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Preferences and storage status

morning all,
two questions.
Firstly, roughly what are peoples memory status.
I've got a 1GB card that I install most stuff to and it's only 22% full, and my main memory is showing storage free 30MB (out of 54) and program free memory is at 19 (out of 48)
I'm curious as two what other people have.
secondly.
the programs I have installed are
Photocontacts Pro
SBP Pocket plus
SBP Backup
Resco Explorer
Resco Registry
WIFI Companion
and a whole bunch of games
The only thing I use on SBP pocketplus is the close program with X thing. I understand that wizbar has this feature too.
would anyone recommend one program over the other? wizbar or SBP pocket plus?
am I missing any other must have programs?
many thanks

Doesn't the ROM include a HTC program that closes items by X as well? I know it was included on my Herald.

HTC Home Plugin (5 tab) causes memory leak

Hi
I'm using the HTC home plugin 5 tab and i experience many memory leak since i've installed the cab (on storage card). Memory usage was 35mb instead of 54mb after soft reset. Program usage seems to be ok. (im using the LSWV WM6 ROM) Do you guys have the same problem?
Does anybody have a good working .cab around?

I have been using the 5 tab plugin (although I removed the quickdial) with AX3L's ROM and I have not had any memory issues.

some times i feel that too..

maevro, how do u removed the quick dial. It would be interesting to find out how to customised HTC Home.
Thanks.

Big Storage?

With all these roms with "Big storage", doesnt that mean we are taking memory for the OS? Dont know about you but i store all my info and files on the micro sd so storage isnt the problem but the OS running low on memory to the point that either the programs like "iGo" wont run. Anyone have any idea to set BIG memory if possible so my 8525 will have the memory it needs to run programs?

No you are way off track on what you are thinking Programs need RAM to run which you can add more by increasing the Pagepool we increase the PROGRAM storage if you run out of ram you should get a kaiser I have never run out and I have loaded and run every app I can at the same time

How does increasing the page pool give you more ram?

I agree, it would be nice to have max ram and just enough for storage for essential programs. I have a fast 6gb microsdhc and install everything on that instead.
Chris

i use iGo for my gps. It will say that I have no ram left, and when I check what other programs are running, i have to basically close everything down to use the program. In my older pdas running windows mobile, I had the option to toggle more storage to ram or visa vera but with wm6 I cant. Is there a hack to have more ram for the os.
The more you use the phone, even with all the programs closed the more ram it will use. Only why to clear the ram is to do a restart.
So if anyone knows a reg hack or something please share, cause so far cant find anything

To clarify (this is my understanding)
The total memory on your device is split into say 4 sections when you get it.
Program memory (RAM) -cleared on a soft reset, only holds running processes etc. CANNOT BE INTERCHANGED WITH OTHER MEMORY _ IS BASICALLY FIXED - except for Page Pool.
Storage - where you store programs/files that are not in the ROM
ROM - where the os lives
Extended ROM - additional ROM space.
Now, certain advances mean that
1. Spare space in the ROM image can be freed up and added to Storage memory - this was the original big storage adjustment
2. the Space used by the extended rom can now also be merged to Storage memory - this is the REAL BIG Storage adjustment.
3 The page pool is like a quick access holding area that the system uses to keep files it uses lots. this is part of the program memory but te system does not report it as such. Hence your total program memory plus your page pool is your real program memory. Thus, reducing the page pool will add to program memory. this may impact the performance of your system however.
All this is only my basic understanding.

crazyC said:
All this is only my basic understanding.
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... and it is completely correct. To say it very clear again:
RAM is physically different memory (different chips) from all other memory. There is no way to get more RAM by sacrificing some storage memory.
That only worked in Windows Mobile 2003, because there also Storage was in RAM. This was changed in WM5, so that data will not get lost when the battery is removed.
Cheers
tadzio

Thanks, that clears that up....lol.
Chris

Memory info
Hi,
I did a little summary of PPC memory here which might be helpful as well.
Best wishes,

Storage Memory Problem
crazyC said:
To clarify (this is my understanding)
The total memory on your device is split into say 4 sections when you get it.
Program memory (RAM) -cleared on a soft reset, only holds running processes etc. CANNOT BE INTERCHANGED WITH OTHER MEMORY _ IS BASICALLY FIXED - except for Page Pool.
Storage - where you store programs/files that are not in the ROM
ROM - where the os lives
Extended ROM - additional ROM space.
Now, certain advances mean that
1. Spare space in the ROM image can be freed up and added to Storage memory - this was the original big storage adjustment
2. the Space used by the extended rom can now also be merged to Storage memory - this is the REAL BIG Storage adjustment.
3 The page pool is like a quick access holding area that the system uses to keep files it uses lots. this is part of the program memory but te system does not report it as such. Hence your total program memory plus your page pool is your real program memory. Thus, reducing the page pool will add to program memory. this may impact the performance of your system however.
All this is only my basic understanding.
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Thank you very much! This explanation is very useful.
Now I will need some help from the more experienced users...
I'm using a T-Mobiles MDA (838Pro) running WM6, CE OS 5.2.1437 (Build 17944.0.3.1).
For the last month or so, I kept getting messages to say that my Storage Memory is critically low.
I have all my documents, ring tones, music, photos, video, etc. saved on my storage card. So there is practically nothing stored in the device ROM. I've checked all folders under "My Device", and there weren't really a lot of files in there.
I've used Oxios ClearApp and Hibernate to do clean up a few times a day. But that doesn't seems to help.
I've installed Clear Temp and use that to clean up the temp files. It works for a few days, but then the problem returned.
I've even deleted some programs, but it looks like whatever gets freed up will just be quickly be eaten up again.
Has anyone even experienced or heard of something similar? If so, please help!
Thank you very much!
John

Storage Memory Problem
jso905 said:
Thank you very much! This explanation is very useful.
Now I will need some help from the more experienced users...
I'm using a T-Mobiles MDA (838Pro) running WM6, CE OS 5.2.1437 (Build 17944.0.3.1).
For the last month or so, I kept getting messages to say that my Storage Memory is critically low.
I have all my documents, ring tones, music, photos, video, etc. saved on my storage card. So there is practically nothing stored in the device ROM. I've checked all folders under "My Device", and there weren't really a lot of files in there.
I've used Oxios ClearApp and Hibernate to do clean up a few times a day. But that doesn't seems to help.
I've installed Clear Temp and use that to clean up the temp files. It works for a few days, but then the problem returned.
I've even deleted some programs, but it looks like whatever gets freed up will just be quickly be eaten up again.
Has anyone even experienced or heard of something similar? If so, please help!
Thank you very much!
John
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Dear friends:
Things have gone worse... My Storage Memory has dropped so low that I can't even send out any long SMS anymore.
It looks like I might have found where the problem is, but still don't know how it happened and how to solve it.
First, when I open Settings>Remove Programs, I see that practically all the appication programs are listed under "Programs in storage memory", including those that weren't even installed by me, like "Cyberon VoiceCommander". I'm not sure whether this is talking about the same "Storage Memory". But I thought that when I choose "Install in My Device" when installing a program, it is supposed to go into the "Program Memory", not "Storage Memory"?
Secondly, I took a closer look under "File Explorer", and I've finally found a few files that are very large size:
pim.vol (in root directory), 6.35MB
cemail.vol (in root directory), 412KB
compimeh.0904 (in Windows directory), 16.8MB
It also looks like these files will be amended every time when I do an ActiveSync. Not sure whether this is what caused my Storage Memory to go down everyday.
Has anyone experienced something similar? Would anyone have an idea of what these files are and whether it is safe to delete them?
I really appreciate if someone can help!
Thank you very much!
John

Thanks to those who were reading and trying to help. I have part of the mystery solved.
From this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...=compimeh.0904
I learnt that the file compimeh.0904.dat is in fact the dictionary that the Hermes used to autofill when we type our e-mails and messages. It will keep growing as we use those functions.
I have followed the instruction on the thread and deleted the file. Now I have 16.8MB back.
But I still don't understand how 30MB of my Storage Memory would be occupied. If some friends here can shed some light, it would be most appreciated.

A bunch of questions...

Hi,
I've been using my Artemis for 2-3 weeks now and i absolutely love it, even more so after installing Meschle's Rom (thanks for that one).
I'm always discovering new things to do with my artemis and unfortunately in doing so i also discover things i can't figure out for myself. So i hope some of the forum veterans can provide me with an answer to any of the following questions:
1. I installed PocketGba and it runs very well for the most part. But when trying to run games like Fire Emblem GBA it says 'insufficient memory'. I've been reading through a lot of pages concerning this and discovered it has to do with memory allocation. The question is: how can i safely relocate memory to play these bigger kind of games?
2. I set up my Outlook work account on my Artemis and i was wondering how i could change the setting as to receive the mail on my storage card.
3. Which of these applications is better than the built-in calendar: Agenda Fusion, SPB Diary or SBSH? I would just like a better organizer for appointments and such. If i install one of these, will there be any conflict problems with the present organizer? Can i transfer existing appointments to the new organizer?
4. How can I change my contacts as to display only contacts stored on the phone (no longer double displaying with sim contacts)?
5. How can i add and save words to the XT9 dictionary? Adding isn't the problem here, but keeping them for future use is.
6. In trying to re-install TomTom Navigator 6 some strange things have happened. As it turns out, TomTom didn't install correctly and is spread among a couple of folders. Can someone tell me if it's save to delete these folders and try installing Navigator again?
Showing under My Device: Program Files > Navigator: contacts, itn, logging, voices, navigator, ttnavigator.
Showing under Storage Card: My Documents > TomTom : empty folder
Showing under Storage Card: ttnavigator.
Can i safely remove all these files manually? If i want to re-install TT6...can i just put it on my storage card and run the program from my storage card?
Also, how do i create shortcuts on my device to programs stored on my storage card?
7. I'm using the installed Java Midlet manager Jbed and have thus far installed Opera Mini on it. I'm also trying to download games to my phone. For example: Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix. I tried everything but i just can't seem to download the game to my Artemis. Nor from the eamobile site, nor through vodafone live portal. Any help here would be greatly appreciated (also indicating which phone version of these kind of games is best suited to the Artemis, for example Nokia N series).
That's about it for now ))))
Thanks!!

Excellent questions. I thought I'd be able to help, but I'm kinda stumped on most of them. I'm also using a ROM from Meschle, and I'm using Agenda fusion for the home page. It's free, simple, and very customizable. Don't know about the others.
I haven't used the GBA emulator yet, but I am using a full Nintendo emulator and games run fine on my device. I'm thinking your memory issue is a problem with the settings or you my just have to find another emulator.
And with TomTom, I've never had a problem installing that program. How are you installing it? Cab file? I have a cab file I can email you if your interested. I just bought the software and copied the cab file from the CD. Works everytime.

re tom tom cab file
Hi I have the tom tom cab file, but only have the map for part of ni can anyone mail me the map for the uk?
Cheers all
merry xmas

Heres answer to your question 2 and 4.
UnShow Contacts from Sim
HKCU\ControlPanel\Phone\ShowSim
Normally the value is 1! Set this to 0 and soft reset!
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Change the location of email and attachments
HKCU\Software\Microsoft\MAPI\PropertyPath =
"\Storage Card\Mail" (REG_SZ string, no quotes)
HKCU\Software\Microsoft\MAPI\AttachPath =
"\Storage Card\Mail\Attachments" (REG_SZ string, no quotes)
To return to the original location:
Just simply delete these Registry settings (since neither is included by default).
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Change the location of Temporary Internet Files
When browsing the web, pages and images are saved in the 'Temporary Internet Files' location. You can change this location to, for example, your Storage Card:
HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Shell Folders\Cache = "\Storage Card\cacheie" (REG_SZ string, no quotes)

Thanks nm8.
I am using the Touch lite rom from Meschle. And I don't think it comes with a registry editor. Is it worth getting Resco or is there a better, free alternative? I was looking at Schap's advanced config tool. But i'm guessing it doesn't allow registry changing. It does seem to allow to disable displaying sim contacts. Don't know if it also allows for changing the storage of e-mail and attachments to storage card.
All in all i think it's probably safer for a newbie to get the advanced config tool instead of trying to change registry settings, right?
The only thing i find strange is that Meschle indicates that the total free program memory should be 25MB. I have only installed a couple of extra programs (on storage card) and my device says it only has 16.9 MB free.
After disabling Cube and soft resetting device I gained 22MB free program memory. I can now load and run Fire Emblem on PocketGba. Unfortunately the device freezes when a battle is about to take place. Seems like the Artemis isn't really equipped to play these kinds of games. Same thing happens when changing video display and such. Shame. If anyone knows of a solution...
Disabled the cube, soft resetted my device and gained 22 MB free program memory. Now the PocketGba runs Fire Emblem untill a battle starts and then it just freezes my device. Strange. This game only needs 16MB free program memory. I have been playing with video settings and such and it still freezes. Seems like the Artemis isn't really equipped to run this...
@shawndh:
I've read everywhere that PocketGba is the best GBA emulator out there. It can theoretically load 32MB cartridge files according to memory state. As i stated above, I only have around 16.9 MB free. So it really is a question of memory allocation. Which emulator are you using and does it allow you to play any GBA cartridge?
About TT6. Thanks for offering the cab. But i would like to know first if it is safe to delete the files i mentioned in my topic start post.
Anyway thanks everyone for the input. Keep it coming this way )

Registry editor is available on this ROM, its part of the TaskManager
Start->Program->Accessories->TaskManager
Go to Menu->Create RegEdit Shortcut.
Regedit is then available from the Drop Down arrow in top right hand corner.

Bejito007 said:
Hi,
3. Which of these applications is better than the built-in calendar: Agenda Fusion, SPB Diary or SBSH? I would just like a better organizer for appointments and such. If i install one of these, will there be any conflict problems with the present organizer? Can i transfer existing appointments to the new organizer?
Thanks!!
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Pocket Informant is excellent replacement for outlook although its not free, not tried the ones you mentioned. I believe most of the replacements use the same database to store the appt/task/etc and therefore all you appointments will automatically be available.

Thanks premkang. Unfortunately the Task Manager on the lite version is 2.0 instead of 2.8. The 2.0 version doesn't allow to enter the registry.
About PocketGba: I disabled the cube, performed a soft reset et voila 22MB of free program memory. I can now run Fire Emblem, but whenever a battle is about to take place the Artemis freezes. I'm guessing the Artemis isn't really equiped to run these kinds of games smoothly (even after altering video settings). If someone else has it working, let me know.

hey mate, don't know if any of this'll help, but...
with regard to your gaming problem have you seen the change pool size thread? allows you to change the memory pool size so that you can allocate more memory for larger applications (but a less memory for fast system operation) and vice versa. i gather, running vanilla, you want the quick system so it might not be of any help;
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=323885&highlight=change+page+pool
also your tt6 query, i don't like it being installed on the device without the option to install on the storage card. i cut all files on the device that you mentioned and placed them in prog files on the storage (same as they would be in prog files on device). i then copied the tomtom navigator.exe (the one with the red hands 2.4mb) and in windows folder paste shortcut in;
1.AppButtons - to allow button config for tt, if required.
2.StartMenu/Programs - so that it shows up in the programs menu.
this frees up 2.5mb on the device. i dont know about which files can be deleted though. all i have on my storage card are;
main storage card;
Western_Europe...map - (file)
Voices (file)
Zip (postcodes ((file))
ttnavigator.bif (331b)
Program Files/Navigator within this are
contacts (file)
itn (file)
logging (file)
voices (file)
ttnavigator.bif (331b)
CurrentMap.dat (45b)
navigator.cfg (252b)
TomTomNavigator.exe (2.4mb)
DATA.CHK (2.6mb)
had it running for a while and all is fine. sorry if this is f*$king long winded, i'm a bit pissed and a novice, so i don't know if it's any help at all!!
good luck mate
also with regard to your query for xt9 saving ive started a thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1767135#post1767135, handy idea - like it

hx4700 - filesys.exe issues

Folks I am no guru like yourselves but hope you can shed light or make some suggestions. I was wondering why performance was so appalling after installing all my apps after upgrading the ROM (btw this also applies to original WM5 from HP) . I have tried WM5, WM6 and numerous WM6.1 ROMS always the same problem.
Issue is filesys.exe taking in between 85-95% CPU until application removed.
I watched the system using acbtaskman
All ROMS work fine after initial install. I see filesys activity during active sync and SD CARD or file system access as expected , but never goes above 50% CPU. I then start installing apps and watched for the issue . This is how it went as I also wanted to track memory usage for leaks as well. All applications are installed on Device not SD Card (except TomTom). Also in most cases this is not USING the apps just installing them.
Action..............CPU..........Memory Hit (Start at 29/30 Meg)
SD Card In........OK............27.5
SPB Mobile........OK............24.4
TomTom...........OK............23.6
mNotes(4)........100%.........24.3 - removed reset
easysync 426....OK............22.4 25.0 after reset
SPB Weather.....OK............25.0
SPB Finance......100%........24.2 - removed reset
MS Money........100%.........24.0 - removed reset (not supported I know)
eWallet.............OK............24ish
SPB Plus...........100%.........24ish - removed
Resco Explorer....OK............21.8
Opera Browser....OK............21.8
Is this just me or do others have problems. Looks to me that old apps and SPB code looks flaky. i.e SPB Plus and SPB Finance. As MS Money 2005 PPC doesn't work (and this was last UK version) and SPB Finance have a real pain that I dont have a working financial application (oh and Ultrasoft wouldn't install).

Found fix
I know I am replying to myself but I found the fix somebody on xda has been kind enough to post instruction on how to patch the program I used in WM5. Here is link to the info :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2251594