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Looks like wm2005 still not very stable, a lot of programs still not working.
For example, Xbackup, set as ringtone or Monster Chinese, etc.
well alot of programs required new versions when 2003SE came out as well
ttseng said:
Looks like wm2005 still not very stable, a lot of programs still not working.
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Using it on my Imate for a month or more and no problem so far and no lock-ups like there were on WM2003SE
I think the title of this thread is misleading... :?
The fact that it does not run several applications or crashes is because:
1.- This version is not final
2.- It's not compatible because of it's very nature, IT'S A NEW OS!!!
The same happened when we upgraded our PCs to Windows XP don't you remember?
New versions will start to come up eventually, and even if you don't see any advances "right-out-of-the-box" it's because the main improvements on this OS reside behind the scenes, so Programmers will start to develop new and exciting apps that take advantage of the new features and APIs.
For me Windows Mobile 5.0 has been very stable even with the very first version that Buzz, Toe and the gang which had very limited memory resources I had no stability problems whatsoever.
There are limitations of course, (like no MMS, mediocre video camera, sms problems, etc) but eventually Microsoft OR our very own developers will take care of that!
So, BE PATIENT!!!!! :wink:
Hi,
Using it for 3 days in my Qtek 2020 and no problem at all.
Even Jabra250 works fine, when in 2003SE was difficult to setup.
About software that don't work, we must wait until new versions come out...
I'm sure when you update you computer from NT to W2K you has software that didn't work and had to buy new versions, so why should be different here?
Be patient.... Mobile5 is ok for now.
AF
if only we can fix the camera it would be Superb
Xeon said:
if only we can fix the camera it would be Superb
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if only we could run it on magician
some0NE said:
Xeon said:
if only we can fix the camera it would be Superb
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if only we could run it on magician
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i double that
Rayan & all the rest are right!!!
I can't agree less to what Rayan wrote.
It's a new OS and a beta for that matter (check out Goras thread on "WM2005 that I can share"), If I'm not mistaken it's not also intended for Himalaya, judging on the memory problems just solved(!) by Buzz, toenailed, XdaJojo, mamaich & all the other contributors as well.
Personally in my opinion its a lot 'solid' than the WM2003 & SE since it has to crash yet on my xda II, as mentioned by Rayan even the initial release of the OS with limited memory was stable.
The problems with the apps like backup & camera are being solved one-by-one, MMS which doesn't even start before is now working (check out the threads on WM2005 in the forum).
Even now, the benefits of using the OS in terms of performance, stability & looks far outweighs its limitations (in my humble opinion) just be patient & leave it to the WIZARDS (Buzz, toenailed, XdaJojo, etc. etc. etc).
Besides, hey ttseng this is the xda-developers forum & we all are having fun testing, tweaking, & breathing new life to our "soon to be outlawed" XDA II ....... if not for the WIZARDS in the forum !!!!! Notice the request for the OS on the other xda models, aren't we lucky we have the WiZARDS working on the HIMA? :lol:
Cheers!
works flawlessly on XDA2 Himalaya!!!!!!!!
best os and most stable one ive come across ,wm200se never really happy but this WM2005 is and has been stable without a single hard reset or rest since install.even self configured the o2email and hotmail!! took the o2 uk config & connections setup file from a XDA2s_1-12-178-WWE_UK_Extended_ Rom.
Is there more than one version of WM2005 kicking about?
I successfully installed WM2005 on my XDA II, but I couldn't get many 3rd party apps to install on it. So I was surprised to see screenshots with certain utilities running ok.
I was wondering if there is more than one version of it floating about on the net. The one I installed was found on these forums, but I have recently downloaded another off usenet.
They are both himalaya.
I am sure a non-beta copy will rear its head on here sooner rather than later (I hope!)
Cam
this version is in the ftp section ,the rom has a file name of
wm2k5_XDA2_HIMALAYA_O2_fullRAM.rar
Yep!
That's the one!
That would make both copies I have the same.
Is this a late BETA or even an RTM version?
Now that the OS has been officially released I am guessing it's a race for someone to post the released version ;-)
the official full version is released?
wow!
so when can we have it for download here?
i am planning to put off my upgrade till the full version comes out.
currently i am on the win2003se which i aint very happy with!
plz advise...
thanx everybody.
It out but you cant get it.
I have a friend who is a manger in Microsoft. I sent the MS link of the offical release and asked if it can be obtained from the internal web software store. At the moment it cant and I feel it will also never be the case (2003 the end user could never buy).
So we are back to the carriers and if they will ship 2005 as an upgrade for ood devices or only on new (MDA XDA IV).
Dont think one needs to be a rocket scintist to answer that, was not one of the devices never shipped with 2003, the way I remember it it was buz that did a Chines to English translation.
So at least w on the BA side have to wait untill something gets leaked.
A little help with WM2005 upgrade please!!!!!!!
I see that most people have upgraded to WM2005 without much trouble, but not me!! I am with o2 and I've just upgraded and I can't us GPRS (it keeps trying to dial 193.113.200.195 and then drops the conx even though the IP is entered in the APN section) I can't run Worldmate pro (not compatable), TOMTOM 3 (need to upgrade to ver 4.4) pick up email etc etc.
Could I have the details that you need to enter into your XDA to connect to o2 network via GPRS so that I can access hotmail, messenger, MMS, Internet etc etc
I hope you can help as I don't want to downgrade to the old windows version.
i can send u a O2 customisation cab file if u need ,however your phone must b on contract with O2UK not payg or orange etc..
Yes Please!!
That'll be great. yes I am with O2 contract.......
where is the awesome rom !!! please
iam running w2005 in my XD2..but still MANY applications cant be installed..and i was surprised to see the screenshot (above) with many applications runing ..BUT i couldnt find the ROM...i found only the one for XDA2s..."XDA2s_1-12-178-WWE_UK_Extended_ Rom" actually is a zipped file with no rom inside..just many cab files ..can anyone help me please...thanks guys
I'm thinking to upgrade my BA (Qtek 9090) to WM2005.
Few things i would like to know. Is it safe procedure? Or is it possible to b0rk my device for good?
Another thing is that is there a site where you could find programs or utilities or WM2005 features that doesn't work?
If you have to ask, you shouldn't do it. I have been working with computers in all shapes and forms for 20 years, and it was pretty difficult to get this right.
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If you have to ask, you shouldn't do it.
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Have to agree with Mastif with this.. I have converted twice now from WM2003SE to WM5 and then converted back again.. Personally, provided you follow the advice in Wiki, you shouldn't have a problem but..
If your BA is working exactly as you want it to, then why change.. Others on here have changed because they fancy a new look on their BA whereas some have changed for the improved BT performance, etc etc..
WM2003SE with the latest 1.42 T-Mobile Rom (and ExtROM) are perfectly good enough for me right now.. It does what I need it to..
I guess what I'm saying is that if you're not comfortable changing to WM5 and there's no real need then why do it..?
Hope this answer helps..? I'd hate to see a post on here form yourself with the title "Help - I've Borked my BA!" :lol:
Cheers,
Infra,
Well i was using WM5 since it was released for BA. Just a couple of days back i shifted to WM2003SE because there was no radio service. However within 1 day of my usage it got soft reseted at least 10 times. I know that some might say that the softwares installed were not correct. However the same programs are installed WM5. It has not soft reset even once. For me i think that WM5 is more stable even in this leaked version. You might loose some of your favorite SW if it has not been updated for WM5.
Just my $0.02.
Best Regards,
Hemant.
Hi guys!
Just a thougt and input from everybody after exposure of variety of ROMs.
How is individual's experience with his favourite rom and why and what does he feels about other roms.
Let's start
I have experienced Imate, Orange, Qtek, O2 and latestly Dopod ROMs and found
Imate as standard
Qtek as little fast
Orange as TURTLE even in this new environment
O2 as stable
Dopod currently using.
what's your experence???????????
My personal experience -
Dopod - using now. Stable and fast wake-up.
O2 - rate it the same as Dopod.
Qtek - slightly faster but somehow, it hanged more often vs. Dopod and O2.
Imate - the base but most stability issues for me comparing to above.
would you mind giving the version numbers u used. I cant figure out with ones to use!
Dopod - very happy with it, also on the Wizard
could someone point me to a link for the dopod 900 rom? I would be very thankful!
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could someone point me to a link for the dopod 900 rom? I would be very thankful!
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Here it is.
Cheers
hrb
ftp://xda:[email protected]/Universal/Extended_ROMs/Dopod_900_WWE_ExtendedROM_1.30.230.zip
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JPH said:
could someone point me to a link for the dopod 900 rom? I would be very thankful!
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Here it is.
Cheers
hrb
ftp://xda:[email protected]/Universal/Extended_ROMs/Dopod_900_WWE_ExtendedROM_1.30.230.zip
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Thanks for the help, I will give it a try.
JPH
Well, ever since got my exec 1 week ago, been crashing in on 3 Roms so far.
Qtek - Currently using, no hang so far.
O2 - Slightly slower compared to Dopod and Qtek.
Dopod - Stable.
I have tried the Jasjar, O2, and QTEC ROMs. I prefer the QTEC ROM because it has both A2DP and AKU2 support. I have been using it for more than a month, no crashes, all is working fine, and stable on my O2 Exec.
I believe any type of hanging in any ROM is due to a 3rd party app that you have installed. As long as you can sort it out, then it will work as you expected.
Does the new Dopod ROM have both A2DP and AKU2 support?
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I have tried the Jasjar, O2, and QTEC ROMs. I prefer the QTEC ROM because it has both A2DP and AKU2 support. I have been using it for more than a month, no crashes, all is working fine, and stable on my O2 Exec.
I believe any type of hanging in any ROM is due to a 3rd party app that you have installed. As long as you can sort it out, then it will work as you expected.
Does the new Dopod ROM have both A2DP and AKU2 support?
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Nope, hence i am hanging on e qtek on my exec :wink:
Flashed my out-of-date Vodafone ROM with the latest i-mate WWE ROM with the latest radio ROM. The i-mate ROM is quite handy as it sets up the GPRS and MMS settings for you after a fresh flashing. Very stable too!
I am totally agree with ctklcmd.
All ROMs are almost the same.
No speed differences. It depends just for your moods and 3rd party apps using. With stability is the same opinion.
I tried all of ROMs with all of RadioROMs.
Almost - if not totally - the same the last ones.
Differences are usually in extendedRoms.
Biggest help would be another 64MB RAM.
It is the main fuc*ed up thing in Universal.
Re: EXPERINCES with Different ROMs (Imate, O2, orange, Qtek
rikram said:
Hi guys!
Just a thougt and input from everybody after exposure of variety of ROMs.
How is individual's experience with his favourite rom and why and what does he feels about other roms.
Let's start
I have experienced Imate, Orange, Qtek, O2 and latestly Dopod ROMs and found
Imate as standard
Qtek as little fast
Orange as TURTLE even in this new environment
O2 as stable
Dopod currently using.
what's your experence???????????
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Dopod and Qtek almost same , very fast , as I know Dopod had share with Qtek same as HTC had share with Dopod , so you think HTC will not make good rom for Dopod and Qtek ?
I tried a lot.. I noticed a difference in
Radio 1.11 - Bluetooth headset seemed to sound better
My MDA is at the shop, so I dont knwo the other ROMs I am using.
I know I mixed and am running the latest T-mobile Extended Rom, but the latest Windows ROM.
What I notice a real difference with are the bundled programs in teh extended ROM.
The current T-Mobile Extended ROM (I Think its the T-mobile one), has Voice Commander that I didnt have in other ROMS. So it can take voice commands to dial which I think is cool, its not overly accurate and in my car I have to almost scream to get it right.. but if your by yourself in the car, screaming the numbers is safer than trying to dial.
Does anyone have a list of which ROMs have which programs?
BTW. while I am at it.. what the heck is Enroller? Does anyone have a list of the useless programs we can safely delete if we unlock the Extended ROM.
I dont want to go messing with the unlocking the ROM and screwing up something to reinstall but I would love to get some programs from some ROMS I have tried and put them in better ROMs.
I.E. I dont want to lose Voice Commander, but know I have only seen it on one or two ROMS. so if I could save it to my computer and reinstall it on a ROM without it that would be great.
Dopod 900... hmmmmm.
Is that an english version? I thought dopod roms are chinese or something like that
ALSO does it have both aku2 and a2dp? is pdf reader included. I am rightnowon the latest qtek rom and was under the impression that on my dutch mda pro I should only install the european roms as they are wwe.
thanx in advance
Churchill said:
Dopod 900... hmmmmm.
Is that an english version? I thought dopod roms are chinese or something like that
ALSO does it have both aku2 and a2dp? is pdf reader included. I am rightnowon the latest qtek rom and was under the impression that on my dutch mda pro I should only install the european roms as they are wwe.
thanx in advance
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Yes,Dopod had WWE & CHT rom you can find WWE rom in ftp , only had auk2 dont havd a2dp yet
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I tried a lot.. I noticed a difference in
Radio 1.11 - Bluetooth headset seemed to sound better
My MDA is at the shop, so I dont knwo the other ROMs I am using.
I know I mixed and am running the latest T-mobile Extended Rom, but the latest Windows ROM.
What I notice a real difference with are the bundled programs in teh extended ROM.
The current T-Mobile Extended ROM (I Think its the T-mobile one), has Voice Commander that I didnt have in other ROMS. So it can take voice commands to dial which I think is cool, its not overly accurate and in my car I have to almost scream to get it right.. but if your by yourself in the car, screaming the numbers is safer than trying to dial.
Does anyone have a list of which ROMs have which programs?
BTW. while I am at it.. what the heck is Enroller? Does anyone have a list of the useless programs we can safely delete if we unlock the Extended ROM.
I dont want to go messing with the unlocking the ROM and screwing up something to reinstall but I would love to get some programs from some ROMS I have tried and put them in better ROMs.
I.E. I dont want to lose Voice Commander, but know I have only seen it on one or two ROMS. so if I could save it to my computer and reinstall it on a ROM without it that would be great.
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Just to know.
Pdf reader, voice command utility, enroller... are not in the ExtendedROM but there are shortcuts there for them.
Whole programs are Skype and an antivirus software which are few Megs. Most of the .cab files in the ExtendedROM are just some kB-s. Those cannot be a pdf-reader program or a voice commander which need megabytes. Secondly it is not just "it cannot be" but it is not. I looked in all of the cabfiles. Most of them are just shortcuts and registry values.
cdgoin said:
I tried a lot.. I noticed a difference in
Radio 1.11 - Bluetooth headset seemed to sound better
My MDA is at the shop, so I dont knwo the other ROMs I am using.
I know I mixed and am running the latest T-mobile Extended Rom, but the latest Windows ROM.
What I notice a real difference with are the bundled programs in teh extended ROM.
The current T-Mobile Extended ROM (I Think its the T-mobile one), has Voice Commander that I didnt have in other ROMS. So it can take voice commands to dial which I think is cool, its not overly accurate and in my car I have to almost scream to get it right.. but if your by yourself in the car, screaming the numbers is safer than trying to dial.
Does anyone have a list of which ROMs have which programs?
BTW. while I am at it.. what the heck is Enroller? Does anyone have a list of the useless programs we can safely delete if we unlock the Extended ROM.
I dont want to go messing with the unlocking the ROM and screwing up something to reinstall but I would love to get some programs from some ROMS I have tried and put them in better ROMs.
I.E. I dont want to lose Voice Commander, but know I have only seen it on one or two ROMS. so if I could save it to my computer and reinstall it on a ROM without it that would be great.
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Just to know.
Pdf reader, voice command utility, enroller... are not in the ExtendedROM but there are shortcuts there for them.
Whole programs are Skype and an antivirus software which are few Megs. Most of the .cab files in the ExtendedROM are just some kB-s. Those cannot be a pdf-reader program or a voice commander which need megabytes. Secondly it is not just "it cannot be" but it is "it is sure it is not". I looked in all of the cabfiles. Most of them are just shortcuts and registry values.
Churchill said:
Dopod 900... hmmmmm.
Is that an english version? I thought dopod roms are chinese or something like that
ALSO does it have both aku2 and a2dp? is pdf reader included. I am rightnowon the latest qtek rom and was under the impression that on my dutch mda pro I should only install the european roms as they are wwe.
thanx in advance
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As far as PDF reader is concerned, try this one
http://pocketxpdf.sourceforge.net/
It's definitely the best today.
Cheers
hrb
Installing Roms
How do I install .nbf files ?
I am sorry if this is a dumb question, really need to upgrade radio and extended rom.
Thanks
I'm looking for a good WM5 aku 3.5 (Helmi would be nice) without old WLM beta!
I pray you: i need it 'cos i want to use the new messanger and i don't want that USELESS WM6 beta rom!!!
Do you really want to use an Universal WITHOUT videocall?? Why did you buy a device that make videocalls??? I really can't understand!
Believe it or not, videocall is not the be all and end all of owning a device like the universal - for example, I love my universal, but have never used, and am never likely to use, videocall.
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Believe it or not, videocall is not the be all and end all of owning a device like the universal - for example, I love my universal, but have never used, and am never likely to use, videocall.
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I would agree with you.. But when you buy a Jasjar you pay EVEN videocall circuit..
Anyway: Any AKU 3.5?
I don't believe Helmi created a 3.5 version without WLM. You can try Ivan's 3.5, I don't remember if it has WLM.
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I don't believe Helmi created a 3.5 version without WLM.
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I think it's strange, isn't it? Well, i use an Italian rom based on Helmi... But i would use a WWE version.. 'cos it's too important for me MSN!
I hope Mr. Helmi will see this post... 'cos i think his rom it's the best.
I hope that one day there will be much more attention to old (!??) WM5.. I think i'm not the only one who cares about stability and videocall!
Ok.. It seems nobody cares about a fresh new AKU3.5...
Thank you all.
I hope those damn WM6 _BETA_ will be, ONE DAY, as usefull as AKU 3.5..
Will be from china? Vietnam? Maybe Borat will share with us his rom made in Kazakhstan...........
DJ Palmis
Use mamaich tools and remove WLM from Helmi's WM5.. That's easy.
Noone cares about WM5 because WM6 (even Beta) is better than WM5. Videocall is just a temporary problem, and in all other sides WM6 is much better than WM5. Try latest darkforce's ROM, and you'll see what I'm talking about
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the miain problems with wm6 were:
Crash on SR: Jwrightmcps fixed it
Memory Leak: I've Fixed it
Video Call:Both working on it
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the miain problems with wm6 were:
Crash on SR: Jwrightmcps fixed it
Memory Leak: I've Fixed it
Video Call:Both working on it
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I do hope you and Jwright share your thoughts and come out with a great rom that will be a mark on this forum. Good luck.
I hope in a miracle...
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Video Call:Both working on it
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We need driver, am i wrong?
To write those dlls we have to know very deeply Windows Mobile... AND DATA SHEET..
HTC ONLY own data sheets of our Universal...
So, sorry for my impertinent question: DO YOU REALLY think that is possible to make new driver WM6 compatible using reverse eng on old dll??
I am a realistic man, i respect your work.. but we need a MIRACLE...
In MY OPINION it would be better to work on our old WM5...
That's my two cents!
Currently I dont hv time to play around with WM5 or WM6, hopes someday I'll manage time...
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the miain problems with wm6 were:
Crash on SR: Jwrightmcps fixed it
Memory Leak: I've Fixed it
Video Call:Both working on it
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I believe I've fix Crash on SR on v.1.1 midget? Jwrightmcps use my 1.1 as a base rom and delete some file, VGAMode, Intelipad, Ringtone, broadcomm files , added some file, modify it registry... but some file, my broadcomm file are still there for some reason... the funny thing that he never mention My name, even after I talk to him...
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I believe I've fix Crash on SR on v.1.1 midget? Jwrightmcps use my 1.1 as a base rom and delete some file, VGAMode, Intelipad, Ringtone, broadcomm files , added some file, modify it registry... but some file, my broadcomm file are still there for some reason... the funny thing that he never mention My name, even after I talk to him...
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i thought his was based on the DarkForce rom, but i never looked into it that much. The crash on softreset is fixed by changing the blocksize for sd/mmc cards to 256, i assumed it was jwrightmcps that came up with it as he posted it but maybe not
Is the original WM6 for Artemis more responsive in general use than the WM5 version? I'm also interested if the cooked ROM's (Touch 4.02 for example) have any speed advantages when running TomTom. In my WM5 TomTom is quite slow. Can anyone comment on the performance of TomTom using different ROM's? Is there any visual difference?
About battery life, I've read a lot about some experiencing power drain but others getting even better battery performance with the same ROM. Is it even possible to say whether WM6 increased battery life vs WM5 or not? Please post your experiences, as I am trying to decide to upgrade or not to, because it is a small risk aswell.
in general: DUMP WM5 !
Advantages ( amongst others) of WM6:
- no data loss when out-off battery !!!!
- tomtom and other apps run more smoothly/quickly (subjectively)
The battery-drain for sure is a concerning matter, due to being based on gsm polling problems on certaain machines/radio versions!
he last tested and afaik original artemis radio rom is version 02.98.90.
greetz
totally agree and i suggest go forward to WM 6.1
WM5 is only history
thormdac said:
in general: DUMP WM5 !
Advantages ( amongst others) of WM6:
- no data loss when out-off battery !!!!
- tomtom and other apps run more smoothly/quickly (subjectively)
The battery-drain for sure is a concerning matter, due to being based on gsm polling problems on certaain machines/radio versions!
he last tested and afaik original artemis radio rom is version 02.98.90.
greetz
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wm5 is faster in my opinion that wm6 and wm6 totally kills your battery time which is a big nusience..
also wm6 seems more complicated with the simple phone functions....
I have tried some of the cooked rom's and have so many problem with the screen auto rolling when I don't want it to and sometimes I will click on "ok" and it doesn't seem to register for 3-4 seconds....
in general for phone and email use I am going back to wm5 to get back the battery time and general usability of the phone itself...
with wm5 I hardley ever ran out of battery time however with wm6 there has been a few occassions where I have not had a chance to charge the phone in one or two days and it has gone flat when I really needed it... simple things like this make the upgrade not worthwhile IMO, even if there are better features and nicer look in wm6..
Still confused what to do then with my xda orbit!
Just found this thread.
Mixed advice it would seem.
I've just bought an XDA ORBIT. It's still got Windows Mobile 5 and has TOMTOM 6 installed.
I still don't know whether I should UPGRADING TO WINDOWS 6.0 OR NOT?
Some say TomTom6 runs better on Windows 5, some disagree.
I also have copilot 6.0 discs which I could use instead. Anyone have a preference between Tomtom6 and Copilot 6 on the xda orbit?
Thanks in advance,
Matt.
I strongly reccomend skipping WM6.0 and going streight to WM6.1, and go for the "Touch 4.01" rom. I'd personally reccomend the vanilla one, as it's the fastest, and most of the installed stuff will be useless on the bulkier roms.
TomTom 6 runs very well on WM6.1, better than I remember on 5.0, however, i'm using a much later version I got from an unmentionable place. Takes only 3-4s to load from the today screen.
As for the data loss with WM5, that's actually a bit of a fib. Non-volatile storage was introduced with WM5, and enhanced for WM6. It was WM2003/SE when there were issues with volatile storage, and the in-ability to actually turn a device off.
Hope this helps
thormdac said:
in general: DUMP WM5 !
he last tested and afaik original artemis radio rom is version 02.98.90.
greetz
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Latest official o2 wm6 rom is shipping with radio version 3.06.90, which I found very good.
Wish there was stand alone install for this one, so I could use it with touch 4.02.