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I'm really sad and really annoyed seeing another website that they are the first to unlock the Blueangel and the Magician, thus they are offering the service for money!!!
XDA developers, where have been, what were you doing, and what are you doing!!!!!!!?????????!
Probably doing their job of work to pay for rent and food, this is NOT a commercial site, by the way, where were you? what were you doing, why havent you done it?
SO, DON'T READ THIS SITE !
SO, DON'T UNLOCKING & HACKING YOUR DEVICE !
IF YOU DO IT, TAKE YOUR RISK.......BAH !
AND
GO TO HELL "GUEST"
SHOW YOUR FACE, PLEASE !!!!!!!. AND ME TOO.
I'm really sad and really annoyed seeing another "Guest" that does not have the balls to put a name to his words.
Well as I'm reading we can figure out that the Guest is really annoyed.
Xda developers has been the first to develop everything b4 anyone, anyway long lives the developers here and creates beyond our imagination.
I wish to see the unlock for free
Unlock fot XDA 2s
Hi,
I'm really interested in writing this tool but don't know whwere to start, I know a number of programmers who could assist.
Any ideas where I could begin, e.g software utilities who wrote the unlock for the XDA 2.
thx in advance
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makhan said:
Hi,
I'm really interested in writing this tool but don't know whwere to start, I know a number of programmers who could assist.
Any ideas where I could begin, e.g software utilities who wrote the unlock for the XDA 2.
thx in advance
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With all due respect to all programmers in here, "Itsme" could be the right guy to your needs; That's from my point of view.
This guy speaks binary 01010101001
I think what's stopping the programmers here to develop the Blueangel unlock is that they don't own the device yet.
Yes there is such a thing as a free lunch - its how I unlocked mine FREE
HERE YOU ALL GO GUYS AND GALS
I have uploaded all the tools you need to unlock your diamond for FREE
only 3 easy steps to have a security unlocked sim unlocked Diamond
IGNORE THESE IDIOTS TRYING TO MAKE YOU PAY FOR THEIR SOFTWARE - IT IS FREE
http://rapidshare.com/files/411854232/DIAMOND_UNLOCKER.rar
Buy me a Coffee / Pint if this helped unlock your Diamond !
OLD:
you want a free SIM Unlock right? well tough ****, there's no such thing as a free lunch... if you want to get something, you need to give something.
1) contributing forum members... PM me for a free unlock with your IMEI & email. - if you have an account that has a) existed for a good few months and b) you actually contribute to the site (technical wizardy, or general helpfulness - meaning, you actually POST frequently), then just drop me a message and it's yours.
2) everyone else (new accounts/unregistered/few posts, this means you): [size=+2]Get SIM unlocked Here[/size]
for 1), it's not just restricted to XDA-Devs members, MoDaCo also counts, and no, I'm not in ****ing partnership with Paul; if you're a good little MoDaCo member, PM me there.
if you're eligible for a free unlock, you get 1, that's it... this works well for me because it solves the problem of ****ers ripping it off for eBay in bulk whilst at the same time ensuring the good people of the community can optionally donate, and thirdly, I can get something for my efforts too.
Free Security Unlock (not SIM)
for the more advanced users, who are interested in such stuff, soon we will also release a free CID and Security Unlocker (not SIM).
MOD EDIT:
The re-locker has been posted here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3299516&postcount=492
Moderation team request
Please can we keep this thread clean & tidy, stay ON TOPIC and no trolling.
The forum has got alot of attention so lets show the reputation of xda-devs and keep it clean.
and again...DONT rip-off other members IP and palm it off as your own, you will get burnt.
Thankyou.
mrvanx said:
Please can we keep this thread clean & tidy, stay ON TOPIC and no trolling.
The forum has got alot of attention so lets show the reputation of xda-devs and keep it clean.
and again...DONT rip-off other members IP and palm it off as your own, you will get burnt.
Thankyou.
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Good reminder
Very clear for me :
Life is not free and that's not Olipro or Cmonex fault, hard work and talent must be rewarded for sure.
Do a real hard work as Olipro does, in every domain you are good to, don't complain for nothing, you'll be rewarded, simple as this for me.
Thanks Olipro for the cheapest and best Diamond unlocker available !
That's the bottom line.
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I agree with Olipro!
Thank you olipro for you help in this comunity.
I'm waiting for my diamond that comes from france, locked to SFR.
When it arrives, can i send you a PM? I think i'm a good user in this forum
i've bought the unlocker, but i've a little question : is this flasher erasing all the memory of my phone ? and can i update radio rom after unlock ?
thanks !
Icer2008 said:
i've bought the unlocker, but i've a little question : is this flasher erasing all the memory of my phone ? and can i update radio rom after unlock ?
thanks !
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you mean "will it hard reset me" - no, it will not Hard-reset you.
and once you have unlocked, you are free to flash whatever you wish forevermore.
ok ! thanks a lot for your hard work !
great work
you are the man
You certainly are amazing at all this...
My diamond is a SIM free import, but I would like to have the opportunity to unlock my upgraded "UK Orange" Diamond - of thats what I choose in November.
I bookmark this thread until then.
thank you so much!
good work!
Thank you so much for this. Done an amazing job. Wish this thread had appeared 2 days ago, before I paid htccode.com for an unlock code. Hey, no matter, lol. When the security unlocker etc comes available, could you please keep me in mind for this.
I hope that I have been of help to a number of people in this forum and will continue to help if and when I can. Unfortunately I can't do any of the stuff that you guys can. Wish I could but no matter.
Thanks again......
Thanks olipro, for creating a gem of a software
@OliPro
Will CID/Security Unlocking allow (as side effect) for running protected firmware on unporotected phones and wise versa, perhaps? AKA regional protection.
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@OliPro
Will CID/Security Unlocking allow (as side effect) for running protected firmware on unporotected phones and wise versa, perhaps? AKA regional protection.
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CID? no
Security unlocking? possible but untested.
the regional protection is retarded crap anyway, a mere hindrance at best if you want to spend the time "fixing" it out of the OS.
hard work should always deserve rewards. if you cant afford it then stop whinging. im a student, so money is always a issue to me, but thats no reason to use a stolen piece of software which the author has requested on several occasions and sites not to use it. i respect this and have not used this. luckily i dont need to unlock yet as my contract is on orange and i managed to get the phone cheap. its the principle! life is not free!
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... but thats no reason to use a stolen piece of software
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Couple of questions for you if you do not mind me asking:
Are you aware that CID/security/HSPL unlocking is "hack" over copyrighted, proprietary code by ODM and others? There are so many factors that we have to take into consideration... it is all grey area....
swazpurohit said:
... life is not free!...
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Ever heard about Open Source, charity, community support projects, donation?
SecureGSM said:
Couple of questions for you if you do not mind me asking:
Are you aware that CID/security/HSPL unlocking is "hack" over copyrighted, proprietary code by ODM and others? There are so many factors that we have to take into consideration... it is all grey area....
well if you want to go down that road....shall they stop cooking roms too?
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Ever heard about Open Source, charity, community support projects, donation?
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I suppose SecureGSM are the epitome of those mantras.
pot calls the kettle black
Community Engagement on xda developers
Where has the spirit gone of developers, making something better for all.
We like to make our devices better then what "stock" brings us.
But some people seem to forget what we are doing here: Create & Share
Why do people think that the "Open Source" software we are modifying or hacking is theirs to claim or Copyright.
Why are we not sharing and making better what others create...
Has the spirit here really gone?
And do we just want FAME ! !
If I was to create an app and hack Android, HTC or Samsung software by re-writing and adding code to it.
If this took me hours to do, this is still "Open Source" and people can copy my code in to their work.
The devs here are all working in a "Grey" area, and it's really hard not to see your work else where.
Consider it as a compliment if it is that way.
It took Google, HTC & Samsung hours to create what they made, do we care, and not touch it...
I don't think so ! !
HTC encrypts the Sense software because they don't want people to modify it... Do we care?
I don't think so...
So why do people/devs here on xda think that they can claim it for themselves?
Why do other devs get banned, or threads get closed if something similar is published?
We all Kang from Google, HTC & Samsung, but if we use some code from our fellow devs on xda, are we doing something wrong?
I don't get this!
I would really like this to be an open discussion, and try to clear this up for all of us.
My intention is not to start a fight, so please reply in a civilized way.
This also not directed to anybody in person
I hope the XDA staff can put themselves in my/our position, and try to understand it from this point of view.
My thoughts 1 day later @ post 141
DutchDanny said:
After a full day on this thread, I got more response then what I expected.
Thank you all for your participation.
You took the time to read this and give your opinion.
You all made me grow in my opinion, and maybe even change it a bit
What did it bring me:
Sharing now is for me: Collectively Developing (tnx Hacre)
I have no problems in being wrong, and might not have picked the correct words in some parts.
HIS POST
Good explanation on how the staff thinks
Thanks to my friend Russ for his well spoken words
HIS POST - HIS POST
What is reasonable and what not.
Tnx Ben, my fellow team member got me thinking as well
HIS POST - HIS POST
What am I gonna do now
beside building a rom and a kernel....
Gonna dig even more in the smali code (tnx af974)
HIS POST - HIS POST
For me this discussion is finished... Tnx ALL I'm gonna move on...
If the staff thinks the same, lock it for reference.
Cheers
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The ETHOS of XDA-Developers
Back when I was a Senior Moderator, I was asked to put into words what the mythical Ethos of XDA-Developers was. This was then debated by the moderators, Administrators and owners, it was never formally adopted but it was accepted by most as the closest anyone had come to defining what XDA is (was).
Ethos: an English word based on a Greek word and denotes the guiding beliefs or ideals that characterize a community, a nation or an ideology.
XDA-Developers was founded on the simple principal that SHARING IS GOOD and when many people SHARE what they know, EVERYONE benefits. We exist upon this Ethos, we respect each other, we SHARE with each other, we do not judge one another and we HELP all who ask. We believe that while some may have more knowledge than another, none are more important.
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It pains me greatly to see how XDA has degraded over the years to become a playground of egos and pissing contests between little boys who think they own what they stole from someone else.
I have been a strong supporter of XDA for many, many years but, I find my desire to support XDA is waning as the climate of sharing and camaraderie shift toward a climate of ownership and entitlement.
agreed so many phones left behind due to ego and epeen ppl always bailing on phones just because its not popular it takes work to get publicity ...
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it was the same issues on the galaxy s2. people kanging others and people getting annoyed and ending up releasing stuff with the exclusivity and banning others from using it.
android is an open source at the end of the day. if someone wants to kang someone as long as credits are given and links to the originator's thread what is wrong with that? at the end of the day it should be a compliment to the originator that someone wants to kang your work and share it with the masses.
now i can understand if someone passes something over as their own and did not give credits. that is wrong and the culprits should be banned. but as stated above if proper credits are given then i do not see the harm in things.
but again on the flip side though if i was to spend hours and hours on something then the person who asks me for permission they should respect that i do not want to share...it kinda goes both ways really so it is hard to judge...but there are devs and themers included who act like real divas and most of the time now they do things for fame as Danny mentioned.
at the end of the day we are xda and we are here as a community and here to make our phones better and that is why the devs on this awesome site come in...devs should be sharing ideas together..not competing against each other
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agreed so many phones left behind due to ego and epeen ppl always bailing on phones just because its not popular it takes work to get publicity ...
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Not sure we are talking about the same thing here my friend, its a much more important subject, sharing, the main reason XDA exists (or so I thought)
btw, thanked u when i was trying to quote ya, oh well, Ill share some love
There is really no better way to say it as both Danny and Russ summarized it very well. We are all here for one reason and one reason only, to SHARE. Isnt this what the "community" is about? I just hope the admins take a moment and reevaluate some of the people with powers around.
Ah before I forget, if you are gonna patent your "ideas" I really think its time for you to get a hold of apple, you already qualified with this mentality and in MY opinion, you do NOT belong here.
OK done venting... Thank u for listening.
DaDoctor said:
Not sure we are talking about the same thing here my friend, its a much more important subject, sharing, the main reason XDA exists (or so I thought)
btw, thanked u when i was trying to quote ya, oh well, Ill share some love
There is really no better way to say it as both Danny and Russ summarized it very well. We are all here for one reason and one reason only, to SHARE. Isnt this what the "community" is about? I just hope the admins take a moment and reevaluate some of the people with powers around.
Ah before I forget, if you are gonna patent your "ideas" I really think its time for you to get a hold of apple, you already qualified with this mentality and in MY opinion, you do NOT belong here.
OK done venting... Thank u for listening.
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oh trust me it happens in other forums as well. sometimes xda favors those who they want to favor and do not pay any attention to the other party and they side with those who they want to side with..it looks like politics sometimes and whoever is the topdog here should re-valuate the way the mods run the show here.
But the other thing though is devs who do not want to share there work, the dev who asked for permission and got knocked back should respect the other dev's decision. like i said at my post above it goes both ways. we can share but we can also not share as well....it is a difficult scenario really...but kanging and not getting permission is wrong
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oh trust me it happens in other forums as well. sometimes xda favors those who they want to favor and do not pay any attention to the other party and they side with those who they want to side with..it looks like politics sometimes and whoever is the topdog here should re-valuate the way the mods run the show here.
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Thats an other part of the discussion...
Who has the best friends here at XDA will win...
And those discussions are behind close doors.. As it would be better to show the "community" how they come to a decision.
And my post did not come out off the blue, but got me thinking on thinks that happend somewhere this week...
and made me a bit mad and disappointed @ xda
And I see a lot of people pushing the "thanks" button.. but I would like them to reply even more (hint xda staff )
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Thats an other part of the discussion...
Who has the best friends here at XDA will win...
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ahh mate that is so true. but not going to get into that. things should stay private specially between devs and mods. but sometimes us normal members like me would like to know what goes on though cause at the end of the day all this pickering effects the users of the roms cause we are the ones who miss out on class roms...so sometimes acting like kids is not always the best way to go about.
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ahh mate that is so true. but not going to get into that. things should stay private specially between devs and mods. but sometimes us normal members like me would like to know what goes on though cause at the end of the day all this pickering effects the users of the roms cause we are the ones who miss out on class roms...so sometimes acting like kids is not always the best way to go about.
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I would not wanna see the whole discussion, but they could publish the outcome in the thread(s) involved. So the community knows what happend and why.
And if all devs did share, the users would have even more choice to pick from.
And if all devs did share, the hack/tweak would only get better/bigger.
Here is my view on it.... we all agree that the spirit of XDA is about sharing. So if a certain person has spent many hours on programming/creating something and refuses to share it... why post it on XDA in the first place. I just don't get it, because in my eyes that's something small children do when one has something better than the others and refuses to share.
If you want to go 'look at what I've done, isn't it good, aren't I good?' And then go 'but you can't use it, because if you do I'm going to throw a tantrum...' Don't post it on XDA... somewhere, where the main rule is about sharing what you've done.
Just my opinion
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One of the main reason why I choose android is because of the openess of it. The reason why I'm in XDA is because of some great devs/hackers who spend time creating something wonderful and share it with the community without expecting anything in return. I really hope it stays that way.
DutchDanny said:
I would not wanna see the whole discussion, but they could publish the outcome in the thread(s) involved. So the community knows what happend and why.
And if all devs did share, the users would have even more choice to pick from.
And if all devs did share, the hack/tweak would only get better/bigger.
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DutchDanny, I know what happened this week, and believe me: I feel for you (at least in the part of permissions). If you try to ask some devs for permission to use their work, you don't get any answers, if you don't, they cry murder and let xda infract you. That can't be right in the long run. I've been around some years and xda was always about using other peoples work and build upon it (be it companies' work like HTC or Google, or other devs' work). But unfortunately that has changed in the last year or so. I have no problem with the fact that devs want to know who uses their work and for what and that a dev demands being credited for the use of his work. But I have a problem with the fact that some devs/themers/modders can prohibit the use of their work for others. When they claim copyright on that work, they should be reminded that they broke the copyright of numerous other ppl by simply creating their work.
So in my humble opinion, xda MUST change it's sharing policy.
My suggestion: People that want to use the official titles of recognized developers or themers should officially put all work they release on xda into public domain from the moment they release it (under the condition of being credited for it by everybody who uses it). Being RD or RT also includes some rules for conduct, and that sharing policy should be a part of that.
just my 2ct.
jotha said:
DutchDanny, I know what happened this week, and believe me: I feel for you. If you try to ask some devs for permission to use their work, you don't get any answers, if you don't, they cry murder and let xda infract you. That can't be right in the long run. I've been around some years and xda was always about using other peoples work and build upon it (be it companies' work like HTC or Google, or other devs' work). But unfortunately that has changed in the last year or so. I have no problem with the fact that devs want to know who uses their work and for what and that a dev demands being credited for the use of his work. But I have a problem with the fact that some devs/themers/modders can prohibit the use of their work for others. When they claim copyright on that work, they should be reminded that they broke the copyright of numerous other ppl by simply creating their work.
So in my humble opinion, xda MUST change it's sharing policy.
My suggestion: People that want to use the official titles of recognized developers or themers should officially put all work they release on xda into public domain from the moment they release it (under the condition of being credited for it by everybody who uses it). Being RD or RT also includes some rules for conduct, and that sharing policy should be a part of that.
just my 2ct.
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I know you and me never saw eye to eye but you could not have put it any better. Well written post.
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In part i agree but in part nope.
The real fault is by people that have no respect for other people or developers, take this little example:
User A make a rom, some smali changes, some scripts, some apps, a good room in the end.
It comes user B and say " uhm, nice rom but if i'll delete these 2 apk from it then it will be perfect"
So it do that, make thread and people enjoy his work claiming that his rom is better then user A.....
And?? Where is Development? No way, 7zip isn't a tool that can be said for development and the site name is pretty clear, it is not XDAKangers or XDA-ctrl&C/ctrl&V.
Don't get me wrong i'm all for sharing but some people think that sharing means just grab it and use it and the real problem aren't the mods but n00bs that don't know what is the respect for other developers.......that's whay so many thread are closed by mods.
Different story is when a Recognized Developer refuse to give permissions to use his work to another RD or another well know senior member, this should be changed.
I have to agree with the the majority so far, it does seem against the open source culture in which XDA tries to foster.
It does seem with the increase in "kanging" it creates a conundrum for Mods & Admins as to how to manage this, Do we enforce sharing? Do we try to create our own sort of "patent" system in which certain things must be shared under a so called "fair" use and other items such as themes for example be left under the current system we have as present?
We need to find a consensus amongst us as a community with a right way to proceed with this maybe danny could add a poll this to garner opinion on weather people would like to keep the current system or change it to get some sort of indication on weather the current system is working or not.
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DutchDanny, I know what happened this week, and believe me: I feel for you. If you try to ask some devs for permission to use their work, you don't get any answers, if you don't, they cry murder and let xda infract you. That can't be right in the long run. I've been around some years and xda was always about using other peoples work and build upon it (be it companies' work like HTC or Google, or other devs' work). But unfortunately that has changed in the last year or so. I have no problem with the fact that devs want to know who uses their work and for what and that a dev demands being credited for the use of his work. But I have a problem with the fact that some devs/themers/modders can prohibit the use of their work for others. When they claim copyright on that work, they should be reminded that they broke the copyright of numerous other ppl by simply creating their work.
So in my humble opinion, xda MUST change it's sharing policy.
My suggestion: People that want to use the official titles of recognized developers or themers should officially put all work they release on xda into public domain from the moment they release it (under the condition of being credited for it by everybody who uses it). Being RD or RT also includes some rules for conduct, and that sharing policy should be a part of that.
just my 2ct.
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I think you have a real good point there.
All that is released on XDA is under sharing policy.
And not to be claimed.
Credits are the least we could do...
btw: noting happend to me, but to members close to me.. But thanks
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In part i agree but in part nope.
The real fault is by people that have no respect for other people or developers, take this little example:
User A make a rom, some smali changes, some scripts, some apps, a good room in the end.
It comes user B and say " uhm, nice rom but if i'll delete these 2 apk from it then it will be perfect"
So it do that, make thread and people enjoy his work claiming that his rom is better then user A.....
And?? Where is Development? No way, 7zip isn't a tool that can be said for development and the site name is pretty clear, it is not XDAKangers or XDA-ctrl&C/ctrl&V.
Don't get me wrong i'm all for sharing but some people think that sharing means just grab it and use it and the real problem aren't the mods but n00bs that don't know what is the respect for other developers.......that's whay so many thread are closed by mods.
Different story is when a Recognized Developer refuse to give permissions to use his work to another RD or another well know senior member, this should be changed.
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Please take this in consideration, cause this is what made me mad on xda for the decission it made this week, and what made me start this open discussion.
af974 said:
In part i agree but in part nope.
The real fault is by people that have no respect for other people or developers, take this little example:
User A make a rom, some smali changes, some scripts, some apps, a good room in the end.
It comes user B and say " uhm, nice rom but if i'll delete these 2 apk from it then it will be perfect"
So it do that, make thread and people enjoy his work claiming that his rom is better then user A.....
And?? Where is Development? No way, 7zip isn't a tool that can be said for development and the site name is pretty clear, it is not XDAKangers or XDA-ctrl&C/ctrl&V.
Don't get me wrong i'm all for sharing but some people think that sharing means just grab it and use it and the real problem aren't the mods but n00bs that don't know what is the respect for other developers.......that's whay so many thread are closed by mods.
Different story is when a Recognized Developer refuse to give permissions to use his work to another RD or another well know senior member, this should be changed.
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Very well said, but to stay in your example, couldn't it be that the rom WITHOUT the two apk's is really "better" (in the sense of "more popular") than the original? And as long as the creator of that second version stats in his OP the he took the complete work of dev 1 and streamlined it, shouldn't that be enough?
You are absolutely right. The problem really is that some (more and more) guys lack that deserved respect for developers and just don't credit the source, thus pi... off the creator and making him "close" the source, thus restraining true development (if only by removing two apk ). The way to ensure a "fair use" should be discussed and finally fixed. Staying with the situation we have now, that ppl can keep others from using their bits more or less deliberately, maybe just because they don't like their "nose", can't be right. If there are good reasons (history of kanging or whatever), thats something else again.
I'm very sorry, cause I'm not a real dev or themer or contributor, just a young Andoid user and member who's integrated one team after pass sometime to found or help others xda members.
Why I came here on xda site. I'm french, my english is average, but some french forums bored me, that's why I came here, for all that @danny, @russ try to explain in this thread.
And since a couple of time, all of this spirit is gone. For what ?
Money, glory, respect...maybe? But I think not for the last term.
I am here because I want to share and help other members.
But also and because the eco-system Android allows this exchange and to move forward development for the pleasure of all.
Then stop, stop theses local wars and let yours feets on earth.
If you want to make some money, don't diffuse your codes, I think it's not necessary to stay here. Open your site and nobody will be able to take your codes.
Thanks for your listening
Here are my feelings on it.
What has angered me with certain attitudes towards sharing in xda recently, is that it seems to have been initially offered, then retracted. We are given a taste, then told "no more, go make your own". Was the plan to hook us like junkies, then we'd all only have one place to run to for our "fix"? Then when we are all hooked, the price goes up? No more freedom. Only one choice. Is that how you should gain followers on xda? I think we've been treated like guinea pigs then discarded. Permission is withdrawn, refused, then terms like "respect" get banded about. Don't treat us like this.
So we break free. Start from fresh. We are off the hook. Clean. But someone doesn't like us off the hook, pushing our own "product" and, worried about some false notion of competition or turf invasion, goes to lengths to make sure there is only one messiah.
Except this isn't a competition. We are not rivals in different factions or tribes or gangs depending on what Rom we choose to get involved with. We should not be in it for glory, or to be the "Big Dog" whose Rom is forbidden fruit to be envied by those who choose to wear the wrong colors. We are not looking to amass the biggest army as a mark of our success.
Why has this gotten this far? Without getting bogged down in the legalities of open source and gpl, I just think some people in high places need to take a step back. Stop and think. Where do you draw the line between keeping healthy community, encouraging development, and simply looking after your "homies"?
I feel this line is currently drawn in the wrong place. And it didn't use to be.
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There does need to be a clear consensus and line drawn, so we can all ensure that the rules are clear and followed.
That being said; I, like many agree but also disagree.
Sharing here is much like in a store; you as a consumer have a choice. Now albeit here we do not pay for your 'goods' we do still take certain risks(warranty's etc). Now, XDA is also about offering choice so if the sharing policy extends to the point that we can take everything then what choice will be left. Much like you see everywhere on XDA choice is being eliminated everywhere as more builds are essentially the same but for a few wallpapers and tweaks in the build.prop which quite frankly ruins the whole point of having choice and there being more than one available.
Fair enough if someone has spent hours/days/weeks making something and shares it here but that shouldn't automatically then mean that every other 'dev' can bang it in theirs. All they have to do it ctrl+c, ctrl+v the thing after all your hard spent effort on it. The developer should be allowed to be proud of their work and it not to be diluted with it being everywhere. Yes I think we should help, share and combine efforts but if you have improved something and don't wish to share it then fair enough there is no law to state you have to and should someone effectively plagiarise your work then there should be punishments.
If I ask someone for something I would like and they say no, then I go get it myself or do without. I don't just take it anyway, that's what babies do when they don't understand the laws of society which even apply when you are online.
That's my input.
Hello gys
As the name suggest this thread is for donation for shipment for xperia s.
Xperia s which was given by doomloard.
He is not able to pay shipment.
If some of us can make it....achotjan will get it....and start working on xperia overlay for our xperia s
Sources:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2799730
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nisu4717 said:
Hello gys
As the name suggest this thread is for donation for shipment for xperia s.
Xperia s which was given by doomloard.
He is not able to pay shipment.
If some of us can make it....achotjan will get it....and start working on xperia overlay for our xperia s
Sources:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2799730
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Can You give an approximate figure?
No....
Ask in xperia overlay thread in cross device development for Sony devices
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You should mention this has nothing to do with Doomlord. He has already given his device long ago to someone else, who didn't have time for developing (good of him that he at least tries to pass the device on). For the actual call for donation see here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=53843601&postcount=177.
I don't know about donating to them though, see the other semc debrand thread for my reasons why.
Nisu4717, you shouldn't be the one asking for money, Nick is and he has to convince us himself. I'm having a hard time believing someone who has been holding on to this device for months now without a word (even if it is with reasons). And honestly, if I were in his place I'd just pay the €15 myself, even if he has genuine reasons not to have developed anything, it's the least he can do.
Redstarr1 said:
You should mention this has nothing to do with Doomlord. He has already given his device long ago to someone else, who didn't have time for developing (good of him that he at least tries to pass the device on). For the actual call for donation see here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=53843601&postcount=177.
I don't know about donating to them though, see the other semc debrand thread for my reasons why.
Nisu4717, you shouldn't be the one asking for money, Nick is and he has to convince us himself. I'm having a hard time believing someone who has been holding on to this device for months now without a word (even if it is with reasons). And honestly, if I were in his place I'd just pay the €15 myself, even if he has genuine reasons not to have developed anything, it's the least he can do.
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OK.....
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I think 15€ is not so much to ask for donations
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The problem wasn't that they were asking for €15, I've donated a lot more than that already to other developers. What was my problem with it was that nickholtus has received a device for free, sent to him by Doomlord, who himself received that device from a donation by a part of the community (and has done great things with it), and nick hasn't done anything with that phone for over half a year. So now all of a sudden he rightly decides this wasn't fair and the device should go to a developer who will actually do something with it, only he chooses a developer who apparantly isn't willing to pay the transportation fees and he's to broke (cheap?) to pay for it himself. Is it fair to us, the community, to be asking for a donation to move the device that some of us have already paid for? Doomlord never asked for a donation to get the device to nickholtus.
When I donate to someone, it's to support that developer, not to buy off a developer to keep on developing for my own device so to be clear I didn't participate in the donation to Doomlord. If a developer wants to move on, that's fine by me, I only donate out of gratitude for work that has already been done, not for future work.
Redstarr1 said:
The problem wasn't that they were asking for €15, I've donated a lot more than that already to other developers. What was my problem with it was that nickholtus has received a device for free, sent to him by Doomlord, who himself received that device from a donation by a part of the community (and has done great things with it), and nick hasn't done anything with that phone for over half a year. So now all of a sudden he rightly decides this wasn't fair and the device should go to a developer who will actually do something with it, only he chooses a developer who apparantly isn't willing to pay the transportation fees and he's to broke (cheap?) to pay for it himself. Is it fair to us, the community, to be asking for a donation to move the device that some of us have already paid for? Doomlord never asked for a donation to get the device to nickholtus.
When I donate to someone, it's to support that developer, not to buy off a developer to keep on developing for my own device so to be clear I didn't participate in the donation to Doomlord. If a developer wants to move on, that's fine by me, I only donate out of gratitude for work that has already been done, not for future work.
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Totally agree with you
And come on they're two men if it was 15€ then both of them could pay 7.5€
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3pacson said:
We got a math genius here son
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-_-
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They already have 5€,i ll send 4€ so... Need more 6€
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Guys what jobs you all do who are developing roms and other things ..... I mean i also want to develop and i am taking admission in bachelor's in computer sciences..... Which is a long 4years degree.....
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We are all normal people who live normal lives... Some with a wife and kids some without... Development of Roms and themes are a hobbie, a past time.... Our employment is irrelevant to the development of the Roms, themes, mods and what not we do this because this is what we enjoy doing... Do your best in school and don't let up I wish I'd have stayed in school... But to answer your question I am a cook at a local restaurant and also work tech support for Pearson which is why you should get that degree and make them big bucks so you don't have to work twice as hard just to break even surviving....
We cannot teach people anything; we can only help them discover it within themselves.
ezknives said:
But to answer your question I am a cook at a local restaurant and also work tech support for Pearson which is why you should get that degree and make them big bucks so you don't have to work twice as hard just to break even surviving....
We cannot teach people anything; we can only help them discover it within themselves.
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Hats off to you sir. Guess I'll have to work harder at university and take up development when I have the ability, just to pay this loving community back.
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