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Just bought a car...
Added a little Brodit powered cradle for the Universal + GPS device.
Now I want to have it talk sexily to me through the car speakers... how might I go about doing this?
I've not really seen a car kit for the Jaguar XJ6, but I suppose this would be a good bet?
Thanks!
Ferg.
Hey, I've got a '97 Jag XJ, I had to make my carkit from separate bits. Don't have the Universal but Imate Jam- principle is the same I guess
Check out my post here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=36123&highlight=
Charges my device as well as outputting all sound to car speakers.
Nice one sh,
Mine's a 97 too. Bloody nice beast.
I'll check out your instructions, although am I right in thinking this doesn't have a microphone or anything? I'm new to car kits etc so excuse my ignorance, but does this not hinder the thing a bit?
What does this setup NOT allow you to do?
Thanks again,
Ferg.
Well because I was too tight to buy a full carkit- I made my own (yes I do own the Jag- matter of principle for me!)
Well I've haven't spoken much about the audio side of things in that post... but all I've got is a 3.5mm to RCA cable going into the back of my car stereo.
There is also a 2.5 to 3.5mm adapter to accept the connection on the JAM. Now, you can get these adapters with built-in mics:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/2-5mm-to-3-5m...714269100QQcategoryZ14419QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
I don't need it because I have my personal bluetooth kit when in car. So thats the only thing 'missing' if you like- although I've setup it up so I can change this adapter for any type that has 3.5mm on one end.
Send me a link to the holder that you've got- I take it doesn't have an audio out on it?
i made up my own too for the charmer, dont own a jag and havent wired it into the stereo but have stashed a set of "ipod" type speakers under the dash instead.
not wanting to play audio but just wanting to have handsfree use of phone and amplified audio from sat nav.
not running it through the sterao also means the missus and kids are happy with the radio/cd playing and i still get to hear the satnav guidance.
i bought a couple of incar mics and soldered the whole lot up onto a butchered wired headset (the one that came with the charmer)
details http://www.modaco.com/hardwired-incar-handsfree-the-diy-way-t240297.html
although i still havent got round to putting up pics yet
Any adaptors that will allow me to use proper 3.5 inch headphone jack in place of the mini USB ones ( i dont like the in ear phones) checked ebay and couldnt see anything?
you want get one of these http://www.expansys.com/p.aspx?i=142090 - Mike
Ouch, that thing is both horribly badly designed and prohibitively expensive- it's going to stick out what looks like an inch by itself, most headphone plugs will add another inch on top of that- I need something that fits flush with the bottom of the phone (comes out at a right angle) AND supplies an input for the charger. One can only dream!
The orbit would make a great on-mains Wifi internet radio if such a gubbin existed- hook up some speakers, start TCPMP, sorted!
in which case if you don't like wires stop messing around and get a set of A2DP compatible headphones - the quality is very good, but far more costly than a cable addaptor - the choice is yours - Mike
Might have been worth while if I didn't use an iPod for all my portable audio needs- have you seen any A2DP compatible speakers around?
Looks like there are hacks out there, but no official products, the combination really would just turn the Orbit into an incredibly expensive Wifi radio! But where's the fun in just going out and buying a proper one!
Have a look at the products made by Parrot there are a few Bluetooth audio add on boxes, I fail to see the relevance to WiFi?? as the A2DP profile is Bluetooth - it even works on the T-Mobile MDA-CIII which has no WiFi - Mike
I say wifi radio because I listen to internet radio stations around the house using the Orbit, and the ol' tinternet comes via the wifi doohickey!
A2DP is, of course, a bluetooth profile and would be the method over which I get decent sounding audio from the Orbit to some speakers whilst still having the Orbit plugged into mains so the battery doesn't get sucked dry... that said I think the Orbit will last a good few hours streaming internet radio, although I have yet to put that to the test.
My other solution would be, as mentioned above, an adaptor that allows both the charger AND headset to be plugged in- I can't see this as being technically impossible.
With a brief cursory investigation I have discovered, I think, that the headset uses a proprietary 6-pin connection on the opposite side of the mini-usb connector. The headphones do not use the 4-pin standard mini-usb connector on the other side, but a connector that uses both should be reasonably simple to produce. Ergo it should be childs play for a third party to produce an Artemis dock that contains not only a connection to USB but a standard 3.5mm amplified microphone socket alongside a standard 3.5mm amplified stero audio jack... not to mention a button on the front of the dock for picking up calls and a volume slider if you really wanted them.
Call me crazy, but I want one of those!
You could try this
http://www.expansys.com/htc/p_htc_item.aspx?i=145066
Might do the trick even if it is a bit long
Rich
Dear lord! You've made my day! Hmmm, a little jiggery pokery and I might even be able to incorporate that into a dock but it'll be fantastic for charging and listening to net radio at work- takes that little extra load off my desktop PC.
Cheers!
Glad I could help
richiev4 said:
You could try this
http://www.expansys.com/htc/p_htc_item.aspx?i=145066
Might do the trick even if it is a bit long
Rich
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Hi,
Does anyone know if the above would work with a set of mini stereo speakers with a 3.5mm headphone jack (like the walkman speakers i used to have, back in the day...) to listen to the FM radio while charging the phone from mains? Or would you still need the headphones plugged into get any FM reception?
Daft question maybe, but I wondered whether the device would just use the speaker wires as an antenna instead of the headphone wires?
It will work fine, I am going to use mine to connect my orbit to my home stereo and charge it at the same time.
Rich
2.5mm 3 pole jack plug
Hi,
Anybody know of an Artemis mini usb to 2.5mm 3 pole jack plug adapter which allows the connection to deliver audio and microphone capability ?
I would like to connet my Artemis/Orbit to the Autocom intercom system on my motorcycle . This uses a lead with a 2.5mm jack plug at the phone end and a 3.5mm jack at the Autocom system end. Both are 3 pole.
Thanks
P.S. hope you don't mind me jumping in your postings
http://www.expansys.com/s.aspx
try doing a search for "2.5mm"
A very good Items for the Artemis on EbaY :
look :
http://cgi.ebay.fr/FOR-ORANGE-SPV-E...ryZ14419QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
2.5mm 3 pole jack plug adatper
I think I've found exactly what I'm looking for at:
http://igonemobile.com/products/html/61315310.html
I've got one on order and I'll let you know if it works.
cegmawr said:
Hi,
Anybody know of an Artemis mini usb to 2.5mm 3 pole jack plug adapter which allows the connection to deliver audio and microphone capability ?
I would like to connet my Artemis/Orbit to the Autocom intercom system on my motorcycle . This uses a lead with a 2.5mm jack plug at the phone end and a 3.5mm jack at the Autocom system end. Both are 3 pole.
Thanks
P.S. hope you don't mind me jumping in your postings
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Is this so you can listen to music from the Orbit? I've had difficulty on my bike with this...music cuts out and wont restart after phone call is over. In the end, I bought the Autocom bluetooth dongle and now bluetooth the Orbit to the bike. I get phone calls and GPS just fine, but I use a wired iPod for music.
cegmawr said:
I think I've found exactly what I'm looking for at:
http://igonemobile.com/products/html/61315310.html
I've got one on order and I'll let you know if it works.
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Does this support the Artemis? It isn't in the list....
There was a posting for the mini USB PinOut some Time ago. Look in the wiki Section to find it. Here is what they showed up with.
Maybe This will Help someone to build their own Adapter or whatsoever.
Greetings
Jabami
so what was the general concensus with using Autocom? Did the 2.5mm jack work?
I want to avoid using the bluetooth option on autocom, since I might just as well go for a Scala bluetooth headset instead if the jack doesnt work...
USB adapter. I just love the Elf phone.The only things I am disappointed in is that I cannot plug in a set of external speakers. I cannot plug in to the charger whilst watching a film as I need the socket for the headphones...
Does anyone know of an adapter to enable me to do this please? I could get one made up from the diagram, however I would prefer to buy a custom made one.
Roz
maybe something like this?
http://www.expansys.com/p.aspx?i=127184
The Elf has only a USB socket, nothing else... No phono or whatever they call it... For me this is the only fault with a superb little phone.
Thanks anyway.
dont know about the elf but all other newer htc devices have a special usb connector which also carry audio
if your device came with a headset then yours do too
as they device dont support usb host so it cant use any usb devices
nm just saw my link was wrong :S
http://www.expansys.com/htc/p_htc_item.aspx?i=148544
this was the link i ment to give you
3Way USB adapter for HTC Touch/Elf
There is in fact a 3 way adapter available. I found it after a bit of a search. For some reason some of you seemed to think I was looking for a headset. The USB socket on the HTC Touch does not allow you to use anything else other than the supplied USB headset. however I want to use a set of Sony speakers for the sound to play MP3's and as I like to watch films in bed through ORB I like to be able to charge the phone at the same time. The process uses a lot of battery power.
The adapter I found has a stereo jack socket and 2 USB sockets the same as the one on the phone. So now I can plug in my head set and charger or charger and speakers in any form I choose.
If anyone else is interested here is a link where you can buy one for about £12.00 which includes postage: http://www.elitextreme.com/htcto31ad.html
The pictures show what I was talking about...
Roz
Try here for genuine HTC accessories through Expansys HTC store, then click on your phone type in the left-hand column to list all accessories available for it.
http://www.expansys.com/htc/p_htc.aspx
Oooops! sorry Rudegar I missed your post for it already.
HTC 3 way adapter
No Expansis do not carry one. The link I left earlier does. I have mine now. It is exactly what I wanted. Cost me £12.95. Well worth it.
OK, so this is *almost* what I'm looking for:
http://www.expansys.com/htc/p_htc_item.aspx?i=147569
Does anyone know where to get an 11pin to 3.5mm adapter? One that *only* has a 3.5mm stereo output instead of having stereo+usb output?
Thanks.
http://www.expansys.com/p.aspx?i=151753
Rudegar said:
http://www.expansys.com/p.aspx?i=151753
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Thanks for the find, but will it work even if it's for the TyTN and not specifically for the Touch?
And is it stereo as opposed to just mono?
i would asume that htc dont change the wireing of their miniusb connector flavour with each device it would serve no purpos and would cost alot for htc
i would asume that if stereo is in the miniusb connector when used for normal wired headset it would be using that converter
as it would serve no purpos for the converter to add the eletronics it would require to just take 1 channel and spit it in 2 without lowering the the volume to ½ because of the impedanc
Hi Guys,
I have just got the fantastic little E72 and it is great in almost every way. I want to be able to use my Shure headset with it so I need the adaptor that everyone else wants to find it seems. I have a HTC adaptor but it will not fit into the socket. The socket on my E72 has 5 pin holes and both sides of the interface are curved. The HTC adaptor has one curved side and a straight side so it will not fit in. The E72 does use the usb connection for its headset and audio output but when I did find a Samsung adaptor with both sides curved that did fit into the phone socket it still outputted the music to the external speaker so I am at a loss. There are, therefore, different types of mini usb connectors. Can someone tell me the exact spec of this one fitted to the E72 and possibly where I might get an adaptor that will work??
Much appreciate the help with this.
usb cant be changed to 3.5mm or any type of audio
the reason the htc one dont work is the same reason it dont fit
it have extre connectors which carry analog audio
normal miniusb is a serial digital interface which dont carry analog audio
and usb headsets for pc are really external audiocards which make the serial digital data to analog audio
and that require the ability to usbHost which few pda's support
Many thanks for the explanation. However, my phone came with a stereo headset with mic. I currently use this for listening to music but the quality is not good. Does this not mean then that I should be able to get analogue signal from it??
Please forgive my ignorance; I am learning!!
it all comes down to where you connect your headset
if it's the miniusb port benQ got an extention of miniUSB like htc's extusb
if it's a 2.5mm minijack like older htc devices used you can get a conveter to 3.5mm
The only port on the Benq E72 is the mini USB one. There are no other jacks. The problem is that both sides of the metal housing within this are curved so the HTC one (with one side of the miniUSB adaptor straight) wilkl not fit. I did manage to find and buy an adaptor that was branded Samsung and when I fitted it into the miniUSB socket on the phone it would not work. The music continued to play through the rear speaker even though the adaptor was connected. My supplied headset connects to the phone through the same miniUSB paor but again the metal housing of the miniUSB jack is curved at both sides. I hope this explains better.
as i said then miniUSb should not alow audio at all on the device
and htc use extusb which have more legs then miniusb so if it dont fit
it should not be because of any curves
does your benq device not alow headsets at all ?
if it does how are they connected?
The only connector on the Benq E72 is the miniUSB port. In the attached pic you will see the connector for the wired head set on the left and the miniUSB to standard USB for connection to the PC on the right. I looked inside the silver housing of the connectors on both cables and they seem to have 5 pins along the top (widest) part with the main section being hollow. Now the miniUSB housing on the actual phone does have a plastic inside with 5 pins and , I guess, more connectors along the top of this for the 2 cables. I am to assume that the plastic insert in the phone itsaelf is for the electric charger. There is nothing more that I can give you except to say again that the miniUSB is the only connector on the phone.
if it support headsets connected to the usb connector it must be using some sort
of special usb connector like htc's extusb
i would look at their site if they sell converters
Thanks, as I said the only way to connect the headset is by the miniUSB port so it must support audio. The issue is that the HTC miniUSb headset has a curved side and a straight side so it will not physically fit into the Benq E72 connector. I did get my hands on a philips miniUSB that did fit into the socket on my phone but the music still outputted to the rear speaker of the phone. So, my question is, is there different types of miniUSB wired internals? It would seem so. And would anyone know which would work for the Benq E72 windows mobile poweredsmartphone?
@ 17-apg,
Sorry for this off-topic post. Im planning to buy benq e72 because my o2 xphone2 is too old. Can you please give brief review of the phone, as a user. Is it true that it is laggish? Thank you.
second_east said:
@ 17-apg,
Sorry for this off-topic post. Im planning to buy benq e72 because my o2 xphone2 is too old. Can you please give brief review of the phone, as a user. Is it true that it is laggish? Thank you.
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No problem ,,
I have the device for over 2 months now and like it a lot. Had a HTC S730 before which was thick and cumbersome and I didnt really need the keyboard. This phone, in contrast, is very light and thin. It runs WinMo 6.0 and I do not find it slower than the HTC in any way. On reflection maybe a little faster even. It is very competively priced as it includes bluetooth, quad band radio and wi-fi. The bluetooth also carries the A2DP functionality. The screen, whilst a little small at 2" is very bright and clear. The keypad has large buttons and is very tactile and positive when texting.There's a 2 meg camera included as well as the microSD slot with a max size of 2GB. You can, however, with software, increase this to the norm of 6GB which I have done. Also the rear speaker (built in) is a reasonable size and therefore can play a decent sound for music if you are travelling and in a hotel room for example. And finally, it has little important assets like the ability to turn on auto redial, a button on the left side which when pressed and held will open the text messaging in a send window. There is also the facility to adjust the screen brightness as well as an internet radio and ringtone editor. All in all, for the price, I definitely recommend this phone. I have bought four more since for friends of mine. They paid of course!!! Now all I need is the miniUSB to 3.5mm audio jack sob sob...
Can you tell if a lanyard can be linked to the device - and where? On all available photos on the net I have not seen any holes for fitting the lanyard to :-(
I am really tempted to get that one as well - escpecially as it is the ONLY (!) smartphone with only a normal keyboard that can use microSDHC cards (after installing updated drivers). They seem to double in size every year - and if the standard is fully supported 6 or 8GB (as reported sucesfully) should not be the limit.
Lanyard
Yes, you can connect a lanyard at the top of the phone. If you can see the top view of the device there is a little hole there. You simply slide off the back cover and fit the lanyard to the designated area on the main body of the deivce (very easily) and then slide the back cover on again.
Now we just need a cooked 6.1 rom for the device!!!
Thanks - I found a set of pictures at a Taiwan Review site (http://www.eprice.com.tw/mobile/talk/?prod_id=2621&tid=3430647&page=1&list_page=1) - this tells it as well
I was only looking for a small device that can read memory cards > 4GB and this is the one now. Otherwise my Tornado in the house of a Robbie still perfectly fits my need. I also tried WM6 and WM6.1 on that - but fell back to the original WM5 there.
Just can't wait to get it in my hands - it was really a bargain on ebay. Search for benq E72 there and you will see a guy in London selling refurbished E72 for just 69 GBP (9 of 21 left). I just could not resist for that price, sigh...
BTW - on topic: did anyone try the Motorola mini-USB connectors - for the Razor and alike?
I dont think so. DO you habve one that you coulkd try when you get the phone? If so, let us know here cause I would really like to use my own ear buds.
BTW I think you will love this phone! It really impresses me. And also Expansys anre selling brand new ones for about £90.00!!
Is there a WM6.1 for this? Thanks.
Benq E72
Not thatI am aware of. I know that another avid fan of the E72 has requested ROM cookers to try to come up with the 6.1 version bit I am not sure if anyone has taken up the challenge.
I hope that it will happen soon ...
I have received mine in the meantime, but the refurbished one was delivered with a non-fitting headset :-(
Well, it fits mechanically, but there is no sound at all. It looks like a cheap replica of a Motorola Stereo Headset - but also a normal Motorola does not work in this socket. So I am out of any possibility to measure the data of the socket to build an adapter. I complained at the dealer - hopefully there still is a working headset available!
Otherwise the device is nice - only English language installed though for menus and T9.
bye
tobbbie
With some help from Taiwan - the USB wiring for the headset is identified, see my blog article at http://tobbbie-benq-e72.blogspot.com/2008/12/hacking-usb-headset-connector.html for more details. The main information is:
....So the final result is then for the numbered pins of the USB connector (1-5):
Must be connected with a resistor less than 200 kOhms to ground (pin 5). The voltage will rise briefly to battery level but then drop back to 0,16 V to stay there. I suspect that accepting calls with the headset button will introduce new functionality here...
Speaker channel (l,r not checked, source indicates right here) - must be connected to a speaker or a pulldown resistor at device-headset connection time.
Speaker channel (l,r not checked, source indicates left here)
Microphone channel (checked to work with Audionotes)
Grounds
So luckily no complicated electronics - get your soldering irons ready!
BTW: have still not received the original headset :-(
Hi,
Is it possible to change tracks playing on the device by using the handsfree? It pauses and changes volume, but doesn't change... tried double and triple taps even...
Regards.
Salman Khalid.
my Jabra Halo will usually do it, not if the connection doesn't go through correctly, sometimes I only get play/pause sometimes I get a2dp & play/pause, other times I get a2dp and full remote control.
I blame the headset though since it isn't very consistent even with things like letting you know when it is charged or needs a charge.
I ordered the Jabra Rythm corded handsfree and also the Jawbone Icon bluetooth... hopefully both'll allow this. But what i don't understand is why we can't do it with the out-of-the-box HTC headset/handsfree?
I've got so many AC>Micro or Mini USB adapters and I'm using the USB Cables from my HD2 & Nook, so the accessories are still sitting in the box never touched, other than looking at the AC adapter through the plastic to see if the design was cool, it's not.
HTC's trained my not to expect anything good from the headsets, just cracked the box again to see if the earbuds look any more comfortable than past devices, marginally so, left in the plastic looks like they'd hurt after a while, maybe they sound good.