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HELLO,GUYS
JUST INSTALL THE TOMTOM NAVIGATOR ON MY DEVICE--XDA lls
GOT A CRACK MAP FILE AND THEN ACTIVED IT.
HOWEVER WHEN I RUN IT,THE ''GPS DISABLED''
I CAN NOT TRACK MY CURRENT LOCATION!
HOW CAN I FIX IT UP?
THANKS
DO I NEED A EXTRA GPS RECEIVER?
I THOUGHT THE XDA lls ALREADY GOT A ONE, ISN'T IT?
Nope, you'll need an external GPS receiver
Maybe you mistook GPRS for GPS ?
and : NO NEED TO SHOUT !
hi,thanks
OK! forget the tomtom
if I just wanna a tool to help me track where I am normal when I am a tourist.
what kind programme will you help me advising?
You have the right program, you are lacking hardware, namely a gps receiver.
cheers.
where I can get a valuable one?
The cheapest place that I found is on ebay www.ebay.co.uk
all right!
whcih brand is ok for me ?
do you think the GPS receiver will be a little big only for handy?
I use a BT Polstar receiver on my MDAIII, works great, no problems. eBay 70squid
ski
Hello,
does anybody know how to programm the GPS Modul?
I tried to change GGA to 1.
Can somebody help me?
Have a look here ...
www.franson.com They sell a module which you can easily program to with visual basic. They demo programs work without a modification. With Visual Studio you can start programming in a hour or so, after having had a look at the samples.
I think meer wants to adjust the SIRF-III-Chipset, which is used in the Orbit.
Most tools "Sirfdemo" etc. wont work on the Orbit. :-(
I'm searching for a tool which can toggle SN (Static Navigation) off on this device.
Hi,
I tried almost everything to program the internal GPS receiver of my P3300, but did not succeed :-(
First, I tried to get direct access to the hardware GPS port (COM 3), but failed to open this by any way. Eventually, I even sent my device into the Boot-Loader mode, redirected the GPS receiver to the USB port by using the GPSRouting command and connected via USB the SirfDemo 3.81 program. Results were very strange:
Using GPSRouting without a parameter gave me binary output data which SirfDemo was not able to handle.
Starting the the receiver at 57600 baud (by using the command "GPSRouting 57600" gave me NMEA output, which SirfDemo was partly able to handle. Some messages appeared correctly in the debug window, but most output of the GPS receiver resulted in SirfDemo in error messages. Really stranges!
I DID NOT FIND ANY WAY TO SWITCH TO SIRF MODE, which is necessary to program the internal sirfIII chipset.
I finally gave up and hope that one day HTC will surprise us with a nice tool to enable/disable Static Navigation and SBAS mode.
GeenZ
Have you tried using COM4 which is where the actual GPS receiver can be found? - Mike
mikealder said:
Have you tried using COM4 which is where the actual GPS receiver can be found? - Mike
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Of course, trying to use COM4 was my first attempt.
However, COM4 is the output port of the MS GPS Intermediate Driver (GID). This is a software com port, which seems to be not the best implementation of a virtual comport splitter. There are a couple of programs out there, which have serious problems with the GID port, but do work with other (better) virtual comport splitter such as GPSGate.
Anyway, trying to program the internal GPS via the GID port did not work at all. That's why I was next trying to get direct access to the hardware GPS port (COM3), which did not work either, before I bravely sent my device into boot loader mode (unfortunately with also no success)...
Any other hints or suggestion are still highly appreciated.
GeenZ
Can i disable Static Navigation on XDA Orbit?
Any news about this?
do we have to give up any hope !? :'(
Please read my thread
Explains it, i could post some code to get you up and running, but what language are u working?
Slovek said:
but what language are u working?
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thanks but just trying right now to understand how to get rid of this infamous GPSID !
Anyone knows how to turn off static navigation now? A programmer gave me a tool which perhaps can turn off static navigation on the p3300. But I'm afraid of testing it.
Minipli said:
Anyone knows how to turn off static navigation now? A programmer gave me a tool which perhaps can turn off static navigation on the p3300. But I'm afraid of testing it.
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are you talking about spGPSView ?!
The name of the tool is SirfTech. What about spGPSview? Can you disable SN with it?
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Can you disable SN with it?
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Yes, Moreover, this prog. seems to be more "accessible" than SirfTech !
Are you serious? You can really disable static navigation on htc p3300 (artemis) with spGPSview? I often read that it wouldn't be possible....
Minipli said:
Are you serious? You can really disable static navigation on htc p3300 (artemis) with spGPSview? I often read that it wouldn't be possible....
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the question should be : is it effective or not ? but it can be changed !
What port do you set?
Ward said:
What port do you set?
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com4 but the gpsid implementation of Orange is different from the HTC one as they are selling the M650 with their own navigation soft...
I have an XDA Orbit, so...
I've had no luck connecting to the GPS hardware with or without the MS Software splitter. Although other applications such as Beeline and iGo work fine.
spGPSview doesn't work with htc p3300/ xda orbit ....
Hello there,
Did anybody find out how to access the internal GPS of the HTC P3300 without using the GPSID (GPS Intermediate Driver)?
Although the internal GPS works fine for me with many programs (TomTom, Pathaway, Fugawi, VisualGPSce, etc.) I did not find a way to program the internal GPS using any of the common GPS tools (such as SirfTech, Aplsirf, CeMonitor, GPSTweak, etc.). In particular I'm very interested in enabling/disabling the SN and the SBAS Mode.
I'm guessing that programming the internal GPS via the GPSID is not possible (or not supported) while it might be possible by accessing the hardware GPS directly. However, I don't know how to do so...
During my investigations I found out the following details:
Based on the MS GPSID Reference the HTC P3300 must have a plug'n'play based internal GPS receiver, as there's no valid registry key found in the corresponding HKLM/System/CurrentControlSet/GPS Intermediate Drivers section.
Looking into the HKLM/Drivers/Active section for a suitable pnp GPS driver I only found COM3 (SerialGPS.dll) which for me seems to be the corresponding hardware driver for the internal GPS. However, accessing COM3 always fails for me with any program.
Does anybody know how to get COM3 (SerialGPS) to work?
Or does anybody know how the GPSID talks to the internal GPS and why I can't do it directly (or how I can do it directly too)?
Any help and discussion is higly appreciated.
Thanks, GeenZ.
Have you tired to delete the gps driver in registry, and after a softreset tried to access direct on com 3 ?
pklein90 said:
Have you tired to delete the gps driver in registry, and after a softreset tried to access direct on com 3 ?
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I already have tried disabling the GPSID. This can be done either by the GPS control panel or directly in the registry by setting the key HLKM/System/CurrentControlSet/GPS Intermediate Driver/IsEnabled to "0".
The effect was that the virtual GPS COM port from the GPSID (COM4) was no longer available, but COM 3 still did not work.
Does deleting and softreseting make a difference to disabling?
How could I "completey delete" the GPSID in the registry?
Thanks, GeenZ
I'm interested in this too since I've found reading from COM4 using CF 2 is really buggy and hangs the device. I wanted to see if talking directly to the GPS instead of the intermediate driver would speed things up a bit.
Hi,
As I reported in this Thread I did not find any solution to get direct access to the GPS port.
GeenZ
indiekiduk said:
talking directly to the GPS instead of the intermediate driver would speed things up a bit.
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it would also probably solve the problem of M650 users stucked with a different firmware version of this internal GPS which doesn't work under wm6
If you would take a look at my following thread
it explains the problem.
Alot of people think they cant connect to the GPS device, but actually it is connection but just nog receiving data the right way.
Slovek said:
If you would take a look at my following thread
it explains the problem.
Alot of people think they cant connect to the GPS device, but actually it is connection but just nog receiving data the right way.
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Thanks Slovek
Should we Thank HTC for this great feature ?!
Already had contact with them, initially they put this up as a 'feature' but about a month ago i received a short list of questions regarding the GPS module. so i hope their going to change this.
Hope so
at least for the "perennity" of this device !
Hi,
please can someone tell me, why the inter gps only works with TomTom
on my XDA ORBIT?
I tried MioMap from a friend, but it tells me: No GPS was found.
Same problem with other software like gpstuner / smirftech and so on.
What can i do?
Is there a trick?
Are there tools to tweak the gps ?
Please give me an tip.
Big THanks
Bye
On my MDAC3 it works fine with both Tom Tom and Memory Map and it also worked with Pocket Earth.
Regards
TomTom is not the only software that works with the internal GPS - I tried several that worked (for example, ESRI ArcPAD 7.01 and MagicMaps2GO 2).
But you are right, GPSTuner doesn't work - it locks up my device while trying to find the GPS. There is a workaround described in the GPSTuner-Forum: You have to install GPSGate (software that works as an intermediary between the GPS and any other software) (http://gpstuner.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1044).
But contrary to what the developers of GPSTuner think (namely, that TomTom locks out every other software from using the internal GPS), I don't think that's right because at least to different applications from different vendors work. There has to be something else...
Ah, big thanks!
Please tell me your config for GPS.
Why you can find the gps intern for MioMap!
I have got the same hardware like you!!
Please
Big big thanks
works ok with igo2006 and papago7 also
the problem is with destinator6 last version 6.1.1.4000
and we waiting for a bugfix from destinator tech.
a trick that can fix this prob is if you put the version with tmc and have always the tmc on,with this the com port stays open
config
com4 baud 115200
tmc on com4 9600
thiw trick was find from user Minotavrs
*sorry for bad english
Please help, i dont understand it???
What can i do for MioMap?
It doesen´t find the gps hardware.
djsven said:
Please help, i dont understand it???
What can i do for MioMap?
It doesen´t find the gps hardware.
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i explain what i do for destinator 6 last version
i do not know miomap
but my config on alla programs is com4 nmea baud 4800
did you try that?
Ah ok!
You set in windows mobil5 gps Port Com4 an Baut 4800!
Ok.
So will try it.
Put no hope.
WOnt work.
Dear All,
I would like to share my experience in this TMC project.
Recently I bought a Chinese GPS 100 unit to connect to my JVC KD AVX40
This has an av out in 320x240 and JVC has an AV in.
You can control the unit via touchpad.
It works correctly to my unit so I decided to get a TMC for this product.
This unit has One USB port which is in Host mode.
So Put a normal USB hub on it and it worked well with Pendrive and External Mouse
Next step, I got a FTDI USB to Rs232 device.
It has FTDI 232BM chip for UART connection it's very important to use chip like this , because of the windows ce driver
I've opened it and I removed chip called SP213EHCA.
In every RS232 there are 2 chips on the board. One is for USB to UART , and the second is for Uart To Rs232.
Because the every TMC receiver uses TTL communication which is working on 3.3v I need to "convert" the unit to USB to UART TTL only.
Obviously you can build a small circuit for this communication, but for myself it was easier to use this solution.
After I removed the Rs232 chip.
Datasheet Page 5 for picture of the pin outs.
You can download it from the FTDI website
The Tmc Receiver pin out is :
Pin definition:
Pin1 Vcc: 5V +- 10%
Pin2 TX: 3.3V TTL level, TMC data output.
Pin3 RX: 3.3V TTL level, receive commands.
Pin4 GND <-- It's not ground It's 5V !!!
Pin5 GND (for mini-USB only)
I soldered a mini USB mother type connector to the chip legs:
PIN2 goes to chip leg 24
PIN3 goes to chip leg 25
PIN5 goes to chip leg 17
So after this I connected the Royaltek TMC unit to my "hacked Rs232" board.
I put the "hacked rs232" to hub and I used a USB mini usb cable for power the tmc unit, so I connect the cable to hub and after that to the tmc.
After this I used this driver for windows ce 5.0
You can download it from the ftdi web site
I have to use mortscript which copy a self made reg file to the registry and copy the ftdi dll to /windows/ folder
Reg:
REGEDIT4
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Drivers\USB\LoadClients\1027_24577]
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Drivers\USB\LoadClients\1027_24577\Default]
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Drivers\USB\LoadClients\1027_24577\Default\Default]
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Drivers\USB\LoadClients\1027_24577\Default\Default\FTDI_DEVICE]
"DLL"="ftdi_ser"
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Drivers\USB\LoadClients\Default\Default\255]
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Drivers\USB\LoadClients\Default\Default\255\FTDI_DEVICE]
"DLL"="ftdi_ser"
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Drivers\USB\ClientDrivers\FTDI_DEVICE]
"Index"=dword:00000001
"InitialIndex"=dword:00000001 <--- This is for which com port to use 1...9
"Dll"="ftdi_ser"
"Prefix"="COM"
"Version"="1.0.2.11"
"ActiveSyncSetting"=dword:0003e880
"LatencyTimer"=dword:00000010
"DeviceArrayIndex"=dword:00000000
This reg file is directly uses COM PORT 1 (It was free in my device )
After this I created a very small circuit which holds the usb power for 20sec
parallely my reg and driver is installing in this time.
When I reached 20sec My Hive based Windows Registry will recognize the FTDI device and there are no pop up meassegas appear ....
IGO recognized the TMC device hardware
The reason I write this how to , because I read so many forums ,and web pages to find a solution for this , but i didn't find anything.
GNS is providing a TMC receiver for CAR PC but with a prolific based USB to UART chip, and the ARM based cpu is not understanding the driver
Ough I forget the tmc receiver what used:
Royaltek RTA-3000
Have a nince day I hope that I could help to someone
guika said:
Dear All,
Snip, snip
Have a nince day I hope that I could help to someone
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I got the same JVC stereo, how can I unlock for multizone DVD? Thank!
If i understand it correctly that you mean, you want to unlock the dvd region limitation.
I didn't unlocked it, but the main problem, that the unlock lock status is came from the dvd FW, which is not possible to reach it, via this unit. I searched for the web, and JVC also, for some FW update. There isn't any. So from my side i say it's not possible in easy way.
I have tested this solution and since half year aho its working fine under -20 to +50 so it is a solution.
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Compatibility
Also tested with FT2232H
This soultion is working , only bug that because of the dual uart the windows device pop up a notification for the second uart driver.
Also working.
Not working with Moxa chip.
Not working with Prolific PL-2303. ( Because the driver for the chip is not going to get open com port in wince 5 :S )
It seems that the only solution is the FTDI chip.
I've made a test with bluepanter and Wayteq and a very old Blaupunkt.
Solution is worked when I changed the usb mode to Host in wince.
It's seems for the blepanter and the wayteq it make not so much sense bacuse you could buy their original accessories.
For the blaupunkt is okay.
Also this could be okay for the 1-2 din chinese gps. Needs to be tested.
Reception improving
I had issue with the tmc reception.
So the solution is make a fm Y cable, and share the outdoor antenna to the head unit and to the tmc receiver.
After the installation, I realised that the reception was not so good, because I miss calculated with the phantom power to my roof antenna, after the phantom power installation everything went fine.
I got reception where I never had it before. TMC news downloading time improved as well.
Take care with the phantom power because it could kill the TMC receiver, use only one way adapter !
hi,
many many thanks for you thread...i had some questions...
i have bought an Dynavin DVN-MC2000 and this unit is without TMC but it have an GPS-In Mother-Usb cable...i think this goes directly to the wince5.0 system.
Where did you buy your RT-3000 and do you have the complete name of the FTDI Modul?!
Maybe we can develop a solution together i could make fotos from my open DVN-MC2000 if it helps
Maybe a ohoto would be great.
I bought the tmc unit in hungary in an avarage shop.
About ftdi i had one in my work desk. But it doesnt matter the meaing is it should any type which is supporting from the wince ftdi driver side. See ftdi web.
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Hello all!!
I've been reading the post and I have to congratulate you, very interesting!
If you do not mind I'll use this thread because I want to ask you a question, I haven´t found any response in any expert forum.
I have a problem with my car radio. It is a chenese radio with GPS and TMC integrated.
From the beginning the TMC worked correctly but It had problems with the GPS. It didn´t work properly (may be the driver was wrong or it was bad installed on the WIN CE5). The provider din´t give me a solution and I found a forum in France. There someone sent me an European WIN CE 5 ROM with the GPS installed a working properly. The problem is that this guy didnt have any ROM with the TMC driver integrated and now I dont have it installed.
My actual state is: WIN CE + GPS HW (installed and working) + TMC HW (not insalled)
My question is:
How could I install the TMC in my radio WIN CE5? The HW exists but my WIN CE 5 does not have the drivers and of course the IGO can not find it.
Thank you very much!
pd: sorry about my english!!!
elmike1980 said:
Hello all!!
I've been reading the post and I have to congratulate you, very interesting!
If you do not mind I'll use this thread because I want to ask you a question, I haven´t found any response in any expert forum.
I have a problem with my car radio. It is a chenese radio with GPS and TMC integrated.
From the beginning the TMC worked correctly but It had problems with the GPS. It didn´t work properly (may be the driver was wrong or it was bad installed on the WIN CE5). The provider din´t give me a solution and I found a forum in France. There someone sent me an European WIN CE 5 ROM with the GPS installed a working properly. The problem is that this guy didnt have any ROM with the TMC driver integrated and now I dont have it installed.
My actual state is: WIN CE + GPS HW (installed and working) + TMC HW (not insalled)
My question is:
How could I install the TMC in my radio WIN CE5? The HW exists but my WIN CE 5 does not have the drivers and of course the IGO can not find it.
Thank you very much!
pd: sorry about my english!!!
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From the first i need to know what kind of tmc chip do you have. Royaltek/GNS and after that we can get closer to the problem. Qhit the upper sokution you can put in the driver if we will figure out the chip manufacturel.
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I am sure that the integrated chip is GNS tipe.
The only thing that can hapen if we install a wrong driver is that it would not work, wouldnt it?
But the other things would work good...
thank you!
elmike1980 said:
I am sure that the integrated chip is GNS tipe.
The only thing that can hapen if we install a wrong driver is that it would not work, wouldnt it?
But the other things would work good...
thank you!
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Generally yes.
But first. You will need to do some test. I will post it later. Because right now in this days i have a lot to do. I wont forget your problem so i will post it here what to check first to start your problem solving....
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thank you very much!
I will wait for your answer.
regards.
please dont forget me!!
bye!
Dony worry i wont
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Hello Guika,
Where did you get your Chinease GPS 100? can you send me the link?
Thanks,
cjean said:
Hello Guika,
Where did you get your Chinease GPS 100? can you send me the link?
Thanks,
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http://www.car-audio.hu/?base=items&filter=cat&type=item&catid=0&cid=141&id=714
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elmike1980 said:
thank you very much!
I will wait for your answer.
regards.
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I found something maybe from your IGO8 folder is missing one file called gpstmc.dll
Check this forum
http://www.mobilepassion.org/viewtopic.php?t=2355
I will check it.
Anyway I think that I need the driver for TMC receiver. I have the HW but it is not installed. Do you know were could I find TMC drivers for Win CE 5? with them the problem would be solved-install and the IGO would take it automatically (I had it installed the first time, but the GPS didnt work).