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WM2005 sucks?

Looks like wm2005 still not very stable, a lot of programs still not working.
For example, Xbackup, set as ringtone or Monster Chinese, etc.

well alot of programs required new versions when 2003SE came out as well

ttseng said:
Looks like wm2005 still not very stable, a lot of programs still not working.
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Using it on my Imate for a month or more and no problem so far and no lock-ups like there were on WM2003SE

I think the title of this thread is misleading... :?
The fact that it does not run several applications or crashes is because:
1.- This version is not final
2.- It's not compatible because of it's very nature, IT'S A NEW OS!!!
The same happened when we upgraded our PCs to Windows XP don't you remember?
New versions will start to come up eventually, and even if you don't see any advances "right-out-of-the-box" it's because the main improvements on this OS reside behind the scenes, so Programmers will start to develop new and exciting apps that take advantage of the new features and APIs.
For me Windows Mobile 5.0 has been very stable even with the very first version that Buzz, Toe and the gang which had very limited memory resources I had no stability problems whatsoever.
There are limitations of course, (like no MMS, mediocre video camera, sms problems, etc) but eventually Microsoft OR our very own developers will take care of that!
So, BE PATIENT!!!!! :wink:

Hi,
Using it for 3 days in my Qtek 2020 and no problem at all.
Even Jabra250 works fine, when in 2003SE was difficult to setup.
About software that don't work, we must wait until new versions come out...
I'm sure when you update you computer from NT to W2K you has software that didn't work and had to buy new versions, so why should be different here?
Be patient.... Mobile5 is ok for now.
AF

if only we can fix the camera it would be Superb

Xeon said:
if only we can fix the camera it would be Superb
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if only we could run it on magician

some0NE said:
Xeon said:
if only we can fix the camera it would be Superb
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if only we could run it on magician
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i double that

Rayan & all the rest are right!!!
I can't agree less to what Rayan wrote.
It's a new OS and a beta for that matter (check out Goras thread on "WM2005 that I can share"), If I'm not mistaken it's not also intended for Himalaya, judging on the memory problems just solved(!) by Buzz, toenailed, XdaJojo, mamaich & all the other contributors as well.
Personally in my opinion its a lot 'solid' than the WM2003 & SE since it has to crash yet on my xda II, as mentioned by Rayan even the initial release of the OS with limited memory was stable.
The problems with the apps like backup & camera are being solved one-by-one, MMS which doesn't even start before is now working (check out the threads on WM2005 in the forum).
Even now, the benefits of using the OS in terms of performance, stability & looks far outweighs its limitations (in my humble opinion) just be patient & leave it to the WIZARDS (Buzz, toenailed, XdaJojo, etc. etc. etc).
Besides, hey ttseng this is the xda-developers forum & we all are having fun testing, tweaking, & breathing new life to our "soon to be outlawed" XDA II ....... if not for the WIZARDS in the forum !!!!! Notice the request for the OS on the other xda models, aren't we lucky we have the WiZARDS working on the HIMA? :lol:
Cheers!

works flawlessly on XDA2 Himalaya!!!!!!!!
best os and most stable one ive come across ,wm200se never really happy but this WM2005 is and has been stable without a single hard reset or rest since install.even self configured the o2email and hotmail!! took the o2 uk config & connections setup file from a XDA2s_1-12-178-WWE_UK_Extended_ Rom.

Is there more than one version of WM2005 kicking about?
I successfully installed WM2005 on my XDA II, but I couldn't get many 3rd party apps to install on it. So I was surprised to see screenshots with certain utilities running ok.
I was wondering if there is more than one version of it floating about on the net. The one I installed was found on these forums, but I have recently downloaded another off usenet.
They are both himalaya.
I am sure a non-beta copy will rear its head on here sooner rather than later (I hope!)
Cam

this version is in the ftp section ,the rom has a file name of
wm2k5_XDA2_HIMALAYA_O2_fullRAM.rar

Yep!
That's the one!

That would make both copies I have the same.
Is this a late BETA or even an RTM version?
Now that the OS has been officially released I am guessing it's a race for someone to post the released version ;-)

the official full version is released?
wow!
so when can we have it for download here?
i am planning to put off my upgrade till the full version comes out.
currently i am on the win2003se which i aint very happy with!
plz advise...
thanx everybody.

It out but you cant get it.
I have a friend who is a manger in Microsoft. I sent the MS link of the offical release and asked if it can be obtained from the internal web software store. At the moment it cant and I feel it will also never be the case (2003 the end user could never buy).
So we are back to the carriers and if they will ship 2005 as an upgrade for ood devices or only on new (MDA XDA IV).
Dont think one needs to be a rocket scintist to answer that, was not one of the devices never shipped with 2003, the way I remember it it was buz that did a Chines to English translation.
So at least w on the BA side have to wait untill something gets leaked.

A little help with WM2005 upgrade please!!!!!!!
I see that most people have upgraded to WM2005 without much trouble, but not me!! I am with o2 and I've just upgraded and I can't us GPRS (it keeps trying to dial 193.113.200.195 and then drops the conx even though the IP is entered in the APN section) I can't run Worldmate pro (not compatable), TOMTOM 3 (need to upgrade to ver 4.4) pick up email etc etc.
Could I have the details that you need to enter into your XDA to connect to o2 network via GPRS so that I can access hotmail, messenger, MMS, Internet etc etc
I hope you can help as I don't want to downgrade to the old windows version.

i can send u a O2 customisation cab file if u need ,however your phone must b on contract with O2UK not payg or orange etc..

Yes Please!!
That'll be great. yes I am with O2 contract.......

where is the awesome rom !!! please
iam running w2005 in my XD2..but still MANY applications cant be installed..and i was surprised to see the screenshot (above) with many applications runing ..BUT i couldnt find the ROM...i found only the one for XDA2s..."XDA2s_1-12-178-WWE_UK_Extended_ Rom" actually is a zipped file with no rom inside..just many cab files ..can anyone help me please...thanks guys

New imate ROM - MTN Build?

Has anyone figured out what the difference is with this new ROM specifically for MTN users in South Africa? I am downloading it at the mo, because I am on MTN. I've also had a few problems with the official new ROM (13076_164_10900) when I tried to install my usual apps (pocket plus, pocket informant, SPB Diary, Calligrapher, etc) - the phone would hang if I tried to use it after it went into suspend mode. V irritating! I didn't have this problem with the previous ROMS from either imate or 02. Now I'm just using it with the standard out of the box software and no extra apps installed. Works fine. But I feel naked without my customisations...
Maybe there's some fantastic improvement with this new ROM. Maybe even stereo Bluetooth. Probably not though. No doubt just some wonderfully unique settings to brand it as an MTN phone.
I'll let you guys know when I've done the update.

Zayne,
I had similar problems and it came down to Pocketplus preventing the device coming out of suspend! If you install it last (or re-install it) then I found it corrected the problem.

Everything is working Well for Me
i am using the Standard WWE build and not the MTN build, I suppose the only change is the MTN menu
I am not using SBP PocketPlus anymore
Im Using cLaunch for Today Icons and Magicbutton for Close
in cLaunch link the shortcuts in Windows\Start Menu instead of where the applications are installed and you will not have slow response
The JasJar with the new ROM ROCKS!!!! :lol:

I'm starting to miss the bugs.. Was fun and challenging trying to get the unit to perform faster... Now its plain fluent

I am using the new MTN build..
I have not noticed any differences thought, but I assume they must be there. I guess if you are using MTN, you should probably swap over. Can't hurt?

I'm also using the MTN SA Build. Don't know why there is a special one for MTN. Must be a reason for that.
Must say, the new ROM works like a charm. Much faster than the one that was on my Jasjar. :wink:

The new ROM does seem fast, but I still can't get PocketPlus working. Pity. I was really starting to get used to it.

My Pocket Plus works 100%. What version do you have?

When I could not get pocket plus to load on my universal via active sync, I e-mailed the help desk and they sent me a link to the cab files.
I downloaded these and put them on the universal and it worked straight away.
steve

I've got Pocket Plus 3.1, apparently the latest edition. I've also tried installing it directly from the cab, but no luck. Now I'm on to Resco Explorer and Magic Button. I really loved the alt-tab feature of Pocket Plus...

zayne said:
I've got Pocket Plus 3.1, apparently the latest edition. I've also tried installing it directly from the cab, but no luck. Now I'm on to Resco Explorer and Magic Button. I really loved the alt-tab feature of Pocket Plus...
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Try pqz, has a nice alt-tab feature.

hello.. i´m interested in that imate rom.. ¿where can i get it?
thanks a lot!
OX

New thoughts about P3300 : WM6 / GPS Maps 4 travelling / New soft & hardware

Hi P3300 owners,
After having my P3300 for about 7 months i'm still satisfied, it's more compact than my previous Eten G500 and is exactly the size of a phone.
I use it mainly as a phone, to take quick notes, calculator, gps. First I planned to use it as mp3 player also, but not too much at a time, to save some battery
I saw there is a P3350 allready with added 3G function,but don't need it for the moment. Glad to see this summer WM6 Crossbow will be available for our device (after it wasn't the case firstly) but our P3300 is award-winning, so it deserves the 'vista' for our pocketpc
Now i'd like to discuss some thoughts about new software / hardware :
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1. ROM
I still have the orginal rom 1.12.0.0 and GSM 02.67.90
is it worth upgrading, what is the best rom at the moment + advantages ?
In past I upgraded roms for my xda2i but now i don't seem to bother
2. GPS
I work with tomtom, satisfied, but could be better.
Free TMC instead of paid tomtom plus gprs services + more maps (Greece,Turkey,Thailand) for travelling is what i want.
I tested route 66 & destinator 6 in past but still looking...
Tried to install IGO 2006 and ViaMichelin but both said 'not a valid win 32 application'. I guess it's because I work with Vista 64, but same error on pc of collegue (XP 32bit).
The new Igo8 looks great in 3D : http://www.i-go.com/en/news/index.php?aid=110
What is your favorite GPS program? Your TMC works fine over radio without issues?
4. FREE GPS PROGRAMS
I guess this won't be as nice like paid programs.
Do you know any free gps tools with maps for travelling countries like greece,turkey,thailand for example ? Tried googlemaps and some other but did't get any images.
5. UNMISSABLE SOFTWARE
What are your favorite toolz at the moment ?
For me it's :
- SPB Pocketplus & SPB Backup
- Hitchhiker (still the old 2006 beta, no updates comming
- SkypeLowCpuBeta (free calls when travelling)
In past i tried mobimate world (nice for flight hours updating), Weatherstuff, and RSS News feeds.
6. EXTRA HARDWARE / ACCESSORIES
Checked Ebay for some very cheap usefull accessoires and I found :
- A silicone case + screen protectors
- A Motorola H300 bluetooth headset with 30 hours talktime + 30 days standby due to 1 AAA battery, that's a lot without recharging
- A dual sim adaptor (have 2 simcards, one with free sms after 16hrs+weekend, the other free talktime after 16hrs+weekend talk is cheap
So if you have tips / remarks on these topics, share your thoughts!
Ciao!
Innovator

1. ROM
I have the same ROM. It s stable though so no upgrade needed (unless crossbow of course)
2. GPS
I use MioMap. I had the problem of 'not a valid win 32 application' when running the setup.exe from my pc... then, as suprising as it is, i understood that in fact i had to run the setup.exe from the PPC ! Maybe you should try that too...
3. ???
no 3
4. FREE GPS SOFTWARE
hmm nope i don't have any free one
5. UNMISSABLE SOFTWARES
- SPb Diary
-Spb Mobile Shell
-Citytime (as usefull as worldmate, but lighter and faster.
-Spb Brain Evolution (when i'm bored, it s good to train the brain
-Resco Explorer 2006 (it's a MUST. Comes with Resco Registry)
-MioMap 3.2 - GPS software, imho better than tomtom route66 or any other soft. Not sure what are the exact difference between IGo and MioMap, i just know they are almost identical and same manufacturer, but MioMap is stable on my p3300, Igo wasn't...
- PocketStars : If you like watching stars and want to have all the details of what u r looking at... it's the best. (includes gps function to give your exact realtime sky chart at your position!).
-Metro : all bus & metro of thousands of cities in your p3300 good for travellers.
- SKTools : to optimize the P3300 (free back the ram, deletes invalid notifications queues, etc...).
6. EXTRA HARDWARE / ACCESSORIES
no idea yet, just got my HTC for 2 weeks now, but that dual card sim holder u talk about interest me...

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5. UNMISSABLE SOFTWARE
What are your favorite toolz at the moment ?
For me it's :
- SPB Pocketplus & SPB Backup
- Hitchhiker (still the old 2006 beta, no updates comming
- SkypeLowCpuBeta (free calls when travelling)
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Hi, glad to hear that u are satisfied with the P3300. I would like to ask you about skype. I use also the low cpu version (which hasn't been updated for some time now). The problem is that audio is terrible, i can't hear anything useful only a low pitch sound (although sometimes and for a second or two the voice is ok). Text chatting works very well. I believe that maybe is the slow CPU of the P3300 (and there was no improvement with Overclocking)
Have you noticed similar issues while using skype for voice calls?
Thx

Innovator said:
Free TMC instead of paid tomtom plus gprs services + more maps (Greece,Turkey,Thailand) for travelling is what i want.
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There is no way that TMC will ever be possible on the Artemis, for free that is. Yes, I know that some users disagree, after all, when the radio can handle RDS, why cannot it handle TMC?
According to HTC however it is just not possible and I think they should know best.
Having said that, I do think TMC is not that great. It isn't where I live anyway, with lots of delays. TMC will inform me that there is a traffic jam on the A28, as if I didn't know allready, looking at the 300+ cars in front of me.

Thanks for the heads up on Igo 8, that looks pretty cool. Wonder how well it actually functions in practice. Anyone know if it's released to the public yet?

[RELEASED] O2 Rom Custom Version

I would like to share my cooked version of the official O2 UK released version of Windows Mobile 6 with anyone who’s interested . I cooked up this rom primarily because I use the O2 network (because I use my works sim card). And didn’t want to be messing around setting the thing up every time I hard reset or recooked something new in. I've also left EVERYTHING in for stability as I'm a great believer in the moto "if it isnt broke dont fix it" I also believe compared to HTC’s, ATT and Dopods rom this to me comes out top for stability. Let me give you a example, with all the other 3’s version of this AKU I’ve had problems after a few days syncing with vista however this rom bites first time every time. I've also not seen my phone proforming a radio search with this rom. Anyway let me give you the specs so you can decide
O2 base rom 3.54.206.1
4 Meg Page Pool Version
Storage 52.73 Meg
Program Memory 30.40 Meg
Extended Rom included for fixes and O2 settings
Other added programs are
Black Keyboard
Bluetooth Explorer
BTCrawler
Glossy Black Bars enabler
HTC Audio Manager
X Button 1.5 (29968)
Superbright Screen enabler
O2 plus
(I didnt want to cook in any one version of HTC home or Dialer I've just made the space so you can decide which one to install )
Please read up on how to flash a custom rom if this is your first time as I cannot take any responsibly for your mistakes!
Oh and THANK YOU to mattk_r for taking all the hard work out of cooking, and of course to all the other gods of the kitchen out there
http://rapidshare.com/files/48192101/O2_4MEGPP_BS.rar.html
Enjoy

Thanks Ratcom.
Will give it a spin.

o2 atom life
is this works on o2 atom life.....?

mailpravinat said:
is this works on o2 atom life.....?
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no this is for the Hermes only.

Somebody pls help!!

Ive had my Touch HD for about 4 months now and its starting to loose its mind. The vibration only works sometimes for a few mins and then it stops, its gone really slow and freezes aswell. I am on the verge of selling it and gettin a Blackberry or the nokia e71. Is there anyone who can change my mind and help me with the problems? It would be greatly appreciated as the first few months i thought it was the best phone i ever had!

did you try to hard reset or flash a new rom ??

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did you try to hard reset or flash a new rom ??
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I have done a hard reset and it didnt help. But I have not flashed the rom. I dont even know how to do it. Do you think that it will help?

Yes it will. Follow this:
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=298613
OmZ said:
I have done a hard reset and it didnt help. But I have not flashed the rom. I dont even know how to do it. Do you think that it will help?
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Yes it will. Follow this:
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Will this fix the vibration problem as well because I dont really wanna spend alot of time changing the rom and then I either end up with a bricked device or still have the same issue. Just on the phone to orange now see if they can exchange my handset even though i have had it for 4 months now. wish me luck...

Orange is sending me a new handset tomorrow so hopefully that will fix the problem. They have advised me not to install any 3rd party software for a few days which should not be a big problem. But i was also told that if i experience any other problems on 2 more occasions that I would be able to change my handset for another model which is good customer service
Anyway now that i AM gettin a new touch hd, can anyone of the "senior" members of this forum give me their list of programs installed which have not caused the phone to slow down? I already know of fingerkeyboard, smschat (or smiley sms) and coreplayer. But I still am in need of a good gps software and the upgrade to TF3D v2 or v3 and a gd application to tilt the screen into landscape mode. Any help is much appreciated!

I have been using my HD for a while have not flashed any new ROM's but do have quite a list of 3rd party Windows Mobile software I use on it all working nicely.
Many of my applications are not freeware though, bought over the years as I'm a long time Windows Mobile user.
In my opinion you do not need to flash the ROM to still take advantage of your great HD
My applications include:
Pocket Informant
Resco Utility Pack
Softmaker Office Suite
SPB time
SPB Traveller
SPB Mobile Shell (plus the omnia SPB Skins skinning tool)
SPB Brain Evolution
SPB Finance
SPB Wallet
SPB weather
Pocket Investor
GarminXT GPS
MSS Converter
Phatnotes for MS Outlook
Skype
GSen
LockmeLite
SKTools
Sprite Backup
Finger Keyboard
Google Maps
HD Tweak
PocketMusic
Cheers
Ed

ednap said:
I have been using my HD for a while have not flashed any new ROM's but do have quite a list of 3rd party Windows Mobile software I use on it all working nicely.
Many of my applications are not freeware though, bought over the years as I'm a long time Windows Mobile user.
In my opinion you do not need to flash the ROM to still take advantage of your great HD
My applications include:
Pocket Informant
Resco Utility Pack
Softmaker Office Suite
SPB time
SPB Traveller
SPB Mobile Shell (plus the omnia SPB Skins skinning tool)
SPB Brain Evolution
SPB Finance
SPB Wallet
SPB weather
Pocket Investor
GarminXT GPS
MSS Converter
Phatnotes for MS Outlook
Skype
GSen
LockmeLite
SKTools
Sprite Backup
Finger Keyboard
Google Maps
HD Tweak
PocketMusic
Cheers
Ed
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thanks alot....could you tell which are freeware as this is my first WM device and also how to upgrade to TF3D v3? thank you.

OmZ said:
thanks alot....could you tell which are freeware as this is my first WM device and also how to upgrade to TF3D v3? thank you.
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Why don't you upgrade the stock firmware first to the new 1.56 and new 1.13 radio, supposed to fix a lot of issues and give better battery life / gps signal.

Is that the 1 from the HTC website? cos when i entered my serial number last time it said that the upgrade was not available for me so i assume that i already had the latest version...
EDIT: Dont you just love orange? I have just received my replacement and it is a generic handset. hehehe

Hello omz
To check your rom version start/settings/system/device information with the phone being 4 months old it will more than likely have version 1.14, the latest version 1.56 from htc.com is only available for sim free phones i.e. it was purchased with out a contract. As mentioned else where on this forum, providers like Orange etc will take a few months with there update if they bother at all. If they don’t your other option will be to either flash with a custom rom loads on this site or see if some one will send you there official rom. Software, video convertor http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=474955 this is excellent, screen rotation I like this one http://idevelopstuff.com/dev/WM/Fuze...creen_inst.cab but there is also gyrator, satnav TomTom 7.915 works a treat on these phones. You might also be interested in this app http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=452505 hope this helps Jez