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automatic install without hacking rom!

Hi Folks,
i found a trick to make an autoinstall from strorage card (like from extended Rom)!
autorun.exe looks for the file config.txt on the place is in registry stored in:
"HKLM\Comm"
"AutoRunCFG" = "\Speicherkarte\Autoinstall\config.txt"
so i changed the registry entry and now i am able to put config.txt and the files to install on every place i want.
on windows Mobile 2003 devices this works wonderful!
on problem i have now with windows mobile 5 devices:
when installing a question appears where to store files (device or storage card)!
can anybody help me to get rid of this question during automatic cab install??
i want install all cab files to device without any questions!!

pbelcl: apologies for my ignorance, but is this very different to a 2577 folder?
with a 2577 cab we could use this info:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=225375#225375
and choose a default install folder I think for WM5.
V

Thanks for your quick answer!
i read the other tread and if i understood it right i have to remove the .dll file from my cabs?
i'll try this and tell you if it worked ....

I think the other way round.
I've never done it before, but you need to make a custom cab and .inf file, and specify the installation location in therere, and then the "choose a location" dialog doesn't come up. I'm not sure, I'll try this at home later.
V

vijay555 said:
...I'll try this at home later.
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Thanks, that would be interesting for me because i cant generate cab files because i hav no developer software for this.
i also have access to a cab file manager (at a customer) where i can edit the cab files and change them as i need it.
if it is possible to generate an "empty" cab file for me that would be nice ....

pbelcl: I never use the cabwizard either, I use cab manager. To make an empty cab, take any normal cab (download one of mine?) and just remove all the files from it. That's what I always do!
V

vijay555 said:
.just remove all the files from it. That's what I always do!V
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ok, this is also my way to get an empty cab file
there is one question interesting:
Sometimes there is a "CheckFile.exe" and a "CeSetup.dll" in the cab file.
Do i need them for any work during install this cabfile or can i delete them also?

I remove everything from my cabs, and then use cab manager and drag and drop stuff. So I've never used those files. I will have to read up on how to make a "normal", but I don't think they're necessary if you didn't put them in there!
V

Hi folks,
again my last problem with automatic install on WM5 devices:
when my automatism starts to install the cab files (from where ever) each time there comes a popup windows where to install the cabfile (storage card or device).
for my routines it is not important becaue most of my cab files only set some registry keys and dont install files on the device!
Does anybody know how i can get rid of this window and install the files to device WITHOUT question popup window??

how to change files in windows directory

I connect universal to my pc w/ usb and want to rename/delete files in windows directory. It told me some pemmisson error. How can I do such things?
I can create new folds in the directory.
Seems a new bie question. thanks in advance.

Files in the windows folder are generally ROM files, so you can't really delete them, they'll just come back from ROM when you reset.
So - you can use the old technique, normally, of using something like gsfinder, rename the file you want to change, eg ctlpnl.exe to ctlpnl.orig, then copy a new file into the windows folder and rename it to ctlpnl.exe.
That works well with some files, but not all.
To do some heavy duty modding, you would have to make your own rom. Find RomTools by Mamaich.
V

But I can't rename any files belong to original rom. When I use GSfinder to rename the file, it also reported "Cannot rename file.". I checked the property of the file, it has "rom" property and the checkbox of "rom" property is gray.
How?
I attached a jpg file when I want to change the name of "smartdialing.dll".

My device info:
ROM: 1.30.111 WWE
Radio: 1.11.00
Protocal: 42.45.P8
ExtROM: 1.30.230 WWE
T-Mobile Germany version

As you say, if it's a proper ROM file that wants to be stubborn (it may already be in use. Try closing the app using a good task manager first) then your other option could just be burning a new rom.
Why do you need to rename it?
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vijay555 said:
As you say, if it's a proper ROM file that wants to be stubborn (it may already be in use. Try closing the app using a good task manager first) then your other option could just be burning a new rom.
Why do you need to rename it?
V
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It seems that's not the reason. I can't even rename a htm or gif file with ROM property.
I want to localize smartdialing.dll.
Thanks for your quick response!

I think there's already a tutorial/solution to a localized smartdialler.
Can't remember the poster, check Buzz's site.
V

yes, I want to create a Chinese version of smartdialing based on their tutorial.
However, I tried to replace the original dll with my modified one, and FAILED. That's really troublesome. Seems nobody else has the same issue as mine.

Got a simular problem.
I'm trying to install OZVGA and according to the instructions you need to copy some files (Backlight.exe Camera.exe etc.) into the windows directory, but i'm not allowed to do so. Files are read only or in use.
Some suggestions?

Use TotalCommander.

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Use TotalCommander.
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useless.
Any one knows why?

I had the ozvga issue. I installed the extended ROM unlocker (from buzzdev.net I think) and then it let me replace them.
Hope this helps.
Coincidentally, I've just upgraded to the latest T-Mobile ROM and need to re-apply ozvga but I can't find the files/instructions anymore. Got a link handy?

Installing software from Extended ROM

Hi
I wonder if somebody could give me some pointers on how to modify software installtion CAB's so that I can load them into extended ROM so that on a hard reset they automatically install & register..
For example SPB GPS monitor. I've downloaded the CAB and install file. I have installed it to my MDA,registered it and downloaded the tariff file.
Now, I can find the tariff registry file and update the CAB file (using WinCAB). Also, I can search for the registration files in the registry an add those to the CAB file.
But how do I automatically install to the device or storage card without having to specify?? Has anybody customised the install CAB's???
Cheers
John

Well for doing this u must do the following:
1) unhide the extended_rom
2) unlock it
3) view it with a third party program
4) copy into it the .cab u want
5) edit config.txt in extended_rom so it will run the .cab u want.
But the most important thing u must do.... it took me 2 days to find it out and over 20 hard reset... is to first run a .cab file that it will disable the wm5 security. When u install a program not to ask u if it is not authorized.
That is it...

I cannot find a working cab to disable the WM5 security.
Can you point me in the right direction?

Thanks for that. But I have no problem with modifying the extended ROM. What I wanted to know was is there a way that when a CAB file is run from extended ROM it will be installed to the device/Storage card and be registered, withour having to enter anything during installation.
I guess I could look for the Registry entries and make those into a CAB file, I wondered if the program installation CAB could be mofified in any way??
Cheers
Ody

Guys! we need a coherent install that works for Touchflo

There are alot of "guides" to getting Touchflo on your Hermes. All of them not too easy to follow. problems / bugfixes are hard to find info on i.e. solve.
Please can someone put together a comprehensive easy to follow guide?
Ta...

download this cab and install.
go to file explorer and the go to my device page.
now open program files.
now open FTouchFlo file.
Cut FTouchFlo (NOT FTouchFlo Config File).
Back up to dir my device and open windows dir.
now open startup file.
now paste FTouchFlo File here.
Now copy FtouchFlo File and go back to the file you cut FTouchFlo from
and paste a shortcut there.
once this is done open config file and adjust the delay like you want to.
once this is done soft reset and enjoy touch flo scrolling only.
cube i am still working on but no luck at this time.

I followed your instructions to the letter on my Tytn Hermes200, and on start up after a SR I get a error. It says...
FTouchFlo Error
Can't read configuration
You said this...
Now copy FtouchFlo File and go back to the file you cut FTouchFlo from
and paste a shortcut there.
I tried placing a Shortcut in the programs FTouch folder AND I also have a COPY of the file in there now, and I get the same error !
You said this...
once this is done open config file and adjust the delay like you want to.
I think this has something to do with it, right? I do not know the setting to change or what value to make it work in the note file. Can you please tell me?

gemblaster said:
I followed your instructions to the letter on my Tytn Hermes200, and on start up after a SR I get a error. It says...
FTouchFlo Error
Can't read configuration
You said this...
Now copy FtouchFlo File and go back to the file you cut FTouchFlo from
and paste a shortcut there.
I tried placing a Shortcut in the programs FTouch folder AND I also have a COPY of the file in there now, and I get the same error !
You said this...
once this is done open config file and adjust the delay like you want to.
I think this has something to do with it, right? I do not know the setting to change or what value to make it work in the note file. Can you please tell me?
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when you edited the config file you probibly saved it as a word file instead of keeping it intact, which would result in that erro
reinstall it and when you go to save the file dont save it as a word file, keep it intact.

Awesome work. Very easy to do and works well. I no longer have to use Pocket CM!

Hi, i tried to use Slither's Cube Launcher with Schaps RC 4.0 Version. This Cube launcher uses FTouchFlo too.
Didn't work, because the Path to AdobeFlashLite doesn't exist in Schaps ROM (But it's inside the ROM)
Reason: No File exists
DownUpApp: /Program Files/Adobe/FlashLite/saplaywm.exe
So I installed Adobe Flash Lite 2.1 as a cab and then it does work, but it only opens the "Cube" which has no function. Buttons do not work and doesn't rotate.
Has somebody tried to use Slither's Cube with Hermes? Does anybody have a working Config file?
I like the app, because i lost my stylus and FTouchFlo is working well, but Cube as addon would be great.

This is a timely thread. I too have tried to install touchflo and got nowhere fast.
So someone coming along and offering simple, bullet proof instructions is a godsend. Thank you sir!
I will try this later; just trying to decide whether to move roms to schaps 4.0 or not. Decisions, decisions...
WB

shanetheclassic said:
when you edited the config file you probibly saved it as a word file instead of keeping it intact, which would result in that erro
reinstall it and when you go to save the file dont save it as a word file, keep it intact.
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The only file I saw that was able to be edited was mentioned in the instructions here....
Cut FTouchFlo (NOT FTouchFlo Config File).
So i DID NOT EDIT or move THE CONFIG FILE. I only looked in it after I got the first error as the instructions seem to mention changing the delay responce time.
Am I missing something else here? I am sorry if it is obvious but I am just not seeing it.
Thanks
Gem

The movement of the .exe file to the startup folder is obviously so it starts automatically everytime you reset.
This can also be achieved by using MemMaid (add a startup link it's straightforwards in the software) or by creating a shortcut in Resco Explorer. This way you dont need to move the original file yet still get the automatic start.

I like to TouchFlo cab, but it seems to make my HTC Camera Album not function 100%. Am I the only one? So I've kept iContact, as it dosent mess with Camera Almun and I love the way it scrolls.
If I could get TouchFlo to work and not mess with any of my other apps I'd love to keep it.

RojasTKD said:
I like to TouchFlo cab, but it seems to make my HTC Camera Album not function 100%. Am I the only one? So I've kept iContact, as it dosent mess with Camera Almun and I love the way it scrolls.
If I could get TouchFlo to work and not mess with any of my other apps I'd love to keep it.
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I have no such a problem, even though I did not even put a HTC Camera Album to be ignored by the fTouchFlo. You can try to edit the fTouchFlo config by adding HTC Camera to the ignored apps list. Let us know the result...

UPDATE!!! Directions = WORKS a TREAT:-D
Sorry guys, and THANKS for all your HELP! I just removed FTouchFlo ver 1.3 (was using as it worked good for me and didn't get around to installing the latest), and installed the latest Version 1.4. Followed the instructions as I did before and WORKS A TREAT 1st SR!!! YA! This is a great tip .
Thanks for all!
Gem
FTouchFlo Ver1.4 ONLY works this way! Note to others who may have older versions

Hey guys i edited the cab file.
You just need to install it and do a soft reset..
After this TouchFlo should be working on your hermes rom!
For me it works on my own rom

Hi Pay87, I would want ask You if your TouchFLO cab it's customizable like on Schap's 4.22 ROM.
Thank's.

ROM Customization Tool - Pandora PreConfig Launcher

So here's the scoop. You got this killer rom, but it loads a whole bunch of stuff that you don't want. You get around this by resetting before the configuration starts after aligning the screen.
You might have a host of cabs that you always load, and after you flash you need to run each one. Every rom you use it's the same thing - flash the rom, then load all your cabs.
Or, you may have a program you want to execute, such as enabling SetHSDPA.
Here's a way to "automate" it so you can use the power and flexibility of the PreConfig funtion as an "after the flash" customization tool, and make subsequent installations much faster.
You'll need a folder on your storage card called CABS, and in that folder put the attached file called CFG.txt as well as the cabs / exe's etc (unless they're already in the ROM, then just point the config file to the correct path) that you want to run. The CFT.txt is the file that will tell it what to install, and is exactly like the PreConfig.txt file - see my extended rom thread for ideas on what you can do with it.
Basically, here's the contents of the CFG.txt file I attached:
LOCK:Enabled
CAB: \Storage Card\CABS\A2DPFix.CAB
CAB: \Storage Card\CABS\ATIFix.cab
CAB: \Storage Card\CABS\Cingular_WAP_MediaNet_MMS_Settingsv2_No_ICON_Change.cab
CAB: \Storage Card\CABS\Google Maps Cell.CAB
CAB: \Storage Card\CABS\Monopoly.cab
CAB: \Storage Card\CABS\NETCFv2.wm.armv4i.cab
CAB: \Storage Card\CABS\S2U2-0.72-WM5.cab
CAB: \Storage Card\CABS\Solitare.cab
CAB: \Storage Card\CABS\StartClean.cab
LOCKisabled
RST: Reset
Just list out your cabs or actions in this file - and be sure the files you are referring to are in the destination path.
To use this setup:
Edit the CFG.txt file and place in \Storage Card\CABS (if the folder isn't there, create it)
Copy your cabs/exes into this folder, being sure they are set to READ ONLY.
Install the attached cab, and after you reset it'll start the installation!
Once the installation is complete and the phone resets - you can remove the program from Settings-Remove Programs.
Important Notes:
Don't forget to make your CABs READ ONLY - or they'll delete after installing. YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!!!
Ensure that the cabs you're installing does not require any user input. If it does, it will hang the installation process, you'll need to reset the phone, and not all of your stuff will get installed.
Known list of NOT COMPATIBLE files:
MS Reader

Sweet bro!!! I am all over it, will give it a go and let you know my results!!! Very cool stuff!

You Rock!
Downloading Now!
Can I put this on My Treo?

berdinkerdickle said:
You Rock!
Downloading Now!
Can I put this on My Treo?
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sure, if it's WM5/6.

mattk_r said:
sure, if it's WM5/6.
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Jokes on Me.
Seriously Though,
This is Great!
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Ensure that the cabs you're installing does not require any user input. If it does, it will hang the installation process, you'll need to reset the phone, and not all of your stuff will get installed.
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We do want to be sure not to use apps that require a reset.

great! That's what I was looking for recently

Is there a way to get cab files to default to installing on a Storage Card? I'm trying to prevent it from asking me where I want to install it and thus causing this tool from hanging up.
Nevermind, I made a bad assumption (yes, I know what they say about assuming things) that the PreConfig Launcher would hang up waiting for input for where to install something. I just tested it out on a cab that allows a user to override the installation directory and everything worked fine.
Sorry.

kc_hubbard said:
Is there a way to get cab files to default to installing on a Storage Card? I'm trying to prevent it from asking me where I want to install it and thus causing this tool from hanging up.
Nevermind, I made a bad assumption (yes, I know what they say about assuming things) that the PreConfig Launcher would hang up waiting for input for where to install something. I just tested it out on a cab that allows a user to override the installation directory and everything worked fine.
Sorry.
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You could edit your cabs and have them install to the storage card by default - or at least I think you could. I'm thinking something like %storage card%. If I get a chance I'll poke around WinCE Cab Manager and see if it's possible.

I just tested it by building a cab to install to the folder /Storage Card, and it worked fine.

mattk_r said:
I just tested it by building a cab to install to the folder /Storage Card, and it worked fine.
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Matt,
While I'm not quite the noob the number of posts would indicate I am, I admit that I haven't done much w/ building cab's. In an attempt to build one to install directly to the storage card, I've used WinCE to alter the default directory and have altered _setup.xml file, both to no avail.
While my pride says not to ask you to tell me how you set the cab up to install to storage, I'm not above asking you to post the example you created to test this so that I can look it over and try to figure this out for myself.
Would you mind attaching a cab file that installs directly to storage for me? Please?

kc_hubbard said:
Matt,
While I'm not quite the noob the number of posts would indicate I am, I admit that I haven't done much w/ building cab's. In an attempt to build one to install directly to the storage card, I've used WinCE to alter the default directory and have altered _setup.xml file, both to no avail.
While my pride says not to ask you to tell me how you set the cab up to install to storage, I'm not above asking you to post the example you created to test this so that I can look it over and try to figure this out for myself.
Would you mind attaching a cab file that installs directly to storage for me? Please?
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I could - but this is super easy. When you add a file, you get a window with three tabs, one being location. In that tab, you'll have the folder view. Click on the root '/' folder and press 'new folder'. Call it Storage Card.
That's it!

mattk_r said:
I could - but this is super easy. When you add a file, you get a window with three tabs, one being location. In that tab, you'll have the folder view. Click on the root '/' folder and press 'new folder'. Call it Storage Card.
That's it!
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I must be an idiot to not have been able to figure that out (and my day job is computer programming, albeit on IBM Mainframes). Will work on this again once I'm back home. I'm sure big brother is already not too happy w/ all the time I spend on the forums anyway.
Thanks Matt!

so, if i were flashing a ROM i would flash, install the cab and then, assuming i already have my cabs and config files on my card, i hard reset and this should launch ok?
thanks,
mark

AximMarkSD said:
so, if i were flashing a ROM i would flash, install the cab and then, assuming i already have my cabs and config files on my card, i hard reset and this should launch ok?
thanks,
mark
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From what I've done/learned no hard reset is required. You install the Pandora PreConfig Launcher and let your phone Restart. When it restarts, your cabs in the CFG.TXT file will be installed.

so after a flash or a hard reset (for whatever reason) you just install the cab and then soft reset and it will install your cabs?

AximMarkSD said:
so after a flash or a hard reset (for whatever reason) you just install the cab and then soft reset and it will install your cabs?
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correct - as long as your cabs and the configuration file reside in the CABS folder on your storage card

mattk_r said:
correct - as long as your cabs and the configuration file reside in the CABS folder on your storage card
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right.
thanks. that's a great tool.
pardon the ignorance but i've never played w/ the WinCE cab manager. can i change the default install location on commercial cabs that i've purchased (assuming they require no interaction during install)?

AximMarkSD said:
right.
thanks. that's a great tool.
pardon the ignorance but i've never played w/ the WinCE cab manager. can i change the default install location on commercial cabs that i've purchased (assuming they require no interaction during install)?
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Yes you can change the default install directory.

Matt,
Thanks for this great program. It makes changing roms SOOO much easier!! When combined with WinCE cab manager, you can autoinstall just about any program. This thread should be stickied.

Quick guide on how to get programs to install to storage card used WinCE Cab Manager. This guide was modified from K's FlexiRom instructions:
Preparing the cabs
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- To set the cabs to a static path, install WinCECab Manager.
- Open a cab with WinCE Cab Manager and click on "CAB Information".
- Double click on "Default Install Dir" then select "Installation Directory"
- Change the default install directory to what every use desire. Do this by creating new directories under "/". For most users wanting to install on storage card, change path to "/Storage Card/Program Files/cabname". Before moving on to the next step, make sure that once you make the folders, click the desired installation path and click "APPLY".
- After applying the new default installation path, choose "Do not allow user to select installation directory"
- Check if there "Setup dll" is present under Cab Information. If setup dll is present, delete it off. [this step is from K's instructions, not sure if it is necessary or not. I've been doing it.]
- Save the cab then right click on the can and select "Read Only" and click apply/OK.
- Check and prepare all the cabs you want to auto install and place them into the CABS Folder of your storage card.
PS Using WinCE Cab manager, you can also modify the shortcuts of the program.