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Hi all,
Just set my XDA2s up for my gmail acount.
All is fine, I can receive and send mail no problems.
However, if I have a message in my inbox which I have read it gets deleted on the next send/receive.
I cannot find a way to tell it to keep my messages until I delete them manually...
Any ideas?
Rich
I have exactly the same problem.
Anyone knows?
gmail.
Me go try.
Never thought of using gmail on the qtek.
same here... i thought it was only with imate jams...
I don't have that problem here.
I only see option to remove deleted items manually or automatic.
its under storage.
Hi,
That option purely manages what to do with items marked as deleted. Not those in the inbox.
I am glad others see the problem. How do you have things set up?
I set my gmail not to archive or delete the items I download and read. However, I can't help but think that this is a setting with the XDA2s.
R
There's no thing wrong with your XDA IIs or Gmail.
Go into the settings of your gmail account on your XDA IIs. At the "Server information" screen, there is an "Options" button. Go into the Options screen. On the last screen,
* If you choose "Get full copy of messages" your messages will be deleted off of the server once you do a "Send/Receive Mail" This is common for all POP3 servers. Gmail has a special option in the "Mail Settings/Forwarding and POP" for you to "Keep Gmail's copy in the Inbox" even if you do a "Get a full copy of messages" Other POP3 servers don't have this special option so emails will get deleted. To keep it consistent with other POP3 servers in case you have multiple email accounts, just select "Trash Gmail's copy"
* If you choose "Get message headers only" and include 999K (32K is about a screen full of email) you will still see most of the body of your emails once you do a "Send/Receive Mail" but your emails won't be deleted off of the server. Now... if you realize some of the emails are SPAM and you want do delete them off of the server to save yourself from downloading those SPAM mails again to your desktop email software, you can click on the SPAM mail and "Mark for download". Then do a "Send/Receive Mail". Those emails that are marked for download will then be downloaded to your XDA IIs and deleted from the server. On your XDA IIs, you can just delete them once the "Send/Receive Mail" is done.
Hope it helps.
Does anyone kn ow why I keep getting a message "Messages cannot be downloaded to your mobile device. Make sure that you are connected and that your e-mail account settings are correct. Then, try to download messages again". I'm sure that my settings are correct. I can send emails OK - it's just will not down.load them. Any ideas?
Hi Suntingwong,
This does not appear to help unfortunately. The problem is not what happes to the mail at the gmail side but at the ppc side. No matter what I do, once I have read (or downloaded and read) a mail in my XDA2s's inbox it is removed from the XDA2s's inbox at the next send/receive. It is not sent to the deleted folder - just removed. I am after a way to keep it in the inbox as read, as you would logically expect it to be.
Rich
I can confirm the above.
It seems that each time you go over the send and recive you inbox is reset to empty. Thus what you had downloaded (as header or full text), and read just goes into never never land.
I am not sure what the differnese is betwwen the 2 icons at the bottom, both push your mail.
I have been lost on this one for a long time, adding to it I have also been lost on how I can sync my pop.mail with my outlook pst for the sent items and inbox.
Seems like the sysnc only goes Between the default mal box, which meens I CANT configer as pop. So I cant send unless I am attached to the desktop over that mail box.
Its concept that I don't understand and have yet to find a soulution.
http://pumaweb2.pumatech.com/ts-board/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=21;t=000099
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Hi Suntingwong,
This does not appear to help unfortunately. The problem is not what happes to the mail at the gmail side but at the ppc side. No matter what I do, once I have read (or downloaded and read) a mail in my XDA2s's inbox it is removed from the XDA2s's inbox at the next send/receive. It is not sent to the deleted folder - just removed. I am after a way to keep it in the inbox as read, as you would logically expect it to be.
Rich
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Sorry I misread your question. I was thinking you were bothered by emails getting deleted from gmail whenever they got downloaded to your PPC.
I only use my PPC to quickly screen mails so this is not a problem for me. As long as I don't download emails from the server (set just to get header and 999K of body) then my emails won't get deleted from the server nor the PPC until I downloaded them to my desktop email software or when I delete them manually from my PPC.
Now if you want to keep your emails in your PPC no matter what happened to them on the server (got downloaded, etc...) You can mark your emails as "not read" whenever you're done reading them. That will keep them from being removed from your PPC. It's an arduous thing to do but it seems to be the only way...
Hope it helps
There has got to be a better solution than that.
I have the same problem as well, and would really like to see a fix.
You must enter in the settings of your account (upper right corner) and go to "Forwarding and POP". There you have this options:
1. Status: POP is enabled for all mail that has arrived since 1/1/05
Enable POP for all mail (even mail that's already been downloaded)
Enable POP only for mail that arrives from now on
Disable POP
Yoy must select the first option (Enable POP for all mail (even mail that's already been downloaded)), click on "Save changes" and now the messages dont disappear when you read it in your PPC.
Saludos.
I was sad to find out that the IIs only retains 6 email accounts. It seams that this problem isn't only inharent to gmail account. I have configured 3 of my own domain pop3 accounts. When I download the email to my IIs, the emails on my IIs disappear the next time I send/receive.
segoz
Look I feel like a real dumb a**.
I cant work your fix as I cant find that setting. Top right is a drop down for me (From, recived date, subject.)
In accounts I get 1/4 and see nothing on the next 3 pages that does anything for me.
Were should I be as it seems its not in messaging.
This is my observation... wondering if any body sees the same thing.
1. If the message is no longer on the server, upon the next Send/Receive, the message is removed from PPC.
2. If a message is not read on PPC, it will not be removed from PPC no matter if it is still on the server or not
2. There is no universal rules as to when a message is removed from the server when it is accessed via POP3
3. For gmail, this is configurable (Mail Settings>Forwarding and POP>[keep Gmail's copy in the Inbox, archive Gmail's copy, trash Gmai's copy])
4. For adelphia.net, a message is not removed no matter if only header or full body is downloaded. A message is only removed when accessed via desktop email software (if the software is NOT configured to leave a copy of the email on ther server)
5. For netzero.net, a messsage is not removed from the server if only header is downloaded to PPC. A message is removed from the server if full body is downloaded PPC.
So if one wants to keep a copy of gmail's email on the PPC, one has to set up Gmail to "keep Gmail's copy in the Inbox" in the "Forwarding and POP" setting.
One also must configure desktop email to keep a copy on the server. For Outlook 2003, this setting is found on the "Advanced" tab right under the POP3/SMTP port settings.
That's some good observations sumtingwong. I could care less about gmail since all junk go through gmail. I'm more conserned about my domain pop accounts' email disappearing from my PPC. I will leave the messages on all 3 dedicated servers for the next few day to test your observations. stay tuned..
ps. damn this site is crawling. is it getting DDoS'ed?
Site's been crawling for days now........new servers?
Anyway - i can find no way to stop the mails dissapearing on the PPC. So, I have worked round it by creating a 'keep' folder and I simply move the mails I want to that after reading them. Not ideal but it works for now.
R
I left the messages on my mail servers while picking up full email from my PPC mail client. As sumtingwong posted, the mail doesn't disappear from my PPC anymore. I have successfuly sent received mail the past 3 days on 3 different email servers. All email are still on my PPC. I will delete all mail from the servers and see if the emails remain on the PPC.
ps. I pick up mail on both my own email servers and gmail.
I'm starting to get annoyed. Just recently, my Gmail emails are disappearing. But my emails from my own email servers are still on my PPC which doesn't disappear like the Gamil emails. The most anoying thing is, when I delete the emails from my PPC that belongs to my email servers, the same emails are redownloaded again. It's like the PPC email client doen't know the emails have already been downloaded. This doesn't happen to my other phones with email clients.
WTF, are there any other email clients we can use instead of the built in POS Outlook?
I have a PDA2K and am being driven mad by my inbox getting emptied.
I have my home pc outlook express set on leave a copy of messages on server.
When I receive an email on the imate it goes into my inbox - great
When I look at mail on my home pc - it also goes into my inbox - great
When I next do a send & receive on the imate it removes the email I have received on the pc from the imate inbox
Is this normal?
Can I keep my Imate inbox intact and delete only what I want to?
Apols if this has been covered before - I have searched but am going crazy
TIA
Paul
half the problem is sorted
I discovered that I was not leaving a copy of my messages on my email server because I had 2 outlook express accounts going for the same mail and only one was configured to leave a copy on the server
However I would still like to know if it is possible to keep my Imate inbox intact (& under my control) even when the messages are no longer on my pop3 server
Paul
Email being deleted
Is there not a tick box in Pocket Outlook on your iMate that chooses whether email is deleted on PC? In email account settings or something like that.....Don't have my 2i with me so not entirely sure, but think it right. :?
Still perplexed
Hi Shane
I am using the Pop3 mail but even when I tried Outlook I cannot find any option like this
Are there any other users who have an Inbox that does not de-populate
Thanks
Paul
On Server
what email provider do you use? I'm use gmail, and "leave downloaded email on server" option is on email setting. You should log on on your email account and go to setting, search for "leave downloaded email on server", thick on it. :wink:
Thanks
Yes I have set the server to leave a copy - however after around 3 months they will be deleted when my mailbox gets full. I presume they will then be deleted off my I-mate. What I want is a way to permantantly store them in my Inbox unless I manually delete them.
Paul
It sounds like exactly the same issue I have.
I have one PC where I download my emails to - which deletes off server once downloaded. This is fine.
Though on my XDA2i when I go to the POP3 account in messaging I can see all my emails - but when I attempt a send/receive, it deletes all previous emails from the inbox and donwloads any new if there are any.
It is like it is synchronizing the inboxes of what is on server. This should not be the case - I would expect this behaviour if it was setup to be IMAP , but not POP3.
Thanks
I agree nsm - it behaves differently to other Pop3 accounts - I wonder if there is a way to send the inbox to SD storage and protect it that way.
The whole lot went again today when I set up a pop3 a/c on a new pc at work and forgot to leave a copy of messages on server
The only (in-elegant) way round this I have found is to create a new folder on my Imate called inbox copy and manually copy the important messages over as they arrive.
Surely there must be an easier way
Paul
Me too
Hey,
I am facing the exact same problem as u guys... moment I download the entire mail... Even aster I check the leave a copy on the server checkbox. Is there a way to keep the mails?
In messages/inbox on your Blue Angel, tap accounts and then accounts again.
Tap the Storage tab at the bottom of the screen
make sure that delete items is set to manual. Otherwise the emails are deleted automatically when it sees that they are no longer on the server.
Also, try setting the email account to show all messages, and not just from the last x days (in advanced settings for each account)
It's usually these two that cause this.
have you tried...
setting "receive message headers only" on the handheld? This works fine for me...
rhedgehog - thanks - have made sure items are only deleted manually
quote "Also, try setting the email account to show all messages, and not just from the last x days (in advanced settings for each account) "
Is this setting on the pda
Paul
Can someone tell me how receive emails instantly, without using that send & receive command, only gives me the option to send & receive every 5 minutes.
If my computer can receive emails instantly, so should my TP2.
Plz Help
You are looking for push email. Windows Mobile supports push email for Windows Live accounts (ie Hotmail) and Microsoft Exchange Server accounts.
Recently, Google announced Exhange support for Gmail. It's not perfect though. Google is working on the bug that won't let you see attachments.
www.google.com/support/mobile/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=138636
Hi All,
Say, if i do emails on my tp2, i send the email out and forget to bcc me, i forward the email to myself separately. I only get my signature without the full contents. Wondering if this is normal??
Is there any way we can configure the client or alternate programs to like pull emails like from 9am to 6pm instead?
Kinda like Nokia's default email client on e71s, i can choose when and how to download emails. And at the same time have an option to automatically send me a copy of the emails.
Thanks alot in advance or sorry if this is a stupid question..
EDIT: Is this a known thingy? Will wm 6.5 be addressing this issue?
1. When I forward mails, the entire message is included. I can think of 2 reasons why this isn't working for you.
a. You use Windows Live email (ie Hotmail) and you didn't toggle on the setting in Windows Live to include original message when replying/forwarding.
b. You've only set to download the email headers. You need to download the full message from the server before forwarding to include the whole message.
2. You can schedule your email push/pull between specific times of the day only if you use Windows Live or Exchange.
I know many people like to bcc themselves on all emails but you can just check the Sent folder as an alternative. I guess it's just a matter of preference...
My work email is primative pop3/smtp.. I'm using the default messaging on the htc touchflo3d, not the windows live.
Hmm.. i'll try the down entire message thingy..
Hi,
Have tried to use download entire email messages... still the same.. when i forward the email out.. it goes until only my signature.. does not forward the entire message
anymore ideas??
I was wondering that perhaps it may be because you're connecting via POP3. But this doesn't appear to be the case. I just tested setting up my Gmail account via POP3 and I can forward messages just fine.
After you tap on "Forward", you should be taken to a compose screen where you type in your recipients. If you scroll down, do you see the original message in full?
thats the thing... i can see the whole email in full.. theres teh "edit original sender's message" thingy...
but when i actually click send.. it only send out the portion i typed.. -.-
I have sent my phone in for service b4, updated software, hard reset... all the same... maybe i'll try my gmail and update again..
What happens if you tap the part thatt enables you to edit the original message before you send?
same ; ;
10chars
tested with Gmail and yahoo... by configuration, both uses imap on the client..
tested with my other personal email from isp... think i found a pattern..
If i forward from inbox.. everything ok..
If i forward from sent items... only what i type is sent...
i didnt test on imap.. deleted my account.. anyone got any observations??
any help??!?? ; ;
SMSSyncUp is a very simple tool to "upload/backup" your SMSes to Gmail.
To run this app you need to have Gmail account setup in your poutlook.
Steps to use it.
1. Install it
2. Choose your Gmail Account.
3. Open the application, and fill the Send To: with the gmail id to which you want to backup sms.
4. Go to Menu "Login"(it is not an actual login, you need to configure your Gmail account for it).
5. Login should enable the SMS folders dropdown with all your SMS folders.
6. Select the folder to backup.
7. Go to Menu "Sync SMS Folder". This should start the message conversion to mail format. Progress will be displayed.
8. On completion it will prompt and then ask you if you want to sync.
8. Syncing would send Emails with Subject IMAPSMS|<FOLDER NAME> :Sender and the body will contain Message and time, the subject should help you to create proper rules in your gmail account.
Updates in V 0.2Beta
1. Fixed a condition where message syncing could have failed.
2. App will rember the last user name and gmail account used.
3. Will sync only those messages which were not synced.
Updates for v0.3Beta
1. Added scheduler
2. Added limit of messages to be synced up, default is 50(no reason).
3. Modified the message text when it was sent by you.(Sent items)
Update for v0.4Beta
1. Issue fixed which was reported on 9th Feb 2010.
2. Issue from v0.3 fixed, sms folder dropdown list vanishes when scheduler option was clicked twice.
Update for v0.5
1. Option added to create threaded mails. (Conversation from a contact in a single mail).
NOTE: Threaded mode mail wont work properly for Sent SMSes.
Update for v0.6
1. Added option to sync all folders
2. Added option to delete messages older than specified date after sync.
NOTE: Deletion part still under testing, works well but still in case you have some important messages... keep a backup
All these settings also will be applied to scheduled runs.
The messages already synced wont be synced again, incase you want to sync those also plz delete id.txt from installation folder.
Setting up and scheduling
1. Open the app.
2. Menu->Login
3. Select the Gmail account
4. Select the folder you want to sync messages from
5. Menu->Schedule->Set the time (if the time u set up is less than current it will set it up for next day else on the same day)
6. Click Set, if succeeded it will show the scheduled time else will show the error.
7. If you want to de-schedule it click de-schedule.
8. Schedule will run the app at that time upload the text in mail and will try to sync. Sync will be successful only if u are connected to internet, this app won't automatically do it.
9. Default limit of one time sync is 50 if you want to change it, after login select Menu->Message Limit and enter the number of messages u want to upload per sync. This will also be used in Scheduled sync
If you want to sync your old smses which u already have synced, u need to delete the id.txt file from the program folder.
Note. Please configure your Gmail account first...
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I test it on My Acer M900 WM 6.1
AND not work ??
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I test it on My Acer M900 WM 6.1
AND not work ??
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what error you got or what problem u faced??
ok this is screen shot about the error ?
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ok this is screen shot about the error ?
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Thanks, could you please cross check if you have gmail account set up in poutlook and its name is "Gmail"
Hi mark, did this helped??
mohitsapru said:
Thanks, could you please cross check if you have gmail account set up in poutlook and its name is "Gmail"
Hi mark, did this helped??
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No need to configure name of your gmail account, choose it from app.(Updated)
Very useful application!!!
Thank you!
The only cons, is that every time I run it I have to select again my email account and write again my email address.
Any Suggestions
Hi, It would be really nice to hear ur suggestions...
Plz provide feedback
good job could you made the muitilanguage version ? thank you!
Neat Apps! I tried it today and it works great on my HD, thanks for sharing.
Brilliant!!! I've been looking for something like this ever since I found that Sprite Archie doesn't work on my HD2. Thank you so much for your work!!
It would be fantastic if you could include the option to sync automatically whenever a message is sent or received (or once every day).
And it should remember which text messages were already sync'ed before! If it can do all that, I'll gladly pay for it!
Thanks Guys....
Thank u guys for testing it. Surely i will try to implement the features u have asked for Very soon....
V 0.2Beta
Updates in V 0.2Beta
1. Fix a condition where message syncing could have failed.
2. App will rember the last user name and gmail account used.
3. Will sync only those messages which were not synced.(This needs to be tested)
Robrecht said:
Brilliant!!! I've been looking for something like this ever since I found that Sprite Archie doesn't work on my HD2. Thank you so much for your work!!
It would be fantastic if you could include the option to sync automatically whenever a message is sent or received (or once every day).
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I will be very soon working on this option but i think i will go for just scheduled sync, it takes Less coding
Thanks for your efforts! Scheduled sync would be fine, as long as it can sync both sent and received messages.
Attempting to include 'immediate' sync would probably be more trouble than it's worth. Sprite Software's 'Archie' (now discontinued) used to do this but for some reason, it won't work on my HD2. More specifically, it doesn't detect when a new message arrives. Maybe something changed in the messaging application that doesn't allow external programs to be triggered by an incoming sms?
So if you'd just go for scheduled sync, for both sent and received messages, that would be perfect.
I'll try the new version later today and let you know how it works!
Robrecht said:
Thanks for your efforts! Scheduled sync would be fine, as long as it can sync both sent and received messages.
Attempting to include 'immediate' sync would probably be more trouble than it's worth. Sprite Software's 'Archie' (now discontinued) used to do this but for some reason, it won't work on my HD2. More specifically, it doesn't detect when a new message arrives. Maybe something changed in the messaging application that doesn't allow external programs to be triggered by an incoming sms?
So if you'd just go for scheduled sync, for both sent and received messages, that would be perfect.
I'll try the new version later today and let you know how it works!
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Exactly what i thought Robrecht,
syncing on new items may pose problems to some. well do you suggest that i should allow user to choose which folder to sync or automatically sync outbox and inbox?
All of the 3 new options in v0.2Beta, are working perfect!!!