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Exchange SP2 Push Mail Providers

Hi all,
Just upgrading to new Imate ROM. Now it seems that Universal has push email can anyone recommend an Exchange SP2 direct push email provider for consumer market? Many thanks for taking the time to read.
Tom C (UK) :lol:

The onlyone I know for the moment is 4smartphone.net - if you find any better (means cheaper), let me know!

Some report are saying 4smartphone.net takes 30 seconds to push an email to your device, rather than 5 seconds or less that others are getting via their own exchange servers.
Its worth asking these website exchange account providers what frequency they run the push 'heartbeat' at - you might end up with a big bill if they haven't set the Exchange/firewall to a reasonable rate.

Device SMS Address
I've just signed up for the 4smartphone trial, but Orange are completely unable to tell me what the Device SMS Address should be. They don't have a clue what this is about. I was guessing [email protected], but that doesn't work.
Does anyone know what it should be?

Re: Device SMS Address
rossp said:
I've just signed up for the 4smartphone trial, but Orange are completely unable to tell me what the Device SMS Address should be. They don't have a clue what this is about. I was guessing [email protected], but that doesn't work.
Does anyone know what it should be?
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If you're using the aku2 rom then you don't need an sms address. The MSFP/Direct Push works via http not sms. Waaaaaay better!

Settings
I think it is that version. I'm using the new ROM version 1.30.68 with Radio version 1.09.00. I can see the push mail icon in Comm Manager, but it's greyed out, so I'm not sure where to go from here. The 4smartphone support pages are not exactly informative.
Can anyone point me to a website about setting this up? My searches are not getting me far.
Thanks.

Re: Device SMS Address
jdee246 said:
rossp said:
I've just signed up for the 4smartphone trial, but Orange are completely unable to tell me what the Device SMS Address should be. They don't have a clue what this is about. I was guessing [email protected], but that doesn't work.
Does anyone know what it should be?
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If you're using the aku2 rom then you don't need an sms address. The MSFP/Direct Push works via http not sms. Waaaaaay better!
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Is the AKU2 ROM available?
Where?
Thanks
Steve

Its a test aku2 universal rom...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=42743

Got it working
Just need to ignore the instructions on the 4smartphone web page about SMS Device.
From the moment of clicking send on my Desktop to the email arriving in my device inbox the time taken is about 25 secs, which includes gmail forwarding it to the 4smartphone address.

4smartPhone Help!!
Glad to hear that you got the SMS problem sorted which help me out too. I can now sync with contacts but what do I do for the email. Do I have to set an account up on WM5 which I have done but there is no push coming through I have to manually send and receive. Any help much welcome. Thanks

You need to set it up using active sync in WM5. You will need to add a server (secure.4smartphone.net) then your username, password and domain (4smartphone). It will then sync using the GPRS connection.
I've got Outlook desktop, Outlook Web Access (with smartphone) and Outlook on WM5 all synchronizing nicely. My only problem is that I have three pop email account on Outlook desktop, but 4smartphone only seems to work with one.

And just to add the obvious, you need to have email being forward to the address that you got @smartphone.com

Re: Device SMS Address
rossp said:
I've just signed up for the 4smartphone trial, but Orange are completely unable to tell me what the Device SMS Address should be. They don't have a clue what this is about. I was guessing [email protected], but that doesn't work.
Does anyone know what it should be?
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4Smartphone.net are US based, where email to SMS is very common. It took the Americans about three years to wake up to the fact that everyone else in the world has to pay for SMS messages to be sent - hence the new push technology from Microsoft.
What they are referring to is a feature known as AUTD (always up to date) which is how Exchange used to do push. A specially created SMS text message would be sent to your phone which told your device that something had changed, and it would then do a sync.
I am told that it worked very well - it is just unfortunate that for everyone outside of the USA the feature would cost many thousands to run for each single user.
Simon.

4smartPhone Help!!
Thanks for your quick reply. I have forwarding set up and all the correct settings for Active Syn in WM5, UserName, Password, Domain and Save password. Under the Options in ActiveSync there now appears and Exchange Server with the following selected Contacts, Calendar, E-Mail, Tasks.
I'm still not sure though what to do with the email all the above are syncing via 3g. In the Messages section do I have to create a new account and if so what are the correct setting for this?
Thanks again for the help and suggestions.
Tom C.

When it syncs with the Exchange server it automatically goes into the Outlook email inbox on your device. If you've previously been synchronizing with the desktop it wipes out those emails, which is why I'm trying the Pro version of 4smartphone and synchronising all three.
Have you checked if test emails you are sending are reaching the 4smartphone email address? You can do that by logging into the web version of Outlook via the link on their website.
Also the push email icon in Com Manager should now be working and it will say Microsoft DirectPush at the top.
That may not be much help, but I am also completely new to this.

4smartPhone
Once again thanks for the help. Just about got it sorted as I read your reply. The missing link for me is that the you don't have to sent up a seperate email account I was looking for server addresses extra but all those go under ActiveSync. Getting mails fine now but not too sure yet about sending them. Are yours sending fine or is there a delay?
Thanks again, you are still once step ahead of me

I've got Push email working with mail2web.com and have a few questions:
I've gota couple of email addresses that won't forward to my mail2web email account and I don't really want to use mail2web's harvester as that only checks once every hour, so I was wondering whether it's possible to set Outlook on my PC to synce with my mail2web account so that my PC will download emails from my POP accounts, then upload them to my mail2web server, which then pushes the emails to my phone?
Or is there a simpler way to do it?
Also, when I reply to an email that's been pushed the reply address is always my mail2web email address, which is a pain as it confuses people and gets rejected by my email groups. How can I change the default address that my replies go from, or even just change them on each email as I reply?
I'm sure I'll have more questions soon.! Cheers.

paulrockliffe said:
Or is there a simpler way to do it?
Also, when I reply to an email that's been pushed the reply address is always my mail2web email address, which is a pain as it confuses people and gets rejected by my email groups. How can I change the default address that my replies go from, or even just change them on each email as I reply?
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Yup, use 4smartphones.net.
IT'S FOUR QUID A MONTH!

HI
i m using tmobie mda (usa) with the data plan and with the i can configure my pop3 email account on my phone and make to get the emails automaticaly after certain time
so then why do we need exchange server for
i mean i can be wrong too but if i m wrong can someone tell me the right thing
Thanks

I recommend Mail2Web, the simple setting and most important it is FREE.

WM6 SMTP Port (non-standard port) Issue

Okay.. I have read and read and my eyes are bleeding!
In WM5, I could specify the smtp port in Pocket Outlook by adding the port number to the end of the smtp server (i.e. smtp.blahblah.com:27)
For some reason when I set this in WM6 (Black 1.2) it still tries to connect to port 25. I have verified this behavior as I admin the mailserver I am trying to connect to.
So.. Am I missing something or is this broken in WM6?
Regards

try using cwmx.com as your smtp server. you are on cingular right?

spiritofseth said:
try using cwmx.com as your smtp server. you are on cingular right?
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Actually, I know I can use Cingular's smtp server but I would rather use my own as it's more secure and I can debug any delivery errors.

dbaser said:
Actually, I know I can use Cingular's smtp server but I would rather use my own as it's more secure and I can debug any delivery errors.
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I had a similar problem and it was not WM6 but rather the ISP connection. Using a non standard SMTP port (gmail) through WIFI works fine specifying the addressort in the account config. The same with T-mobile service gets blocked.
In my case it is not a WM6 issue.

mfabre said:
I had a similar problem and it was not WM6 but rather the ISP connection. Using a non standard SMTP port (gmail) through WIFI works fine specifying the addressort in the account config. The same with T-mobile service gets blocked.
In my case it is not a WM6 issue.
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Well.. It worked last week in WM5 flawlessly. And when I set the port to 27 I see the phone connect on the SMTP server to port 25 as if it just disregards the port number and connects to 25 no matter what.

Really strange. Perhaps is the ROM release? I am using VSWM from 03/20. I just tested again and my authenticated SMTP to smtp.gmail.com on port 587 are going out without problems.
Let us know if you find the problem.

Just tested using WiFi and it tried port 25 even tho 27 is specified. Naturally my ISP blocks 25 so it borks out. Something is amiss here... maybe a registry setting? Maybe someone can check HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Inbox\Svc\ and see if there is a SMTP setting. Or maybe the mailtrans.dll has 25 hard-coded in the ROM I am using?
*shrug*

dbaser said:
Maybe someone can check HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Inbox\Svc\ and see if there is a SMTP setting.
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No SMTP key in mine. In fact, I did search the registry for the gmail smtp information and could not find it. It seems to be stored somewhere else.

Ugh!
So... I deleted and recreated the email account...
And it WORKS now!!! I say WTF ever
Thanks for all the input peeps... much appreciated.
-db

Change to SMTP Port number REQUIRES a new account in WM6
I scoured the next beforehand and discovered that you can't simply tack on a ":XXX" port number to your SMTP server. it actually requires that you delete the account and re-create it with the port number string.
I figured this out once before, but then of course, forgot it and when setting up my email on my new Dutty 6.1 rom (r0xors!), learned the hard way again.
Hope this helps,
-Humbert

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it actually requires that you delete the account and re-create it with the port number string.
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Thanks Humbert! This did the trick for me on my Polaris and for my colleague on his Tytn II.
Regards, Wouter

deechte said:
Thanks Humbert! This did the trick for me on my Polaris and for my colleague on his Tytn II.
Regards, Wouter
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Cool. Glad to have helped out.
-Humbert

there's no need to erase the account, just go to the email settings on pocket outlook and ad ":xx" the outgoing server. example "mysmtp.com:27"
worked fot me in my htc touch.

SMTP and change port.

Hi ... I have a problem with the configuration of my email account.
I need to change the default SMTP port 25 with another because my ISP use another ... How can I change It?
The version of my ROM is 3.30.
THNX.

ekkelon said:
Hi ... I have a problem with the configuration of my email account.
I need to change the default SMTP port 25 with another because my ISP use another ... How can I change It?
The version of my ROM is 3.30.
THNX.
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Apologies if I am wrong on this one but don't you just add it to the end of the mail server address in options?
ie. if mail server is : mail.server.com and you want to use port 2525, then you put in:
mail.server.com:2525

I cant get this to work - anyone know if it would be possible to create a cooked rom with a given port hardcoded into the pocket outlook app?
Dave.

port 2525 sounds like a socketmail email service

nah, 2525 is a common mail services alternate port to get around the ISP's blocking of port 25.
My mail service will also use port 587.
Anyway adding :2525 after the mail.server.com works fine here.

serverort does work
I am using servernameortnum currently in WM6 on my hermes, so it does work.
I am using port 465, the secure SMTP port. that, or 587 (the mail submission agent port) is likely unblocked by ISPs, but you would have to make sure that the server is listening there, and you will almost certainly need to authenticate to the smtp server. Many servers will only allow authentication over a secure link, so you might need SSL enabled too.
I had trouble however with SSL and SMTP AUTH in pocket outlook. If anyone else does, this might be useful: http://lists.exim.org/lurker/message/20040609.135310.ba09a6e4.html
Based on that link I ended up needing to make sure my mail server started conversations on port 465 in SSL/TLS mode (rather than waiting for a STARTTLS). For anyone using Exim, that means setting "tls_on_connect_ports = 465" in your config. For people using a commercial mail server, you might just have to try lots of ports and setting permutations.
So the short version is that serverort does work, but there are other concerns as well.
note that is "colon" "p". or a dumb looking little face.

[Q] Different e-mail client

Hello all,
I want to ask u for a different from e-mail client from embedded one...It won't works for me...I can send e-mail's but I can't recieve my e-mail's via POP3. I checked my settings and everything...but still won't work...So i want to ask u for a different e-mail client which support POP3 accounts.
I will be very greatful if you can help me
Thanks in advance.

Email Setup Question

So, my girlfriend and I both have the EVO 4G. I'm trying to setup her email for her college-John Jay, and I'm having problems with the outgoing. She called John Jay and they said it shouldn't matter which port we use for the outgoing, however it's not validating. The server is imap.jjay.cuny.edu, the incoming port is 143. To my knowledge I'm thinking that the port 25 for outgoing is restricted... is there anyway to get around this? Thanks!

try 587, that is usually used for encrypted smtp transmission

i did try 587, but that was with the pop... but i will try it later, thanks
update: i tried 587, no go, i think the problem is with the jjay server. they claim is doesn't matter what port we use, but it's not authorizing. the most i can get is the incoming working and no outgoing. of course, no one at john jay knows anything :/

Give port 465 a try too. If helpdesk is telling you port is irrelevant, they're idiots. Proper server and port are needed for functioning email - if either is incorrect, email will fail to send.
Most schools have a web page with outlook or generic pop/imap settings. Btw, do check the pop setting for outbound email. Imap is strictly for inbound, and has no affect on outbound.

ok so, it's not anything with android, it's the school. the server's all messed up and they're not providing any info on what it is. i tried setting up the email on outlook and it was the same thing, so no worries, got the incoming working, that's all that really matters.

Btw, you can use a DIFFERENT outbound server and still have it show your school email address (or whatever you want). Most(all?) smtp servers require authentication if you're not on their network. Once authenticated, it doesn't matter what the sending email address says.

Hey. Do you mind giving me the info for the outgoing server that the only part Im missing?