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Upgraded from Nav3 to 5 which is working great except that the PDA will not power off automatically with Nav5 running. Also even if I manually switch the PDA off the battery consumption is very high (runs flat overnight). I'm not using bluetooth or WLAN and they are definately off. I don't have any other app's running.
Anyone else have this problem or suggest a workaround?
If I Stop the Nav5 application then power functions as normal but being forgettful it's hard to remember to do this every time!
Of course Tomtom support have been as useless as ever!!
It maybe dumb to suggest, but....
...do you 'Exit Application' when you've finished using TTN5?
If you don't, it will keep polling the Serial Port for your GPS reciever, and thus the handset won't fully 'stand-by' as serial activity will drain power.
I use TTN5, and as long as I exit, I have still got around 2 days out of a battery, with 'careful' usage.
No offence intended at all in this post - just perhaps highlighting the obvious!
R.
You are correct that exiting (ie Stopping) the application resolves the battery drain but I was using TTN3 previously with a serial receiver and that happily shut down when the PDA was off and did not need stopping.
Also with TTN5 running it stops the PDA switching off automatically, I have to switch off with the power switch.
I have an XDA II and M2000. i have the battery drain problem on both. i exit the app like i am supposed to, but when i start the device in the morning it has completely run flat! in the task manager there is nothing running when i put the device in standby...
any further thoughts?
i am using tomtom v5.21 and the latest roms.
Maybe do a scriptlike "shotdown all" before it goes into it's nightsleep
But i don't see a problem in shutting down TTN5 if you don't use it...
I don't even see a problem in switching off the Radio if i'm not listening etc. No pun intended, but if a programm keeps running it's pretty likely it drains the battery. You're just lucky if it doen't...
Hi Guys. I'm using BT PAN Internet Sharing (on 3G) a lot. However, the power has to stay on in order to maintain a connection, and I'm draining the battery very fast (probably around 1hr of use).
Is this normal? Is there a way I can reduce this?
When I hold the power button I expect the backlight to turn off, but not so on the Hermes. If I go to backlight settings, even the lowest setting is perfectly visible (ie there's still a backlight there).
Is anyone else finding this or am I being a muppet and missing something?
craigiecraigie4 said:
Hi Guys. I'm using BT PAN Internet Sharing (on 3G) a lot. However, the power has to stay on in order to maintain a connection, and I'm draining the battery very fast (probably around 1hr of use).
Is this normal? Is there a way I can reduce this?
When I hold the power button I expect the backlight to turn off, but not so on the Hermes. If I go to backlight settings, even the lowest setting is perfectly visible (ie there's still a backlight there).
Is anyone else finding this or am I being a muppet and missing something?
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what radio version and ROM are you using...
It does have to stay on. I lock my device but expect the device to drain quickly due to the 3g data usage.
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what radio version and ROM are you using...
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I'm on 1.18.00. It's default for South Africa, and I've no idea whether the higher versions will be better in SA, or will prove to be less tightly tuned to our exact frequency (altho GSM operators work in bands around 900 or 1800 etc, in reality each country is more specific than that).
it´s not BT PAN that is draining the power from your TyTn... it´s your 3G connection. I´ve got Chi Tai Dang BatteryStatus TD Plugin installed in my device. Without 3G/HSPDA the power usage is about 90mA (BT: on WIFI: off) ... with data connection active .. it´s over 450mA !!! I don´t know if it is a hardware bug, but the power usage of this device with data tranfer is incredible!!
Probably something to do with the separate 3g chip to the main processor. The newer combined chips will no doubt be better in the future.
heya. i've got 3 questions, hope some1 could help.
i recently upgraded my p3300 to WM6 (official HTC rom) and as i was at it, started to wonder about a few things.
1) in tomtom, when configuring the GPS, i can change the baudspeed (actually at 4800). if i increase that, would a) the GPS navigation while driving be smoother, b) i get a faster satelite fix and most important: c) would the battery last less or same?
2) about the battery... i use very few apps and most of the times i make sure they are 100% closed. i use the calendar, notes and few phonecalls per day. sometimes i turn on tomtom for a few minutes to find a street when walking... but i think the battery life is very short (an average of 1% per hour in standby, more battery loss when using the pda, making calls, etc)
is there any tweaks, programs or whatsoever to see what exactly is consuming XYZ of my battery? and improve it's life?
3) after upgrading to WM6, whenever i start tomtom, i get that logo-splash screen (didnt get that before) is there a way to remove it?
i have many more doubts, but i think i'll leave em for when i solved this things. thx for answer.
zandadoum said:
1) in tomtom, when configuring the GPS, i can change the baudspeed (actually at 4800). if i increase that, would a) the GPS navigation while driving be smoother, b) i get a faster satelite fix and most important: c) would the battery last less or same?
2) about the battery... i use very few apps and most of the times i make sure they are 100% closed. i use the calendar, notes and few phonecalls per day. sometimes i turn on tomtom for a few minutes to find a street when walking... but i think the battery life is very short (an average of 1% per hour in standby, more battery loss when using the pda, making calls, etc)
is there any tweaks, programs or whatsoever to see what exactly is consuming XYZ of my battery? and improve it's life?
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1) I didn't noticed differences neither in fix time nor in navigation smoothness.
2) I doubt that it is possible to measure power used by certain application directly. I had problem with power drain and resolved it by switching applications off and on (S2U was guilty), but it seems to me that my Artemis use more power after upgrade to WM6 to.
any1 got any more comments? which is the best way to track your battery life and improve it? any program around to help on this task?
If you want to compare your device power consumption to my Artemis I'll give you some measurements (not very accurate actually):
When I tested my device while playing 320x240 divx movie with TCPMP, fullscreen, brightness set to max, no audio - battery operated about 5,5 - 6 hours before PDA powered off automatically.
During 8 hours in stand-by (I didn't used PDA at all) it was about 5-8% battery drained, but when I switched Pocket Plus indicators (memory, battery, SD free space) off - after 8 hours of stand-by there was 100% battery (full).
Hope this will help you. If you do your own measures let us know.
Good Sunday
ok, as far as i have seen, there is no application that tells your how much battery each application you run, uses. i guess thats normal.
but, is there something like the windows taskmanager, telling you how much CPU and MEMORY each application that runs in the background uses? i think if there is one, that would give a good start on my investigations.
zandadoum said:
but, is there something like the windows taskmanager, telling you how much CPU and MEMORY each application that runs in the background uses? i think if there is one, that would give a good start on my investigations.
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You could try BatteryStatus
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You could try BatteryStatus
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i'll try it, however i've read somewhere that this program itself is a battery-drainer already?
With BS I had 100% battery after 8 hours standby and I didn't noticed more power consumption while normal use (some phone calls, PIM, games, Internet), but you must try to know how it works on your device. Try it and then write about your findings.
Hi,
baudrate has noting to do with refreshing inverval of GPS. The refresh wrt the satellites is determined in the chipset, and the baudrate is the speed in which the chipset (which is actually an external device) communicates with the serial port of the device. Normally speaking the baudrate for gps is 4800 (it is NMEA norm), but also other rates exist for example for bluetooth devices the baudrate is only the speed with which the serial transfer of data is done. It is in the end the GPS software you use that will determine how fast your position is updated on your screen. It can happen that if you set the baudrate wrong, that the data is not received properly, because the software expects the data to be presented at the baudrate you set, and the device delivers at a different rate (like speeking too fast to somebody). It is therefore important to set it correctly.
zandadoum said:
but, is there something like the windows taskmanager, telling you how much CPU and MEMORY each application that runs in the background uses? i think if there is one, that would give a good start on my investigations.
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You could try TaskManager 2.7 from FdcSoft. It shows CPU load en memory load.
Just add the .exe to the sd card and run the file. Use the tabs to selct Process / CPU or any of the other tabs.
gertaap said:
Hi,
baudrate has noting to do with refreshing inverval of GPS. The refresh wrt the satellites is determined in the chipset, and the baudrate is the speed in which the chipset (which is actually an external device) communicates with the serial port of the device. Normally speaking the baudrate for gps is 4800 (it is NMEA norm), but also other rates exist for example for bluetooth devices the baudrate is only the speed with which the serial transfer of data is done. It is in the end the GPS software you use that will determine how fast your position is updated on your screen. It can happen that if you set the baudrate wrong, that the data is not received properly, because the software expects the data to be presented at the baudrate you set, and the device delivers at a different rate (like speeking too fast to somebody). It is therefore important to set it correctly.
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thanks for the explanation.
going back to batterystatus, i am tetsing it now. specially the overclock tool to actually UNDERclock my phone, hoping the battery lasts longer.
however, as for what i've seen, when the phone goes into suspend, batterystatus sets back to the 201mhz until it is unsuspended. so that's actually useless.
but it tells me enough info to get an idea about my power consumption, etc.
zandadoum said:
however, as for what i've seen, when the phone goes into suspend, batterystatus sets back to the 201mhz until it is unsuspended. so that's actually useless.
but it tells me enough info to get an idea about my power consumption, etc.
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Not exactly useless - if you read e-book or WWW pages your PDA can save power with BS (although I don't know exactly how much).
About underclocking in standby there is explanation from BS Howto:
Could you make the cpu clock down while it is in standby?
There is no need to. Most of the devices are doing this by themself. As soon as you push the power-button (explicitly not a program mapped to a custom button for this job), your device will gradually stop execution of code and clocks the cpu down.
The latter implies that as soon as you push the power-button, BatteryStatus and any overclocking by BatteryStatus stops working.
Some tests showed that your device automatically steps down to 52MHz and maybe there is a state while the cpu is completely stopped (0 MHz) too.
I'm curious what is CPU speed of Artemis in standby. Maybe somebody knows that and will share with us?
Hello everybody,
I own a samsung sgh-i780 with standard rom (win mobile 6.0).
Its a nice phone, but there is one problem which strucks my nerves.
When the battery is low, I am not any more the one who tells my phone what to do, but my phone tells me what i am still allowed to do.
So when my battery is low (below 10%), the following functions are denied by wm6:
- using the camera
- using the phone function (calling someone, etc.)
Using WiFi is still possible. (is it a phone or an internet station? :confused)
I tink I should be allowed to decide for what I want to use my last percentage of the battery.
Is there any trick (e.g. in the registry) where can decide on which battery level the phone and camera will shutdown? I would set it to 0 ;-)
Thanks in advance,
butch
Oh lol thought you wanted to disable it when reading the title.... i would love to turn the 3g off on low battery, probably saves some power
that's not my point.
following situation:
battery is below 10 percent. i start a call. suddenly my mobile stopped the call and disabled the phone function. after i enabled the phone function again it was disabled by the phone some seconds later. but still after minutes i was allowed to use wifi to browse the net, but i was not able to call anyone because my mobile says m battery is to low. what if i need to do an emergency call? should i write an email?
hope my peoblem is clear now.
i wanna be able to set calls until the battery is empty and the phone is shutting down.
regards
butch
hi again,
does noone have any idea?
Does the problem still exists with a 6.1 rom for the sgh-i780?
greetings, butch
MC75A
Hey,
I think i got the same problem.
I am support a project that works with the Motorola (Symbol) MC75A.
Sometimes the PDA disable the phone functions and the end user doesnt have the option to reactivate it.
No im really searching a long time were this behavior came from. And finally lands here now i have to check it.
But is there generally an option to set the Phone function permanently ON and remove the option to disable it?
Device: MC75A (Motorola)
Operating system: WM 6.5
Thanks in front,
Matt
hi guys,
i just checked out my ARTE160 battery. when i checked out the output voltage, i found that its 3.95~4.2 v when full charged. i jus checked this out with a multi meter. the battery is designed for 3.7v only, so does this mean there is a prob???
thx guys
I'm not a pro, but I think this means that everything is alright with the battery. I would rather worry if the voltage was below 3,7 V - that would definitely mean a problem.
well i find wat u say is logical but still im having some small prob in my phone.....
it keeps working well and suddenly the phone service alone wont work and gets hanged (means no calls and sms) after couple of mins mobile just researches the network and joins.
the prob is when this thing happens and someone calls me the call is ringing but i dont get any ring or alert in my mobile.......
also sms is not delivered kater but is lost completely......
i jus looked out somewhere that these probs may be due to battery........
Battery issue reply...........
nataraj_latest said:
hi guys,
i just checked out my ARTE160 battery. when i checked out the output voltage, i found that its 3.95~4.2 v when full charged. i jus checked this out with a multi meter. the battery is designed for 3.7v only, so does this mean there is a prob???
thx guys
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I had to get a new battery and performed a hard-reset on my phone and all was well after that. make sure you have a back-up on your numbers....
well savain
thanks for ur reply.....
did u have the same kind of prob like the over voltage???
savain01 said:
I had to get a new battery and performed a hard-reset on my phone and all was well after that. make sure you have a back-up on your numbers....
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I've just chcecked the output voltage of my battery - when 45% charged - the voltage was 3.82 V.
in my opinion, your problem has nothing to do with the battery. I had same problem that you described - I switched to WM6 from WM5 - it did the trick.
now it hangs very seldom.
I guess that would help you (at least if you're using WM5).
oh but im using 6.1 at present
its TOM'S ROM.....
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*for battery issue;
buy a new battery and
charge <----- device must be off!...
when green led light shows, its done..
this should sort your battery issue..
* for issue with - ''suddenly the phone service alone wont work and gets hanged..''
try a hard reset, if it still happens, open the device - open through the back of the device and simply give it a clean, ensure all connections are connecting, in other words, scratch the pins inside device if they need it.. assemble correctly and hope this helps..
-use cotton buds, the ones you use to clean your ears with..
-use a pin/needle to scratch connections..
*sounds like a hardware issue, not rom issue so cleaning inside the device is recommended..
*I've fixed my p3300 plenty of times now by just simply cleaning inside it.
- including the ''not charging'' and ''no sim'' issue people have experienced..
Not charging
HI Geeks, I have a problem with my blackstone battery. It is getting charged only up to 50 to 55 percent. I kept on charger for one ful night. But no use. I am using official ROM. Can you suggest any solution for that?
Help PLZ
I tired both the charger and the USB cable. Still the problem remains.
A new problem
Now i am facing a new problem. When i switch off the Touch HD, it will not start. When i press the power button, it shows "Smart Mobility" then it will go off. I tried once and pressed the power button again. It lasted some more time, reaching to the HTC logo screen.
Then I Connect the phone using the usb cable to the desktop and press the power button. WOW. it started without any problem. Can you help me to get around this problem?
Roy Varghese
royi386 said:
Now i am facing a new problem. When i switch off the Touch HD, it will not start. When i press the power button, it shows "Smart Mobility" then it will go off. I tried once and pressed the power button again. It lasted some more time, reaching to the HTC logo screen.
Then I Connect the phone using the usb cable to the desktop and press the power button. WOW. it started without any problem. Can you help me to get around this problem?
Roy Varghese
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*for battery issue;
buy a new battery and
charge <----- device must be off!...
when green led light shows, its done..
this should sort your battery issue..
i have a weird kind of battery issue
i plug in my AC adapter
the orange light lights up, for about 5 seconds
then , it keeps flashes orange
i power up my phone for about 5 seconds, it dies
any charge method will keep flashing orange
is my phone battery dead?
Does anyone have my issue ???
I am charging and charging and the indication shows as charging plus the percentage is increasing like normal. However, when I restart the system it shows more than charge percent. Most cases it shows 100%. For instance, show 82 % but after restart device shows 92 or 100%. Please help me experts. Thank a lot in advance for taking your time to reply