Might be a simple solution and I'm just being dense, same old story dont read the manuals.
But, how do I disable the GPRS default ?
WIFI says its connected, when I try and browse thru the XDA it starts bloody GPRS?
Steve
I think your wifi must not be fully working, sounds like it not being routed to your internet connection.
For me once I have connected to my Linksys AP (WAG54G) if I use Pocket IE or Email it works without trying to connect to GPRS.
You could always test by turning on flight mode to disable the GPRS.
Couple of questions,
1. Can you browse to your AP config page with PIE
2. On the AP config page does it show your XDAIIs as being connected
3. What are your AP settings, does this tie up with what you have set on the XDAIIs
4. Does your AP work with other WiFi devices ie a laptop
5. Ensure your AP is set up for either 802.11b or mixed but not 802.11g only
My general advice wuld be to start with really simple setting on your AP ie no encryption, not mac filtered, broadcast SSID, DHCP enabled etc, once you get going turn on the settings one at a time till you get the set up you require.
Erm... thats probably enough to get started with
Good luck
Ok have done as you suggested,
1.no cant see Ap from pda
2.AP config page doesnt have this facility
3.probably where the confusion starts
4.WiFi works fine with 2 other laptops
5 My netgear mp3 box is 802.11b
The confusion is that when you put the XDA2s in flight mode to disable the GPRS in ditches the Wifi too, but even when it says its connected the IE says cannot find page etc.
Check that you have told your XDA that your network card connects to the internet, and not just your work network. Or that your work network connects to the internet. I'm not entirely sure where it is, but the setting is there somewhere!
I agree with the comment above mine is set set to internet.
The fact that you cant see you AP config page suggest you do not have an IP address for your network. What do you seen on the WLAN manger page? Does it show your AP's SSID and the other settings? From WLAN maanger what do you see when you go to Tools -> Network Cards, Is there a tab for "Wireless" at the bottom? This is where you can set up the XDA settings to atch your AP.
Sorry for the misleading flight mode suggestion.
I'd still suggest going to basic settings on your AP until you get up and running. Its worth the effort it's great being able to surf the web through a decent connection rather than slow, expensive GPRS.
Wayne
one step further forward
ok i can see my ap set up page
but i cant get any further? on pocket pc do you not need the www ?
ie http://google.com instead of http://www.google.com?
steve
The www bit doesn't depend on the pocketpc, if you need it normally with a pc you need it with the xda. its a start that u can see the AP config. Can u access the internet ok from a laptop through the AP ok?
Steve
Did you sort this out? Same problem here - cannot set up wi-fi and GPRS. Will always try and connect to GPRS.
Cheers
Tim
xda2s wifi with the linksys
hmmmmm
eventually sussed out the problem, basically its all down to the bloody wep keys. and a bit of singnal strength too.
Ideally it would be nice if you could preset your pda that once you enter your house it automatically connects to your wifi, wouldnt it, in theroy you should be able to.
But for some strange reason if you dont get a good strong signal to your pda from the linksys, it doesnt see the wep code. and wont automatically connect. to prove this insanity to myself i temp disabled the security on my wifi and my pda auto logged on whenever i got anywhere near the house. mad mad mad.
to overcome this anoyance i have learnt my wep key off by heart and i let my pda auto discover my wifi then manually log on!!!
Related
Hard to believe !
I just got back home and tried to connect my new Blue Angel to my Wifi network and... and... and... it seems that there is no way to connect to an AP not broadcasting the SSID !!!
Can someone confirm this? Why such a restriction? Any workaround (besides broadcasting the SSID) ?
My previous PDA did not have this problem !
Thanks.
You are correct. This does not work with the current driver version (at least the one that shipped with my MDAIII in Germany).
Even if you connect to the AP with the SSID broadcasting and set-up WEP, the link will not be re-established when the SSID broadcast is subsequently turned off on the AP.
I also found that even when SSID BC was on, the MDAIII required frequent resets when turning on Wifi and switching APS. Hopefully they'll supply an updated driver.
BTW: Connecting to non-broadcast SSID does work on an MDAII with a sandisk wifi card using the latest Socket driver (doesn't work with the Sandisk driver).
Cheers,
Martin
Well, it works on my new SPV M2000. My AP has an SSID set, but does not broadcast it. I had to type the correct SSID/WEP key, and it all just worked.
I can connect to my access point, even though it's not broadcasting it's SSID. I think the trick is to name your network the same as the SSID. After turning on WLAN, in the WLAN manager - click tools, then click new connection and name the connection your SSID, and then enter relevant WEP keys, etc.
Be warned that it seems the PDA2K has awful WiFi range, my connection rarely shows over 50%, even in the same room as my access point, and on the next floor of my house, the connection often drops - never had this problem with any laptops or other PPC devices.
@whydidnt and dbarfoot :
Okay, sorry about that. I could not find how to get to the place where you can see the active WLANs APs etc... Seems to work as it used to.
I'll disable again the broadcasting of SSID today to check if it works okay, but I don't expect a big surprise.
I was kind of worried if it really had not been supported properly
Thanks
Hi
I have just got a MDA III from T- Mobile. I have been having a play and I have 2 questions and the manual is as helpful as a kick in the face
1) how do you turn the phone off? Or if I don’t want to be disturbed can I turn just the phone off and leave the PDA running? I have worked out if you press power button twice it puts it in stand by. The only think I can see is if I tab and hold the single strength I can turn on and off flight mode, if on then call go to my voice mail. But I don’t know what flight mode is?
2) Today I have spent most of the day trying to get the wifi working. I have a netgear router that if I have the WEP Encryption enabled I can’t get it to work (either 64 or 128) So I was thinking that if I turn off the WEP Encryption and put an entry in the Wireless Access Filter I could allow it access that way, but I need to know the MAC of the MDA III and it’s name (eg computer name)
Any help would be great
Brian
Flight Mose id a facility that switches off the radio part of phone so no calls can be recived or originated, as required by the airlines. This allows you to use the pda but switches off the phone.
I cant answer your wi-fi query, sorry.
Hi!
I am also trying to find the MAC address of the XDA2s, it doesn't seem to appear anywhere - also we use our work wireless network for access the files AND dchp onto the internet, whereas the wireless setup only allows the option for one or the other?
Its a very complex, cluttered setup isn't it!?
Sorry, above guest is me...
hi,
a little slow reply, you probably already found your answer.. otherwise, here's a link to the answer in another thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=13594&highlight=mac
kind regards,
san
Mac address
Most wireless routers like my netgear dg834g will tell you what wireless devices are in range of the router including the MAC address if each device.
In addition to sans link, be sure your router is broadcasting in both "b" and "g" mode. I had set mine to 'g' to keep the neihborhood rif-raf away and found the Blue Angel is a "b" device. It works great with WPA and I use MAC filtering.
Hi guys, I recently destroyed my XDA2 and got a 2s on the insurance
Bluetooth on WM2003 SE if fair poor, but I managed to upgrade the stack thinger to 3900..... so I'm not completely XDA illiterate.
However, the wifi baffles me! I have access to an unsecured wireless network with internet access, and my 2s will connect to it. When I go on the the internet on my XDA, even with wifi connected it still tries to connect GPRS to use the internet. If I keep clicking cancel, it will load the page (presumably through the wireless network's internet access).
It has become clear that I have no idea what I'm doing with regards to networking. Could someone post a quick guide as to how to set up the wifi (from scratch) so that when it finds an unsecured network it will automatically use it for the internet.
Sorry if there's already a thread on this but I really can't find it. Cheers guys
-Mike
just what i need as well, i have just bought a wifi router so i can use the internet on my xda2s.
using the wireless manger -> wireless LAN manager i get:
STATUS: connected to network
SSID: NETGEAR
TX RATE: AUTO
MODE:INFRASTRUCTURE
CHANNEL 11
BSSID: 00-09-5B-D7-DC-2A
MAC: 00-09-2D-0B-C0-A6
but even when i pull the Ethnet cable (forgot how its spelt) out of the back of the router it still stays connected. so im thinking its more my PC than the xda. the thing is the router came with no software so i have no idea if its connected properly. when i pull this Ethnet cable out of the wifi router o get network cable unplugged. The network card is Broadcom 440x 10/100 Integrated Controller. Which I have never used.
if anyone has a any ideas it would stop me pulling my hair out.
Sorry to hijack this thread
mike freegan said:
However, the wifi baffles me! I have access to an unsecured wireless network with internet access, and my 2s will connect to it. When I go on the the internet on my XDA, even with wifi connected it still tries to connect GPRS to use the internet. If I keep clicking cancel, it will load the page (presumably through the wireless network's internet access).
-Mike
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Mike, I dont think the wifi first and GPRS next works. It doesnt work properly on mine either. If I try a internet access via gprs and a local wifi is readily available, the system does not automatically switch to local wifi.....I think this could be a microsoft issue than a xda issue.
robboy said:
but even when i pull the Ethnet cable (forgot how its spelt) out of the back of the router it still stays connected. so im thinking its more my PC than the xda. the thing is the router came with no software so i have no idea if its connected properly. when i pull this Ethnet cable out of the wifi router o get network cable unplugged. The network card is Broadcom 440x 10/100 Integrated Controller. Which I have never used.
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when u pull out the ethernet cable from the back of the router, can you still surf the net from you xda or PC?? that seems odd. So either you are not connecting to "your" own router, or someone else has a same router with unsecured setup and you were locked onto their service....if you follow what I mean. what happens if you kill the power to your router? you should definitely notice that the wifi service disappear in your xda and PC.
Dont expect a router to disappear by simply unplugging the ethernet cable, if the router is powered up, it will show up on your xda and the PC although obviously there will be no internet access.....
sorry if i wasn't clear. i meant i was still receiving a signal from the wifi router. i could never use the internet on the pda
update:
i can browse my pc files wirelessly using resco explorer, using the standard file explorer i can view the pc files using \\network/c and i have finally been able to connect to activesync.
however i still can not connect to the internet.
Any ideas, from looking on this forum it seems lots of peeps are having problems with this but nobody seems to have the answer
XDA Wi-Fi Solution....It Works!!!!
Hi,
I'm new to the forum and new to XDA2i (presumably XDA2s is same!) ....
I too had many frustrations connecting the wi-fi...but now I've cracked it, here's how.......
On first very first use (or following a hard re-set) device users are prompted to choose “What do you want WLAN to connect to?” The option bullets are ‘Internet’ or ‘Work’….’Work’ should be selected, this will connect them to the nearest WLAN (if this network is WEP encrypted it should be switched to ‘Open’ rather than ‘shared’ as is often the case).
Next prompt asks for any WEP Encryption ‘Pass Key’ to be input, when doing so omit any ‘-‘ between character pairs. Normal start-up should then be completed. Once device is up and running…..
From ‘Start’ pull-down on the ‘Today Screen’ select…. ‘settings’>’connections tab’>’connections icon’>’advanced tab’>’Select Networks’> pull-down ‘My Work Network’ > ‘OK’ out of selections to save and exit.
Go to ‘Wireless Manager’ in programs, select WLAN icon from main screen (which should turn green to show active), then select mini ‘WLAN’ icon from lower toolbar to see the status of the connection, quality of signal etc.
That did it for me......
Cheers
windupmerchant
hi guys
had to reset my bluey.
since doing so i have not been able to reconnect to the internet or browse pages Im being fed the prompt "the page u are lookin for cannot be found!
The bluey shows the wirless connection ias active and has good strength.
some where somehow somethings changed and i have no clue what to do
Is there a kind soul who can list me a wlakthrough so i can get back on the net via my bluey and wireless router
reagrds
Same Here
I am having the same problems. I cannot use the internet on my XDA2s through WIFI or connecting directly through my laptop via Bluetooth.
Any ideas?
I am having the same problem too.
Read this!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=25439
Thunderz2000 said:
hi guys
had to reset my bluey.
since doing so i have not been able to reconnect to the internet or browse pages Im being fed the prompt "the page u are lookin for cannot be found!
The bluey shows the wirless connection ias active and has good strength.
some where somehow somethings changed and i have no clue what to do
Is there a kind soul who can list me a wlakthrough so i can get back on the net via my bluey and wireless router
reagrds
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Sounds like a DHCP problem.
Have a look at your IP and the DNS (and maybe even the gateway) of your PDA and see if it's set correct.
Now do the same with a working system with a internet connection.
In windows, Klik on start and select "Run"
Now type: cmd and klik on OK,
Now type: ipconfig /all
You should see the used IP, Subnet mask, default gateway and DNS servers.
All should be the same on your PDA EXCEPT the last part of your IP!
N
I am having a similar problem.
When I got the set, I set up WEP encryption on it. It didnt work. The connection was live but no browsing.
I then found out I had an incorrect WEP key on the set. I changed it and then it started working.
Now, with the correct wep key and all, its not working for me either.
What can be wrong?
fluke maybe?
well guys it could be a fluke
but this is what i have done and this is what worked for me
1. I completely reset the blue angel (reset switch and off button together)
2. THat reestablished the wifi connection
3. I went to the home page of my router set up and after perusing it a while i went to wireless security and turned it off
4. restarted wifi connection on the bluey and wham bam..straight online
5. I could not remember my wep key so i opted for turning off wireless security although i still have it passowrd protected
Dunno if it will work for others but it has for me and im run ning a buffalo router witht he blue angel
HOme system is broadband
Regards
Well I always managed to connect to my access point to get internet to my BA with WEP enc. enabled. But my problem is I can't get the IE works when I try to connect to my other PC that provides WI-FI as well but this time via Activesync :S why :?
ramram,
If you haven't done it yet, download vxUtil & vxIPconfig; they're very useful for diagnosing connectivity issues.
Hi,
I'm experiencing a weird problem and please let me know if it's only my problem or there is some work around for it.
My phone is SX66 upgraded to 1.40 ROM + 1.13 Radio stack
I can connect Wifi fine whenever I have some phone signal (at work). Whenever I go home where the phone signal is weak then the WIFI couldn't get connected (I believe I set up my home network correctly as I've been using it for so long and configure it for several computer/laptop in house). The network could detect the AP with the SSID but I just couldn't connect to it even I'm sitting right next to the AP.
ROM 1.40
Radio: 1.13
MDD
Are you sure it isn't connecting? What has led you to this conclusion?
Is it possible that it is connecting, but that you just can't browse the internet, in which case check your connection proxy settings. If your work uses a proxy server and you've enabled the pass-through setting in ActiveSync, your network connection may be configured with your work proxy server.
If you're sure you're just not connecting however, things to check are;
WEP/WPA Encryption - If you're using it and have other wireless devices on your network, you no doubt know what to do. If not, say so & I can help you.
DHCP - Does your router/AP support Auto-IP Addressing? Is it enabled? If not, you'll have to configure the WiFi card with a static IP within the same subnet as your router. Ask if you need help.
MAC Filtering - Are you blocking unauthorised MAC Addresses (on your router/ap)?
Interference - Wireless A/V Senders and digital cordless phones are common culprits for RFI. 802.11x APs support multiple channels (most default to channel 11), and you can change these in case of interference. Once again, if you have other WiFi gear already connected with good, strong signals, you can probably discount this one.
Sorry if this is all elementary to you - I don't know how technical you are.
Thanks for your reply.
> Are you sure it isn't connecting? What has led you to this conclusion?
Yes, I've check wireless status on the phone. "Connected to the network", and the AP with DHCP on showed the status of an IP has been allocate to the SX66 mac address. However I dont' really believe it then I check the "Adater", it said network available, and the WIFI icon just didnot show any traffic.
> Is it possible that it is connecting, but that you just can't browse the internet, in which case check your connection proxy settings. If your work uses a proxy server and you've enabled the pass-through setting in ActiveSync, your network connection may be configured with your work proxy server.
I've experience once with the internet connection via Active Sync so I disable the passthrough. Both home and work doesn't have proxy server so I selected not to have any on the phone.
> WEP/WPA Encryption - If you're using it and have other wireless devices on your network, you no doubt know what to do. If not, say so & I can help you.
At work, I have 128 WEP and the connection works fine with the key. At home, I open my network but using MAC filtering to protect it. I have problem with the open network one at home. Perhaps, I will try to setup WEP at home and see if it can work.
The only thing I'm not really clear is the difference between setting "WPA" and "WPA-PSK" from the phone.
> DHCP - Does your router/AP support Auto-IP Addressing? Is it enabled? If not, you'll have to configure the WiFi card with a static IP within the same subnet as your router. Ask if you need help.
Yes, DHCP enable as I don't want to change it back and forth when traveling.
> MAC Filtering - Are you blocking unauthorised MAC Addresses (on your router/ap)?
I do it and I already opened the network and then captured the MAC address into the AP memory. (that's why I think it's connected but will check).
> Interference -
Not really, I'm 6' away from the AP and I don't have any cordless device in my computer room.
> Sorry if this is all elementary to you - I don't know how technical you
are.
No problem, I'd like to learn more about this PDA. The concept is about the same with PC, but the tools to debug is not there. I can't use tracert/traceroute, ifconfig or ping broadcast to really know if I'm the network.
Once again, thanks a lot.
Okay, well it sounds like you're on the right track & know what you're doing.
A useful troubleshooting tool, which gives you tracert, ping, whios, ipconfig and a host of other tools is "vxUtil", which is freeware. I'd give you a URL for downloading it, but I'm on my iMate now (sipping coffee by the Yarra in a Melbourne Cafe - oh what a techno-wanker am I!), but search these forums or Google it and you'll find it.
Now, regarding the proxy thing... These PPCs are a little tricky with their internet settings, and I had to create a different 'connect using...' connection profile, if that makes sense. The important setting within the profile, which is under the Proxy tab, from memory, is "This network connects to the internet".
Now for some reason, if you don't enter in a proxy server here, that check-box doesn't stay checked when you ok your way out. So what I've had to do is go into the advanced area & enter anything in the "wap" proxy, then ok out.
Strange, but it seems to work. Although I always leave my "Private network" on "My Work Network", I can now browse the 'Net through the WiFi AP/Router.
Download vxUtil & see if you can ping your AP, then go from there.
I've worked around the problem by using static IP address instead of depending on DHCP. Thanks to Hitchhiker software. I noticed that it was trying to obtain IP address from DHCP but failed. (The very same DHCP work wells for the rest of my network). Anyway, I will use Hitchhiker to switch IP back and forth if necessary.
Thanks a lot!
MDD
Great to hear you found the problem - well done.