I heard that Siemens SX66 sold by Cingluar has built-in camera but it is covered by the case. Is that true or not?
Please if you know, advice me. I am willing to open my Siemens SX66 and make small hole for the camera.
Sounds like BS to me. If they got a custom case from HTC that covers that area, you can be damned sure they can get the cameras custom ripped out .
want your answer? load the 1.40 rom and use the camera apps, it locks up the device on my SX66
Sherko
I have internal memos that show there is a secret camera inside the case of the Cingular SX66. It is squeezed in right next to the iraqi weapons of mass destruction!
Joe_PDA said:
Sherko
I have internal memos that show there is a secret camera inside the case of the Cingular SX66. It is squeezed in right next to the iraqi weapons of mass destruction!
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Hahahahahahahahaah =))))))))
Very good one, i really liked this one =)))))))
Hope Bush does not have an aide that surfs, next thing you know we will have a war in asia
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want your answer? load the 1.40 rom and use the camera apps, it locks up the device on my SX66
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wstahlhut,
i upgraded my sx66 to 1.40 and 1.12 radio without touching the ExtRom and 1 problem, my up/down scroll doesnt work. care to help?
Holy cow!!! hes right there is a lens type thingy
lazzy said:
wstahlhut said:
want your answer? load the 1.40 rom and use the camera apps, it locks up the device on my SX66
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wstahlhut,
i upgraded my sx66 to 1.40 and 1.12 radio without touching the ExtRom and 1 problem, my up/down scroll doesnt work. care to help?
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I dumped the 1.40 rom do to oddness like that, went back to the 1.10 radio and the stock CE rom, and my custom Exted...
Hidden camera??!!!
It just would not make good money sense for any of the cell carriers to leave the camera attached to the motherboard and cover them up with a fully covered back shell. I would assumed that maybe the carriers could order their very own Blue Angel hardware from HTC without the some of the bells and whistles for their custom branding, UNLESS.....HTC did make them all of the BA hardware one set way and left it up to the carriers to use all or some of the functions. Some of the U.S.A. cell carriers were already worried about marketing a high dollar device to corperate consumers. In order to scale down the high price, they shaved off the wifi or the bluetooth. But their main concern for leaving out the camera was a matter of the big corperate buyers who work for strict employers with the "No camera" and (camera phone) policy. Which is why I'm glad I got a MDA III from overseas. ..... Who knows? :wink: it was probably cheaper to mold a new different back shell than to pay someone to remove the camera. To all the ones who might have a camera, I hope you get them working Good luck with "hidden surprise inside".
if someone could activate the hardware we sx66 people would have a camera
hidden suprise
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if someone could activate the hardware we sx66 people would have a camera
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On the WIKI there are the camera patches. But you won't know if there is a camera working until the lens is uncovered from the plastic backing.
There is also the possibiltiy of making some registy changes?? Where is MDAIIIuser ?? He would know. :?:
Looks Like I have been forced to make a comment here.
The issue is whether the device has a camera built in and if this is the case how can XDA-Developers get it to work.
First, I personally think that this will be a conceptual discussion for based on my own experience taking the BA apart which is a pain, I don’t think that many or even anybody is going to spend the time drilling a hole in the their BA in order to get a ****ty VGA camera to work. However as I don’t have that problem it is really not fair to make that statement.
So let’s brake this done into a few logical steps where I will try to add what I have learnt over the last 4 months.
1) Hardware
We have yet to see a picture of the back plate of an opened BA with camera and a SX66 without, so visually at least we don’t know what we are talking about.
For the fun of it let us say that there is camera inside.
That its been covered over with a different back casing in order to open up the market of the BA to Business users that don’t want to have (due to security) a phone with a built in camera and/or also don’t want to spend the extra money.
This I feel is a valid point and HTC choice would be to build a different device (different plate without a camera) or just ship the same plate with a camera or even leave certain components out of that plate (the lens) in the manufacturing process.
Here again, thinking positive, let’s say that it’s all there and they just covered it over with a different back case.
So we have the problem of the back casing and the maybe the fact that the camera button is missing on the left side of the device. (this you will have to tell me).
Anyway the solution to this is to obtain a display model of BA with camera, a task that I have tried in vain to achieve over the last 3 weeks as my BA is very badly dented.
Here again, thinking positive, let’s say we can get a display model and swap the casing out.
Thus you have the insides of the SX66 which has the hardware (well we think it does) and the casing that will support a camera.
2) Software
What do we know about rom’s ?
Many months ago there was a SX66 1.3x rom (device with out camera) that was repacked by Manich and put on XDA.
This was a rom dump and the camera application was not in that image.
This rom was loaded be owners of the BA with camera and it worked but did not have the camera application.
(well it was a buggy Rom and in the long run and most went back to the I-mate 1.31 Arabic)
However on Wiki we placed a post install cab that added the needed files for the camera and these worked for that 1.3x Rom that is.
So we know for a fact that it can be done and we have proved it based on the past.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BA_Post
However Today we all taking about the 1.40 Type I Rom’s (I-mate or Qtec) which are built and shipped for the model PH20B (with camera).
I have loaded this rom and I find the camera application (Camera.exe) and many other files with camera in them under \windows
If you have loaded this rom and don’t find the Camera.exe then this must be due to the BaUpgradeUt.exe which checks to see what the Model number is and thus does not load all the files (in this case the Camera and in the case of the Harrier rom the WIFI).
This could also explain the file \Windows\Startup\Camera_Detect.exe which is found on my device (which has a camera) and may not be found on yours.
What we have also been able to work out is by using the MaUpgradeUt_noID we can bypass the Country Code error in the Type II roms, Seen in this thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=117645#117645
Files and instructions :
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BA_FAQ_Upgrade_Errors
However we have not been able to test if we can by pass the device ID check (the one that checks if your device has a camera and thus loads those files).
The new tool that I have been Beta testing gives me the possibility to change the header of the rom to read that it is a non camera version.
However we have no tools that lets us tell the device that it is in fact a PH20B (With camera) and not a PH20B1 (without).
This would be the reverse of getdevciedata and a really interesting tool.
(putdevicedata.exe > devicedata.txt or write the device data out of my devicedata.txt onto my device thus getting the device to think it is a different device vs getting the rom to think it was built for a different device).
So MAYBE, just maybe flashing a non camera BA with the device ID PH20B by using the MA_upgrade will result in the device thinking that it has a camera and wifi and we could then test if this components are around (as in part of the hardware) or not by using them since the software has been loaded (you can find the files in windows).
So How do we move forward from here?
1) I think we need to see the backplate of both devices
2) We need to flash a non camera device with the MA_upgrade as a PH20B and see if we can find the files
3) We need to play with the wifi and the camera of a device (that was PH20B1 but has been told its a PH20B) which has the back plate removed and the 1.40 as a rom on it
Given this we can prove or disprove the theory and who knows you might even find that wifi is around but the camera not.
Warning taking you device apart can revoke the warranty
Warning flashing your device has been know to turn it into a brick, do this at your own risk.
Hope that helps
hidden camera
Thank you MDAIIIuser for your deep insight on our BA's . You really did point out some pros and cons on the camera or no camera issue. I will have to ask around some of my celluar dealer buddies in my area to see if I can score you a dummy BA for you to use for shell parts. You are the BA guru!
shane, Nice of you but won't do me much good, I have a camera (PH20B) and your dummy won't or am I missing something?
So looks like you will have to score the dummy and answer the the question of the "meaning of life" which I always thought was 21 but seems to be "is there a camera or not and if so can XDA get it to work?"
Why don't you just install the .cab with the camera app on a siemens and check if you get a black image?
good idea! where can i get it? ill install it
good idea! where can i get it? ill install it
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Well you could.... oh forget it
I have Installed the camera and it says i have to reset the hardware.
Anyways nothing should be tried until we open the back of the phone. I tried but my tools only opened 2 screws. the others lost its corners from trying to hard.
Thank you all
I really appreciate your interaction and specially XDAiiiuser.
the humor part was healthy too
I will try to open my BA and check if there is a cam or take a pic and find out.
If anyone has discovered that there is a camera in siemens XS66, then, we might be able to use it. I understand it might be difficult..
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HI, I recently got an Imate pda2k however I noticed something I didn't know before I purchased it. I'm confused why is it that the Audiovox 6600 has a camera WITH flash and the Imate doesn't?
I know it's minor but are there any other varients (qtek, mda, xda etc) that have everything, WIFI, bluetooth and CAmera with FLASH or is the Audiovox 6600 the only one with flash?
thank you
They are two different model phones, both originally made by HTC though. I never heard of it having a flash though!
It does I'm 100% sure on the audiovox 6600 from sprint at least. It's not really a flash though to be fair its a little light that acts as a flash
I have the Verizon Wireless version and you're right, I do have a flash on my camera. To tell you the truth though, it doesn't add any real value. To me, it's more of a nuisance, so I leave it off.
I have the Verizon Wireless version and you're right, I do have a flash on my camera. To tell you the truth though, it doesn't add any real value. To me, it's more of a nuisance, so I leave it off.
so it doesn't help in low light situations at all?
I'm just surprised though why would they add a light. I mean I understand how they can take out the wifi and camera in some versions of the imate. But here they added the flash and changed the position of the mirror to above (or below?) the camera (mine the mirror is side by side the camera) and then added the flash.
why would they go through so much trouble of changing the casing if its worthless?
PROBLEM:I have an SX66 which has a broken screen. I dont want to spend a whole lot of money on it. (This is an experiment to see what improvement over my Wizard the BA is)
I also happen to have a Verizon XV6600 which no one seems to want? It seems to be a 0x4. The Siemens may be an Ox6??
I know before taking them apart that there is a Topopoly and a Sony screen and cant figure out when HTC used either or for what reason or if they just depend on which screens they had in stock when they made the units. Before I start taking the Mint CDMA Verizon apart: Does anyone know if the two screens (and presumably digitisers as well) are interchangeable please?
Sorry to ask hardware question on XDA (Where DO you ask these questions?)
They DO interchange although the instructions are only fairly useful: There is a relatively obvious screw which isn't mentioned AND it might have been worthwhile saying whether you CAN or CAN'T simply interchange the whole frontal assembly instead of taking the whole thing apart down to every screw and PCB just to get a new screen in.
hi
i more or less accidentally bought a blue angel (o2 xda III) without a camera a few weeks ago. i simply didnt check if it had one. since i don't necessarily need one it is not a big deal but still it would be nice to have one.
so i thought about buying a broken BA to get the camera and back-part of the case from it and put it in mine.
so the general questen, is that possible at all? is the connector whatever i need for the camera on the mainboard though the device actually was not planed to have one?
did someone already try that? because i did not find anything via the search
do i need any extra software, especially rom (i am using sun_dreams wm6 at the moment)?
and just btw can i also use let's say a vpa3? i am not sure since the front-case looks different but the back seems to be the same...
thx in advance
fleity
Every device as HTC Blue Angel (whether S66, xdaIIs, MDA IIIor pda2k) will carry same hardware...I wonder why the previous onwer tempered the BA for ya
anyway, U need a camera with its connection strip/cable. all u need to do is the lift off the plastic metal covered mount on the camera place. and search for a bare connector on motherboard. you can follow Blue Angel Wiki to dis-assemble ur BA and find the right spot to put the camera in.
and NO, u wont need any specific software/OS update too, coz every cooked rom here comes with every driver needed to make components on BA work.
Happy Hacking. just find a broken BA with a WORKING camera and transplant it to urs
thanks a lot for the answers
i will make some photos and post some links here as soon as i got a cheap broken BA and did "the operation"
help I have me problems with the camera of the elf!
Don't work me anymore! must I replace her it, would someone know me to say where to find her it?
And possible to replace the camera with one who has more pixelses? If him where I find her it?
excused to my English not and my fort…. Thanks to all beforetime!
What is the problem first of all?
And no, you can't put in a higher res camera.
ebay may have a replacement part.
the main problem and that the camera does not work me, and I have tried to inform to me in a center of assistance in my city (Trieste - Italy) and they have answered to me that the camera of reciprocation does not have to us and very difficult to reperire. And so me meeting without camera and this gives much annoyance to me being that drawn my Elf with much cure.
and on ebay they aren't successful to find it and for this I wondered if by chance it were possible to mount a camera of an other compatible model HTC with l Elf.?
Was it the HTC service centre that said the camera is broken? Did they mention if it was the detachable camera board, or something more?
All I can really suggest is backup, hard reset, does it work?
If not, well, then I would suggest maybe opening your device and checking how the camera board is seating into the mainboard. If it is all fine, you may need to find a new one. Either a new phone, or a new camera board from a dead elf.
Hi all,
I repaired my DHD with a new screen / middle chassis. I got it working again with the Jellytime rom, but the camera fails to start.
I subsequently bought a replacement but that didn't work either.
Could anyone give me any pointers as to what I could check for camera operation ?
i.e. I 'think' I put it back the right way round...its it poss to put it back wrongly ot would it foul?
Only just put the jellytime rom on after reassembly. Could the rom be faulty? Would a reflash work?
Its a shame as I don't want to throw any more money at fixing it...nor to I want to trash it.
Basically I want to keep it as a spare or let one of the kids have it .
thx
In my opinion, best way to go would be to install a stable ROM. Preferably the ROM that your camera still worked with. Also you could try 3rd party camera apps or barcode apps for instance, that use the camera function.
Good luck.
((( I've tried several roms not from Jellytime to IcecoldSandwich to the old Gingerbread revolution and nothing works. Also wiped the SD card too in case something from the past was causing a hiccup.
So I'm concluding this is hardware related, just wonder what could it be if I only just put a brand new lense module in.....
EDIT : i've followed this vid from start to end and can't see where I when wrong. The camera bit is after 4.40mins
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JfatoeWbMRk&feature=player_embedded#!
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ebod said:
Hi all,
I repaired my DHD with a new screen / middle chassis. I got it working again with the Jellytime rom, but the camera fails to start.
I subsequently bought a replacement but that didn't work either.
Could anyone give me any pointers as to what I could check for camera operation ?
i.e. I 'think' I put it back the right way round...its it poss to put it back wrongly ot would it foul?
Only just put the jellytime rom on after reassembly. Could the rom be faulty? Would a reflash work?
Its a shame as I don't want to throw any more money at fixing it...nor to I want to trash it.
Basically I want to keep it as a spare or let one of the kids have it .
thx
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I have fixed a lot of inspires and it is possible to put camera in the wrong way...not that you did but its possible-there is a small space/ 'slot' that needs to face away from speaker, it points to where the black wire threads the plastic speaker/camera cover. Another thought if you had main boards apart is they are not fully seated under the mylar now...and lastly maybe that the camera mainboard section is no good....
Nope no luck with anything here. Camera is correctlt seated and the mainboards never got separated..
Everything else worked eg Wifi , GPS , sound and camera flash torch.
Presently have it bits again.
One thought.....at the edge of the battery cover there are two contacts which mate with the top half main board. What should these contacts trigger ?