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Hello,
Reading on the web, I could see some talks about:
- Palm Pre support for multiple exchange accounts
- Mutiple exchange accounts support on Android 2.0
- Tricks for getting multiple exchange accounts on iPhone
... in order words, it looks the only devices not supporting it at all are Windows Mobile devices!
Do you have any idea if MS is looking at supporting this in the near future? Is there any trick or third party application which would allow it?
Thanks
should look into using seven should be able to set up mutplie exchange acccounts on that
http://community.seven.com/main.php
Seven does not seem to be an answer for full multiple exchange accounts..
Although seven allows to define multiple exchange accounts the contents of what you sync cannot overlap. So it is possible to use it if you want to sync calendar from one exchange and contacts from another. But it does not allow to sync calendar data from 2 separate accounts.
Seeing how HTC have now screwed up email storage so that once the email is deleted from the original source it is also deleted from the phone, is there a way to save certain emails in another folder?
Or does anyone know if HTC are aware of this problem and are working on it? It started after the Froyo update.
The way you're describing it, it doesn't sound like HTC (or Google) screwed up anything.
If I delete an email from the server, I would expect that same email to be deleted on my phone. This is the very definition of "synchronization". Whatever happens on one device will happen to every other device that synchronizes with it.
If you intend to keep an email, why would you delete it off the server?
Why not create an archive folder to store the emails you want to save and then set up your phone to sync that folder? Or just leave it in your inbox. You can choose to flag it if you want to be able to spot it faster.
Btw, you didn't mention how you're connecting to your email. Exchange, POP, IMAP?
I'm connecting with POP. Now up until the Froyo update I could leave emails on my phone for as long as I wished by setting the Send & Receive settings - Download Options - By Days - All and it made no difference. Since the update it deletes the phone's inbox whenever I delete mail from the server it came from.
I won't go into why I delete from that server - it's to do with having access to mail on three different devices and how they collect it.
There are ways around it but it means having to delete things manually from the server and making sure a few are kept until I don't need them on the phone any longer.
Can I save emails on the phone in another folder that I create?
It doesn't sound like you should be using POP3 at all. POP3 is suitable if you access your email using one client only. Once you access your email server with POP3 from more than one client, it just gets very messy. Each client's inbox contents will be different from one another.
If possible, you should always connect via IMAP4 or Exchange. As a plus, they allow you to synchronize folder structures.
I've always found that POP3 causes a lot of trouble for me. Always end up with mysteriously deleted emails on either server or client.
I understand what you're saying, but if I use IMAP, does that not mean that the emails only stay on the phone as long as they are on the server, leaving me in the same predicament?
At the moment, I have all my email go to a webmail service. From there it fwds to my ISP and from there to my home computer where it remains permanently. Now, at the same time, I have a laptop that gets the mail from the webmail and then deletes it off the server. I also have my phone which gets the mail from the webmail but leaves it undeleted so the laptop can also get at it (once it's on the laptop, I don't care if it's on the phone). BUT, there are some emails that are good to have saved on the phone like flight info, etc for when I travel for work.
Not as confusing as it sounds and this works best for us as my wife and I share the address and we can see all the mail at any time on any device.
From what I understand of IMAP, once it is deleted from the webmail, it also disappears on any computer that is using IMAP. I want to make sure that certain messages are on the hard drive of any device at any time.
If you know better, then I'm all ears!
First, yes, using IMAP will mean that deleting the email off the server will effectively delete it off your phone.
But I still think you should use IMAP but just change your behavior a bit.
- Connect via IMAP with your PC and your phone.
- Create 2 folders under your Inbox. Name it appropriately. (eg "Attn needed" and "Archive"). Remember to setup your email clients on both your PC and phone to sync these folders as well.
- If you have any emails where action is required, then leave it in your Inbox or put it in the "Attn needed" folder.
- If you have any emails where you just want saved, then put it in "Archive" folder.
- Delete emails only when you're absolutely sure you will never need them.
It sounds like you delete your emails because you don't want to use up all your server space. To get around this, just do the following. (I'm assuming you are using MS Outlook but you should be able to do this with other email clients like Mozilla Thunderbird, etc)
- Create a Personal Folder. In Outlook, these are *.pst files. Name it appropriately. (eg. "Old emails")
- Every month or so, just do a quick cleanup by moving all the mails you don't want on the server into the Personal Folder which is saved locally on your PC. (Keep in mind that the moved mails will no longer be available on your phone as well.)
Alternatively, try the following. This is easier and more automated. But depending on your needs, it may not be appropriate for you.
- Connect via IMAP with your PC and your phone.
- Create a new Gmail account.
- On your PC email client, set a rule so that each new email gets forwarded to the Gmail account.
- This way, you can delete mails off your phone, PC, or server as much as you want. A copy will always be available in Gmail. As a bonus, the search feature in Gmail is just great. (If you want to save all outgoing emails as well to Gmail, just bcc yourself on your emails)
- For emails that needs your attention, just flag it. In the HTC Email application, you can filter out all the flagged emails by sliding over to the "Marked" tab.
OK - thanks for all the advice. I will start having a go at those ideas and see how it works out.
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OK - thanks for all the advice. I will start having a go at those ideas and see how it works out.
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Simon,
The fact that the device can't store emails once they come off the server is total bs. In fact, I have the same problem which DID NOT OCCUR when on 2.1. As soon as I put froyo on it started to happen.
THIS IS NOT NORMAL!!! All my blackberries never did this nor did my desire on 2.1. There is something wrong with froyo on certain devices and HTC does not have an answer yet.
Go to your setting in outlook and check off the 'leave emails on server' option for 3,7 or however many days you think you need.
Cheers.
I have contacted HTC and they tell me this is a new 'feature' of Froyo. That I should not delete emails from the webmail if I want the phone to keep them. I replied to them that if I wanted this feature I would use IMAP and not POP3.
I have requested that they reinstate a proper use of POP3 and I would suggest to anyone else to email them on their support page and ask the same. I they realise how many of us are annoyed at this then they may do something about it.
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I have contacted HTC and they tell me this is a new 'feature' of Froyo. That I should not delete emails from the webmail if I want the phone to keep them. I replied to them that if I wanted this feature I would use IMAP and not POP3.
I have requested that they reinstate a proper use of POP3 and I would suggest to anyone else to email them on their support page and ask the same. I they realise how many of us are annoyed at this then they may do something about it.
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Can you believe that these clowns are calling it a 'feature?'...they honestly must we're stupid or something. How can auto-deleting emails be a 'feature'??? Why cant I simply delete them myself like on Gmail? ALso if this is a 'feature' why is it then that some handsets do it while others don't???
I've tried searching the forums for this but with no luck. I'm new to Android and one thing is irritating me about the email application on my new Desire HD.
When I view an email the phone automatically downloads any images that are required, even if they're hosted and not embedded. This means that if I accidentally open a spam email, the phone displays it in full HTML format with the images included. I want to block those images completely (for all emails).
Is that possible with the built-in mail application? I can't find a setting that controls this, and yet it seems like such a fundamental principle on a mobile phone that the user should have control over which images are downloaded. Windows Mobile - for all its faults - did this perfectly.
I don't want to download another mail client yet - the built-in one works fine for me apart from this (and the fact that deleting emails on the phone doesn't delete them on the server - but that's for another thread).
Can I get a bump here? Please?
I'm not sure which email prog you are using.
But if you use Gmail rather than DHD phones email app, you can have all your email accounts go through the one Gmail account, which filters spam mail, and has settings for what type and size of mail you receive.
Plus all your phones emails are backed up on your google/android account.
I'm with SiliconS on this...
All mail clients (malex1 gmail is not a mail client it is a mail service)... all mail clients except androids give you the option of whether or not to download images embedded in the email.
This has a number of benefits, not least of which it prevents spammers from identifying which email addresses they spam to are actually active.
I do not want to use gmail, that is not a viable option.. I just want a good email client.
Does anyone know of one?
Thanks
ok I know when to shut up
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Hey all. I switched over from BB and I love everything about the Incredible except for 1 thing....email. I have my personal email and my work email set up through Gmail (under Accounts & Settings Tab) and I followed the How-To that was put up over at Android Central to use as a push server. Well the problem I have is that when Gmail checks, or fetches whatever it is, it will not grab all the new email that has come in. I travel alot and I rely on my phone to get my messages and unfortunately this one has let me down time after time. I am rooted and I have tried 4 different ROM's, cleared cache in gmail app, along with deleting and readding my accounts. I missed a couple important emails that required a quick reply to get a job but Gmail never got them (online or sent to my phone), it did grab a few messages after that, but missed 5 or 6 again. Any ideas??? If I use the HTC Stock email app I usually set it to check every 15 minutes but that is really hard on my battery. Thanks for any input
Gmail is PUSH there are no options to set check frequency and so forth. Make sure that in Accounts & Sync you have auto-sync and background sync enabled (these are universal features).
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Gmail is PUSH there are no options to set check frequency and so forth. Make sure that in Accounts & Sync you have auto-sync and background sync enabled (these are universal features).
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Both of those are checked. The frequency check I was talking about is in the stock email app, not the Gmail App. I understand that Gmail is Push, but what I don't understand is why it will get some emails and not others. There is no reasoning behind (same domain, etc.), I did apply a filter so that nothing goes to spam but it hasn't helped at all. Thanks for the reply though, any other ideas?
Do you have multiple e-mail addresses going to the same place?
I would disable POP and IMAP features in gmail options (on your PC). If you do that you won't be able to use Outlook or e-mail clients but you will be able to check your mail in a browser and on your phone with push.
If that still doesn't work then try separating your work e-mail. Have your gmail on your phone be strictly gmail, and then have your work email go to a different folder and have that setup with imap, pop, exchange, or whatever your work email has. This is how I do it.
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Do you have multiple e-mail addresses going to the same place?
I would disable POP and IMAP features in gmail options (on your PC). If you do that you won't be able to use Outlook or e-mail clients but you will be able to check your mail in a browser and on your phone with push.
If that still doesn't work then try separating your work e-mail. Have your gmail on your phone be strictly gmail, and then have your work email go to a different folder and have that setup with imap, pop, exchange, or whatever your work email has. This is how I do it.
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I'll give it a try. Thanks for the recommendation!
Guys
I am using an Android phone. I have the stock email program and I have also K9 and Enhanced Email all running at the same time.
I have an Gmail account but don't use it for email or for nothing really dont trust the cloud/google.
My problem is all the email apps work great BUT when I open outlook then they all get removed form my phone. So basically the only emails I am left with are the send ones(in my phone). This happens with my POP and exchange accounts.
My question:
1) is there a Mail App that will make a copy of the email in my phone so when I open outlook they wont get sync and disappear?
2) If number 1 is no then is there a easy way to full your phone to keep the emails.
Thank you
Tungsten c said:
Guys
I am using an Android phone. I have the stock email program and I have also K9 and Enhanced Email all running at the same time.
I have an Gmail account but don't use it for email or for nothing really dont trust the cloud/google.
My problem is all the email apps work great BUT when I open outlook then they all get removed form my phone. So basically the only emails I am left with are the send ones(in my phone). This happens with my POP and exchange accounts.
My question:
1) is there a Mail App that will make a copy of the email in my phone so when I open outlook they wont get sync and disappear?
2) If number 1 is no then is there a easy way to full your phone to keep the emails.
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A properly configured Exchange server usually doesn't allow the local device to retain the message data, it's all accessed real-time from the server. Its possible you have what I call a Half-Ass Exchange, which means you have a central address directory, but the IT department set up Outlook and Exchange to store messages locally on the PC rather than on the server. This would lead to what you are experiencing... Outlook takes all the messages off the server, leaving your phone with nothing to see when it connects. There's not a whole lot you can do about that unless your IT guys will move your email data to the Exchange server. Or maybe they have an IMAP access option. (See below)
With pop3 accounts... You have a similar problem, except there is no way to for two different devices to access the same data. The closest you can get would be to configure both devices to leave messages on the server after downloading them. Any emailed replies then can only be accessed from the device from which you sent them.
If you have the option, switch your pop3 accounts to IMAP. All user data is kept on a server (just like GMail), and any device that is connected to that account automatically syncs with the server, including access to deleted messages and sent messages sent from any other device.
All that being said... The stock email program kinda sucks. I would stick with the 3rd party apps like K9.
This is a new issue to me. I came from a PRE WEBOS and i did not have that problem. I believe the problem is in the way ANDROID OS handles emails. Basically all its changed is the device all else remained constant. I believe but not sure that if i was run all my mail thru gmail this will not be an issue. Its that true?
Thanks
Tungsten c said:
This is a new issue to me. I came from a PRE WEBOS and i did not have that problem. I believe the problem is in the way ANDROID OS handles emails. Basically all its changed is the device all else remained constant. I believe but not sure that if i was run all my mail thru gmail this will not be an issue. Its that true?
Thanks
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I access my pop3 mail just fine using K9 (again, I don't like the stock email program). Downloaded messages remain on my phone after they've been downloaded by my Thunderbird installation on my PC.
My current company doesn't have an Exchange server, so I can't speak to that with direct knowledge... My lat experience with Exchange was about two years ago, so its behavior could certainly have changed! My current company has 10 locations, and they are content to use a 3rd party pop3 solution for email. As an IT man, that annoys me, but then, I don't write the checks!
If you haven't changed any settings in your Outlook, then I would look closer to your settings in the email programs. K9 specifically has a setting that you need to check in order to download the messages to your phone (as opposed to just reading them off the server). I don't remember if it came checked by default...
Check to see if your phone email programs are set to actually download entire messages from the server, or just the message headers. In K9, there is a specific setting under account
Dalmus said:
I access my pop3 mail just fine using K9 (again, I don't like the stock email program). Downloaded messages remain on my phone after they've been downloaded by my Thunderbird installation on my PC.
My current company doesn't have an Exchange server, so I can't speak to that with direct knowledge... My lat experience with Exchange was about two years ago, so its behavior could certainly have changed! My current company has 10 locations, and they are content to use a 3rd party pop3 solution for email. As an IT man, that annoys me, but then, I don't write the checks!
If you haven't changed any settings in your Outlook, then I would look closer to your settings in the email programs. K9 specifically has a setting that you need to check in order to download the messages to your phone (as opposed to just reading them off the server). I don't remember if it came checked by default...
Check to see if your phone email programs are set to actually download entire messages from the server, or just the message headers. In K9, there is a specific setting under account
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I don't see that option on my Enhanced Email program nor in the stock email program and I can not use K-9 because y does not support outlook 2010 exchange yet.
thank you