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Not possible to connect to Wifi AP not broadcasting SSID ?

Hard to believe !
I just got back home and tried to connect my new Blue Angel to my Wifi network and... and... and... it seems that there is no way to connect to an AP not broadcasting the SSID !!!
Can someone confirm this? Why such a restriction? Any workaround (besides broadcasting the SSID) ?
My previous PDA did not have this problem !
Thanks.

You are correct. This does not work with the current driver version (at least the one that shipped with my MDAIII in Germany).
Even if you connect to the AP with the SSID broadcasting and set-up WEP, the link will not be re-established when the SSID broadcast is subsequently turned off on the AP.
I also found that even when SSID BC was on, the MDAIII required frequent resets when turning on Wifi and switching APS. Hopefully they'll supply an updated driver.
BTW: Connecting to non-broadcast SSID does work on an MDAII with a sandisk wifi card using the latest Socket driver (doesn't work with the Sandisk driver).
Cheers,
Martin

Well, it works on my new SPV M2000. My AP has an SSID set, but does not broadcast it. I had to type the correct SSID/WEP key, and it all just worked.

I can connect to my access point, even though it's not broadcasting it's SSID. I think the trick is to name your network the same as the SSID. After turning on WLAN, in the WLAN manager - click tools, then click new connection and name the connection your SSID, and then enter relevant WEP keys, etc.
Be warned that it seems the PDA2K has awful WiFi range, my connection rarely shows over 50%, even in the same room as my access point, and on the next floor of my house, the connection often drops - never had this problem with any laptops or other PPC devices.

@whydidnt and dbarfoot :
Okay, sorry about that. I could not find how to get to the place where you can see the active WLANs APs etc... Seems to work as it used to.
I'll disable again the broadcasting of SSID today to check if it works okay, but I don't expect a big surprise.
I was kind of worried if it really had not been supported properly
Thanks

WiFi Problems With 2 Networks

Hi
I have a wifi AP at home, and one at work, Both use WPA-PSK with mac addy auth. SSID Visible cause sh1te WM2003SE OS cant cope with hidden SSID.
Get a whole load of oddities from the XDA IIs. Both SSID's and keys are listed in the wifi setup on the device. What I would expect is that if I switch the device on when I am within range of the AP @ work, it connects to it no fuss, likewise, when I drive home, switch XDA on it connects, no fuss, unfortunately this is not usually the case. The following are in order of likelyness to occur!
Problem 1
Sometimes I switch it on, and it sits there searching for eons, never finds AP. If I disable and then re-enable wifi on the XDA then it connects.
Problem 2
Sometimes, the XDA will tell me that its connected to my home network when I am at work - it isn't!
Problem 3
Sometimes I switch it on, it connects to the AP, but no net connectivity - looking. Using PPC Ipconfig, I see that device never managed to get an IP addy. Stop, start wifi problem resolves
Problem 3
Occasionally, the PPC forgets the shared secret, and I have to re-input it, start/stop wifi before it will connect to the AP
Problem 4
Sometimes, it just BLUNTLY REFUSES to connect to the AP if I do the above. In this case I try all the above with a soft reset as well. If that fails then I need remove all the wifi AP's, soft reset, wait (ages) for it to see a new AP, enter the PSK then it will connect.
It also struggles to connect to other APs (wifi hotspots). Things work a whole lot better when there is just one AP involved (i,e not work and home).
Prob 4 occurs once/week, prob 1 occurs every day, others somewhere between. All problems are of course COMPLETELY UNACCEPTABLE for a product that has been released to the consumer.
Nigel

Hello Veledron,
I've a similar problem: at our company WLAN is set up to reqire WPA and authentication with user certificates. Since it is not possible to import user certificates in Windows Mobile 2003 SE "out of the box" I found out how to do that - it is described here
http://www.jacco2.dds.nl/networking/crtimprt.html
a little bit difficould procedure, but it worked - I can see my personal company certificate in the private-certificate store of my MDAIII.
The problem is, that I can't get a connection. WLAN-Manager says "connected", but I can't receive an IP-address - and in the logs of our Cisco-APs I can't see anything from my PDA. What also is a little bit strange for me: the MDAIII does not remember the setting "authentication with certificates", it always switches to "authentication using PEAP"...
any idea?
thanks
Gerald

Hi Veledron & gekap
I too have similiar problem with my netgear router at home. It seems that everytime it connect to the network it will just keep scanning eventhough it prompt that it already connected. It been 2 days and still i cannot manage to connect
Hopefully there is a solution to this problem.
Regardz
shark

There is.... Turn off AP, or move device to location where it is out of range, remove all WiFi profiles from device, hard reset, turn on router. wait (ages) for device to realize that there is a wifi ap nearby, enter PSK, all is well.
There seems to be no pattern to the WiFi failures, I have to do the above maybe twice a week to get it to connect. When the device gets itsself into a poor state this is the only way.
You cant delete an active profile, and the profile list only appears when wifi is turned on (stupid!) hence the need to turn off the AP.
Nigel

Hi Guys,
I manage to solve my wifi problem,
i just add the XDA IIs mac address to my netgear router plus assigned a reserve ip address based on it mac address and was able to connect successfully with no problem. Hope this solution helps.
Regardz
Sharkz

Hi,
thanks for the tips, but all of them are not a solution for me. I do not have any problems connecting to WLANs using WEP or to unencrypted WLANs, but i guess that there are problems with WPA in the PDA2K. I think the guys of you who have succussful connected to a WLAN using WPA have done that using WPA-PSK, not WPA with TKIP as encryption-method and PEAP or certificates as authentication method over 802.1x.
In our company TKIP is mandatory, and it is necessary to use certificates for authentication - this can be done with either EAP-TLS (so called "smartcard or certificate" in the setup-menu of the PDA-2k) or using PEAP. I've troubleshooted this a lot, and I can't see any authentication packet coming to our Cisco-APs from the PDA2K using this methods (I've turned on advanced logging on the APs to see any little bit...).
I fear the worst, that the WLAN-driver of the PDA2K does not support TKIP! Of course WPA is supportet from Windows 2003 Mobile SE, but in my opinion that is not enough - the card driver down the OS must also support the whole WPA-Standard, and it seems to me that the PDA2K driver does only support WPA-PSK. I found an article which can be an explanation of the problem:
http://www.socketforum.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=2924
So I've 2 questions to you:
.) which driver version is installed on your PDA2Ks? (you can find that in the registry under HKLM\SOFTWARE\Drivers\Wavedev - I've: Common: 0.04.01, Device: 1.06.01 GER, DriverVersion: 0.08.00, Patch: 1.00)
.) has anyone of you ever connected to a WLAN using WPA (not WPA-PSK!)?
thanks
Gerald

XDA2s & Linksys AP

Might be a simple solution and I'm just being dense, same old story dont read the manuals.
But, how do I disable the GPRS default ?
WIFI says its connected, when I try and browse thru the XDA it starts bloody GPRS?
Steve

I think your wifi must not be fully working, sounds like it not being routed to your internet connection.
For me once I have connected to my Linksys AP (WAG54G) if I use Pocket IE or Email it works without trying to connect to GPRS.
You could always test by turning on flight mode to disable the GPRS.
Couple of questions,
1. Can you browse to your AP config page with PIE
2. On the AP config page does it show your XDAIIs as being connected
3. What are your AP settings, does this tie up with what you have set on the XDAIIs
4. Does your AP work with other WiFi devices ie a laptop
5. Ensure your AP is set up for either 802.11b or mixed but not 802.11g only
My general advice wuld be to start with really simple setting on your AP ie no encryption, not mac filtered, broadcast SSID, DHCP enabled etc, once you get going turn on the settings one at a time till you get the set up you require.
Erm... thats probably enough to get started with
Good luck

Ok have done as you suggested,
1.no cant see Ap from pda
2.AP config page doesnt have this facility
3.probably where the confusion starts
4.WiFi works fine with 2 other laptops
5 My netgear mp3 box is 802.11b
The confusion is that when you put the XDA2s in flight mode to disable the GPRS in ditches the Wifi too, but even when it says its connected the IE says cannot find page etc.

Check that you have told your XDA that your network card connects to the internet, and not just your work network. Or that your work network connects to the internet. I'm not entirely sure where it is, but the setting is there somewhere!

I agree with the comment above mine is set set to internet.
The fact that you cant see you AP config page suggest you do not have an IP address for your network. What do you seen on the WLAN manger page? Does it show your AP's SSID and the other settings? From WLAN maanger what do you see when you go to Tools -> Network Cards, Is there a tab for "Wireless" at the bottom? This is where you can set up the XDA settings to atch your AP.
Sorry for the misleading flight mode suggestion.
I'd still suggest going to basic settings on your AP until you get up and running. Its worth the effort it's great being able to surf the web through a decent connection rather than slow, expensive GPRS.
Wayne

one step further forward
ok i can see my ap set up page
but i cant get any further? on pocket pc do you not need the www ?
ie http://google.com instead of http://www.google.com?
steve

The www bit doesn't depend on the pocketpc, if you need it normally with a pc you need it with the xda. its a start that u can see the AP config. Can u access the internet ok from a laptop through the AP ok?

Steve
Did you sort this out? Same problem here - cannot set up wi-fi and GPRS. Will always try and connect to GPRS.
Cheers
Tim

xda2s wifi with the linksys
hmmmmm
eventually sussed out the problem, basically its all down to the bloody wep keys. and a bit of singnal strength too.
Ideally it would be nice if you could preset your pda that once you enter your house it automatically connects to your wifi, wouldnt it, in theroy you should be able to.
But for some strange reason if you dont get a good strong signal to your pda from the linksys, it doesnt see the wep code. and wont automatically connect. to prove this insanity to myself i temp disabled the security on my wifi and my pda auto logged on whenever i got anywhere near the house. mad mad mad.
to overcome this anoyance i have learnt my wep key off by heart and i let my pda auto discover my wifi then manually log on!!!

XDA IIs Wifi and lockups

Does anyone have a problem with their wifi locking up their xda iis? I have bought a linksys router and am getting frequent lockups when using wifi. I am using the shipped O2 rom, thanks

I have no problem at all with Netgear router. Try changing the connection speed setting in the router to the "b" mode only. Hopefully this can solve your problem.

No problems here either I'm afraid. I'm using a Draytek Vigor 2600VG at home and at work there are two of us with XDA IIs using a Linksys BEFDSR41W wireless router and no problems there either.
Sorry! :-(
Try a hard reset (gulp!) and see if you still have problems (Without anything else installed that might be inteferring) otherwise might be a faulty unit perhaps.
--Neil

I second what xanth said, I had the problem where wifi would not turn on, so I hard reset and installed each software back individually the problem was Calligrapher 7.3 did not like being in Storage or Storage Card only in Main memory (go figure)

efjay said:
Does anyone have a problem with their wifi locking up their xda iis? I have bought a linksys router and am getting frequent lockups when using wifi. I am using the shipped O2 rom, thanks
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I use the XDA IIs on a variety of wireless networks and experience problems with an alarming regularity. The most annoying is the fact that the top bar seems to loose functionality, when using wireless!!

I will actually add that I do seem to have problem with the "range" of WiFi.
I need to do more testing, but it doesn't seem to be more than 20m or so before have communication issues/timing out :-( Will have to find out what our walls are made of!!!

I have problems connecting sometimes. I regularly use three routers, Draytek, Buffalo and Belkin. The only time that it locks up is when using skype. The skype problem is a known issue with no cure.
Nigel

I am having a problem where my Siemens SX66 will loose connection to my Microsoft MN700 wireless AP on occasion. -It simply appears as if the Wifi radio shuts itself off.
Weird.....

Wifi has never worked for me. It simply doesn't work in the way nature intended.
The main problem (as far as I can tell) seems to be that it cannot get DNS or IP configuration settings from my router (Belkin 7630) automatically.
It can connect to my wireless network without any hassle, but that's about it. If I enter DNS and IP settings manually it works fine. But this is unworkable if you want to connect to another wireless network.
If I can't sort this out by next week I'm going to sell the unit on eBay. It's been nothing but a pain since I mistakenly bought it in December.
Wifi is a nightmare on this device! I'm going back to Nokia.

I am going to do a hard reset and test to see if i still get any freezes. Anyone know of any software i can use to backup my text messages?

WiFi
Hi guys,
Haven't had too many issues with WiFi over here - standard O2 Asia ROM (with the BT 3500 update).
I'm running a Netgear WG602 @ home with 64bit WEP and a Dlink AP2100 @ work with WPA-PSK. No connectivity problems at either location, both DHCP. It does however take a few minutes to connect, but this is on the odd occasion.
The only frustrating thing with the WiFi is that I have to soft-reset often to turn Wi-Fi on - any ideas? Hopefully O2 will fix this in the next ROM. Other than that, I've had the Nokia 9500, P900/800 and this is by far the best device for the power user.
Just me 2c!
Cheers
cK

Wifi is on all the time on my device, sometimes when I switch the device on while within range of an AP it does not connect. Often switching wifi off and then onn again causes it to connect. If this does not work then I can often go into the network dialogue section, and see the network marked as 'availble' but not connected (why it sometimes does not auto connect I dont know). Tapping connect usually cures. If that does not work then I too need to soft reset.
I hope like you that they fix this cause its damned anoying. I will be interested to see what the Benq P50 is like when its released. I shall get one from expansys to test and ship it back within the 7 days.
Nigel

As for those having problems with specific access points. It is not nessesarily the fault of the blue angel. It seems to me that none of the manufacturers of wireless kit understand the term 'standard' they all seem to have their own take on it, which is why kit from different manufacturers refuses to talk to each other. I am of the opinion that they do it in purpose to lock you into using their client cards with their AP's !!
Try it with some non Belkin kit and see what happens.
Nigel

Well i tried a hard reset and didnt install any apps and tried connecting to wifi again and still got a lockup and loss of connectivity. Im going to swap the router for another make and see what happens

Swapped my linksys router for a D-Link and so far no problems after 2 days. so looks like my problem was my router.

Swapped my linksys router for a D-Link and so far no problems after 2 days. so looks like my problem was my router.

XDA IIi and wifi
I just bought one of these and can't get it connected. I have a netgear wg602 access point. When I finally figured out how to set the IP manually (the 02 xda tech support said it can't be done - maybe they're right ;-)
I now have it saying it's connected, with right IP address. My DNS and gateway are set up for the wireless adapter in network adapters. The signal is average. The XDA says wifi is connected. The access point even says it's authenticated and associated - same as my other stations.
Only problem is, internet explorer doesn't find any web pages - says "The page you are looking for cannot be found" (works fine through GPRS)
Also, terminal services times out trying to connect to an internal IP address (to eliminate DNS as a problem)
So, anyone know how I troubleshoot network problems - it looks like a TCP/IP issue? Can't find ping or arp etc. I've also tried an IP address that I know works on the network.
thanks for any help
Dave

Hi
For ping, ipconfig and stuff, head to http://www.cam.com/windowsce.html
I have had multiple issues trying to get wifi working reliably. It still fails now, but there are a few tricks to get it working again. Most of my wifi issues have been due to regular use of three AP's [email protected] and [email protected] along with GPRS and VPN.
To start with I suggest setting all the ****e in connections (internet and home network to 'My ISP' then goto your wifi setup, network adapters, and tell it that the wireless card connects to the internet. Now, tap ok, and goto tools, network cards, tap the active connection (it must already be connected) and ensure that its set to internet.
Next soft reset the thing, and wait for it to connect to yr wifi. Now, use the ipconfig tool and ping tool from the above site to check that all is OK. Check that its got the default gateway right and a sensible LAN IP.
I have found on occasion that I can be connected via wifi, but that the device is still trying to talk using an old IP allocated by gprs which means nothing to my lan! IPconfig will show if all is OK.
Whoever wrote the whole of the networking system (and its terrible gui's) on windows mobile wants shooting. I usually have 2 VPN profiles setup under my work network. If I leave it set to that, and use wifi from my lan to connect to the internet all is fine. However if I try and access a local server, the damned thing starts trying to connect a vpn (it aint inteligent enough to work out that the IP I asked it to connect to is local).
I have been trying to find a setting for all this networking rubbish that allows me to do *everything* without reconfiguring each time - to no avail.
Another thing to note is that you cant send/receive MMS messages while wifi is connected (more stupidity), it tries to connect to the MMS server using the wifi connection, and the telco blocks it cause it wants to charge you for sending MMS over GPRS. Only solution is to disconnect wifi, send MMS then reconnect wifi!!!
Nigel

No problems with WiFi for me
Hmm I'm using an O2 Asia Rom as well.. and my wifi manager seems to automatically create "settings" for each AP it detects and I seem to have no problems connecting at all... been using WiFi around my house since the first day i got it..
i am using a Linksys Wireless 802.11b router..
btw I am new here.. finally able to register!
How's everybody doing?

Cannot turn off IEEE 802.1x
Has anyone had problems unchecking the 'IEEE 802.1x netwrok access control' checkbox???
I uncheck it, but then when I go back to the screen (click on the connection | then select 802.1x tab at the bottom) it has checked itself again!
The XDA IIs does not save the setting - it just keeps re checking itself 02 help have been no use - they sent me an instruction manual and it even says in one of the step 'uncheck IEEE check box'
Im am using a netgear wirelesss router and have also tried on a d-link
Sugestions - is anyone else having this problem??

WIFI problem on M2000 - plz help

Hi,
maybe something im missing here but i was at a friends house the other day and he has a wireless access point set up (open with no encrption set up yet ...just for testing purposes). so basically he is broadcasting his SSID. I turned my wifi on my m2000 and it picked up his access point and showed me that my phone had connected, with the WIFI signal enabled...however i could not browse or use the net which tells me that i was not picking up an IP address...wats going on here? any clues?
thanks for any help
K

kadabra said:
Hi,
maybe something im missing here but i was at a friends house the other day and he has a wireless access point set up (open with no encrption set up yet ...just for testing purposes). so basically he is broadcasting his SSID. I turned my wifi on my m2000 and it picked up his access point and showed me that my phone had connected, with the WIFI signal enabled...however i could not browse or use the net which tells me that i was not picking up an IP address...wats going on here? any clues?
thanks for any help
K
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if the AP's DHCP sevice is off,you can't get the IP automatically

The DHCP is dodgy on my belkin router, so I have each PC and my BA set up to use a specific IP address, rather than rely on the iffy DHCP.
You may find you need to input a DNS if you do it this way.. just copy one off a working PC

Forgive me if I am talking utter c#$* but if you have established a connection have you not been allocated an IP via DCHP? Just taking a step back from router problems, when setting up the wireless connection did you set up for work or internet profile?

simjo, what you say is prefectly logical, but I have seen cases (as the thread poster was suggesting) where a connection has been created, but no IP addy issued. At these times, no internet access etc is possible. i.e. connection is said to be active, but it is useless.
My solution for this problem was as I posted above, dont bother with DHCP. Set IP addresses manually.

I have a similar problem on a new M2000 (so I'm probably overlooking something)
I can connect my PC and laptop to my router (D-Link 614) on WiFi without any problem
The M2000 can "see" the WiFi but there is no connection
When I try to view pages via GPRS there is no response
When I try MSN Messenger, same again there is no response
I've tried several soft and hard reboots, but no difference
I also find switching the "phone" on is very difficult as I am warned to "The phone is off. Do you want to turn Wireless on"
I then turn Flight Mode on, but am then warned that Orange GPRS cannot connect
I have managed to make some test phone calls, but the menus seem to be taking me round in circles...
Any advice welcome

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