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HTC W100 Wired Remote Control - cable length?

I consider buying a HTC W100 Wired Remote Control, but I cannot seem to find the length of the cable between the USB and the actual remote.
I was hoping someone here has the remote control, and are able to tell me approximately how long the cable is?

yeah i wouldnt mind knowing as well...
also what is the diff between the E100 and the W100?
and is there a mic on the remote?

Yes there is a mic.
e100 comes with crappy head phones i believe, the w100 i purchased doesn't come with head phones
the cable is.. i don't know the measurements i dont have it on me right now, but i can attach the remote to my collar just under my neck and then put my device in my front pants pocket and still have a bit of length left on the cord.
now, the headphones im using are wrapped up really short because those are so long.

I got it yesterday. Cablelength is about 1 meter.
But... what is disappointing is that it will only work with the built in mediapleyer on my Tytn II. When hitting the 'play' button it always starts mediaplayer (or the derived HTC version)
Does anyone have a solution for this? I want to use it with coreplayer.

Ultimate iPhone Experience

I have had an iPhone for the past year, and couldn't be happier. However, I recently came across an idea that makes a huge difference in how you use your iPhone, and only costs $39.
http://www.pressdigital.com.au/phon...sories/kidigi-apple-iphone-cradle-p-6004.html
Does not seem like a big deal, but I bought one of these docks for my phone, a car adapter, and a stereo cord, and mounted them in my car. Now, I just sit down, set the phone in the dock, and my music starts playing through the speakers. The phone starts charging. So, I spend a lot more time using the phone because its not a hastle to hook it up.

Hello IPhone lover
You might not have realized this but this forum is WM Devices specific. No one here talks about Iphone's unless is is an Iphone skin or app or something for WM Devices.
You need to search for Iphone specific forum - You might find more people interested in this even though there are likley some XDA members who own IPhone's as well.
Take care
Rod

Also - The Iphone Dock is nothing new or special either. It's a shame you only discovered it until now? There are tons of different docking stations for Iphones and WM Devices on the market for almost every device. A simple google will yield results.

Hhhmmm, Hey Hotrod, don't you grow suspicious of this guy that has 1 post, and said post is to expose the high virtues of a "new" product that is sure to rock the world...
I smell spam in the air..

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Hhhmmm, Hey Hotrod, don't you grow suspicious of this guy that has 1 post, and said post is to expose the high virtues of a "new" product that is sure to rock the world...
I smell spam in the air..
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Yes I suppose it does seem suspicious - "Product pusher" "Advertisement", However, he may also just be very young and not realise what kind of forum he was in. I like to keep an open mind about people; however, I will keep my eye on him so see what his other posts are like (if he ever comes back).

My apologies. I didn't think this was a new product, I just hadn't seen anyone else use it this way. My friends that have iPhones use car chargers and fm transmitters to use their iPhone in their car. I started out doing this, but found that most of the time it was too much trouble on a short trip. I saw one guy online that went so far as to make an RTV rubber mold of his iPod and made his own dock in his car (this was when they first came out).
Thanks,
Chris

That's cool man. I never actually thought of using a docking station in the car before. It would be very conveniant as long as it was secure enough. Pop the device in and then remove it when exiting the car. My set up is relatively simple as well. I have one plugin for power to my device - everyting is transmitted to stereo using the devices bluetooth and Motorola t505 to transmit to FM Stereo of car. No clutter of wires this way.

My exhaustive analysis of Android Gaming Controllers.

I love the idea of android devices as a portable gaming console. They now have all the power of last gen consoles at least, the batteries last forever, tons of ports (usb, HDMI, BT), great built in screens and they're super portable. I started out just messing around on my Incredible, later had a GTab (which was a really early device that worked ok but had a bad screen) and now have a Xoom running ICS and have a Galaxy Nexus on the way.
Native android gaming is coming along nicely now to the point where I have about 50 games on my tab. Many of them are free or were daily deals on the Amazon store. Many of them I bought full price. All in all I've probably spent $50 on games. Some of them aren't so great, others are suprisingly good and the situation gets better every day.
I also enjoy a bit of emulation. Before you get all upity the only games I have been playing are ones I actually have the cartridge for. Mostly I have just been playing through Chrono Trigger (which I own so **** you!) along with the Giant Bomb endurance run.
Recently Onlive was also released for android and it is pretty impressive how well games play with even average internet connections. If you haven't tried this out you should. It's free and you can trial all games or up to one hour which is a service with value alone.
All 3 of these gaming experiences can benefit from one thing.
A CONTROLLER!
I have previously used a Wiimote and classic controller with an IME app which works well enough but having the Wiimote hanging off the controller as nothing but a bluetooth dongle is annoying and kinda kills the whole point of having a wireless controller in the first place. Datel apparently made a classic controller with the transmitter and battery built in for a while but I wasn't able to find any for purchase anywhere.
Next a few months back app started to hit the market that let you use the Dualshock 3 with Android devices. This is a pretty good solution. The DS3 is a great controller and the setup is reasonably painless. You just have to connect the controller to a desktop and run an app there to bind the controller to your android device. After that you run an app on the device each time you want to use the controller. You'll also have to configure the controls within some games for the controller layout. Not too bad but if you use the controller for your ps3 as well you'll have to plug it into the PS3 to reset it then connect it to your PC to get t back on the droid device. Now I use the PS3 with BT for my desktop using MotionJoy's software and switching between it and the droid is even more of a hassle which I won't go into because I haven't even figured out a reasonably quick method. Since both devices are using the controller via a weird workaround this isn't really surprising.
So today I went looking again and found 2 new options. A while back Gamestop announced they would be carrying 'Gaming Tablets' and as part of it they were going to be selling a wireless gamepad. Well apparently they have started getting them and I found one in stock on my commute home. First impressions were that the device feels cheap. At the $40 I paid it's already a bit overpriced but that according to the website is a discount from the original price of $99 which would be highway robbery. Though the button layout is essentially the same as a PS3 controller the device doesn't feel anything like a DS3 or a 360 controller. It's much lighter. The plastic is cheap and I'm sure with use, will begin to creek. It just feels like cheap Chinese construction. I'm not sure but I think the device is all digital, in fact I think all they did was essentially wrap a gamepad around a bluetooth keyboard. The triggers are digital for sure but the 2 sticks might be analog though I don't think so. They do feel decent with a good resistance on the springs. The D-pad is less exciting and feel mushy. The other buttons are serviceable, nothing particularly good or bad about them. They are two shoulder buttons on each side with 2 of them shaped like triggers and then the four normal face buttons (labelled 1-4 instead of the square, triangle etc as in the product page image). There are also four other buttons on the face which are the power button, the pair button, escape and enter. The power button is obvious but it should be noted the device powers on and off in a second or 2. The pair button is likewise pretty normal. The escape and enter buttons seem to be like the back button and action respectively in android which is kind of nice. It lets you use the controller as a general purpose remote for your tab. This is particularly nice if you want to use it for media on a TV with HDMI. What this means is that you don't really have a start and select button on the face. The left stick seems to be mapped to standard keyboard arrow keys while the right stick and the D-pad are mapped to letters or numbers. The device has a rechargeable cell which is nice and this is charged from a standard USB port. I'm not sure yet about battery life but it seemed to get a full charge after about half hour.
Considering the lack of other dedicated options for tablets this device isn't all bad. It does what it should. It requires no apps or setup other than pairing up to your device which takes seconds. It also powers on and off in seconds and each reconnection is near instant. Also it should be noted that this should work with any BT enabled android device. I don't think there are any version restrictions.
I have tested it with a snes emulator which it works perfectly with. I also tried GTA3 for Android, in which I was able to run around, grab a car and drive by default. I could probably get it working well enough if I took some time to config the controls in game.
All in all this device is a bit of a tough sell at $40 especially if you have a PS3 controller already and don't mind the relatively minor hassles that entails. If you can find one for $20 or even $30 its would be much more reasonable.
I was thinking the device might be mod-able due to it being so light. I have seen some people get things like the MSI BT controller fit into a snes controller frame. Unlike those devices though this is essentially one large PCB with the button contacts right on it except for the shoulder buttons and analog sticks. This would limit options. Maybe someone will find some good options but that will only increase the cost of course.
Product page:
http://www.gamestop.com/android/accessories/tablet-wireless-bluetooth-controller/97838
The second option I found today is much sexier but a little pricier. It is the Onlive Universal Wireless Controller which I have high hopes for. Everything I have read about it seems to indicate the level of material quality is much higher. Also it requires Honeycomb or ICS which means it isn't just a BT keyboard. Full Onlive support is obvious and again according to my reading it comes with a BT dongle for use with the PC but I'm hoping it will work with my standard dongle for simplicity. The device even comes with a rechargeable pack and a AA cartridge just like the 360 controllers which is a nice feature. When connected to a PC you can use up to 4 of them with one dongle which is nice. Perhaps the tablet will be able to support multiple controllers as well but I haven't read anything about that yet, There are also a number of media buttons on the controller which could prove convenient. I'm hoping this will let me replace both the Gamestop controller for my tab and my DS3 for my PC while being able to switch easily between them.
http://www.onlive.com/controller
Anyway, I ordered one tonight and I'll probably write something up about it next week.

Nice review. I was considering the Gamestop controller but now might wait.
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I'm looking forward to your onlive controller review. at $50.. that's definitely a hard sell, but given the service you pair that with.. negligable.

Subscribing.. thanks for this!
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Don't forget, zeemote is another option for a compact bluetooth controller.

lordgodgeneral said:
Don't forget, zeemote is another option for a compact bluetooth controller.
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I have seen that device. It just seemed like with only directional and one (maybe 2) buttons the device doesn't really support much. I'll have to look into it more. Maybe if I can find one cheap I'll grab it and take a look.
PS My Onlive controller should arrive tomorrow so I'll get something written up on it likely by the end of the week.

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I'm looking forward to your onlive controller review. at $50.. that's definitely a hard sell, but given the service you pair that with.. negligable.
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$50 is a bit steep but for me anyway I'll probably be able to sell off my PS3 controller which I just use for my PC now and use the onlive controller. If I get $40 for the PS3 it turns out to be pretty much a wash. I know that's probably not the case for most but it may help some. Anyway we'll see how good it is soon

Looking forward to the review of the OnLive controller!!
I have a PS3 and 2 controllers but the kids use them (nearly) every day so I really can't use one of those and switch it around all the time.
Also I don't believe the PS3 controller can be paired with 2 different Android devices at the same time. Eh, I don't mean real-time concurrency, I mean I don't think I can have it set up on both my Bionic and Xoom and switch between them without having to set it all up again on the PC. If I'm wrong about that please correct me! If the OnLive controller can do that I'll be sold!

I want one of these
http://www.theverge.com/2012/1/10/2...n-iphone-android-gamepad-controller-announced

beowolfschaefer said:
$50 is a bit steep but for me anyway I'll probably be able to sell off my PS3 controller which I just use for my PC now and use the onlive controller. If I get $40 for the PS3 it turns out to be pretty much a wash. I know that's probably not the case for most but it may help some. Anyway we'll see how good it is soon
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I agree that $50 for just any old regular controller is robbery. LOL. I refuse to buy brand new xbox controllers for that reason. But one controller that can be used on multiple platforms.. meh.. i can mentally justify that.. though I'd rather not ya know? LOL.
in the meantime i discovered an app called "BT Controller" that lets you use one android device to control the other. so I'm going from my GS2 to the Xoom
Ad supported - https://market.android.com/details?...GwsMSwyLDEsImRyb2lkYmVhbi5idGNvbnRyb2xsZXIiXQ..
Paid version ($1) - https://market.android.com/details?...DEwOSwiZHJvaWRiZWFuLmJ0Y29udHJvbGxlcmZ1bGwiXQ..
it's not PERFECT but it works.

Looks like the app uses airpush avoid like the plague.
(Doesn't even mention it supports the xperia play which would be the obvious choice).

beowolfschaefer said:
Anyway we'll see how good it is soon
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Not that I'm trying to rush you or anything..... But did ya get it yet? Did ya?! Did ya?! Did ya?!

I completely forgot about the onlive controller. I got a promotional email a few days ago from onlive where if you pre purchased their new soccer game 39.99 full play pass, they were actually giving away the entire gaming system for free. I just checked offer expired today. That really sucks, I was so.busy last week I only glanced at the offer. Basically for 40$ you'd get the game which came out today and the wireless controller setup along with their consule box to hook up to any TV. Which costs 99.99 alone, I should of jumped at the offer instead of waiting. Let me know how it work, so I can kick myself for now I'll have to pay 50 just for the controller
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Wiimote?
I used a Wiimote with Gensoid today using the Wiimote Controller app from the marketplace, didn't realise it was so easy - worked straight off with only minor hassle of having to switch between Wiimote and Keyboard input manually. Great for those old 3 and 2 button controller games!

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I used a Wiimote with Gensoid today using the Wiimote Controller app from the marketplace, didn't realise it was so easy - worked straight off with only minor hassle of having to switch between Wiimote and Keyboard input manually. Great for those old 3 and 2 button controller games!
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I downloaded it and tried it out based on your post, works great with nesoid! I had a few setup and mapping issues but once I got those sorted everything is working fantastic.

Dual Shock all the way
I am also impressed with the gaming capability of the Xoom and I have been enjoying playing Modern Combat 3. Using a decent controller makes all the difference and my controller of choice is the Dual Shock controller from my PS3.
It is true that it cannot be paired with two devices at once, which is a bit annoying, but it works really well. I cannot I imagine why anyone would pay $50 for a controller that is not as good. Just buy a Dual Shock controller and the SixAxis application and you're all set.

how good is the ir emitter?

im waiting on my s4 mini, and I guess I should have asked this before I bought mine, but previously I bought an lg volt to test out the ir capabilities. it worked, but it kind of sucked as I had to point straight at the device in question. its not a deal breaker, but I was hoping that the s4 mini would be higher quality hardware, and that maybe the ir emitter works better in it? when using an apple remote, or tv remote, I can point almost anywhere, sometimes even the opposite direction, which was nice, as I didn't have to neccesarily point directly at the sensor.
again, not a deal breaker. just curious

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im waiting on my s4 mini, and I guess I should have asked this before I bought mine, but previously I bought an lg volt to test out the ir capabilities. it worked, but it kind of sucked as I had to point straight at the device in question. its not a deal breaker, but I was hoping that the s4 mini would be higher quality hardware, and that maybe the ir emitter works better in it? when using an apple remote, or tv remote, I can point almost anywhere, sometimes even the opposite direction, which was nice, as I didn't have to neccesarily point directly at the sensor.
again, not a deal breaker. just curious
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The IR on the S4 Mini works quite fine in a 90 degree range (45 on both sides) and does work beyond that also. To work in the opposite direction, there has to be a reflective surface and the angle should be right

unvaluablespace said:
im waiting on my s4 mini, and I guess I should have asked this before I bought mine, but previously I bought an lg volt to test out the ir capabilities. it worked, but it kind of sucked as I had to point straight at the device in question. its not a deal breaker, but I was hoping that the s4 mini would be higher quality hardware, and that maybe the ir emitter works better in it? when using an apple remote, or tv remote, I can point almost anywhere, sometimes even the opposite direction, which was nice, as I didn't have to neccesarily point directly at the sensor.
again, not a deal breaker. just curious
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The IR blaster is unfortunately abit weak! I use it all the time for all my electronics at home, so it's of course usable. But you do need to point it pretty much straight on the receiver to get it to work.

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The IR blaster is unfortunately abit weak! I use it all the time for all my electronics at home, so it's of course usable. But you do need to point it pretty much straight on the receiver to get it to work.
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Mine works fine
Which app are you using for the IR ?

gladson1976 said:
Mine works fine
Which app are you using for the IR ?
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Well mine workes fine as well, not just as powerful as I would like. Have tested many apps, there all the same in this regard. It's not the apps in this case, it's the HW. But I use "Smart IR Remote - Anymote" from Color Tiger! The app is a killer, the best!

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Well mine workes fine as well, not just as powerful as I would like. Have tested many apps, there all the same in this regard. It's not the apps in this case, it's the HW. But I use "Smart IR Remote - Anymote" from Color Tiger! The app is a killer, the best!
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both of your replies seem to indicate that its not perfect, but probably better than the lg volt. kind of a bummer, but not a big deal. my guess would be that these ir emitters on devices as small as these just aren't big enough to blast the ir as well as a remote with a bigger window. still, as long as it works reliably when pointing at the screen, very nice.
osvanberg, when I get my s4 mini, im going to give smart ir remote a shot, but have you heard of or tried unified remote? the design is a little bland/flat, but I believe you can customize your own buttons. it also has a wide range of remotes for Bluetooth and wifi, as well as ir. since I don't have a device with ir just yet, I cant confirm, but it looks like you can actually teach unified remote specific button commands via ir. personally, im going to use this to essentially emulate all of my tv remote's buttons, as most ir apps tend to just emulate basic button commands, and sometimes you need the full remote. if unified remote app works for me, then I wont need to pull out my remote for certain situations (enabling 3d mode, for example)

unvaluablespace said:
both of your replies seem to indicate that its not perfect, but probably better than the lg volt. kind of a bummer, but not a big deal. my guess would be that these ir emitters on devices as small as these just aren't big enough to blast the ir as well as a remote with a bigger window. still, as long as it works reliably when pointing at the screen, very nice.
osvanberg, when I get my s4 mini, im going to give smart ir remote a shot, but have you heard of or tried unified remote? the design is a little bland/flat, but I believe you can customize your own buttons. it also has a wide range of remotes for Bluetooth and wifi, as well as ir. since I don't have a device with ir just yet, I cant confirm, but it looks like you can actually teach unified remote specific button commands via ir. personally, im going to use this to essentially emulate all of my tv remote's buttons, as most ir apps tend to just emulate basic button commands, and sometimes you need the full remote. if unified remote app works for me, then I wont need to pull out my remote for certain situations (enabling 3d mode, for example)
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Yeah I think you're correct in your estimation.
No I haven't tried the specific app you mentions. But all I can say is that Smart IR Remote is fantastic! I have 100% functionality of ALL my buttons for my : Samsung TV, LG Dvd, Sony Blu-ray, Mede8er Steamer and my YAMAHA receiver/amplifier.
You can customize each bottom separately if you need - add what you want and delete what you don't need. Change apperence, colors, feedback, etc. You can also easily create your own macro commands and therefore combine many actions (ex. All electronics ON/OFF) in the action for one button.
There's also both IR and WiFi remotes to add. Many hundreds of thousands in total. And if one command is missing? Just inform the dev, in my case they added the (one) missing button on my Mede8er Streamer in just 2 days. So now I have every single button/command available! ?

osvanberg said:
Well mine workes fine as well, not just as powerful as I would like. Have tested many apps, there all the same in this regard. It's not the apps in this case, it's the HW. But I use "Smart IR Remote - Anymote" from Color Tiger! The app is a killer, the best!
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I use the "Galaxy Universal Remote" which works just as well for me

Android head unit: Access CANbus?

Hey,
Just got this android head unit then. Can't post links but its amazon dot co dot uk forward slash "gp/product/B0126T6O1G"
Pretty sick, I noticed in the 'Installed Apps' there is a system app called CANbus. I know the radio connects to the car's CANbus because there is a box behind the head unit as part of the ISO adapter, and it supports the steering wheel keys and stuff.
Wondering if it would be possible to get access to this interface through a custom app to control other things in the car. Eg lights, windows, etc.
I know I should be able to root it, I have read in forums it is possible just not tried it yet - need to check the build number.
It may just be for the steering wheel controls, maybe the box filters out the unneccesary ones or it only supports CAN for the steering wheel controls, but I am kinda interested to see what else could be done.

Did you get anywhere with this? I'd also be interested in the same thing. I'm planning to get a similar headunit.

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Did you get anywhere with this? I'd also be interested in the same thing. I'm planning to get a similar headunit.
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Post a link so we can see what head unit youre talking about.

typos1 said:
Did you get anywhere with this? I'd also be interested in the same thing. I'm planning to get a similar headunit.
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Hi mate,
No I didn't really. I wasn't really sure how to go about it - apparently you can root some of the units (not sure if this one is included) but I didn't want to risk bricking a £280 head unit. And honestly if I were you I wouldn't bother buying the head unit at all either after having it for a while, here's why:
It takes about 30 seconds to boot each time which is a bit annoying if you just wanna get tunes on and drive off
The bluetooth quality is shocking, it sounds like you're on the phone to someone on a ****ty handsfree and drops out when you're playing tunes. Also doesn't support song information or album art over Bluetooth which is stupid.
The radio quality is **** and it forgets the stations if it's been off for a while - auto-seek doesn't really work very well either.
And the worst of all? After having it for about 9 months, I think the amp inside is basically fried. It cuts out randomly when driving or goes really quiet and crackly. I'm probably gonna sell it and just get a normal, non-android aftermarket unit so I can use my sub and all but otherwise it's definitely not worth what I spent on it. It feels like cheap Chinese knock off crap, which I kinda sussed before buying it anyway. But for real if I'd have known I'd have *steered* clear.
I mean yeah it's cool, but not 280 quid cool.
With regards to the CAN bus, the main thing I wanted to do was connect it up to the LED lights I have in the footwells and air vents, so it comes on with the rest of the car's lights. I did have some success with this by splicing one of the cables (I think it was orange?) from the CAN bus decoder box it comes with and connecting to a transistor. I guess you could splice different cables for different things, but it obviously isn't as great a solution as having a proper CAN bus interface. I'd recommend getting an Arduino and a CAN shield instead since this is going to be way more flexible for whatever it is you wanna do.
Hope this helps and let me know if you end up getting anywhere with your CAN hacking!
Brad

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Hi mate,
No I didn't really. I wasn't really sure how to go about it - apparently you can root some of the units (not sure if this one is included) but I didn't want to risk bricking a £280 head unit. And honestly if I were you I wouldn't bother buying the head unit at all either after having it for a while, here's why:
It takes about 30 seconds to boot each time which is a bit annoying if you just wanna get tunes on and drive off
The bluetooth quality is shocking, it sounds like you're on the phone to someone on a ****ty handsfree and drops out when you're playing tunes. Also doesn't support song information or album art over Bluetooth which is stupid.
The radio quality is **** and it forgets the stations if it's been off for a while - auto-seek doesn't really work very well either.
And the worst of all? After having it for about 9 months, I think the amp inside is basically fried. It cuts out randomly when driving or goes really quiet and crackly. I'm probably gonna sell it and just get a normal, non-android aftermarket unit so I can use my sub and all but otherwise it's definitely not worth what I spent on it. It feels like cheap Chinese knock off crap, which I kinda sussed before buying it anyway. But for real if I'd have known I'd have *steered* clear.
I mean yeah it's cool, but not 280 quid cool.
With regards to the CAN bus, the main thing I wanted to do was connect it up to the LED lights I have in the footwells and air vents, so it comes on with the rest of the car's lights. I did have some success with this by splicing one of the cables (I think it was orange?) from the CAN bus decoder box it comes with and connecting to a transistor. I guess you could splice different cables for different things, but it obviously isn't as great a solution as having a proper CAN bus interface. I'd recommend getting an Arduino and a CAN shield instead since this is going to be way more flexible for whatever it is you wanna do.
Hope this helps and let me know if you end up getting anywhere with your CAN hacking!
Brad
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Youve messed up the quote - youve quoted someone else and somehow put my name on it. Also, no one knows what unit youre talking about cos youve not posted pics of your settings/about device screen . . .

typos1 said:
Youve messed up the quote - youve quoted someone else and somehow put my name on it. Also, no one knows what unit youre talking about cos youve not posted pics of your settings/about device screen . . .
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Sorry mate. Don't have my car atm but the unit is this one: https://www.amazon.co.uk/d/Car-Vehi...edia-Vauxhall-Navigation-Subwoofer/B01CU5SUH2

omgitsbrad said:
Sorry mate. Don't have my car atm but the unit is this one: https://www.amazon.co.uk/d/Car-Vehi...edia-Vauxhall-Navigation-Subwoofer/B01CU5SUH2
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Right, thats an MTCB/C unit, thread needs to be moved to the MTCB section.

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Right, thats an MTCB/C unit, thread needs to be moved to the MTCB section.
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Okay sure.. What's that mean?

omgitsbrad said:
Okay sure.. What's that mean?
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Whats what mean ?