the 24 month one
Stunno,
Thanks for your thoughts... Interesting to hear how other think...
Obviously you are quite a hardcore smartphoner!! How do you deal with upgrading within contract? Do you just wait until the 21st month on the 24 when VF allows an upgrade or do you sell you the current phone and get an unlocked "newer" phone to use on the current contract?
Thanks,
Sam
Keep getting these hangs and thus double posts !!
A long time user yes, but I don't know about hardcore! I just read a lot and take grateful advantage of the excellent stuff that gets shared on here!
I tend to stick with the contract until upgrade time then look around for the phone that I want on the best deal. Apart from when I broke my Wizard, which at the time would have cost more to fix than to buy another phone! I got a great deal from Orange on a 12 month contract with a free Prophet which worked out cheaper than buying the phone!
Thanks. Appreciate the comment.
Sam
Hey all,
Long time lurker, first time poster...
Up until recently I've spent my phone hacking and info gathering time mostly on Howard forums as they have a little more info on my current implement of mass distraction which is not an HTC.
I am currently waiting to receive my shiny new HTC Tilt II though. It should be here by Thursday per the FedEx tracking on it.
Anyways,
I know there a lot of these out there already and I see a lot of info here, but nothing specific to what I'm looking for.
Basically, I would like to know what you all are doing with your Tilt II's.
What apps are necessities.
What will I need to fix out of the box?
I plan to eventually throw a cooked ROM on as I am currently using a 6.5.1 ROM on my Samsung Epix. No Touch Flo or Manilla though. I was running TF2 and Manilla 2.0 on a stock att 6.1 ROM for a while, but now that I have the Rhodium on the way, I took the plunge and flashed it.
So back to the Tilt II...I plan to eventually flash it, but will keep the stock ROM at least for the first few weeks to get acquainted.
So knowing that, what will I want to remove and could you possibly point me to buried posts telling how?
I've seen posts saying this phone is already app unlocked natively and then I've seen other posts stating the opposite. Will I need to app unlock the Tilt II and if so, is there a cab and where can I get it?
I saw a list of apps for the Rhodium and dug that post. Anyone have any opinions on what has worked best on the this phone?
I think those are all my questions for now...having not even played with the phone yet except for in an att store for all of about 10 minutes. I'm sure I'll have more once its in my hands.
Thanks all in advance for any answers.
I just recently returned the Pure and switched to a Tilt2
Compared to the Pure, the Tilt2 feels so much bigger and heavier, and has a better build quality in my opinion (the Pure feels like cheap plastic...:/)
Back to the topic...I flashed a custom rom within the first 3 minutes receiving the phone...but from the experience from the Pure, nothing is worth keeping on the AT&T stock rom unless you really need their apps.
If you do plan to flash to a custom rom, make sure to find the tilt2 keyboard fix (should be pretty easy to find). Some cooked roms are cooked for the Tilt2 though, for example the Fusion by Atom
Other than that it really depends on what you need
Yeah...I was torn between the two until I walked into the store and looked at them. As soon as I saw the Tilt II, I had no desire for the Pure. How can you deny all that screen real estate??? I mean, its basically a UMD with a phone built in! I think the only thing that could have made this a better phone would have been a 1gig snapdragon processor.
Thanks for pointing me to Atom for a Tilt II specific ROM. Any one recommend any other Tilt II specific ROMS?
A somewhat diffrent post =) but i need to say it. Just a basic huge thnx to the dedicated BA developers and programers. You seem to be in control here, and maybe its a good thing to have a phone that not to many uses nowadays (Less crowded) Thnx D-Two and Chef Tony for your never ending dedication. Made my starting point as a new user on BA forum very easy. Tonys guide how to flash this phone is just great and to the letter. Only wish you could elaborate more on radio flashing since i cant for some reason upgrade just as easy as the rom (wont accept the radio on second screen its no info at all) .. i have 1.12 and thought 1.15 could help issues i had on 6.1. Luckly i have no issues on 6.5 so far with dropped GPRS connection (weeeee).
Picked up my my old Qtek 9090 and flashed with 6.1 and then to the current 6.5 and though scary, it worked (Phew). Many years since i used a old WM device and having a Leo today, this is scary compared in flashing proceedings.
I installed some basic need apps according to me, and Opera 10 is really best on a BA in comparison to the HD2 and other new phones i used/tryed. The possibility to use buttons and arrow keys really makes for smooth surfing and next to non movment of fingures (and mouse arrow!!!). I just saw, what a breeze, a true one-man-hand surfin experience...now if i only had 3G =)
I loved my BA when it came out, and only reason i droped it for a new device was that it broke down. So why not get a new one then? Well here in Sweden phones came and went fast and when i was hoping for a replacment, it turned out they stopped importing it since they claimed it to be a device with a lot of problems ... so i had to upgrade =( (Cant say i hated my HTC Universial thou)
But 1 year ago, i helped a friend moving and guess what fell out of a box, a Qtek 9090 model of BA and since he didnt use it he gave it to me. With 6.5 now onboard my love continues. If it only had the 3 swedish letters on the hardware keyboard ... or the possibility to hold down a, and o to get alternetive letters it would be turnd in to my nr1 daylie driver.
I am thinking of scraping up some money to buy a mint condition one even. I see them on our eqviliant to e-bay here now and hen and its itchy. So thnx BA community for restoring my love for this device.
If people never scratches the surface of there WM devices they can surely miss a lot. Thnx to the dedicated work of the likes like my fav rom chef D-Two and master mind Chef Tony i now enjoy a Blue Angel that feels great and is up to date. Though i belive the HTC HD2 to be the best phone ever made, i must say, all modernazation is not of good. BA suprised me a lot in usability, and there is only 3 factors to really make it a dated phone today, despite a great dev community.
1. Screen: Man its lovly to look at with modern software but it wont help the fact that brightness and resolution and the good old angle problems is there. Its barly usble in daylight.
2. 3G radio. Being a media monster as it is, it still suffers in my point the fast internet usabillity. While still very usable as it is, if in a thight spot it takes to long to make things happen.
3. Storage space, 4GB is little for a media consumer like me. 8GB would have made it ok atleast, but 4GB just dont cut it anymore for me on a device like this.
So, there i said it. But it still dont stop me from loving this phone, and as it is, its my second daylie driver since i use 2 phones a lot. And all the Iphone users etc, they just cant get there head around what this is (there too young to remember prolly).... shall they fear it, laught at it ... they dont get it, and that is a fun disraction in everyday life. Only wish i have left was a way to boost the CPU. Remember xpuScalar and ....1 moe, cant remember the name, to do the trick. But they where pay software and apperently my key has expired at Handango (lol its only ...what, 6-7 years ago =). Prolly wont work with 6.5 anyway, wich is a shame. Btw, can you restore a 60MB made 6.5 device to original rom? Guess my Swedish rom is gone forever =( If i get a second BA i think of having this restored to original just for kicks.
Anyways, a long post for a short word, thnx once again all Blue Angel lovers.