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Nice legs, Shame about the face

topic title kinda gives you an idea of what im on about, no? ill explane...
its looks good, verry good in black (O2 XDAIIs) but it dont work propperly.
now im shure the HW is good, but the crap Microsoft put on there is a big let down.
im no expert on SW, im just a plane old end user and im not happy
how can the XDAII work 100% (for me) but the XDAIIs not ?
for example. i had tomtom3 on the xda2 for months, not one, i say not one problem.
but after finaly getting it to run on the xda2s it worked ONCE but no more.
the timer comes up for a few seconds then tomtom flashes up at the title bar
then "puff" its gone ?
goto "running programs" in the memory manager thingy and its not there.
the xda2s slows down nealy ALL the time to a crawl so much so that
i lost count of the resets i have done in the 2 days i had it for.
i even had to do a hard reset this morning thinking that may help.
sorry guys i think i will give it a few more days (ive got 14 home aprovel) then i will send it back.
maybe whate for the xda3 (will it have wifi?)
the MAIN reason i got the xda2s was the WIFI, i would get a SD, WIFI card but i keep my tomtom maps on the SD card so i would need
a SD card WiFi with memory on it :S
is there such a thing, or better still a GPS/WIFI/MEMORY SD card ?
(pushing it there i think lol)
oh well, the looking forward to the XDA2s was better than haveing it (so far)

arthur daily said:
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for example. i had tomtom3 on the xda2 for months, not one, i say not one problem.
but after finaly getting it to run on the xda2s it worked ONCE but no more.
the timer comes up for a few seconds then tomtom flashes up at the title bar
then "puff" its gone ?
goto "running programs" in the memory manager thingy and its not there.
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Interesting. I was getting this exact problem on my XDA II when I first tried to use it a couple of days ago. Worked fine in the house as I was playing with it (new toy ) but as soon as we went out in the car it stopped with the same symptoms you describe.
In the end I hard-reset my XDA II and it seems to be fine now.
The first time I installed the TomTom software I used the default (non Win SE) disk, but second time I used the 'Update' disc. Perhaps the update disc is better for Win2k Phone Edition devices...

i'm new to the pocket pc arena and was looking forward to *using* my new xda iis... i'm now *working* with my xda iis, trying to make it reliable and actually useful.
when i first got it, it ran a movie for 2.5 hours perfectly while on my train journey, syncronised my files perfectly, except it refuses to backup my text messages (a feature, not a bug apparently) and redraws the interface and programs very very s l o w l y.
i was appalled that they'd even release this half-finshed software. And am now looking for a newer/better/faster ROM... Might as well use a pencil and paper.

How I made my XDA IIs more stable....thanks to Wilesd

I saw a post on here about the progs in the windows/startup folder. Someone mentioned that removing the "connections" executable file had made their XDA more stable. It seems to be the exe that places the O2 icon on the task bar at the top of the screen.
I tried just that...moved the file out of startup to a temp backup folder and did a soft reset.
That was a couple of days ago and I haven't had to reset since Previously I was having to reset 3 or 4 times a day just through very light use!
Thanks for the suggestion Wilesd

Hmm not sure what .exe you are talking about in the windows\StartUp folder.
All I have there are:
Code:
aPerSaveStark.lnk
Camera_Detect.lnk
CheckAutoRun.lnk
ChgDfLnk.lnk
cPerSaveStar.lnk
IA_Caller_ID.lnk
nPerSaveStar.lnk
O2 Connect.lnk
poutlook.lnk
RegNotify.exe
Run_BTTrayCE_10.lnk
Spb GPRS Notify.lnk
STK.lnk
tPerSaveStar.lnk
As you can see.. The only .exe I have is the RegNotify.exe.
The closest that I get to O2 is the O2 Connect.lnk shortcut..
Is that the one you moved?

I don't have the "02 Connect" link in my startup. The file I moved was called "Connections". I can't see on my pda what the file extension is so I don't know if it was a .lnk or a .exe. The mention in the previous post I got the info from was that it was an executable though.
THIS is the post I saw it in.
Maybe it's a country specific thing ?

After all the crashing I was getting with the 1.31 ROM and O2 Active which I never used I decided to do the Corporate install that does not put on the O2 Active rubbish. My phone has not crashed since before I was getting at least 4-5 lockups a day!

Glad I could help, anyway I had to hard reset mine after i installed some dodgy camera upgrade Cab file so decided to give the "Corporate" option ago this time, just select Corporate during the Boot up and type 0506 when it asks for a corporate code.
No looking back now, basically you get a clean WM2003SE install without ANY O2 rubbish but all the GPRS configs etc.. intact. I have not had to do a single reset since.
Recommend this method to any fed up with the O2 active stuff screwing up your IIs. I can honestly say I can't fault the device now.

Thanks for the info guys.
I been holding back from doing the ROM update on my XDAIIs due to everyone saying they have to keep sot reseting their device.
I've just removed the connections.exe from startup folder on my existing setup - make sure i'm happy to carry on without the O2 icon at the top.
Will let you know how I get on.
Thanks again.

Great I shall try this tomorrow.
I've been getting regular crashes on my XDA 2s since I upgraded to the latest ROM.
D

Thanks, removed the O2 connections as suggested 2 days ago and have not needed to reset since.
Was having to reset 2 or 3 times a day since I'd upgraded.

difference between corporate and personal
Whats the difference between corporate and personal mode?

Corporate mode basically doesnt install O2 Active at all so you're left with the default windows screen (presumably so you could customise with your own corporate guff)

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Corporate mode basically doesnt install O2 Active at all so you're left with the default windows screen (presumably so you could customise with your own corporate guff)
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Thanks and what do you mean "0506" as corporate code?

thanks ...yellow screen?
thanks guys the corp version seems to do the trick, look very stable now. who need o2 crap. however i can't fail that notice that the screen is slightly yellow from certain angles. it look whitish when you are right in front of it but from any other angle it looks yellowish...anyone else with similar screens? don't remember this to be the case with my previous trusted xda 2...it's a nice device though...
yanni

It seems to be a thing with the latest XDA2 "s" and "i" models as it didn't happen on the original XDA2. I did read that the original had Sony screens but the newer ones are made by someone else.
Regardless of this minor inconvenience, I do think the new screens are much brighter that the previous ones...Just my opinion of course :roll:

It seems to be a thing with the latest XDA2 "s" and "i" models as it didn't happen on the original XDA2. I did read that the original had Sony screens but the newer ones are made by someone else.
Regardless of this minor inconvenience, I do think the new screens are much brighter that the previous ones...Just my opinion of course :roll:

increase brightness levels
yes they are brighter indeed...also, the xda2s by default reduces the light of the screen to conserve power when used on a battery...if you fix this the yellowish feel goes almost away...why can't they get their sceens right, same probs with bloody apple products, don't they understand that their screen are the most important interface with their devices...
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connections.exe in start up
I removed the connections as advised in my XDA IIs and yes it did improve the stability, but after several days I found that even though the PDA was working well the phone would not work properly, either the phone would lock or it would not dial out, or you would answer a call but the caller could not be heard. On two occasions my blue tooth connection was lost. though this only happened on the first day. This was solved by a soft reset. So I have come to the conclusion that yes connections is the trigger but also it dose serve some purpose. I am therefore going to use the corporate mode which seems to be a common solution on many forum topic subjects. I hope this feedback helps others.

I have only just got an XDA2s & noticed that I was resetting 5 or more times per day. I have now removed connections.exe from the startup folder and also removed all references to O2 Active from the Today program and the Start Menus
I'll post results in a few days

Re: connections.exe in start up
fvau72 said:
I removed the connections as advised in my XDA IIs and yes it did improve the stability, but after several days I found that even though the PDA was working well the phone would not work properly, either the phone would lock or it would not dial out, or you would answer a call but the caller could not be heard.
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I tried corporate mode with removed connections.exe and installed beta of the new today screen.
I have noticed an issue with losing connections too, and your comment about not hearing caller reminds me that happened to me but I thought nothing of it at the time.
I have noticed a bit of a pattern to the not dialling out issue
Basically if the phone loses all connection for a while (not sure how long) then it seems to not get it back when you get to an area you can receive. A soft reset sorts this out.
But this is highly annoying for me, I live in London and go to work on the underground (subway to you yanks) and when I come out if I forget to reset my BA it will not receive calls or dial out.

XDA IIs Stability
What ROM version or versions are you all using?
I'm also having to reset my XDA a couple of times of day and would like to improve on the stability of the device. I've looked in my \Windows\startup and have various links (one is O2 Connect) and two executables (CommLoader.exe and RegNotify.exe).
Also, when I have had to do a hard re-set I have never gotten the option of 'Corporate or Personal'. Probably because of different ROM versions.
Also have any of you experienced problems with the Bluetooth no starting because of low memory on a regular basis?
Do any of you have an O2 XDA IIs from Asia?
Thanks

No resets in 3 days now I've removed connections.exe & stop using O2 Active UI Not using corporate mode though - I'm not brave enough yet to try upgrading my ROM

My new xdaIIs locks up about 5 to 10 times a day.

I just had to have my old xdaII replaced with the XDAIIS. Im not sure this is a good thing. I felt a better replacement would have been the XDAIIi , but the insurance wouldn't go for it. After getting it, I found it to be better than expected. I didn't like the keyboard feature at first and still havn't used it. I can say it does have a pretty blue lighted keypad, which I will probably never use.
What I don't like is the fact it locks up 5 to 10 times a day and has to be reset.. There seems to be no reson for this. I do use the old xdaII case, which might come in contact with some of the buttons ( not sure) probably not. I have ordered a new hard case that is made for this pda, in hopes this will solve the problem.
Has anyone else had this lockup problem???
Dave

David Vinyard said:
I just had to have my old xdaII replaced with the XDAIIS.
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Has anyone else had this lockup problem???
Dave
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Have you loaded any other apps or today screen plugins etc?
Is it a vanilla device that is just locking up?
You'll get lots of people teeling you it's the O2 software - but mine works fine with it running.

I had exactly the same problem. The device would usually hang while I was using Wi-Fi or GPRS, and I'd have to reset at least 3 or 4 times a day.
The o2 active software constantly monitors the status of these types of connections, and is most likely the culprit. Believe me, you are much better off without it.
After removing the o2 software I've not had to reset device at all. Just disable the o2aui today plugin by unticking the item in the Today settings dialog. You'll also need to delete the shortcut called Connections in the \Windows\StartUp folder.
Let us know if this helps with the lock-ups.
-no1

how to remove the O2 software.
thanks very much

Strange Majik Problems

Strange things are happening all day today, I had majik installed since friday. Today my bleutooth jsut turns of and I cant use the head-set. Then programs like messaging froze, I was able to close it, but still IE froze and stuff like that, any one else expirencing things like this ?

yozh said:
Strange things are happening all day today, I had majik installed since friday. Today my bleutooth jsut turns of and I cant use the head-set. Then programs like messaging froze, I was able to close it, but still IE froze and stuff like that, any one else expirencing things like this ?
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Ive been SRing all day! Mines been freezing on my telenav and sirius. Just started to do this today. Has been fine since Friday as well.

Yeah, same here. I have to do a SR every time I get in my car
Looks like I'll be installing something else on it...

I have been having IE problems connecting, Bluetooth not connecting, 3G freezing. Must be a bad day for Majik.

Well well I`m not alone on this, well vp3G here I come.

I am having this problem as well, what worse is that I am away from my PC for 32 days! on business in boston and all I have is a mac, even worse is that Igo keeps losing GPS whenever it shuts off Bluetooth, isn't there a registry hack that enables power-save on BT, I think I enabled that before and had a similar problem in WM5

spiritofseth said:
I am having this problem as well, what worse is that I am away from my PC for 32 days! on business in boston and all I have is a mac, even worse is that Igo keeps losing GPS whenever it shuts off Bluetooth, isn't there a registry hack that enables power-save on BT, I think I enabled that before and had a similar problem in WM5
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Oh man I feel for you. I`m not sure about pwersetting for b, but it would make sense to me.

Had many problems with Majik yesterday so I tried 3 other roms. Not one would give me 3G sitting here in my office as majik had done. Flashed back to Majik and is working very well. I guess vevery week reflash

People, the root of nearly 70% of problems stems from 3rd party apps and NOT the ROM......
suggest you guys test it out with no apps installed and you will see the ROM is solid.
anything with 'spb' in the title should be left at arms length.
Anything like phonealarm etc... that claim to support WM6 really are only going on beta testers...remember the releases we are using are VERY new

Had nothing spb installed. The biggest issue is the BT disconnecting all the time. And the phone frezing.

yozh said:
Had nothing spb installed. The biggest issue is the BT disconnecting all the time. And the phone frezing.
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Like i said, Hard Reset....then dry run it and youl probably see the difference.....3rd party software which is acting up can cause allsorts of weird problems.

yozh said:
Had nothing spb installed. The biggest issue is the BT disconnecting all the time. And the phone frezing.
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I've got 5 8525's running this Majik and only one has "freezing" issues... and he had these same issues with his Wizard. 2 POP3 email accounts being polled every 30 minutes, Exchange 2003 push and 140 plus reminders MIGHT have something to do with it <sigh>
Battery life is incredible, speed is great when one adjusts the glyphcache.
As with you, my biggest complaint is with the BT dropping the call to the device but then I can bring it back up… seems to happen mostly on my initial outgoing call….
Again, respect to the chefs, this is a bad ass ROM.
Peace, out.

Hi Guys
I have been running LVSW 20070423 since it was released. Yesterday i decided to give Majik a go. All i can say it is terribly slow. Even clean ROM without applicvations. Could only stand it for 30min and then i reflashed LVSW back. The other thing is default coulors, i could hardly see my screen when outside. Dialer is crap, i like native WM6 dialer when you can type a few letters and then hide the dialpad. In Majik there are 4 lines only and if you have a lot of contacts it is a real pain to scroll through.
No good for me at all.
Will stick with LVSW ROM until the official release.

I have installed, Sirius, Voice Commander, Adobe, Live Search, WLM 1400, and esmertec. I tweaked the performance myself and set up mms and MEdia net and ISP/WAP settings myself. After I reinstalled Majik I have had no problems. I think that those problems came from WLM and IE because of the IPhone owners taking up my bandwidth
Note....Everybody that had problems was the same day they released the IPhone and we are all on AT&T
Check it out
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/07/03/stingy_att_iphone_network_snafu/

Second Flash
I think I had a bad flash the first time around.
I reflashed yesterday and the speed problems have dissapeared.
I was waiting +/- 20 seconds for /windows to open using file explorer.
That's all gone now and the ROM is pretty nippy and stable so far for my application.
But I do feel that all the extras trying to mimic the "Touch" ROM will have an effect on the speed and maybe stability.
That's why is still flash a different ROM every week or so.
To date Sleuth seems to have the combo nearly right.
LVSW cooked up fantastic ROM's, but he seems to be playing with his ELF now. - a bummer for us Hermes users.

Majick slowishness
I've found that installing the video dialler (3 cab files) dramatically slows down the Majick rom. I thought I was imagining things so I hard reset and repeated the excersise a couple of times with the same effect.
I leave the video dialler off now. I can't think of a time that I've ever used it although I do obsess about having a feature on my phone that I can't use even though I never use it.
Although Majick is an excellent ROM I did find the current LSVW was a bit quicker. The HSDPA problem in this ROM meant that it was a no-goer for me though.
I'm not complaining you understand, I'm very grateful for all the work people have done to get me WM6 on my phone!

only problem i have with majic so far is that when I add the new internet 3G connection, my username and password never seems to get saved no matter after how long. i have tried to both soft reset and power off, but still the 3G username/password never gets saved. anyone have any ideas on this?

Help Greatly Appreciated: Phone cuts off. Possible power or WM6 problem.

I used to own a T Mobile MDA Compact 3 which I believe is the same as the Artemis.
The phone worked fine for me over the 18 months I had it. However I've since sold this phone on ebay and the buyer has reported a problem where it keeps cutting off via email.
I don't know if he's pulling a fast one or if this is a genuine problem. If it is a genuine problem how do I fix it? Any help would be appreciated.
The only problem I've had with the phone is a screen problem on it in January and went back to T Mobile for repair. They sent it back with a replaced screen and WM6 on it which the buyer is saying is likely to be the cause of the power cut outs.
If it is WM6 does anyone know how to downgrade the device back to WM5? Any help appreciated.
Rather than paraphrase his emails I'll just list them in order received:
Email 1 received:
"hi.. this phone keeps switching off compeletely. each time i have to restart. sometimes its after 10mins other times its later. do you still have any warranty on it? if so can you post me paperwork and i can possibly have it repaired. if not then its faulty. it just keeps randomnly switching itself off. ive tried hard resets. even downloaded latest roms from tmobile website for compact 3 but still no success. ?? only other thing i can try is reinstalling windows mobile....."
I asked him for the link used to download the rom:
Email 2:
"tmobile direct.. under support and software.. i worked for 02 providing data support on pdas for 7 years and now own a 60 seater call centre in manchester and sell consumer and business mobile phones.. look at my feedback. ive bought and sold many pdas. im familar with them. backlight and power settings are unticked. it just completely shuts down. same as would when you would when you do a soft reset. after a hard reset the only thing you can really do is make sure the latest rom or software is installed. its an intermittent problem and i cant replicate it all the time. when it does it just switches off completely. no error messages at all. on standby it fine. its when your using the phone, any application or even on the internet. did wm6 come with the phone or did you install this yourself. ive noticed wm6 is not available on this model by tmobile. they have taken it off their websites.. ive used wm5 and have never experienced problems with them. if wm6 was an upgrade do you have wm5"
Email 3:
"i will try another battery as i have more mda compact 3's... if it works with another battery. no probs. i'll keep it. if it doesnt then i will have no option but to return as its faulty. could well be the battery if you have used it for about 18mths.. will keep you posted. thanks"
Email 4:
"i have done a little more testing and here is a problem that i can replicate every 5-10 mins.. the phone itself if not used does not switch off. its when its used that i have the problem. i have noticed in the about section the phone originally came with WM5. so maybe its the WM6 that is not fit for the phone? WM6 is not available and not supported on this model by Tmobile. Anyway. if i log onto to the internet via gprs and am physically browsing after a few mins the phone will reboot itself and switch off. so if im on the internet but not actually browsing and have just a gprs session active, the phone is fine. its only when i am actually browsing a site - it can be any randomn sites its not linked to any one site.. regards bash - hope the above makes sense.."
Email 5:
"i still have not had chance to try with a different battery but when i do i will let you know. i dont think you are a rip off merchant at all. im just letting you know the problems i am experiencing. its not just the internet. its also when i use my own 3rd party software which i use on other mdas orbits and spvs and works totally fine. i will speak to tmobile in the morning and see if i can get wm5 off them as i think its related to wm6. if the battery or wm5 does not fix it then i will have no choice but to return it. will keep you posted. regards"

bump.
Any help really appreciated.

I have the very same problem here !!!!
Dont think its the battery because it started from one moment to another with a FULL battery

I had the same problem with my phone turning off during use for no reason even when the battery was showing it was charged.
I replaced my battery and all seems to be OK now.
See thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=543194
Regards, Alistair