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WM2005 sucks?

Looks like wm2005 still not very stable, a lot of programs still not working.
For example, Xbackup, set as ringtone or Monster Chinese, etc.

well alot of programs required new versions when 2003SE came out as well

ttseng said:
Looks like wm2005 still not very stable, a lot of programs still not working.
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Using it on my Imate for a month or more and no problem so far and no lock-ups like there were on WM2003SE

I think the title of this thread is misleading... :?
The fact that it does not run several applications or crashes is because:
1.- This version is not final
2.- It's not compatible because of it's very nature, IT'S A NEW OS!!!
The same happened when we upgraded our PCs to Windows XP don't you remember?
New versions will start to come up eventually, and even if you don't see any advances "right-out-of-the-box" it's because the main improvements on this OS reside behind the scenes, so Programmers will start to develop new and exciting apps that take advantage of the new features and APIs.
For me Windows Mobile 5.0 has been very stable even with the very first version that Buzz, Toe and the gang which had very limited memory resources I had no stability problems whatsoever.
There are limitations of course, (like no MMS, mediocre video camera, sms problems, etc) but eventually Microsoft OR our very own developers will take care of that!
So, BE PATIENT!!!!! :wink:

Hi,
Using it for 3 days in my Qtek 2020 and no problem at all.
Even Jabra250 works fine, when in 2003SE was difficult to setup.
About software that don't work, we must wait until new versions come out...
I'm sure when you update you computer from NT to W2K you has software that didn't work and had to buy new versions, so why should be different here?
Be patient.... Mobile5 is ok for now.
AF

if only we can fix the camera it would be Superb

Xeon said:
if only we can fix the camera it would be Superb
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if only we could run it on magician

some0NE said:
Xeon said:
if only we can fix the camera it would be Superb
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if only we could run it on magician
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i double that

Rayan & all the rest are right!!!
I can't agree less to what Rayan wrote.
It's a new OS and a beta for that matter (check out Goras thread on "WM2005 that I can share"), If I'm not mistaken it's not also intended for Himalaya, judging on the memory problems just solved(!) by Buzz, toenailed, XdaJojo, mamaich & all the other contributors as well.
Personally in my opinion its a lot 'solid' than the WM2003 & SE since it has to crash yet on my xda II, as mentioned by Rayan even the initial release of the OS with limited memory was stable.
The problems with the apps like backup & camera are being solved one-by-one, MMS which doesn't even start before is now working (check out the threads on WM2005 in the forum).
Even now, the benefits of using the OS in terms of performance, stability & looks far outweighs its limitations (in my humble opinion) just be patient & leave it to the WIZARDS (Buzz, toenailed, XdaJojo, etc. etc. etc).
Besides, hey ttseng this is the xda-developers forum & we all are having fun testing, tweaking, & breathing new life to our "soon to be outlawed" XDA II ....... if not for the WIZARDS in the forum !!!!! Notice the request for the OS on the other xda models, aren't we lucky we have the WiZARDS working on the HIMA? :lol:
Cheers!

works flawlessly on XDA2 Himalaya!!!!!!!!
best os and most stable one ive come across ,wm200se never really happy but this WM2005 is and has been stable without a single hard reset or rest since install.even self configured the o2email and hotmail!! took the o2 uk config & connections setup file from a XDA2s_1-12-178-WWE_UK_Extended_ Rom.

Is there more than one version of WM2005 kicking about?
I successfully installed WM2005 on my XDA II, but I couldn't get many 3rd party apps to install on it. So I was surprised to see screenshots with certain utilities running ok.
I was wondering if there is more than one version of it floating about on the net. The one I installed was found on these forums, but I have recently downloaded another off usenet.
They are both himalaya.
I am sure a non-beta copy will rear its head on here sooner rather than later (I hope!)
Cam

this version is in the ftp section ,the rom has a file name of
wm2k5_XDA2_HIMALAYA_O2_fullRAM.rar

Yep!
That's the one!

That would make both copies I have the same.
Is this a late BETA or even an RTM version?
Now that the OS has been officially released I am guessing it's a race for someone to post the released version ;-)

the official full version is released?
wow!
so when can we have it for download here?
i am planning to put off my upgrade till the full version comes out.
currently i am on the win2003se which i aint very happy with!
plz advise...
thanx everybody.

It out but you cant get it.
I have a friend who is a manger in Microsoft. I sent the MS link of the offical release and asked if it can be obtained from the internal web software store. At the moment it cant and I feel it will also never be the case (2003 the end user could never buy).
So we are back to the carriers and if they will ship 2005 as an upgrade for ood devices or only on new (MDA XDA IV).
Dont think one needs to be a rocket scintist to answer that, was not one of the devices never shipped with 2003, the way I remember it it was buz that did a Chines to English translation.
So at least w on the BA side have to wait untill something gets leaked.

A little help with WM2005 upgrade please!!!!!!!
I see that most people have upgraded to WM2005 without much trouble, but not me!! I am with o2 and I've just upgraded and I can't us GPRS (it keeps trying to dial 193.113.200.195 and then drops the conx even though the IP is entered in the APN section) I can't run Worldmate pro (not compatable), TOMTOM 3 (need to upgrade to ver 4.4) pick up email etc etc.
Could I have the details that you need to enter into your XDA to connect to o2 network via GPRS so that I can access hotmail, messenger, MMS, Internet etc etc
I hope you can help as I don't want to downgrade to the old windows version.

i can send u a O2 customisation cab file if u need ,however your phone must b on contract with O2UK not payg or orange etc..

Yes Please!!
That'll be great. yes I am with O2 contract.......

where is the awesome rom !!! please
iam running w2005 in my XD2..but still MANY applications cant be installed..and i was surprised to see the screenshot (above) with many applications runing ..BUT i couldnt find the ROM...i found only the one for XDA2s..."XDA2s_1-12-178-WWE_UK_Extended_ Rom" actually is a zipped file with no rom inside..just many cab files ..can anyone help me please...thanks guys

02 Plus

Does anyone have a copy of 02 plus as described in......http://www.seeo2.com/o2connect/template/O2Plus.vm
Look quite good, but I am unable to install it as the site suggests I need to download it through 02 Connect which I don't have on my build.
Anybody?

don't do it :shock:
The O2 plus stuff causes a lot of instability - I removed mine very quickly

Dear norrisr4,
Here is the latest copy of the O2 plus beta. I've used it to replace my pocket alarm and pocket plus. It has some quite niffy features. And above all, its free. weasel, I agree the previous release of O2 plus was buggy, but its stabilised since. You should give it a go again.
Just my 2 cents worth... Cheers ^^

what about an o2 active cab for 2s??

how to get pocket alarm and pocket plus functionality
hey khngaroo,
what functions of phone alarm and pocket plus have u managed to get from o2 plus?
are functions like repeat alers of phone alarm and close button of pocket plus possible with it?

Thanks khngaroo
I copied the o2 plus to my BA and installed the cab. Took absolutely ages to install - like 5 mins !!! I noticed that the settings icon didn't work so I took it off. Also a message saying "02 plus is designed to run on certain models of XDA devices. Please check www.see02.com for more info."Looks like its not compatible with the XDA IIs. Shame really as it has lots of functionality which would have come in useful.
Does anyone know of any better software that does similar tasks?

There is a cab for O2Plus 1.7 cracked to work for all devices here ->
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=116090#116090
I'm using it on my XDAIIs instead of the standard O2Active which was slowing down my my device dramactically. It's all better now![/url]

XDADO,
Thanks, that works perfect

thanks for sharing

O2 Plus ver 1.7
Hi
Can anyone give me the link to download this version. I cant find the file.
Regards
DK

O2 Plus ver 1.7
Where do I download this ver from
regards
DK

Whats the most stable??

Hello all,
With all the awesome chef's in the kitchen it is hard to ask this question... but I will.
I would like to know what the most stable WM6 rom is, In your opinion.
I have used Black 2.0... for 2 weeks (seemed flawless)
Then I tried Tried 2.5 then LVSW, and even Custel's ROM but get random freezes, I grab the phone and its froze, missed how many calls?? I can't have this.
Something I might be doing you say, possible but I have even installed no additional apps, and only sync to exchange. I see others having some various issues with differnet roms. So this prompted me to ask the question I have.
So whats the most stable ROM?

i use black 2.5 with his new memory.cab and works great no problems. what programs are you using b/c it may be related to them. maybe use sktools to delete some unneccesary programs from starting on boot and go from there.

Black 1.2 with a weeks+ of working it to perfection. No need to flash anything else for me until WM7 comes out. lol

Coming back to a froze device sounds like you have the sd card lockups, and not rom related, but if you dont have a card installed, dismiss my post.

I was using Black 2.5, I have a lot of freezes in particular when I activeSync and I do activeSync A LOT, (freeze about every 3rd time I activeSync). A few miss call, and call which I have no audio.
I switch to LVSW 4/23 (FULL version), currently with the same applications installed on Black 2.5, my phone seems to be running well, no freezes yet for half a day already. (ActiveSync more than 10 times already)
I am not saying there is any problem with Black 2.5 rom. A lot of people are very happy with Black 2.5. What I am simply saying is that with the set of applications that I need (a few of them are beta apps), LVSW seems more compatibility than Black.
P.S. Using PhoneAlarm, PocketInformat, CEStar, ISilo, Cyberon Voic Speed Dial, and SplashID

I've had no freezing issues, only app I install is im+

I am running Black 2.5 and I too am having similar ActiveSync problems. And it freezes every third time as well. Strange....
noop said:
I was using Black 2.5, I have a lot of freezes in particular when I activeSync and I do activeSync A LOT, (freeze about every 3rd time I activeSync). A few miss call, and call which I have no audio.
I switch to LVSW 4/23 (FULL version), currently with the same applications installed on Black 2.5, my phone seems to be running well, no freezes yet for half a day already. (ActiveSync more than 10 times already)
I am not saying there is any problem with Black 2.5 rom. A lot of people are very happy with Black 2.5. What I am simply saying is that with the set of applications that I need (a few of them are beta apps), LVSW seems more compatibility than Black.
P.S. Using PhoneAlarm, PocketInformat, CEStar, ISilo, Cyberon Voic Speed Dial, and SplashID
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Previously I was using Black 2.0 and never had one freeze. But since I upgraded to 2.5 I get random freezes like couple times a day, I suspect this could be due to the new OS build? Once I have time I would probably reflash it back to 2.0 cuz it's rock stable for me.

Black 2.5 is working sweet as for me.
Couple of freezes with LVSW and XDA Live, but nothing major, i had freezes with the OEM rom, its just what phones and computers seem to do these days!!
I;ll stay Black, but at the end of the day, use the rom, which you think you will get the best community support, has the best community friendliness and if you ever do have troubles, you shouldnt be troubles trying to fix them!

keep in mind that these ROMs are essentially beta (even if based upon the "final" WM6). they do not undergo the rigorous testing that a carrier would provide.
if you are unwilling to deal with this (and RTFW for answers), then you might be better sticking with the factory shipping WM5 roms...

I like Custel's rom, support is there, and rom is quick n smooth

LVSW 4/23
The full version of LVSW 4/23 is the most stable so far for me. This is the first of the WM6 ROMS I can open and run Netfront, Newsbreak, Pocket IE, Messaging, Camera, Resco Explorer, get a phone call at the same time and still have no freezing. I did a little tweaking to it, but out of the gate it is just fine. All I really needed to install in the Keyboard fix and the Cingular settings.

noop, the reason you freeze alot or crashes alot is becoz of CE-Star..all i know is LVSW does not have the problem, but all other rom does...
Don't use the one from WM5, i remember there is a lite version on this fourm (topic x01ht showing chinese or sth)
Why i know, coz i just install ce-star on black, it will never work..it will crash almost anything...The guy who made the lite has a re-edit version of Ce-star for crossbow, that you have to try your own..since all i need is viewing~

They are all good!
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...but at the end of the day, use the rom, which you think you will get the best community support, has the best community friendliness...
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We are all one big happy community here at XDA Developers!
For me with the earlier round of ROMS LVSW 4/23 worked the best. Zero problems. Haven't finished trying out the latest batch yet so I can't say. The bottom line is that with these ROMS you really do have to try them all and make your decision on which one best meets your needs when coupled with the software that you use.
All of these cooks are turning out some nice ROMs, the problems are more frequently caused by programs that are not yet certified for WM6 and the cooks, of course, have no control over this.

I would also suggest not to use any program to clean your OS, e.g. memory maid as it seems become unstable for all rom after cleaning the system with this kind of software.

Hi all,
Thanks for all your responses. I agree support from this forum family is awesome. I also agree with trying several roms to find the one that best fits my needs (but I don't yet know what they are, I just moved from a treo 650, and prior was a treo 600)
I am on LVSW now, I will try it for a bit and see how it goes. I do like Custels as well... Hmmm decisions, decisions. lol
Well thanks again for your responses and thant you Chefs for all your diligent work. You're the Kings in my book.

Comparison Page???
Would it be posible for the creators of the roms to tell us ALL of the bells and whistles that each of them has on it, and someone could compile a chart or page to compare them all? Obviously, the Voice Dial function is important to me, and I dig the Space Invaders, but there is so much more. I would be glad to do it if I could get the info on each with which to begin. As for Stability; is there a way to do a survey that would allow us to rate them according to the opinion of the users here regarding speed of boot/reset and stability and whatever anyone else can think of?
I recently moved to the Dutty Premier Windows Mobile 6 - Full Edition - Version 1 and So far I am very happy with it. And it appears to have all the tools and toys I want and need . . . so far.
Thanks,

If one doesn't already exist, someone please set up a wiki page for comparisons and we'll sticky it.
V

vijay555 said:
If one doesn't already exist, someone please set up a wiki page for comparisons and we'll sticky it.
V
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This is the best there is at the moment.
Not my work just bringing it to your attn
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_Cooked_ROMs
(bottom of page)

Custel Cingular 1.2
The only WM6 ROM I have upgraded to is Custel's Cingular 1.2. It was a problem free upgrade and I have not experienced a single freeze and the only soft resets I have done were those required to install other applications. Unless someone, including HTC or Cingular, comes out with a version that adds features that I can't live without (and are not added to these cooked ROM's on this forum as CABs), I will be happy to stay with my current version.

New Rom Pda Viet Wm6.1 V3.62.61.18

pda viet wm6.1 rom,v3.62.61.18/CE OS 5.2.19199 Build 19199.1.2.0
vanila version,veeeeeeeery fast and stable.
download link 1:http://www.4shared.com/file/38244597...ified=7ed9855d
download link 2:http://www.mediafire.com/?ct2mnbmzjhl

Cool
Just flashed and errored out at 100%. I hit the reset button and it booted fine. So far it's quick.. will leave for the night and let you know more tomorrow when i've run with it a while.

mimahitna said:
pda viet wm6.1 rom,v3.62.61.18/CE OS 5.2.19199 Build 19199.1.2.0
vanila version,veeeeeeeery fast and stable.
download link 1:http://www.4shared.com/file/38244597...ified=7ed9855d
download link 2:http://www.mediafire.com/?ct2mnbmzjhl
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any more data on this rom??
memory??
screen shots??
thanks
edward

info
Not big storage
Program: 23.93 free
Storage 62.11 free.
Comes with:
Adobe Flash Lite
Adobe reader
Audio manager
Display Switcher
PsShutxp
Voice Speed Dial
Office 07, Missing one note
advance config
Flashlight,
WM5torage
PHM Regeditor
PIM Backup
Synchro Time
HTC Home
standard games
Looks extremely similar to:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=376223
that said I'm going back to the other rom because it's Big Storage

it's A good ROM, not as fast as faria, all is working.

Can anybody post any other download links? The link above are veeeerrrryyyy slow so cannot download

I'm wondering where the newer build came from, or if it's faked like the BA ROM that was released under the same name. I'm not saying this one is, but it has happened before.

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I'm wondering where the newer build came from, or if it's faked like the BA ROM that was released under the same name. I'm not saying this one is, but it has happened before.
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PDAViet's 6.1 ROM for The BA is not faked. I've been using it for a week or two. It's one of the best BA ROMs. For this reason, I might give this one a try.

rambo6 said:
PDAViet's 6.1 ROM for The BA is not faked. I've been using it for a week or two. It's one of the best BA ROMs. For this reason, I might give this one a try.
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Sure, it's not a WM5 or 6 made to look like 6.1. I should explain what I'm referring to.
There is a PDAViet WM 6.0 release for the Blue Angel (I still have my angel) with a faked build number (hex edited to make it look like a later build than it was). Since this build number is later than all the others available, I was wondering if the same thing was done.
If it works, great and dandy. I'm just suspicious of a ROM that's been edited to make it look like it's a later version, and slightly suspicious of any other ROM's from the group or person who did the editing previously. Really, I see no reason to do this, so I have to wonder what the motivation is.

Jdc:
I think you're right. I think PDAViet dummied up some earlier WM5 ROMs to make them appear like WM6 when they were not. He may have also copied some of Helmi's stuff and was criticized on this forum.
However, this guy has earned some credit. His WM6.1 for the BA is nothing short of superb. It's the first version which doesn't wake up all the time to keep the bluetooth working. It's simply the most stable WM6 ROM for the BA. Xplode's is good too. Enough about the BA.
I just flashed this ROM to my wife's Hermes. At first I could not connect to AT&T's network at all. Something in the extended ROM was making it so it wouldn't connect. So what I did was go into settings and used the "Clear Storage" function. As it rebooted, I soft reset it so that the contents of the Extended ROM did not load. After that I was able to get the phone signal and configure my device manually for AT&T.
I've flashed a bunch of ROMs on my wife's Hermes. I've only been messing with it for an hour or so but so far everything works and it's fast. I'll post more as I take it through the paces. I really like the threading Text messages. They take up less space and are easier to follow.

After trying this ROM for a day, I find it very fast and stable. The only fault I find is that there's no MMS. I tried to load Arcsoft 5.0.31.7 but it does not show all the settings necessary to us it.
This ROM even works with TCPMP so that one can view videos on YouTube.

All rom chef's
Hello, seeing this rom and not knowing who "Viet"(no offense) is, makes me feel like cooking mine up and putting a link from rapishare down 'er.
I do have a suggestion - that all ROM chefs make a post, where they put their Cooking resume down all we can check their credibility (if they cooked it themselves). and also to give us (people who like to use their ROM's a feeling of safety, before actually downloading anything.
Just a suggestion.... i hope other's agree with me, considering our hardware.

Somebody pls help!!

Ive had my Touch HD for about 4 months now and its starting to loose its mind. The vibration only works sometimes for a few mins and then it stops, its gone really slow and freezes aswell. I am on the verge of selling it and gettin a Blackberry or the nokia e71. Is there anyone who can change my mind and help me with the problems? It would be greatly appreciated as the first few months i thought it was the best phone i ever had!

did you try to hard reset or flash a new rom ??

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did you try to hard reset or flash a new rom ??
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I have done a hard reset and it didnt help. But I have not flashed the rom. I dont even know how to do it. Do you think that it will help?

Yes it will. Follow this:
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=298613
OmZ said:
I have done a hard reset and it didnt help. But I have not flashed the rom. I dont even know how to do it. Do you think that it will help?
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Yes it will. Follow this:
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=298613
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Will this fix the vibration problem as well because I dont really wanna spend alot of time changing the rom and then I either end up with a bricked device or still have the same issue. Just on the phone to orange now see if they can exchange my handset even though i have had it for 4 months now. wish me luck...

Orange is sending me a new handset tomorrow so hopefully that will fix the problem. They have advised me not to install any 3rd party software for a few days which should not be a big problem. But i was also told that if i experience any other problems on 2 more occasions that I would be able to change my handset for another model which is good customer service
Anyway now that i AM gettin a new touch hd, can anyone of the "senior" members of this forum give me their list of programs installed which have not caused the phone to slow down? I already know of fingerkeyboard, smschat (or smiley sms) and coreplayer. But I still am in need of a good gps software and the upgrade to TF3D v2 or v3 and a gd application to tilt the screen into landscape mode. Any help is much appreciated!

I have been using my HD for a while have not flashed any new ROM's but do have quite a list of 3rd party Windows Mobile software I use on it all working nicely.
Many of my applications are not freeware though, bought over the years as I'm a long time Windows Mobile user.
In my opinion you do not need to flash the ROM to still take advantage of your great HD
My applications include:
Pocket Informant
Resco Utility Pack
Softmaker Office Suite
SPB time
SPB Traveller
SPB Mobile Shell (plus the omnia SPB Skins skinning tool)
SPB Brain Evolution
SPB Finance
SPB Wallet
SPB weather
Pocket Investor
GarminXT GPS
MSS Converter
Phatnotes for MS Outlook
Skype
GSen
LockmeLite
SKTools
Sprite Backup
Finger Keyboard
Google Maps
HD Tweak
PocketMusic
Cheers
Ed

ednap said:
I have been using my HD for a while have not flashed any new ROM's but do have quite a list of 3rd party Windows Mobile software I use on it all working nicely.
Many of my applications are not freeware though, bought over the years as I'm a long time Windows Mobile user.
In my opinion you do not need to flash the ROM to still take advantage of your great HD
My applications include:
Pocket Informant
Resco Utility Pack
Softmaker Office Suite
SPB time
SPB Traveller
SPB Mobile Shell (plus the omnia SPB Skins skinning tool)
SPB Brain Evolution
SPB Finance
SPB Wallet
SPB weather
Pocket Investor
GarminXT GPS
MSS Converter
Phatnotes for MS Outlook
Skype
GSen
LockmeLite
SKTools
Sprite Backup
Finger Keyboard
Google Maps
HD Tweak
PocketMusic
Cheers
Ed
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thanks alot....could you tell which are freeware as this is my first WM device and also how to upgrade to TF3D v3? thank you.

OmZ said:
thanks alot....could you tell which are freeware as this is my first WM device and also how to upgrade to TF3D v3? thank you.
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Why don't you upgrade the stock firmware first to the new 1.56 and new 1.13 radio, supposed to fix a lot of issues and give better battery life / gps signal.

Is that the 1 from the HTC website? cos when i entered my serial number last time it said that the upgrade was not available for me so i assume that i already had the latest version...
EDIT: Dont you just love orange? I have just received my replacement and it is a generic handset. hehehe

Hello omz
To check your rom version start/settings/system/device information with the phone being 4 months old it will more than likely have version 1.14, the latest version 1.56 from htc.com is only available for sim free phones i.e. it was purchased with out a contract. As mentioned else where on this forum, providers like Orange etc will take a few months with there update if they bother at all. If they don’t your other option will be to either flash with a custom rom loads on this site or see if some one will send you there official rom. Software, video convertor http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=474955 this is excellent, screen rotation I like this one http://idevelopstuff.com/dev/WM/Fuze...creen_inst.cab but there is also gyrator, satnav TomTom 7.915 works a treat on these phones. You might also be interested in this app http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=452505 hope this helps Jez