EXPERINCES with Different ROMs (Imate, O2, orange, Qtek etc. - JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro Software Upgrading

Hi guys!
Just a thougt and input from everybody after exposure of variety of ROMs.
How is individual's experience with his favourite rom and why and what does he feels about other roms.
Let's start
I have experienced Imate, Orange, Qtek, O2 and latestly Dopod ROMs and found
Imate as standard
Qtek as little fast
Orange as TURTLE even in this new environment
O2 as stable
Dopod currently using.
what's your experence???????????

My personal experience -
Dopod - using now. Stable and fast wake-up.
O2 - rate it the same as Dopod.
Qtek - slightly faster but somehow, it hanged more often vs. Dopod and O2.
Imate - the base but most stability issues for me comparing to above.

would you mind giving the version numbers u used. I cant figure out with ones to use!

Dopod - very happy with it, also on the Wizard

could someone point me to a link for the dopod 900 rom? I would be very thankful!

JPH said:
could someone point me to a link for the dopod 900 rom? I would be very thankful!
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Here it is.
Cheers
hrb
ftp://xda:[email protected]/Universal/Extended_ROMs/Dopod_900_WWE_ExtendedROM_1.30.230.zip

hrb said:
JPH said:
could someone point me to a link for the dopod 900 rom? I would be very thankful!
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Here it is.
Cheers
hrb
ftp://xda:[email protected]/Universal/Extended_ROMs/Dopod_900_WWE_ExtendedROM_1.30.230.zip
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Thanks for the help, I will give it a try.
JPH

Well, ever since got my exec 1 week ago, been crashing in on 3 Roms so far.
Qtek - Currently using, no hang so far.
O2 - Slightly slower compared to Dopod and Qtek.
Dopod - Stable.

I have tried the Jasjar, O2, and QTEC ROMs. I prefer the QTEC ROM because it has both A2DP and AKU2 support. I have been using it for more than a month, no crashes, all is working fine, and stable on my O2 Exec.
I believe any type of hanging in any ROM is due to a 3rd party app that you have installed. As long as you can sort it out, then it will work as you expected.
Does the new Dopod ROM have both A2DP and AKU2 support?

cktlcmd said:
I have tried the Jasjar, O2, and QTEC ROMs. I prefer the QTEC ROM because it has both A2DP and AKU2 support. I have been using it for more than a month, no crashes, all is working fine, and stable on my O2 Exec.
I believe any type of hanging in any ROM is due to a 3rd party app that you have installed. As long as you can sort it out, then it will work as you expected.
Does the new Dopod ROM have both A2DP and AKU2 support?
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Nope, hence i am hanging on e qtek on my exec :wink:

Flashed my out-of-date Vodafone ROM with the latest i-mate WWE ROM with the latest radio ROM. The i-mate ROM is quite handy as it sets up the GPRS and MMS settings for you after a fresh flashing. Very stable too!

I am totally agree with ctklcmd.
All ROMs are almost the same.
No speed differences. It depends just for your moods and 3rd party apps using. With stability is the same opinion.
I tried all of ROMs with all of RadioROMs.
Almost - if not totally - the same the last ones.
Differences are usually in extendedRoms.
Biggest help would be another 64MB RAM.
It is the main fuc*ed up thing in Universal.

Re: EXPERINCES with Different ROMs (Imate, O2, orange, Qtek
rikram said:
Hi guys!
Just a thougt and input from everybody after exposure of variety of ROMs.
How is individual's experience with his favourite rom and why and what does he feels about other roms.
Let's start
I have experienced Imate, Orange, Qtek, O2 and latestly Dopod ROMs and found
Imate as standard
Qtek as little fast
Orange as TURTLE even in this new environment
O2 as stable
Dopod currently using.
what's your experence???????????
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Dopod and Qtek almost same , very fast , as I know Dopod had share with Qtek same as HTC had share with Dopod , so you think HTC will not make good rom for Dopod and Qtek ?

I tried a lot.. I noticed a difference in
Radio 1.11 - Bluetooth headset seemed to sound better
My MDA is at the shop, so I dont knwo the other ROMs I am using.
I know I mixed and am running the latest T-mobile Extended Rom, but the latest Windows ROM.
What I notice a real difference with are the bundled programs in teh extended ROM.
The current T-Mobile Extended ROM (I Think its the T-mobile one), has Voice Commander that I didnt have in other ROMS. So it can take voice commands to dial which I think is cool, its not overly accurate and in my car I have to almost scream to get it right.. but if your by yourself in the car, screaming the numbers is safer than trying to dial.
Does anyone have a list of which ROMs have which programs?
BTW. while I am at it.. what the heck is Enroller? Does anyone have a list of the useless programs we can safely delete if we unlock the Extended ROM.
I dont want to go messing with the unlocking the ROM and screwing up something to reinstall but I would love to get some programs from some ROMS I have tried and put them in better ROMs.
I.E. I dont want to lose Voice Commander, but know I have only seen it on one or two ROMS. so if I could save it to my computer and reinstall it on a ROM without it that would be great.

Dopod 900... hmmmmm.
Is that an english version? I thought dopod roms are chinese or something like that
ALSO does it have both aku2 and a2dp? is pdf reader included. I am rightnowon the latest qtek rom and was under the impression that on my dutch mda pro I should only install the european roms as they are wwe.
thanx in advance

Churchill said:
Dopod 900... hmmmmm.
Is that an english version? I thought dopod roms are chinese or something like that
ALSO does it have both aku2 and a2dp? is pdf reader included. I am rightnowon the latest qtek rom and was under the impression that on my dutch mda pro I should only install the european roms as they are wwe.
thanx in advance
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Yes,Dopod had WWE & CHT rom you can find WWE rom in ftp , only had auk2 dont havd a2dp yet

cdgoin said:
I tried a lot.. I noticed a difference in
Radio 1.11 - Bluetooth headset seemed to sound better
My MDA is at the shop, so I dont knwo the other ROMs I am using.
I know I mixed and am running the latest T-mobile Extended Rom, but the latest Windows ROM.
What I notice a real difference with are the bundled programs in teh extended ROM.
The current T-Mobile Extended ROM (I Think its the T-mobile one), has Voice Commander that I didnt have in other ROMS. So it can take voice commands to dial which I think is cool, its not overly accurate and in my car I have to almost scream to get it right.. but if your by yourself in the car, screaming the numbers is safer than trying to dial.
Does anyone have a list of which ROMs have which programs?
BTW. while I am at it.. what the heck is Enroller? Does anyone have a list of the useless programs we can safely delete if we unlock the Extended ROM.
I dont want to go messing with the unlocking the ROM and screwing up something to reinstall but I would love to get some programs from some ROMS I have tried and put them in better ROMs.
I.E. I dont want to lose Voice Commander, but know I have only seen it on one or two ROMS. so if I could save it to my computer and reinstall it on a ROM without it that would be great.
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Just to know.
Pdf reader, voice command utility, enroller... are not in the ExtendedROM but there are shortcuts there for them.
Whole programs are Skype and an antivirus software which are few Megs. Most of the .cab files in the ExtendedROM are just some kB-s. Those cannot be a pdf-reader program or a voice commander which need megabytes. Secondly it is not just "it cannot be" but it is not. I looked in all of the cabfiles. Most of them are just shortcuts and registry values.

cdgoin said:
I tried a lot.. I noticed a difference in
Radio 1.11 - Bluetooth headset seemed to sound better
My MDA is at the shop, so I dont knwo the other ROMs I am using.
I know I mixed and am running the latest T-mobile Extended Rom, but the latest Windows ROM.
What I notice a real difference with are the bundled programs in teh extended ROM.
The current T-Mobile Extended ROM (I Think its the T-mobile one), has Voice Commander that I didnt have in other ROMS. So it can take voice commands to dial which I think is cool, its not overly accurate and in my car I have to almost scream to get it right.. but if your by yourself in the car, screaming the numbers is safer than trying to dial.
Does anyone have a list of which ROMs have which programs?
BTW. while I am at it.. what the heck is Enroller? Does anyone have a list of the useless programs we can safely delete if we unlock the Extended ROM.
I dont want to go messing with the unlocking the ROM and screwing up something to reinstall but I would love to get some programs from some ROMS I have tried and put them in better ROMs.
I.E. I dont want to lose Voice Commander, but know I have only seen it on one or two ROMS. so if I could save it to my computer and reinstall it on a ROM without it that would be great.
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Just to know.
Pdf reader, voice command utility, enroller... are not in the ExtendedROM but there are shortcuts there for them.
Whole programs are Skype and an antivirus software which are few Megs. Most of the .cab files in the ExtendedROM are just some kB-s. Those cannot be a pdf-reader program or a voice commander which need megabytes. Secondly it is not just "it cannot be" but it is "it is sure it is not". I looked in all of the cabfiles. Most of them are just shortcuts and registry values.

Churchill said:
Dopod 900... hmmmmm.
Is that an english version? I thought dopod roms are chinese or something like that
ALSO does it have both aku2 and a2dp? is pdf reader included. I am rightnowon the latest qtek rom and was under the impression that on my dutch mda pro I should only install the european roms as they are wwe.
thanx in advance
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As far as PDF reader is concerned, try this one
http://pocketxpdf.sourceforge.net/
It's definitely the best today.
Cheers
hrb

Installing Roms
How do I install .nbf files ?
I am sorry if this is a dumb question, really need to upgrade radio and extended rom.
Thanks

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Upgrading to WM5, is it wise?

I'm thinking to upgrade my BA (Qtek 9090) to WM2005.
Few things i would like to know. Is it safe procedure? Or is it possible to b0rk my device for good?
Another thing is that is there a site where you could find programs or utilities or WM2005 features that doesn't work?
If you have to ask, you shouldn't do it. I have been working with computers in all shapes and forms for 20 years, and it was pretty difficult to get this right.
Mastiff said:
If you have to ask, you shouldn't do it.
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Have to agree with Mastif with this.. I have converted twice now from WM2003SE to WM5 and then converted back again.. Personally, provided you follow the advice in Wiki, you shouldn't have a problem but..
If your BA is working exactly as you want it to, then why change.. Others on here have changed because they fancy a new look on their BA whereas some have changed for the improved BT performance, etc etc..
WM2003SE with the latest 1.42 T-Mobile Rom (and ExtROM) are perfectly good enough for me right now.. It does what I need it to..
I guess what I'm saying is that if you're not comfortable changing to WM5 and there's no real need then why do it..?
Hope this answer helps..? I'd hate to see a post on here form yourself with the title "Help - I've Borked my BA!" :lol:
Cheers,
Infra,
Well i was using WM5 since it was released for BA. Just a couple of days back i shifted to WM2003SE because there was no radio service. However within 1 day of my usage it got soft reseted at least 10 times. I know that some might say that the softwares installed were not correct. However the same programs are installed WM5. It has not soft reset even once. For me i think that WM5 is more stable even in this leaked version. You might loose some of your favorite SW if it has not been updated for WM5.
Just my $0.02.
Best Regards,
Hemant.

Flashing back to wm5?

How would I go about flashing my phone back to wm5? Or should I? I never really used wm5 and went straight to wm6. What do you guys think is more buggy? I have a feeling wm6 is or maybe I just need to reinstall it. It nothing specific just random bugs like sometimes the screen light wont turn off, memory running out, and just other things that happen. So should i flash to wm5 or reflash wm6 in hopes of having it fix issues.
Stay with WM6. It rocks. There are fixes for just about everything, you just have to look around a little.
Sounds to me like you hard a bad install and something went wrong. I would re-install the WM6 ROM from TMO here --> http://www.t-mobile.com/wmupgrade/
After you install (W/O memory card installed) it go here --->http://howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=1160147
Hope this helps.
So what exactly does having the memory card out do when your installing? Ill do a reinstall when I get home.
Not sure but I've read that many people choose to do a clean install without anything extra like storage cards installed. Something about an endless reboot loop. There's a big thread about in on HOFO.
May i ask what the Pros and Cons for both WM5 and WM6 ROMS are?
oldsap said:
May i ask what the Pros and Cons for both WM5 and WM6 ROMS are?
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you're kidding right?
lafester said:
you're kidding right?
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hahaha no sir. I have just ordered my DASH and while reading through the threads, ive seen lots of bugs, etc when WM6 ROM is used.
By pros and cons, i meant the essential performance of the unit when using WM5 or WM6, like battery life, speed, etc
people freak out when they upgrade and think everything is going to be the same as wm5 only better. there are very few real bugs in wm6 and those have all been fixed here.
there are still some apps that don't work but there's nothing we can do about that. i'm sure the devs will update their products soon.
speed is slightly faster but everything else is about the same performance wise. i actually have a little more memory with wm6 then i did with wm5 but programs still leak so its best to keep them closed.
all the other enhancements make it a no brainer to upgrade especially if you are just getting it and haven't loaded it up with apps and tweaks already.
thank you lafester for the quick reply
I'm staying with WM5 for the simple fact that I still have "voice tags" !!
does anyone knows if there exist a Widcom stack to hack over the MS stack ??? simply for more BT profiles ??? I also own the Axim X51V and having the Widcom stack rules !!! MS BT stack is the pit !!!
lafester said:
i actually have a little more memory with wm6 then i did with wm5 but programs still leak so its best to keep them closed.
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???
comparing the 2 ROMs ( HTC WM5 for S620 & WM6 T-mobile )
HTC S620 = 23+ MB
T-Mobile = 19 + MB
this is after a fresh ROM upgrade/downgrade ... from rogers S621.
how did you get more ????
I do agreed however ... that WM6 is a little zippier
maybe because i have the dash so we are comparing different starting roms.
ive read somewhere that there is a built in IM for yahoo,etc in WM5 ROM. If this is true, is it also available in WM6 ROM?
oldsap said:
ive read somewhere that there is a built in IM for yahoo,etc in WM5 ROM. If this is true, is it also available in WM6 ROM?
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yep but it doesn't connect over wifi, I think it might be designed to only use GPRS so t-mobile can make revenue from it.
Anyone know how to manually remove all the t-mobile programs from the dash? Mine is only sim unlocked but not cid so I can't install the HTC S620 rom.
how do you flash back to wm5 i have problems with wm6
iba12345 said:
how do you flash back to wm5 i have problems with wm6
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the same way you would with WM6 ... only this time use the HTC S620 WM5 ROM
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=288230
this is kinda OT here but may i ask which WM5 ROM is the best with regards to speed, ease of use, memory? DopodAsia/T-Mo/HTC?

Best rom for T-Mobile Compact III

Ive seen a lot of new roms, some based on official and some built up themselves.
First, whats the latest on an official WM6 ROM from T-Mob UK?
Second, whats the best rom for a UK Compact III? How does it handle the lack of Wifi. Im mainly intrested to hear from those Compact III users who have switched and if they have noticed any problems or missing features.
Third and finally, is there a download for the original rom? Or can I flash it to the T-mob WM6 rom (if one comes out) if ive flashed to a 3rd party rom?
I had problems with some WM5 roms on my prophet in that the sound was too low or it contained crap. Sometimes things didnt work like when you clicked on a text entry box the keyboard didnt appear.
Thanks
dannyoneill said:
Ive seen a lot of new roms, some based on official and some built up themselves.
First, whats the latest on an official WM6 ROM from T-Mob UK?
Second, whats the best rom for a UK Compact III? How does it handle the lack of Wifi. Im mainly intrested to hear from those Compact III users who have switched and if they have noticed any problems or missing features.
Third and finally, is there a download for the original rom? Or can I flash it to the T-mob WM6 rom (if one comes out) if ive flashed to a 3rd party rom?
I had problems with some WM5 roms on my prophet in that the sound was too low or it contained crap. Sometimes things didnt work like when you clicked on a text entry box the keyboard didnt appear.
Thanks
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WM6 works really good on my MDA from t mobile.
I'm actually using Bepe WWE rom flashed with USPL, I have already flashed two devices without any problems (exept problems with doing it on vista but it was also solved).
Generally wm6 works faster and is more stable then wm5 but nothing is perfect, i've notticed that some programs have problems to run properly.
Spb Gprs monitor doesn't work at all and spb backup has problems with reading files from windows directory.
wm6 is far better then wm5 and i can recomend it to anyone even if you must used to some issues.
there is no official wm6 rom from t-mobile uk and probably there will not be one, but if i am wrong you can obviously flash your device with it.
mda mms settings
Hi there, need help with my mda vario. I unlocked it for cingular and works fine but then i upgraded the rom to 2.26 and can not get my mms work. The MMS settings is totally blocked out. Someone please help!!

On Qteck 9000 what is better wm5 or wm6

Hi everyone !!!
Could enyone help to take this desition ..coul'd the old memebers help me with this?
Is there any benefit installing WM6 on this type of PPC ? will the micro processor stand it ? will I have enough memory to install it ?
All suggestions will be wollcome
thanks
Rodrigo
Depends whether you accept the limitation of each Os version. There is no complete functional WM6. especially the Video call doesnt function at none of the available ROMS. Anyhow no worries about the Hardware, there is no issiues.
Personal Opinion: I am on WM6 since it was available. I wouldn't go back.
I am running on the PDAVIET 2.10.11 ROM and I have to say I had never before such Stable and fast ROM.
I would disagree
I have tried pretty much every WM6 ROM going and have now gone back to WM5 (Jwrights AKU 3.2) and it is soooooo much more stable. Rarely have to soft reset and every app functions as it should. Basically the limitations of the WM6 roms highlight that none of them are specifically designed for the universal and as such, will never be quite 'right'. If HTC release a WM6 ROM for the universal then it might be worth trying again, but I am now prepared to wait until I get a Kaiser before trying WM6 again.
captainsensible2002 said:
I would disagree
I have tried pretty much every WM6 ROM going and have now gone back to WM5 (Jwrights AKU 3.2) and it is soooooo much more stable. Rarely have to soft reset and every app functions as it should. Basically the limitations of the WM6 roms highlight that none of them are specifically designed for the universal and as such, will never be quite 'right'. If HTC release a WM6 ROM for the universal then it might be worth trying again, but I am now prepared to wait until I get a Kaiser before trying WM6 again.
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One thing I hate about JWright's 3.2 is that Windows Media Player can't play FULL SCREEN stream videos or TVs. Booting up takes a LOOOOOOOOONG time too.
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captainsensible2002 said:
I would disagree
I have tried pretty much every WM6 ROM going and have now gone back to WM5 (Jwrights AKU 3.2) and it is soooooo much more stable. Rarely have to soft reset and every app functions as it should. Basically the limitations of the WM6 roms highlight that none of them are specifically designed for the universal and as such, will never be quite 'right'. If HTC release a WM6 ROM for the universal then it might be worth trying again, but I am now prepared to wait until I get a Kaiser before trying WM6 again.
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There is one important think that I have observed to make WM6 stable. The Phone Radio band is usually set "auto" (GSM/3G) however in low signal areas, radio search for better signal and the device starts to switch between GSM and 3G. This frequent change makes the device unstable. Therefore I set my device to "manual" and choose GSM. (I dont have 3G anyhow).
Beside there are still the issue of which radio Radio version. some say 1.15 is better; then other say they have problems with it.
Anyhow it ends up almost like above issue. If the Radio version is not right and the signal is low the device keep looking for better receive.
Therefore Radio has to bee also choosen correctly for YOUR OWN AREA.
Again I have try all the ROMS and all of them had some miner issues but on the aspect stability and speed I am in fewer of PDAVIET especially the last version 2.10.11. After using it for 5 days, not ones hanged!!!
Booting up takes a LOOOOOOOOONG time too
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Not much longer than WM6 on my uni??

WM6 vs WM5 performance comparison

Is the original WM6 for Artemis more responsive in general use than the WM5 version? I'm also interested if the cooked ROM's (Touch 4.02 for example) have any speed advantages when running TomTom. In my WM5 TomTom is quite slow. Can anyone comment on the performance of TomTom using different ROM's? Is there any visual difference?
About battery life, I've read a lot about some experiencing power drain but others getting even better battery performance with the same ROM. Is it even possible to say whether WM6 increased battery life vs WM5 or not? Please post your experiences, as I am trying to decide to upgrade or not to, because it is a small risk aswell.
in general: DUMP WM5 !
Advantages ( amongst others) of WM6:
- no data loss when out-off battery !!!!
- tomtom and other apps run more smoothly/quickly (subjectively)
The battery-drain for sure is a concerning matter, due to being based on gsm polling problems on certaain machines/radio versions!
he last tested and afaik original artemis radio rom is version 02.98.90.
greetz
totally agree and i suggest go forward to WM 6.1
WM5 is only history
thormdac said:
in general: DUMP WM5 !
Advantages ( amongst others) of WM6:
- no data loss when out-off battery !!!!
- tomtom and other apps run more smoothly/quickly (subjectively)
The battery-drain for sure is a concerning matter, due to being based on gsm polling problems on certaain machines/radio versions!
he last tested and afaik original artemis radio rom is version 02.98.90.
greetz
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wm5 is faster in my opinion that wm6 and wm6 totally kills your battery time which is a big nusience..
also wm6 seems more complicated with the simple phone functions....
I have tried some of the cooked rom's and have so many problem with the screen auto rolling when I don't want it to and sometimes I will click on "ok" and it doesn't seem to register for 3-4 seconds....
in general for phone and email use I am going back to wm5 to get back the battery time and general usability of the phone itself...
with wm5 I hardley ever ran out of battery time however with wm6 there has been a few occassions where I have not had a chance to charge the phone in one or two days and it has gone flat when I really needed it... simple things like this make the upgrade not worthwhile IMO, even if there are better features and nicer look in wm6..
Still confused what to do then with my xda orbit!
Just found this thread.
Mixed advice it would seem.
I've just bought an XDA ORBIT. It's still got Windows Mobile 5 and has TOMTOM 6 installed.
I still don't know whether I should UPGRADING TO WINDOWS 6.0 OR NOT?
Some say TomTom6 runs better on Windows 5, some disagree.
I also have copilot 6.0 discs which I could use instead. Anyone have a preference between Tomtom6 and Copilot 6 on the xda orbit?
Thanks in advance,
Matt.
I strongly reccomend skipping WM6.0 and going streight to WM6.1, and go for the "Touch 4.01" rom. I'd personally reccomend the vanilla one, as it's the fastest, and most of the installed stuff will be useless on the bulkier roms.
TomTom 6 runs very well on WM6.1, better than I remember on 5.0, however, i'm using a much later version I got from an unmentionable place. Takes only 3-4s to load from the today screen.
As for the data loss with WM5, that's actually a bit of a fib. Non-volatile storage was introduced with WM5, and enhanced for WM6. It was WM2003/SE when there were issues with volatile storage, and the in-ability to actually turn a device off.
Hope this helps
thormdac said:
in general: DUMP WM5 !
he last tested and afaik original artemis radio rom is version 02.98.90.
greetz
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Latest official o2 wm6 rom is shipping with radio version 3.06.90, which I found very good.
Wish there was stand alone install for this one, so I could use it with touch 4.02.

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