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***READ: Windows Mobile 2005 and XDAIIs/MDAIII/PDA2K/etc ***

Please read this before asking questions!
As of this time, there is no Blue Angel-compatible CE ROM of Windows Mobile 5 to date, in beta or final form, in circulation nor available for examination or experimentation to us.
As of this time, there are no official or unofficial plans or announcements by any manufacturer, distributor, or wireless carrier.
Please do not create new threads or post off-topic in current threads that are in regards to this UNLESS you have witnessed firsthand that one does exist or that you are or can be in possession of a Blue Angel device that has actual Windows Mobile 5 code on it.
As soon as we can get our hands on a test ROM, we will let you know as soon as possible.
Thank you.
Thanks to BeyondtheTech for the idea and text.

Possible work around
Well its a thought
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=22111
If you have comments post to that thread

The Dream is OVER!!! The president of imate said it
Some dutch company interviewed the head of Imate (in English), He said it himself, that the reason was because of memory issues, and the he was afraid that everytime, the phone died or there was a hard reset, we would lose part of the operating system. heres the link to the dutch webite
Here is a link to the Web Site
Here is a Direct Link to the streaming Audio interview

i'm guessing u didn't see the thread about WM5 actually on a BA device did u? well it's true, WM5 CAN be put on a Blue Angel.
by the way, i listened to the podcast, and he was talking about the magician. now if it was the SuperJAM, then i think it would be ok. but devices with 64MB RAM, then you will have the problem. but since the BA has 128MB RAM it's ok.

Dale Coffing on his site mentions something interesting. At the end of his review on the Samsung i730, he posts a response to a reader in the comments section who was asking about WM5 on the Samsung. Here is his reply:
"I have been running Windows Mobile 5 as a development platform on a BlueAngel device (the MDA3) so it kind of spoiling me to not have some of the advanced features on the i730."
So, it seems that not only is WM5 for the BA possible, but it already exists.
Here is the link to his site: http://dalecoffing.typepad.com/my_weblog/2005/06/first_look_sams.html#more

Youre right, i also read this, but we all knew this before. We know that it exists and we were very very close to getting a hand on it, severel times.

Well if Dale was as big of a bible thumper as he claims he is, he would have shared the device with us by now, after all isn't that what Christians supposed to do, share with the needy? But I suspect that his bigger passion is wth MS so I am pretty sure he won't share with us.

I emailed Dale hes a putts and eveyone on the world who has a BA with 5 and doesnt share it. There all putt's

szamot said:
Well if Dale was as big of a bible thumper as he claims he is, he would have shared the device with us by now, after all isn't that what Christians supposed to do, share with the needy? But I suspect that his bigger passion is wth MS so I am pretty sure he won't share with us.
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If hes such a "bible thumper" as you say that's the very reason he wont give out what doesn't belong to him.

EFJAY--Please help...
I’m having the problem you’ve already solved on the PDA2K with the GPRS re-connection on T-mobile. I ran "The last ones" cab file for changing the ‘flags2’ file to 16. So far so good.
The other issue of course is the need to downgrade my caller id version to 1.20 build 17957. I have the cab file for that: IA_CallerID_1.20_WWE.CAB but when I copy it from my desktop to the device and double tap it I get the same error message: “The file “\windows\iacontacts.dll” is in use or is in ROM. If the file is not in ROM, please close the application using the file.”
So, the second part of the fix is a no go. This device is my goodlink and to be honest I desperately need a work around for this bug in the 1.40 ROM. I would be EXTEMELY grateful if you could stem me through the process of downgrading the caller id .dll file to 1.20 build 17957 and somehow getting around the fact that it’s in ROM.
Thanks very much for your help. I’m afraid I’m supposed to be leaving town tomorrow late afternoon and this IMATE PDA2K was supposed to be my lifeline. Now I’m ready to throw this brick out the window and buy a treo. I’m depressed. L
I would really be grateful for any assistance. Thanks so much.

Re: EFJAY--Please help...
rdaprix said:
I’m having the problem you’ve already solved on the PDA2K with the GPRS re-connection on T-mobile. I ran "The last ones" cab file for changing the ‘flags2’ file to 16. So far so good.
The other issue of course is the need to downgrade my caller id version to 1.20 build 17957. I have the cab file for that: IA_CallerID_1.20_WWE.CAB but when I copy it from my desktop to the device and double tap it I get the same error message: “The file “\windows\iacontacts.dll” is in use or is in ROM. If the file is not in ROM, please close the application using the file.”
So, the second part of the fix is a no go. This device is my goodlink and to be honest I desperately need a work around for this bug in the 1.40 ROM. I would be EXTEMELY grateful if you could stem me through the process of downgrading the caller id .dll file to 1.20 build 17957 and somehow getting around the fact that it’s in ROM.
Thanks very much for your help. I’m afraid I’m supposed to be leaving town tomorrow late afternoon and this IMATE PDA2K was supposed to be my lifeline. Now I’m ready to throw this brick out the window and buy a treo. I’m depressed. L
I would really be grateful for any assistance. Thanks so much.
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im assuming you meant to click new topic rather than reply at the top of the thread!!!, lol

Can we post in here now?
PLEASE!!??!?!?!
Or at least change the sticky to the one that says WM5 is up and running?

o2 xda 2s with windows 2003se - can i change to wm5?

pardon me im a noob around
but pls can any1 help me here? ...i have an o2 xda2s and i want to change it to wm5 ...
i dunno how to do it with no knowledge of any scripting language and i dont seriously get the whole concept of ROM....EXT ROM...and MKROM for the fact.....
if any1 is able to help me out ......help is greatly appreciated...
i would like to know how to that exactly....and pls try to help me get the concept of ROM

Your best bet is to search this forum thats how we all learn how to do it. The tools to unlock your BA can be found on the ftp site and all information you require are their on the wiki link at top of the page here.

i dont think u got me since i mentioned i quite dont get the terms.....i just want to know if yu can help me out and wether it is possible to upgrade my o2 xda 2s without damging it...
plz some one just help me out....

dreadlord said:
i dont think u got me since i mentioned i quite dont get the terms.....i just want to know if yu can help me out and wether it is possible to upgrade my o2 xda 2s without damging it...
plz some one just help me out....
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Hi Dreadlord,
In a nutshell, yes, it is possible to update your unit.
My personal recommendation to you is that you stay with what you have. Presently, there are few advantages that you, as an end user, would gain from an upgrade to WM5. Perhaps, it's just an appearance issue..?
To Upgrade a BA to WM5 requires some end user knowledge of the day to day running of the device and if you're having problems understanding the daily terms within posts here then you might end up damaging your BA.
Don't forget that these ROMS are not official releases. They are patched reverse engineered Operating Systems that still, at this stage, feature bugs & code issues. Granted they are getting better with each release and I strongly believe that one day they'll be a "plug & Play" version that people can just load and use..
This is why I presently am running the latest 1.42 WWE ROM for WM2003SE.. Yes, I have updated my BA to WM5 several times but I have always downgraded again to WM2003SE as so far as I rely on my BA too much for it to use [compared to WM2003SE] an unstable system.
Another thing is that the majority of users on this forum have all had to read the wiki on here and learn. There's very few people who are lucky enough to have this kind of information in their brains already. (Click the link in my Signature to start reading Wiki)
You might not get a good response from others on here if you reply in bold (or caps) stating that you don't understand things - It's not their fault you don't know..
Hope this helps..
Cheers!

Blah Blah.. etc etc.. Hehe
My previous post was my 100th - I'm an an old salt now.. hehe.. Apologies for not being around lately.. I've been in a different country!
Hope all is well with everyone..?
I've noticed the high degree of work that's been done lately on WM5 and all I can say is:
Silly Quote! said:
Jolly Hockey Sticks to you all!!!
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Take care all - it's nice to be back!

WM6 - 2.00.04 PRO PV Version OUT

Final release of 2.00.04 PDAVIET version,
you can find about here http://www.pdaviet.net/showthread.php?t=3183&page=12
Link for download: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=9XG5EP2D
or http://rapidshare.com/files/12826782/ROM_v2.00.04_PDAVIET_UNI_PRO.rar
pass: www.pdaviet.net
Hey guys, we have a rom-by-day.. I don't have the time to reinstall programs that I have to reflash

realogic said:
Final release of 2.00.04 PDAVIET version,
you can find about here http://www.pdaviet.net/showthread.php?t=3183&page=12
Link for download: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=9XG5EP2D
pass: www.pdaviet.net
Hey guys, we have a rom-by-day.. I don't have the time to reinstall programs that I have to reflash
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Is this newer than 2.00.04 PDAVIET_Test ROM ?

Yes, is the "final" one, called PRO (as read on their forum)
Don't know about differences

realogic said:
Yes, is the "final" one, called PRO (as read on their forum)
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do you have the pass to unizip the ROM ?
EDIT: go it, thanx!

realogic said:
Final release of 2.00.04 PDAVIET version,
you can find about here http://www.pdaviet.net/showthread.php?t=3183&page=12
Link for download: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=9XG5EP2D
pass: www.pdaviet.net
Hey guys, we have a rom-by-day.. I don't have the time to reinstall programs that I have to reflash
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OK - that COOL but can some one explain me - HOW to read and understand that language ot PDAVIET - Please folks - when you release some information in diferent language try to translate to english so every one can read it.

Please read
Ok apologies for cross posting.... but can you obsessive flashers please read this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1110678&postcount=50
and keep in mind the bit towards the end about bad images.
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Disclaimer... ok just thought I'd better add. I'm not trying to say anyone has put out a bad image. or that anyone is trying to. before anyone thinks I'm claiming that.

Work,on this version,the videocall?
And in the ExtRom that applications are found?

ivorh said:
Disclaimer... ok just thought I'd better add. I'm not trying to say anyone has put out a bad image. or that anyone is trying to. before anyone thinks I'm claiming that.
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Well so far you are the only one who wrote that and was "kind" enough to repost it again. I believe each person here has the brain to make their own judgement. If they like PDAViet ROM and flash "a lot" so be it. There is no point of trying to convince the others that PDAViet ROM is not good up to your standard. Your "high" standard might not be the same as the others.

It would be best if the developers of these PDAVIET images posted here, then people could ask them questions, and they could respond to bugs etc.
They can carry on posting images on their forum, but I think it's important to realise these roms are posted on a non-english forum, and many people here are flashing it blindly, not knowing if there are things to watch out for, patches or registry imports that should be run, and so on.
I just think it's dangerous the amound of hype surrounding these images when nobody is posting any proper change logs, or able to answer what is changing from one rom to the next.
It's unlikely anything bad will happen, but at the moment, someone saying "wow this is so fast" seems to be enough in people's mind to warrant a reflash.
It's all getting a bit silly imo.

AlanJC said:
It would be best if the developers of these PDAVIET images posted here, then people could ask them questions, and they could respond to bugs etc.
They can carry on posting images on their forum, but I think it's important to realise these roms are posted on a non-english forum, and many people here are flashing it blindly, not knowing if there are things to watch out for, patches or registry imports that should be run, and so on.
I just think it's dangerous the amound of hype surrounding these images when nobody is posting any proper change logs, or able to answer what is changing from one rom to the next.
It's unlikely anything bad will happen, but at the moment, someone saying "wow this is so fast" seems to be enough in people's mind to warrant a reflash.
It's all getting a bit silly imo.
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I'm absolutely AGREE with you !!!

Hi imisim,
and that's exactly why I wrote the disclaimer, I obviously didn't write it clearly enough, sorry! I'm saying I don't have a problem with any of these people posting the ROMS (although it would be nice if they produced changelogs saying what they were improving), I don't believe there's any problem with any of the ones they have posted!
The thing I'm trying to warn of was that when people are posting random rapidshare and other file upload service links "HOW DO YOU KNOW WHAT THEY ARE???" For example I haven't seen any of these recent ROM images posted with an MD5 sum that can be checked for validity.
Sorry if I didn't make my point clear!
I believe each person here has the brain to make their own judgement.
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and I fear you may be too optimistic there!
Cheers and best wishes,
Ivor.

AlanJC said:
It would be best if the developers of these PDAVIET images posted here, then people could ask them questions, and they could respond to bugs etc.
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I agree with you however you need to keep in mind that the PDAViet ROM are leased in their site which is Vietnamese.
The change log is there but in Vietnamese.
The problem is not PDA Viet because their ROM is published for their members and most of them are Vietnamese. The link to their ROM as being posted by the xda-developers members and unfortunately most don't read Vietnamese

BatteryStatus issue....
.....after having issues with reseting my device, I realised that BatteryStatus was causing the issue, forcing me to hard reset my device twice....now the device resets nicely.....but can anyone recommend a good small battery indicator, or even a taskbar one?
Thanks

I don't speak vietnamese too, I posted that link just because that ROM is the most stable one I've flashed, and trusth me, I've flashed all!
BTW, I agree with who says that way is not the most secure.

outfocus: I use iLauncher3, but is not free

I have to agree. I'm interested in trying one of the WM6 ROMs on my wizard/xda mini s, but with the frantic whirlwind of posts, follow-ups, and the almost random naming conventions, the whole BBS seems to have become a frenzy and it's now left me at a complete loss as to which, if any, WM6 ROMs I should have a go with.
Add to that a huge amount of "people should just read the threads" posts, combined with maybe 20 topics, each of 20+ pages of crap to read through, and I'm now probably too nervous about bricking my device to try. For example, do I flash the orwell1984 one, and if so, do I need to roll in the WWE stuff, or will it just work? Should I go for the pdaviet ROMs, or not - and if so which is the best?
Is it any wonder people are left scratching their heads?

ivorh said:
although it would be nice if they produced changelogs saying what they were improving.
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The change log is on their site and here is a rough translation
- ROM v2.00.04 PV was based on ROM v2.00.03 PV
- Aggressive Reg editing.
- Fix RAM leaked and device hung.
- More available RAM (above 24,25Mb) and guarantee faster
- Some additional improvement and add-on.

just one question: is this ROM same as the ROM in this post(http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=290865)?
If not, what the difference between them?
Thx.

Pro Differences / Preliminary Review
Sorry Alan but this is the best ROM out there, BUT you need to understand how to use this - let me begin: (in no particular order)
To use ozvga you must load midgets version of ozvga for crossbow.
The following applications WILL HANG YOUR UNIVERSAL:
SPB backup (BUT YOU CAN USE SUNNYSOFT V4)
SPB Pocket Plus (sorry!)
Now you don't need anymore the CB dialer skin, microsoft voice command 1.6 or new menu for wm5 because THEY ARE ALL IN THE ROM! (But don't restore your old WM 5 new menu settings file or you will hang the device!)
This little Vietnamese beauty also comes with a new version of XP shutdown, an amazing smart dialer, remote desktop and streaming media player!
The dfferences in the PRO version are:
The addition of the remote desktop & streaming media player
Added to settings is a customer feedback form and in connections is another icon to the communications manager.
Voice commander is mapped to the record button
Other things YOU NEED TO KNOW:
Soft resetting WM 6 is sometimes a two stage affair. This DOES NOT appear to be a bug but rather an (early) characteristic. If you need to reset 3 times or more the application you just loaded is not compatable.
Activesync 4.5 beta has embedded smarts for WM 6! When you synchronise for the first time it will ask you suddenly if you want to maintain wireless conectivity while docked to active sync.
There is also a newer bluetooth stack & system tray icon. If you use TomTom for example you no longer need to map the incoming port. The option has been removed anyway.
To summarize - this version of WM6 is blisteringly snappy, full of great features BUT NEW... IT IS NOT GOING TO WORK THE SAME AS WM5 AND NOT USE ALL THE SAME APPLICATIONS. But the overall result is fantastic in my opinion.
Regards,
Simon Jacobs

imisim said:
The change log is on their site and here is a rough translation
- ROM v2.00.04 PV was based on ROM v2.00.03 PV
- Aggressive Reg editing.
- Fix RAM leaked and device hung.
- More available RAM (above 24,25Mb) and guarantee faster
- Some additional improvement and add-on.
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RAM Leaked problem is most important than others, I think.

SPECIAL: TouchFLO and 3DCube

Hello every body and specialy To Mr schaps ...
i juste want to know if it's possible for you to manage and create a new rom for HTC TyTn , Hermes with SPECIAL: TouchFLO and 3DCube like it's was do for the prophet in PDAVIT roms , it's so beautiful like the touch
We Need All The Translated Language , You Are The Best in Translation Of Rom
I Enjoye My Hermes With Your Last French Rom of WM6 ...
Big Thanks To You And XDA Team.
HERMS 200
Super CID Unlock
Shaps Rom 3.75 FR

I dont flame people because I know im a noob myself but I you might want to go and "develop" some flame retardant clothing or hope they close the thread.
In regards to your question, lets just put it this way, it is something that has been discussed and revisited again and again and again and again and again and well, you get the point. Anyway it has not been accomplished by the resident geniuses so it looks a bit hopeless. They have done button flo though but this gets old pretty fast.

3.75 ??? where ?? where ??

CLOSE THIS THREAD. THIS GUY IS A MORON.
I love how people think they are important enough they can just ask for customized roms for themselves.
Oh im sure they are going to get right on this for you dydof, your a genius.

As I said so many times, I will include TouchFlo in my ROMs when it will be fully functionnal. But I will make additionnal CABs for my ROMs with "ButtonFlo" for thoses who would like a "Touch Like" Hermes.
FYI I will release a beta of my new ROMs in few minutes.

Great information...a new beta!

1 000 000 of thanks Mr SHAPS , it's a real big deal and a one of the most information in this thread ...
All my respect for you , you are the best .

now for the B E T A!

son of a GUN.. cant wait all night tonight.. just remembered im working early tomorrow... have to be up early..

ButtonFlo...Schaps
Schaps
I have pm you.
I do have buttonflo working everytime including hr and sr.
When it reboots it still works.
I am using Schaps 3.60a and made a few minor mods.
I am willing to offer it to you schaps for future roms if still interested.

there is no such thing as impossible
we just need one of those htc asian techs to post the work around to get it working on a hermes unit?

call in the japanese

"Interesting" 6.1 Hermes Russian rom help

I have stumbled upon what looks to be an updated version of WM6. Unfortunately the rom is in Russian and I do not have the time to translate/flash (I am in the process of moving) and was wondering if anyone was interested in taking on this task.
I don't want to give out too many details as there has been some backlash in the Wizard Mobile 6 forum due to a similar rom, so please pm me if you are in helping out. I will try to check my messages as often as possible, but understand that I cannot hand this out to everyone at the moment.
Thanks in advance.
(ps. it claims to be wm6.1 but I can't confirm as I do not speak Russian, but the files seem legit...)

Can you please post a link to download this "russian ROOM"
i wouild like to see how is it working on hermes - Thinking of sending one to a friend of mine in Russia.

umm i was lookin into building my own rom.. translating one could be a good preparetion i think so link me?