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Sprite Backup Question

Does Sprite Backup v3 backup to old versions of ROMS if you mess up a ROM upgrade or dislike a ROM upgrade that you have recently undergone? I am just wondering how comprehensive a restore would be before I actually purchase this program. Also, how does one actually carry out a restore? Do you just have to install the Sprite program into the reset PDA and hit restore? Sorry for these basic questions, thanks!

My understanding has always been it does not back-up ROM. I tend to believe that as I recently had some problems with my XV6600 and did a series of test backups. With no software installed, it was a very small file...lead me to believe that ROM is indeed NOT backed up.
One of two ways to do a restore. If you use the default options in Sprite, then after a hard reset, you would need to reinstall Sprite and carry out the restore. Sprite 3 has an option to create a self-restoring backup, which is what I use. It does add considerable size to the backup and you can forget about putting it in the perm storage area. But upon a hard reset, you simply execute the backup file and you're off and running!

trewang said:
Does Sprite Backup v3 backup to old versions of ROMS if you mess up a ROM upgrade or dislike a ROM upgrade that you have recently undergone? I am just wondering how comprehensive a restore would be before I actually purchase this program. Also, how does one actually carry out a restore? Do you just have to install the Sprite program into the reset PDA and hit restore? Sorry for these basic questions, thanks!
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Sprite only restore settings, programs and personal data, I will not recomend it for rom upgrades, ex: I have 1.31 rom from o2 and make a backup, them make a rom update to i-mate 1.40, now make a restore, well, this will not work, some times erase new progranms in the rom, some times convert the new rom to old rom things, for do a restore just install the program a do a restore, but is better what you get a sd card for save the backup data in there...sorry in my english, i speak spanish...

Quick backup question from a converted windows mobile guy

I've searched for this and cant find the info I need so be easy on me, i'm new to android but loving it. On windows mobile when you backed up your device and then did a firmware upgrade you couldnt just do a restore because of the changed registry settings and other issues that went along with it, you had to restore the software 1 at a time all over again. On the evo I have backed up with Titanium backup and mybackuppro. When froyo comes out (or any other upgrade) , will these backup softwares restore your phone to the way it was before without your phone being all screwed up, or do you have the same issues as windows mobile, and also does it matter if the phone is rooted or not, on how the restore process works? Thanks for any help in advance

Those programs back stuff up like bookmarks, user dictionary and home screen setup just fine and restore things like that very well. System settings and such tend to not backup well. Most applications will also backup and restore just fine although some paid / protected apps may need to be downloaded again but for the most part they restore just fine.
Nandroid does a complete and full backup of everything for complete restores should something you flash not be too you liking. Once you finish all the root / recovery steps that option will be in your recovery menu (phone off, power on while holding down volume, select recovery).
Both have their uses. Nandroid takes you back in time to a different rom or kernel or whatever while a program like mybackup pro make it less painful to get all your stuff back if you want to try out another rom.

It should be noted that a Nandroid restore is only supposed to work on the same OS version that it was backed up on.

ramiss said:
It should be noted that a Nandroid restore is only supposed to work on the same OS version that it was backed up on.
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What?
Nandroid works regardless of what rom you had before or what you recently flashed. You can have fresh or damage control, nandroid and try froyo and go right back to the sense rom regardless if its a 2.1 or 2.2.
You can set up three plus different roms and use a new one each day. There is no limitation of using froyo (2.2) and going to a 2.1 rom like damage or an asop rom if we ever get one.
Just wipe cache and dalvik before running the nandroid or flashing a new rom that isn't a direct decedent (fresh .2 to .3)

Aridon said:
What?
Nandroid works regardless of what rom you had before or what you recently flashed.
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Ok, but you can't go back to say 1.5. So there is a point at which too much change in the OS will cause issues with the restore. I agree that within a few minor version points it is fine but I wanted to be conservative in my answer.

Ok , I think I have a good grip on it now. When I upgrade to froyo I will have to use Titanium or mybackuppro to restore my apps(one by one, or batch method) and maybe some of my settings, I can then use my nandroid backup if I dont want froyo anymore and want to go back to my old stock 2.1 sprint rom and have an identical image to restore, is this correct? Thanks for all the help.

[Q] Clockwork recovery and full wipes?

Suffice to say i'm a bit unclear about this... my scenario
currently running leedroid 2.3d with ext3 app partion and I wanted to test out some of the gingerbread ports so far.
If I do a nandroid wipe, and the clear the app partion, and wipe through clockwork, install the new gingerbread rom, decide I dont like it. Can I still restore from the nandroid backup and have lost nothing... I realize it may sound like an obvious question but I couldnt find any conformation on that and really dont want to loose my current setup

Yes, assuming you nandroid before you do the full wipe

To be clear -
Nandroid backups take a complete image of the phone (ROM, apps, homescreen settings...) which is used to put everything right back where it was before you started messing with it.
Take a backup before you do anything, personally I have about 5 or 6 now (usually 2 or 3 on the phone itself, and a couple of trusted older ones copied onto my laptop) so I can get back to a working system. I keep a spreadsheet list of exactly what they are (ROM, setup, kernel if appropriate) so I know which one to restore to. Maybe it's just me but I find "2011-02-02-15.43.53" less than helpful as a restore point name.
Once you have a backup I'd also suggest rebooting, connecting to your computer and backing up the contents of your SD card. So far I've had one card die completely on me, luckily for me there was nothing irreplaceable on it. Backups, like all other files, can be copied from one SD card to another.

Thanks to both of you that was exactly the clarification I was looking for

[Q] Craigslist safety net

Just have a quick question. Recently bought a phone on craigslist and even though the guy did a factory reset before giving it to me, it still has some of his files and apparently TB backups on the internal. So, wanting to have a way of tracking this guy down if things go bad, say, I get blacklisted, I'd like to be able to do so. I think I know the answer but want to make sure, a nandroid will save all the information on the internal including TB backups, data files, EVERYTHING, right? As if you were restoring it to the exact state it was in when you made the nandroid, right? If I were to use Rom Manager to make a complete backup, is it going to backup the SD card too? I want to say the last time I made a backup on my old phone, it was HUGE compared to the previous backup. Meaning, almost 3 gigs I think as opposed to maybe an 800 mb one before. Or could that be because the old backup was ICS and JB is just that much bigger.
I think I'm confident in believing that just making a nandroid would be all I need since the SD card is mine and contains none of his information. I want to make sure just in case and thought this would be the best way to figure it out. I would have no idea how to search for a question like this lol. Thanks in advance folks.

Backup your files and then tell us.
I highly doubt that it would work. My reason being is that if I backed up my files on my exterbal sd card and say get another note 2 and restored the same bacjup on there it would just install it correctly. See where im going?
If it were to change the imei number from the other phone then there would be two phones running the same imei number... which is paradoxical. Not possible.
Theres always variable change though. It might work it might not.
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tony yayo said:
Just have a quick question. Recently bought a phone on craigslist and even though the guy did a factory reset before giving it to me, it still has some of his files and apparently TB backups on the internal. So, wanting to have a way of tracking this guy down if things go bad, say, I get blacklisted, I'd like to be able to do so. I think I know the answer but want to make sure, a nandroid will save all the information on the internal including TB backups, data files, EVERYTHING, right? As if you were restoring it to the exact state it was in when you made the nandroid, right? If I were to use Rom Manager to make a complete backup, is it going to backup the SD card too? I want to say the last time I made a backup on my old phone, it was HUGE compared to the previous backup. Meaning, almost 3 gigs I think as opposed to maybe an 800 mb one before. Or could that be because the old backup was ICS and JB is just that much bigger.
I think I'm confident in believing that just making a nandroid would be all I need since the SD card is mine and contains none of his information. I want to make sure just in case and thought this would be the best way to figure it out. I would have no idea how to search for a question like this lol. Thanks in advance folks.
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A nandroid backup is a exact image of your OS, kernel, and boot image, that doesn't make a backup of your titanium backups because your titanium backups are stored in your internal SD. The best thing to do is make a copy of your internal SD in your computer or just copy your titanium backup folder to your computer.
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[Q] Can a backup brick or damage my phone?

Ok I know this can apply to any cellphone model with Android but since I am going to try this on a SGH-T989 I decided to post it here. I am going to buy a new T-mobile Hercules cellphone, I already own one but since the USB port is jammed and nobody was able to fix it. I love my phone I don't want to buy a new model and since I am so familiar with this I won't buy a newer phone, besides, I do not need more processing power or RAM, I think the S2 has enough, I'm not that type of person that wants to have the "newest" things.
Anyway, I want to save everything I have on my current phone. I performed a complete backup with Clockworkmod Recovery. The question I have is, am I able to recover using that backup on my new phone, recovering everything from the ROM I currently have with it and apps, or will I have issues and am in danger of bricking my own phone?
I think it's easier to recover that way than to use Titanium Backup. I just want to know if I can recover everything the way I mentioned without any harm.

Nandroid restore on a different phone? No.....bad idea. Haven't tried it.... but the system files will be very different.
You can probably backup user apps and data with titanium backup and copy the backup folder to a PC. Then transfer to new phone and restore.
But no, not a nan droid. No way.

kj2112 said:
Nandroid restore on a different phone? No.....bad idea. Haven't tried it.... but the system files will be very different.
You can probably backup user apps and data with titanium backup and copy the backup folder to a PC. Then transfer to new phone and restore.
But no, not a nan droid. No way.
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super backup works great also-and its fast