Hi everybody,
I can think of half a dozen ridiculous applications for a wi-fi connection between my xda2s and my PC, but I'm having problems determining what I need to buy on the PC side: access point, network adapter, wireless network card??
What do you think is the best/cheapest option?
Thanks,
Camed
i think that access points i'm not 100 sure cant connect to other devics and only be connected to from others
and i'm not really sure what you mean the difference between these 2 options are unless you mean network adapter to connect to the access point
" network adapter, wireless network card"
If you should choose to buy an access point, go for a AP with router funtionality.
The price is (should be) allmost the same..
This will allow you to share your broadband (if you got one) connection with both your XDA and your PC.
The phone via standard TP cable (or WLAN), and the phone through WLAN.
The way these will interact with each other, is just like two computers in a network (TCP/IP protocoll).
As for the network adapter and wireless card, these are the same thing..
The only difference is the way you connect them to your computer. (PCI, PCMCIA, USB, etc..)
With these you will be able to use Ad-Hoc, wich is just like a crossed TP cable between two computers.. Allso using the TCP/IP protocol..
As for price, a USB WLAN device should be the cheapest, at $30-$50..
The WLAN router is the most expencive component, priced from $100-$200 i guess..
DISCLAIMER: The prices are estimates! They may vary a lot! And they are based upon the 802.11g (54mbps) standard. 802.11b (11mbps) may be cheaper..
I have a wireless router (with 4 port lan) connected directly to my cable modem. It provides a lot of flexibility. For example, into the router I have plugged my main PC (upstairs), and a Bluetooth Access Point. Downstairs I use my wireless laptop and am able to be online through my broadband connection. I have an XDA II which does not have WiFi, but no matter, because I can use the bluetooth access point to get online. If any friends or family come with their PCs or Laptops, I just plug in either a wireless PCMCIA card into their laptops or a USB wireless adapter into their PCs and they too can get online. I also have a wireless printer server, which is great because I can print from any PC without the requirement of a different PC being logged in.
I can suggest you a bit more advanced solution, specially if you have dedicated internet channel with ethernet cabble on your side (e.g. ADSL modem with ethernet connector or even TP cabble going to you from provider): just buy gateway with access point built in.
An additional benefits of this approach are permanent internet availability via WiFi even if desctop PC is powered off and easy creation of secured SOHO (Small Office or Home Network) infrastructure.
There are a number of such devices. Most of them will provide you with similar functionality:
- one "WAN" ethernet port (where you connect twisted pair from your provider or ADSL);
- usually 4 "LAN" ports where you may connect all your home computers or just make network outlets in different rooms
- WiFi access point built in
- DHCP server for LAN clients headache'less connectivity, NAT server, Firewall (WAN to LAN, LAN to WAN, WLAN to LAN etc) with IP and URL filtering and different tunelling presets, DNS proxy and a lot of flexibility in creation of different virtual servers.
- almost all firewall settings may be scheduled allowing you to restrict the time your family wil play online games
- supports modern strong WiFi encryption and authorisation with WPA or WPA/SK protocols
For example I can suggest Asus WL 500g (which is I bought)
http://www.asuscom.ru/products/communication/wireless/wl-500g/overview.shtml
Cheap enough ($90), flexible, stylish and with number of additional features. With firmware sources available. Print server and FTP/Webcam server (optional)
But: 802.11b/g only, have no built-in battery for internal clock working while device is turned off. Internal clock are automatically sinchronized with external time server when it become available after power-on.
Or another solution, D-Link DI-784 (my office WiFi infrastructure based on this device):
-802.11 a/b/g
-have built-in AC-independent clock
-a bit more powerfull transiver
but more expensive ($200)
http://www.dlink.com/products/?pid=299
As I said above there are a number of such devices on the market, but I deal with these two only...
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Hi!
Having upgraded to Blue Angel I'm selling my Wi-Fi Card.
Here are the specs:
All you need is a Pocket PC 2003 (running Windows Mobile 2003) with an SDIO slot running SDIO Now!, and you can use the SDIO WLAN Card to access the Internet, email, and corporate servers.
Now you can access enterprise and public Wi-Fi (IEEE 802.11b) Wireless LAN systems from your Pocket PC 2003 using the smallest and lightest form factor available. Socket’s SDIO Low Power Wireless LAN Card card is the industry’s first SDIO card that lets you wirelessly connect to Wi-Fi networks to access the Internet, email, and corporate servers.
Extend the reach and usefulness of your company’s wireless LAN resources. From conference rooms, training centers, and cafeterias, you are free to work, teach or study wherever you’re most productive.
The ability to work while on the road or away from the office or school is becoming more important to today’s mobile user. Public hot spots, such as coffee shops, hotels, shopping malls and airports, are offering wireless Internet access based on the 802.11b standard.
People who need to share information can meet anywhere, bringing only their mobile computers, and wirelessly transfer files either as a broadcast to all members or peer-to-peer.
The card works with a variety of WLAN security protocols. You can use the WLAN card with an open system or encrypted network with 40/64-bit or 128-bit WEP keys. The card is also compatible with 802.1x networks with EAP-TLS or PEAP, so you can connect securely without eavesdropping.
Socket designed the SDIO Low Power WLAN Card to be Battery Friendly®. When your Pocket PC is connected to a wireless LAN, the WLAN card is in idle (listening) mode about 90% of the time, with occasional short bursts of data being transmitted/received. Plus, Socket’s SDIO WLAN software offers a Power Save Mode. Using Socket’s card means that you’ll get the maximum possible battery life from your Pocket PC.
Thanks,
Chris
Would this work with the XDA Mini (magician) ?
If yes, How much do you want for it ?
It's on Ebay...
I have no idea about the magician... It worked on my Himalaya...
It depends if your SD slot is "SDIO now" enabled
Or just try on expansys.com and see if it is indicated a possible accesory.
It's on ebay:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=5170986595&ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT
heya,
i use use cardexportII to convert my P3300 into an USB flash disk. and on their web they got win98 drivers in case you want to connect it on an older system.
ok, so i wanted to know:
is there any way, a software or whatever, to connect my P3300 to an existing wifi, plug it with USB to a computer and the computer use it as wifi-adapter/access point to use that network?
i've read about people trying something like that but using bluetooth rather than USB to connect the mobile to the PC, i can use that too if you know how, but in the end what i really need is:
PC->USB->P3300->WIFI NETWORK
because i allways carry a little usb cable with me, and i don't want to carry an BT dongle around if i can avoid it.
and as we are at it, but not really important for me... would it be possible to convert my P3300 to a bluetooth dongle?
PC->USB->P3300->BT NETWORK/DEVICES
oh BTW, my P3300 has WM6 (official HTC release)
thx in advance for any help.
OH LOL, forgot to mention: all this WITHOUT ACTIVESYNC please.
not possible then?
For security reasons the device does not allow simultaneous USB and WiFi connections.
MaskedMarauder said:
For security reasons the device does not allow simultaneous USB and WiFi connections.
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if i am not wrong, i have read somewhere it was possible to share a WIFI connection through BT or viceversa... so why would USB not be possible, when it's even more secure than BT?
i am getting a little sick of microsoft and their "security" crap... first they disable activesync over wifi and now this? did they never hear of VPN or the like?
/sigh
zandadoum said:
if i am not wrong, i have read somewhere it was possible to share a WIFI connection through BT or viceversa... so why would USB not be possible, when it's even more secure than BT?
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You can share the phone's GPRS connection, not WiFi. This is so you can use the device as a modem for your laptop etc.
You can not use bluetooth or WiFi when you have a USB connection because you could use it to hook up to two different networks at once, one with the USB cable and one with the WiFi. And then move data across the two networks. Which is a network security risk.
That risk would deter customers from buying the device as it could be used as a back door into the network. An employee plugs into the corporate network with the device (which is 'trusted' and has no password required) then an accomplice connects WiFi to the device and has free entry.
A USB wireless dongle can be bought for £10. Perhaps using that to set up an ad-hock network could be a solution for you?
MaskedMarauder said:
You can share the phone's GPRS connection, not WiFi. This is so you can use the device as a modem for your laptop etc.
You can not use bluetooth or WiFi when you have a USB connection because you could use it to hook up to two different networks at once, one with the USB cable and one with the WiFi. And then move data across the two networks. Which is a network security risk.
That risk would deter customers from buying the device as it could be used as a back door into the network. An employee plugs into the corporate network with the device (which is 'trusted' and has no password required) then an accomplice connects WiFi to the device and has free entry.
A USB wireless dongle can be bought for £10. Perhaps using that to set up an ad-hock network could be a solution for you?
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where did you get all this info, that it is not possible due security reasons? as you mention, i could use a wifi dongle. and if i wanted to "hack" a network, i could use a laptop connected to a wired lan, and use it's wifi or a wifi dongle to do EXACTLY the same, so the security excuse (wherever you read it) is total bull****.
i want this, because i could just carry a wifi dongle in my bag, but if i could do it with the p3300 usb cable i always carry around, i would have one item less to worry around.
i really don't get all this security nonsense... in first place it needs a wep or wpa key to even connect to a wifi and in second place it's nothing i could not do with a laptop already, i don't understand the fuzz.
i asked the same thing on a microsoft mobile developer blog and the guy just started evading my questions and not responding at all.
You can share a 3G network to a laptop via an HTC Touch Pro2 but, near as I can tell, you can't share a Wi-Fi connection? ie. if my laptop doesn't, itself, have a Wi-Fi connection, can I use my cellphone's Wi-Fi connectivity to connect to a Wi-Fi network?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=630337
Posts 4 and 7
Searching is the key
orb3000 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=630337
Posts 4 and 7
Searching is the key
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I think that he's wanting to use the phone as a wifi adapter (i.e. wireless NIC) for his laptop, rather than using the phone as a wifi router. In other words...his laptop does't have built-in wifi at all, so he wants to use his phone to accomplish that rather than an external USB stick, card, etc. I've been curious for a while if that's even possible, but haven't come across any methods yet...
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I think that he's wanting to use the phone as a wifi adapter (i.e. wireless NIC) for his laptop, rather than using the phone as a wifi router. In other words...his laptop does't have built-in wifi at all, so he wants to use his phone to accomplish that rather than an external USB stick, card, etc. I've been curious for a while if that's even possible, but haven't come across any methods yet...
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That's exactly it. Most places I go to have ethernet cables I can plug into but, from time to time, I find myself at a place that just has 802.11b/g access points. Rather than carry a PCMCIA wireless adapter around with me so that I might use it once every blue moon, I'd just assume use something I already have on me - my cellphone - as a wireless adapter.
Alternatively, if I, at a future date, got a laptop with a built in wireless adapter, it'd still be nice to be able to have two wireless adapters. ie. maybe the 802.11g network I'm connecting to uses WPA and I'm trying to connect with a Nintendo DS that only supports WEP networks. I could, in theory, use my cell phone as an adapter to the WPA network and turn my laptop into a WEP access point.
I'd say there are several use cases for being able to use a cellphone as an adapter to an 802.11g network, although I will grant that they're probably fairly niche use cases.
I am also interested in this as it would allow me to use my laptop for free internet at places like starbucks where my Tilt 2 gets to connect for free.
Internet>>> ATT Wifi >>> Tilt 2 >>>> Laptop
I too would love this functionality. If anyone knows of an app/registry hack/whatever that enables this, please post the details here.
shdwphnx said:
I too would love this functionality. If anyone knows of an app/registry hack/whatever that enables this, please post the details here.
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WMWifiRouter (not free) has this functionality. Along with the standard features like cellular to WiFi and cellular to USB, WMWifiRouter also does more exotic connections like WiFi to USB. It's €15, but it's an application with a lot of functionality and the developer who created it is a very highly respected XDA member, who provides many of his other products for free.
DaveTheTytnIIGuy said:
WMWifiRouter (not free) has this functionality. Along with the standard features like cellular to WiFi and cellular to USB, WMWifiRouter also does more exotic connections like WiFi to USB. It's €15, but it's an application with a lot of functionality and the developer who created it is a very highly respected XDA member, who provides many of his other products for free.
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Awesome, thanks Dave. I'd been thinking about buying it anyway in place of the (very basic) free wifi router app I found on here too, and now it sounds like a no-brainer
Just did it
I just did this very setup earlier with my HTC Tilt 2. I had the phone connected to my Wi-Fi network, and turned off my Wi-Fi on my laptop. Connected the phone to the laptop using the USB cable, and selected "Use as modem" and it was an automatic process...i'm running Windows 7 on my laptop..if that helps..it just worked.
Hi all, first post so sorry if it's in the wrong place! I seem to have an issue connecting to my Fire Stick via adbfire. Adbfire won't connect to my Stick (Followed all steps required) and I have a feeling that it could be because I'm connected to my university Halls of Residence WiFi which is a shared network; is it possible that because of this the IP Address on my laptop won't match the one with the Stick? If so, is there any possible workaround to be able to get Kodi on the device?
Many thanks!
John
Hi,
Most universities employ Layer 2 client isolation, so that one wireless client is not able to communicate with another client. You will likely need to bring in your own router and use your own wireless SSID (against most university network AUP) in order to connect and push things via ADB.
Easiest workaround I can think of is to create your own wifi network, either by using your own router (even without an active internet connection, there are cheap ones available) or you could try a laptop/desktop or a smartphone.
If you have a wired ethernet connection or get a router which can connect to another wifi network, you may be able to get away with your own router all the time, but it's a gamble depending on your uni (mine apparently claimed that they would ban people, but I've been using a cable router without any problems so far (touch wood)).
If you go the path of your own router, be sure you hide the SSID.
The Cisco APs we used, at the university I used to work at, had a dubious "feature" that would actively search out "rogue" SSIDs and would continuously associate/deassociate with them in order to overload the AP and cause them to lock up. They didn't want students using other public available SSIDs for fear of privacy concerns.
Is there any way for the fire TV to connect to it? My university uses it, and I was wondering if I could connect, but the access point is not showing up
Can´t look now because I´m not at home but wasn´t there a setting for a manual AP setup where you could enter the SSID by yourself?
Some organizations may keep a second network available for legacy devices like printers, XBoxes, and older machines. You can check with your university's tech support to see how you can add your device to the list of allowed access for that network.
This isn't a guarantee that this network exists for you, but most enterprise and even some residential-grade equipment have this capability.
Otherwise, you might be able to find a router or range extender that can understand and connect to WPA2-Enterprise to work around this. In a pinch, an old laptop with two wifi cards or a wifi Ethernet port should suffice.
Or you may want to scrap wifi and run an Ethernet cable to your dorm's jack or personal switch.
Related topics found through Googling, but no further help:
https://www.reddit.com/r/cordcutters/comments/2sv1ov/best_option_for_college_wifi/
https://www.reddit.com/r/fireTV/comments/2mydhh/fire_tv_stick_can_you_use_a_wireless_network_that/
Thanks the responses, but neither of them works well for me. there is a secondary unsecured wifi network, but it is just too slow to use, especially for streaming videos. I sideloaded a wifi APK onto it, and the networks DO show up, but there is no way to enter the login information (you need both a username and password.) Anyone know of an app that can do that?