I just updated my "flagship software" for Phone Edition.
(sorry for the one month of delay time)
Many many improvements, new features and fixes.
Now you can replace the default balloon message of the upcoming phone, use the fullscreen message, see the caller's photos in any size... or turn the Pocket PC completely off into the Silent Profile.
More fixes for the standard PPC2002 and WM2003 Phone Edition versions.
You can customize the view of taskbar with all default icons are still visible correctly. The only solution for Phone Edition.
Plus: skinable interface, icons, images, messages in the full version, just it going to change the name to the Phone Profiles Seriously.
The Lite Version is free update for current users.
Test it. There is a few different O/S now. Be sure it works with your device correctly.
The Trial Version works 7 days without limits.
More screenshots, descriptions on the new Home Page:
http://www.jgui.net/phoneprofiles/index.html
Read there how to customize your images, icons, message.
I open the contest for the best and fun icons for Phone Profiles.
The winners (3) will get the full version. Until the end of February.
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hello,
do you consider making Polish language version of your software ?? question not only out of curiosity ..
regards, monika
My trial of version 3.1 has just finished, so I downloaded version 5 to see what has changed.
The settings interface is a big improvement, but there are two bugs that I've found which have annoyed me. Also, in version 3.1 I had nice small icons on the Today screen. In version 5 the icons are huge! Too big!
Bugs:
- When I click a profile icon, then choose a time, the click goes through the time button to the today item behind it. The profile is chosen OK, but I then have to close (for example) the Bluetooth setting dialog. Grrr!
- Last night I was browsing my offline IE favourites. As normal, every time I opened a stored page, the XDA2 tried to connect GPRS to check the page version. As normal I clicked the 'cancel' button to stop the GPRS connecting, but every time I did this, the machine turned itself off. I discovered this is because I had chosen a Phone Profile (default Silent) with the setting to turn the machine off after every call. This was a major pain in the ass. If this setting is going to cause the machine to switch off like this then I'm never going to use it - it's a wasted setting.
At the moment, Version 5 has disadvantages for me. It's not a step backwards, because the settings interface is improved a lot, but I'm not going to use the program any more. This is a pity - Version 3.1 was excellent!
Hope this helps.
Edit: More bugs? I just set the 'Loudest' profile to 'Vibrate: longer' on incoming calls. Wow. It was definitely longer. It wouldn't stop, even 30 seconds after the phone had passed the call to answerphone. I had to switch it off and back on to stop the vibration. Great.
Also on loudest profile, with SMS set to 'Sound: normal' and 'Vibrate: normal', I get no vibration or sound at all when an SMS comes in.
Also also , I can't configure MSN Messenger alerts independently, which I could in V 3.1.
Damn, my disappointment level is rising!
1. I think it is safe to see the today screen and changes of phone profiles whe it happen - just to be sure "where you are". why do you want to change the phone profle when you are with another settings dialog? if I undestood you correctly
2. you have right, I did not think in this way. I will fix it. In the meantime: just do not use "turn the power off after the call" option, easy?
thanks for you comments
Thanks for responding quickly.
More explanation:
1.
On the Today screen I have PhoneProfiles with the (large) icons visible. When I tap an icon to change profile I get the timeset buttons (15, 30, 60, 90 etc.). The timeset buttons are bigger than the area that PhoneProfiles needs, so on my screen the timeset buttons overlap the item below, which is my Bluetooth headset profile item. When I click the '---' button to select the PhoneProfile, the click activates the chosen PhoneProfile, but also hits the Bluetooth headset item.
2.
I have disabled the 'Turn power off after the call' option.
I uploaded the setup file,
problems with vibrate and fullscreen skinning fixed
btw: when you use "longer vibrate" or "pulse"
and you will not answer the call and the caller cancel the ringing
and now you want to break the vibrations
PRESS the red phone hardware buttons on tap the balloon or fullscreen message
Hi JGUI,
Nice work.
I miss one thing. Is possibel to give diferent ring tones to callers? as you can do with the pictures?
Regards
JoseF
Hi JGUI,
Nice work.
I miss one thing. Is possibel to give diferent ring tones to callers? as you can do with the pictures?
Regards
JoseF
different sounds
are you sure you want it?
I noticed that when I set different sounds sometimes when I hear my phone ring I do not focus and undestand that it is ringing because my mind expects default ring I use.
in the previous version there was an options to random select sounds from one folder and this given me the same confusion as the one above, sounds changes and I do not recognize that my phone ring when I listen music or tv....
any way, of course I thought so and I can add this feature
you can keep photos and sound in one folder with names as your caller phone numbers and the program will use if found photo or sound with appreciated name to number
thanks
caller photo trial?
Hi!
@JGUI: the description and screenshots look very promising. I would like to use this program to replace the CallerId program that comes with the MDA/XDA II. CallerId is somewhat notorious, and seems to cause many problems.
However, I would like to test this feature before I shell out $39... would you consider making a trial version of the Seriously version? You could limit the caller photos to, let's say, three entries. That would be enough to test the feature, and still give enough incentive to actually buy the program!
Also, do you consider foreign language versions? I'd be happy to help you making a German version, if you want!
Best Regards
Daniel
I made
I made the trial,
of course as I made it always for all my software.
this is one setup file for all versions of Phone Profiles currently,
you install and you start to use the trial,
then you can write in settings dialog the password
to unlock to the lite version or to the full "seriously" version
depend what passwword you got.
Re: I made
JGUI said:
I made the trial,
of course as I made it always for all my software.
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Oh, I see. I misunderstood you - I thought the trial has only the features of the "lite" version.
Will download the trial now and see how it goes!
Cheers
Daniel
Hi JGUI, I downloaded the trail and it look good.
One thing i miss is that whem receiving a sms I can let the red light only flash for 5 minutes up to one hour. I would like to see it flash without limit. So only when I read the sms the red light can go off.
Got it...excellent
But do I need to delete caller id monitor from start ???? I think it s not usefull now right ? with JG prog, functions are the same and I am not sure to use the two at the same time wont make some bugs Your opinion ?
Oh, and we all want configurable MSN Messenger alerts, right? :wink:
:mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
I tried the 3.xx versions but I had some bugs ...
The version 5 looks good but it is not possible to have different ring tones for contact
And 39$ it is a little bit more expansive when you see that Crazy kart only cost 15$
For that price do we have unlimited upgrade free ?
Could some users post their feedback about this version ....
Fix web site... www.jgui.com ?
JGUI:
I downloaded the Seriously version and like many of the features. However, I am trying to figure out how to set all of the features you describe. Your web site has broken links all over the place... and, moreover, it's difficult to find this software without knowing the exact link.
REQUESTED FEATURE:
It would be VERY nice to be able to "schedule" profiles to turn on and off. For example, I'd like to have silent scheduled from 10PM-6AM, then have the default turn on from there...
Thx, JS
link?
broken link?
I think it works fine:
www.jgui.net/phoneprofiles/
scheduling profiles? hmmm? I think it would be "too much".
you will forget your settings between just 4 profiles, scheduled and normal changed, very soon! and you will be wonder that your phone works in unexpected way...
I tested scheduling, my friends too....
We think that the simple tap the icon and change the profile temporary or continuously, it is the better solution...
But I'm still listening comments, awaiting... let's see what others will say...
thank you for your comments[/url]
Re: link?
JGUI said:
broken link?
I think it works fine:
www.jgui.net/phoneprofiles/
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What he meant are the links "patents", "dhtml", "pocketpc" and "contacts" in the top blue bar on your site, which point to non-existing pages.
JGUI said:
scheduling profiles? hmmm? I think it would be "too much".
you will forget your settings between just 4 profiles, scheduled and normal changed, very soon! and you will be wonder that your phone works in unexpected way...
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Well, I would find that a useful feature. You could, for example, program it to go to the "quietest" profile each day from 10pm to 7am, when you're asleep.
Cheers
Daniel
but...
I have a problem with IA (included in Qtek)...it run at the same time and I have two scrren (one over the other one) when somebody call... how to stop Id caller ? I tried to put out from start folder but it still start after a soft reset....
Any idea ?????
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Hi,,
a few weeks ago, I made and give away the program MY PHONE which allows you to preview your last phone and SMS on Today Screen.
I updated this program finally, today. Stay a freeware. But I stopped to write it more. It's still here myphone.
Just because I made a new program MY|MESSAGES with much more improvemented features and stability. And with SMS auto-reply with pre-defined text.
It's here mymessages, and this program is a shareware with 7 days trial.
Here's brief descriptions:
This program displays on Today Screen, your last phone calls, SMS and email messages.
Additionally, it allows you to reply to SMS sender, without the needs to open the Inbox dialog.
Program features:
- preview phone calls log
- preview up to 5 your email accounts
- preview SMS account
- preview ActiveSync account
- show/hide any account independently
- show/hide list of message by tapping the title line
- show/hide details of every mesage independently or together
- show/hide battery, memory and external card status
- quick reply to SMS sender with one of pre-defined text
Program settings:
- select the number of messages to display from 1, 3, 5 or 10
- select only the today's messages to display
- select the name or number/email to display
- show/hide fonts shadows
- show/hide the standard icons
- display the red title line if the last phone call is missed
- display the red title line if the last message is unread
- blink the title line (and icon) if the status changed
- define up to 4 auto-reply text with up to 100 characters
- select the SMS number format - change this setting if you get message: "cannot send SMS", because it depends from your cellular network preferences
Program specials:
- if the last phone call is missed, the preview of number is displayed automatically
- if the last message is changed or unread, the preview of sender name and subject is displayed automatically
- if the one of above happen, the icon beside the line changes to the red picture
- tap any message's sender name will display subject text
- tap any account title line will hide the list and all details at once
- the menu displays preview of your own pre-defined SMS reply text, only if you tap on SMS message
- tap the resources line changes between MB and percentage values
Program requirements:
- PPC2002 or Windows Mobile Phone Edition (Second Edition too)
- 60kB of free memory
The Trial Version works 7 days without limits. Red message "shareware" will display every 5 minutes. Then auto-reply and preview of details will not run.
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STAY AWAY!!!!
STAY AWAY!!!!
I highly suggest not to touch any piece of software this guy publishes!!! he's extremely unreliable, doesn't support his users, abandons projects days or weeks after he publishes them, has tons of bugs which he doesn't fix, he rather play with his features than fix bugs. I was one of many who paid about $30 for his "Profiles Seriously" or whatever it was called, it was packed with bugs which were never fixed.
This guy is a joke as a software developer!!!
STAY AWAY!!!!
please
mr. new-to-image
I'm Janusz Gerszberg,
just check the newest PHONE PROFILES SE version 7.0.
and firstly test this MY|MESSAGE software before you say anything.
I dont see any bugs. as many my customers.
and please do not stay anonymously.
if you have opinion.
:x
For a reference of this guy's previous "success" in the software industry, check this thread and see how many complaints are posted from users, many of which also paid $30:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=5169
Who's to say this new software won't display similar "syndromes". The fact if Mr. JGUI, you've more than proved yourself to be unreliable and an amateur, so you pretty much deserve any criticism, and as for my anonymity, it's my god given right on the Internet, and is entirely irrelevant to the objective criticism I post here.
Pissed off about my post?? Damn good, so am I regarding the $30 I paid for your piece of crappy software and the endless time I've spent on the forum with other members complaining and asking again and again for you to fix all the bugs, while you were showing off your latest "features", playing with them like an infantile instead of fixing the bugs we had, like a serious developer should have done. :evil:
You've got no-one to blame but yourself, you created your own reputation, now live with it!
Therefor I stay by my previous warning: STAY AWAY!!!! Don't give this guy any money for his so called "software", if he wants to give it out for free like Zendrui's marvelous PocketZenPhone (a fine example of how software SHOULD be written) then fine, but don't pay for it!!!
very good
Qtek2020 said:
very good Software
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After reading the tread new_to_imate mentioned, I can imagine he's utterly reluctant to any new software written by JGUI.
I for one cannot imagine why a developer who asks money for software he wrote does not fix bugs faced by a number of his customers. Just the fact JGUI cannot reproduce the bugs these customers face does not imply he shouldn't care about it at all. Instead, he should find a way to reproduce these bugs, on way or another, or otherwise simply return money back!
Having said that, on the other hand I do not understand why people hand over their hard-earned money when they are able to try it out for a certain period before paying for the full version. However, if the shareware version works flawlessy and the full version contains bugs, then JGUI should fix them a.s.a.p.
I tried both Phones Seriously and Zendrui's PocketZenPhone and this new MY|MESSAGES, and I must admit I couldn't get Phones Seriously get to work properly. PocketZenPhone works like a charm, and it is free too!
MY|MESSAGES worked perfectly too, but a pricetag of $12,85 is WAY to high for the given functionality...
AAARRGGHHH !!!
How do I uninstall "Myphone" ?? It is not what I want or thought it would be but do you think i can kill it and remove it ?
The file myphone.dll will not die !!
What a POS !!
marcuskeeler said:
AAARRGGHHH !!!
How do I uninstall "Myphone" ?? It is not what I want or thought it would be but do you think i can kill it and remove it ?
The file myphone.dll will not die !!
What a POS !!
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Did you try unchecking the MyPhone plug-in in the Today Screen settings? This should normally unload the DLL, so that it can be deleted.
Cheers
Daniel
Yup--JGUI has pissed off his customer base. Not only on this board, but others around the Internet and on Handango as well.
Give up JGUI--you should have listened to your angry customers by fixing your bugs and stop "playing" with your new features.
JS (no hiding here)
i second that one
Yea... I was just browsing posts (looking for new ways to screw up my phone) and ran into this one. I vividly remember this MORON and his "software development" skills.
This is one guy whose software I DEFINITELY won't try.
Peace.
i'm also going to stay away from jgui's software. yesterday i was unchecking the my|phone plug-in in today screen settings. right after clickinig 'ok' i got my first (and unintended) hard reset on my xda2 :-( and now i am re-installing all the fine stuff i had installed before and restoring my personal data.
i don't like having software-caused hard resets without my permission. the accidental hard reset was (in my opinion) caused by the installed my|phone 1.4 but i will surely not install the 1.5 (that was the reason for me trying to de-install 1.4) and not at all this new stuff my|message.
this experience is very annoying for me but it would be more annoying if i had payed some money for the software.
so jgui, before you try to earn some money by your software please get it stable and reliable or clearly point out that you only offer unsupported versions (where nobody would pay any cent for, i guess).
guys,
I did not implemented in my software any hard-reset feature.
And because Pocket PC has WM_HIBERNATE inside, this is not possbile
that some software make hard-reset due conflicts inside there.
So please peter, your hard-reset was not by my fail. be serious.
PEOPLE.
I give away free trial versions of all my software. So please try, you dont like - you dont have to pay. and use.
but dont say "it does not work at all" because many people use it successful with no problems.
of course I'm sorry for any problems, and still I made many fixes resolved problems which users reported to me.
this is my final word in this forum thread.
I to have got a hardreset from My|Phone.
It´s FULL of bugs, and not just a few but many!
I will never use Jgui´s software again, until he has a good rumor as a reliable
programmer, and not just a showoff as he is right now.
I looked around for an alternative to My|Phone, and found TodayPhone.
I bought the program, and it works flawlessly without any bugs!
They also released a new version of it, just a week ago and it added a
few new features and small fixes...
Jgui should learn from others! :roll:
I did not implemented in my software any hard-reset feature.
And because Pocket PC has WM_HIBERNATE inside, this is not possbile
that some software make hard-reset due conflicts inside there.
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Yea, right. I got a message, tapped on the new message to display the short preview of it. Then it frooze, stood there for a few seconds. And then hardreseted...
Im eager to hear the version of it not beeing caused by My|Phone.
I give away free trial versions of all my software. So please try, you dont like - you dont have to pay. and use.
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That's fair enough and a nice idea. However, if you can't remove it if we don't like it, or the bugs, that's just NASTY !!
this is my final word in this forum thread.
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You promise ?
Did you try unchecking the MyPhone plug-in in the Today Screen settings? This should normally unload the DLL, so that it can be deleted.
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Yea, did that with no use, still can't remove it. In the end I renamed it and removed it after a reset, but it still won't leave my "installed progs" list now. Grrrrrrr !!!!!
At least I haven't experienced the hard reset problem, yet.
I also can confirm that my XDA rebooted when I attempted to uninstall MY|PHONE.
This guy should focus on learning real development without bugs, before ever starting to customize his forms for Windows mobile 2003 SE !!!
Considering we are beta testing his so-called software, that he does not listen to people wills and that the sofwares are bug-factories, I think *he* should pay us for that bag of ****.
You want a good software try PocketZenPhone.
Works almost flawlessly and when there's a problem it is fixed before you knew what happen.
And, it's free
You want a good today plugin about your missed calls and so on, try PhoneDashboard.
http://www.pocket.at/pocketpc2/phonedashboard.htm
JGUI has stolen most of the concept behind this nice piece of code that rocks (it's 14.99$ and I believe it is worst it)
Myphone.dll
marcuskeeler said:
AAARRGGHHH !!!
How do I uninstall "Myphone" ?? It is not what I want or thought it would be but do you think i can kill it and remove it ?
The file myphone.dll will not die !!
What a POS !!
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I also had this problem but also had a memeory leak that, surprise, surprise, went away once I renamed and deleted myphone.dll. Definitley will avoid softwate from this amateur in future.
this is my final word in this forum thread.
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Keep the day job!!!
Interesting reading this - i installed My|Phone on both my XDA and XDA 2 - getting rid of it on either was a complete nightmare (not to mention the problems it caused). IMHO you need to be very careful about installing software on your PPC, as one dire bit of code can kill it so darn easily.
Greetings, long time lurker, first time poster. (Translation: Sorry if this is in the wrong forum, please move it)
I've made a GPS logging app for Windows Mobile. I'm sure there are others that exist out there, but I had to make this because it's lighter. The main purpose is to log to a GPX file which I can then use to geotag my flickr photos (example Greece vacation pics).
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I was hoping to get some feedback on this app, all you need to do is install it on your phone and when you go out, get it to read your location. The source code is also available for you to see, so I won't post the CAB here, you can download it from Codeplex - is that OK? The codeplex page also has instructions, other information that you might need.
http://www.codeplex.com/gpstracka
One of the problems I've faced is that there is no Folder Dialog in the compact framework, I'm getting the user to enter a path to a filename and I just strip the file name out afterwards.
Another problem is that this isn't working on the Xperia X1!
The biggest problem - 450 downloads and virtually NO feedback!
So, I'd appreciate any feedback and if you do try it out, what your phone model is. All info is on the codeplex page too, so if you want to make modifications, I can add you as a developer.
I am so happy to see you post your application here. This is definitely the right forum for it.
I actually discovered it myself not so long ago, and I highly recommend it to anyone who is looking for a GPS logger. I have tried most of them and IMHO, this is by far the best. The author forgot to mention a few things, check out these features, and try it for yourself:
* works even when the device is in suspended mode, without having to wake it up whenever logging is required
* only switches on gps when needed, and switches it off once fix is acquired
* user defined location for log file (eg: main memory uses less battery than sd card)
* low battery consumption (as inferred from the above points)
* can be run simultaneously to other gps software (I only tried it once with TomTom, but did not have any problem in either app)
* small and simple, does what is required, and does it well
I am a fan :-D
I'll give it a try and see how it works, even though you appear to have tested it on a Tytn II already, I have a Tilt.
I like the convenience of TrackMe uploading everything to the website with the nice web viewer, and I've written some various things to extract the data, including a Perl script to geotag images from the same data. But there are times I just need a GPX file, maybe even to record it right there and mail it on the fly or such.
Considering light is one of your main requirements, not sure you want to add many features but one thing you might consider is also generating KML output. KML will plug right into Google Maps Mobile and is generally 'easier' for other people to use.
I'll try it out today, cheers!
Hi arman. You're better at this than I
Thanks khaytsus, any comments would be received with the welcome that a Mountain Dew would get if it ever came to the UK.
Nice app mendhak. I would of used something like this on my trip to Thailand last year. I ended up using Beeline.
What solution did you use to keep the GPS on while allowing the screen to turn off to save on power (and stop the PDA from getting hot).
One of my other threads has a few suggestions, Blackme and PhoneAlarm, both I don't find easy solutions.
Not usable for cycling
Is it possible to remove the limitation on the polling interval? 60 seconds is way too high if you want to use this program for tracking during cycling.
I'm still looking for a program that can do the job while the device is in standby mode. I have already tested a few, and up till now GPSCyclingComputer is the only program that I can use for this, but it's not really working well in standby (you can turn of the display, but you can't put the device in standby).
Anyway, thanks for the effort.
Hi, love the concept of your app. It's exactly what I'm looking for to geo tag photos.
Unfortunately I can't get it to work. My Bluetooth attached GPS works fine with other apps (and tomtom) on my Hermes but your app falls over.
I've selected the correct COM port and baud (default 4800) but when I click 'start', no data comes through. If I stop, enable verbose mode and click start again, the app crashes with an 'unexpected error' null reference exception (and a page of info too long to type, but let me know if you want it).
I had to the a photo to read it, but right before the error box pops up the screen reads:
"textbox.Opening....
Com Port COM2 Is Not On Device. The
GPS data is:"
I tried changing com ports in the bluetooth setup, no dice.
Any ideas?
can u explain, what does "Polling Rate" means?
can u make the logging interval to 1second? which means, the GPS coordinates are logged/recorded for every 1 second?..
Thank you
Looking for a light GPS logger and tried GPSTracka, but it doesn't work on my HTC Rose/S740. I get this error when trying to launch the app:
GPSTracka.exe
NotSupportedException...
Saw on CodePlex that it might be related to the fact that it's not a touch screen phone; any plan of making a version for smartphones?
Thought I was subscribed to the thread, didn't realize the replies came in, so I'm sorry for being late.
@icemantwilight - try it with the latest version on codeplex... it uses the GPS Intermediate drivers, and you can specify device names, so that means that the GPS bluetooth device should work now.
@pcboyy - The polling rate simply means that it will open up the GPS port and read from it every x seconds. To conserve battery, you'd obviously use a large polling rate. If you want more continuous points, then set it lower.
@jgeerts: Done, it can be set to a lower value than the default of 60.
@tytn2user: I stop the GPS port after every read, then use a timer to wait and then do the next read. The act of opening the port is what starts draining the battery (and hurt my thighs ), so this helps.
Wow! This is an awesome application! Just what I was looking for, for geotagging my photos. Great work Mendhak.
I have a little problem though. I'm trying to import the GPX file to an application called GPScorrelate, in order to add GPS coordinates into photos' EXIF, but I receive this error...as if the data format is wrong:
"Unable to read file 20090822_194822.gpx for some reason. Please try again"
I thought GPX was a unified format.
My example GPX file contains:
<?xml version="1.0"?>
<gpx version="1.0" creator="GPSTracka - http://www.mendhak.com/" xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance" xmlns="http://www.topografix.com/GPX/1/0" xsi:schemaLocation="http://www.topografix.com/GPX/1/0 http://www.topografix.com/GPX/1/0/gpx.xsd">
<time>2009-08-22T16:48:22Z</time>
<wpt lat="34.6884017" lon="33.050615">
<time>2009-08-22T16:48:22Z</time>
</wpt>
<wpt lat="34.6884817" lon="33.0506">
<time>2009-08-22T16:49:24Z</time>
... etc
Is there something I could do with GPS Tracka to correct this problem? Or could it be an issue with the GPScorrelate application?
Unfortunately I didn't find many alternative programs for Linux for do further testing.
Greetings, glad you like it!
Yes, GPX is definitely unified, so I'm wondering if GPSCorrelate is looking for a node that isn't there. Do you have an example of a GPX file that does work with GPSCorrelate? If the GPX file doesn't work with that software, try changing a few settings.
Go to the settings in GPSTracka, and change it from tracks to points or vice versa. Perhaps GPSCorrelate wants tracks because it's trying to interpolate the location of your photos?
mendhak said:
Greetings, glad you like it!
Yes, GPX is definitely unified, so I'm wondering if GPSCorrelate is looking for a node that isn't there. Do you have an example of a GPX file that does work with GPSCorrelate? If the GPX file doesn't work with that software, try changing a few settings.
Go to the settings in GPSTracka, and change it from tracks to points or vice versa. Perhaps GPSCorrelate wants tracks because it's trying to interpolate the location of your photos?
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Yup, you are right! GPSCorrelate expected tracks as an input. I created a test log with tracks and it was accepted by GPSCorrelate.
Everything should work fine now.
Thank you for this great application and support. I will definitely keep track of this GPSTracka and install any newer versions you release
GREAT application But I noticed small problem also...
I discovered Your great app today and I will test it soon better. Its great it works as it works (runs GPS module in time intervals, not constantly, and on standby also) and I hope to get small battery drain. I have Samsung I780 and even having two batteries it is difficult to log whole day of trekking with any other app I tested.
I have noticed some small problem at the begining - Google Maps Mobile cannot open klm files generated by Your app. I tested other klm files I have (from BeeLineGPS and NoniGPSPlot) and it works, but when I try open one of Your app`s KLM it shows that klm files cannot be opened becouse it contains errors.
I will check tommorow if I can open it with Google Maps on PC.
Anyway, Your app is a little shiny diamond and I will try to promote it on PDAClub forum
Hello, I am using your program for a while and I think it's great. I am trying to log a route though and I want it to run the gps every 2 seconds (I don't mind the battery drain). I set it to do that but instead it runs every 6 or 7 seconds. I am guessing that is because it turns the gps off. What can I do to have it keep the gps open?
I noticed a pauze in the advanced settings. What does this pauze mean?
I am a psychotherapist and would love an app to do this:
At 15 minutes from the end of an appointment a gentle sound would play to remind me that I should wrap things up
At 10 minutes a different sound to REALLY wrap things up
At the end of the appointment a different loud sound should signal.
What do you think? I don’t believe anything like this exists.
- I would love if the program could have a configurable number of reminders and sounds to play.
- It would also be great if it would only do this for appointments with a specific category and status.
- It would also help if you could configure the volume to be at the system volume setting, or a specified volume.
- It would be nice if there was a big button to enable/disable the whole thing.
Do you think? Would this be hard to write? Would someone be up for the challenge?
I am guessing other professions would benefit from it e.g. lawyers, massage therapists, anyone who works by the hour. A small niche, but one who would really eat this app up
Thanks!
Mark
Interesting idea.
I might add it to my list of Windows Mobile applications to develop depending on how things shape up. This looks like a good application to offer in the sub $3-$5 price range.
Hi Frazell,
Glad you may be interested. I used to develop software, so I can be a good beta tester, and think that I can specify what I am looking for well. Hopefully we can make a good developer-tester team. Let me know. Sounds fun to the be user for once .
Thanks,
Mark
frazell said:
Interesting idea.
I might add it to my list of Windows Mobile applications to develop depending on how things shape up. This looks like a good application to offer in the sub $3-$5 price range.
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speed_mark said:
At 15 minutes from the end of an appointment a gentle sound would play to remind me that I should wrap things up
At 10 minutes a different sound to REALLY wrap things up
At the end of the appointment a different loud sound should signal.
- I would love if the program could have a configurable number of reminders and sounds to play.
- It would also be great if it would only do this for appointments with a specific category and status.
- It would also help if you could configure the volume to be at the system volume setting, or a specified volume.
- It would be nice if there was a big button to enable/disable the whole thing.
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Hi,
I am fairly certain I could Mort script your entire wishlist posted here. Mortscript is not as cool as a .net app, but does not lack in speed or power.
Wouldn't be too hard. Obviously a lot of timing logic, but no big deal. There are already a number of timing scripts that I am sure would plug right in.
I don't know if anybody would be interested if I pushed it out? I may use this concept app as a test showcase (big word) for my HTML based Mortscript menus. This means the Buttons you push to start/dismiss alarms can look real nice with a background or color scheme.
Thanks for listening,
Keith
Hi Guys,
I would be absolutely delighted if either if you gave it a shot. I tried to flesh out my specs. Not all of these are necessary for me, but I tried to think of how to make it as attractive as possible or a wide range of users.
- An unlimited number of reminders with different sounds/volumes. Perhaps you can specify with timing from the beginning or end of the appointment. i.e. you can specify 10 minutes from the end, or ten minutes from the beginning
- The volume should be selectable as a system volume or specific volume. This is important since I often want all OTHER reminders to be silent while I am in an appointment.
- Vibrate option
- A play test button on the screen where you choose the sound to test how it will actually sound
So the screen to set up sounds may look like this:
_(Sound file)_ _(minutes)_ _(from begin/end)_ _ (Vol)_ _(Vibrate?) _ (Play Button)_
_(Sound file)_ _(minutes)_ _(from begin/end)_ _ (Vol)_ _(Vibrate?) _ _ (Play Button)_
_(Sound file)_ _(minutes)_ _(from begin/end)_ _ (Vol)_ _(Vibrate?) _ _ (Play Button)_
__(Add Another Reminder Button)___
- The (Add Another Reminder Button) shown above will add another line.
- Perhaps different profiles based on appointment status/category/time combinations.
- Perhaps profile switching from the command line so it can be controlled by a third party profile app (e.g. phone alarm)
- Perhaps three big digital clocks current time; elapsed appointment time; remaining appointment time.
- It should not put an unnecessary drain on the battery. i.e. it should allow the phone to sleep if they do not want to see the clock screen on all the time. Obviously it would still wake to ring the reminder tones .
- Perhaps a finger friendly manual profile switch button.
- Perhaps a finger friendly enable/disable button
- Perhaps an easy way to make it start up with the phone automatically.
If profiles are too complicated, it would be fine without profiles, as long as you can enable/disable the program by the command line. That way other profile managers can handle that. I think that without profiles the program should be relatively easy. Perhaps profiles can be a 2.0 idea.
Thanks!
Mark
Hi guys,
Well I could not help myself - I ended up coding it myself in Mortscript. Thanks Keith for the reference to Mortscript - I had seen the name on the board, but had never known what is was.
Unfortunately, it is all hard-coded to my requirements. I do not know how to put a user-interface on it so that it would be extensible to other users. Perhaps this is what you were going to do Keith?
Thanks,
Mark
That is great.
Could you post the script?
I was going to start with the user interface first. I wasn't too thrilled to set up the reminder code, so this is a bonus.
I can also add code to store settings and whatnot if you have not done so already...
Hi Keith,
Here we go. I have tried to make the code as easy as possible to follow. You will see the first few section are all the parameters which are currently hard-coded, and would need to be made accessible via the interface you write.
Currently it only works in Pacific Daylight Savings Time. The variable offset is coded for this. Perhaps you can figure out how to get this to work for all time zones.
I also have another problem. If the phone goes to sleep, the alarms will not work. I am guessing I need to put some sort of logic to put a program in the notification queue or something. Any ideas? Can you do this on your side?
Thanks,
Mark
OK, I solved the issue with the phone going to sleep. I also added a few new features.
It still does not work other time zones - perhaps you have some ideas.
There are two files "reminder.mort" starts the program; "reminderKill" stops the program.
Here you go. Enjoy!
Mark
Hi.
As fast as I can I am finishing up my Ringtone update.
There is a timezonebias command and I expect that will fix the time zone issue.
"Phone goes to sleep". I wonder what that means . But seriously. I am fairly certain I will get to peruse your code and set up a interface for it maybe even by tomorrow night (elves willing).
Great Keith!
I am excited to see what it would look like
So I have been digging in.
I am just posting a initial start alpha.
It's not working, just for show.
I did drop it into a cab file so u can install/uninstall it.
Tomorrow am i will get it so it is functional from the menus.
Hey Keith,
That is looking like a nice start!
Mark
Betterer Version
So this version connects most of the dots.
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Why don't u enclose 3 sound files so we can cab em up and set them as default sounds?
Delete your ini file if you are just copying mscr over.
Maybe next version i will make sure it baks up and is able to restore from a reinstall. Probly better to store them in the registry for just such an emergency. ("I keep my feathers numbered...", Foghorn Leghorn)
Hey Keith,
That rocks! Very cool!
Here are some issues/suggestions I had - you probably are aware of many:
-I tried to run it with the latest "stable" mortscript, and all I got was an error that the sub "Mortscript" was not found.
-I then downloaded the latest beta from the website; the program then connected and downloaded another even later version. It then got an error trying to install that version. I moved the file it downloaded to the right place, and then finally it worked .
- Can we make the interface a little easier to use with your fingers? Particularly the "Activate/Deactivate buttons"?
- Can we have a check box "Automatically Run At Startup (in the background)"?
- Can we make the other reminder parameters configurable by the interface i.e."time"; "flashes"; vibrate"
- I like the INI file idea - that is cool.
Congratulations! Super cool!
I will ZIP up the sound files tomorrow for you.
Mark
Version 4.2 doesnt support CallFunction. We (the royal "we") easily could rewrite it so it treats all the variables as global and then could revert to a lesser mort version.
I will look into fixing the auto install of the new mortscript. I have a MotoQ smartphone and can't use the download command on my phone. Small matter.
Activate/Deactivate button - Have to think of how to show this. I will whip out a simple way for starters. 3 buttons on Main app screen. Activate/DeActivate/Settings. Make the text button size large so the first 2 buttons show.
Automatically Run At Startup - We can have another shortcut just run the ReminderActivate and maybe vibrate signalling on. Is that what you mean? Picard could say energize, I have a tiny wav file that says that. Also a sleepmessage could show and go away.
"time"; "flashes"; vibrate" - You may have outlined this in your phase 2 details. I will need to review the list. If you havent mentioned them feel free to elaborate.
I just had to get the main framework laid out.
Glad it's shaping up.
Hey Keith,
1. I am enclosing three sounds files that work for me.
2. Various options. You will see that all the variables defined at the beginning of my script were designed to be user configurable. The volume, flash and vibrate functionality is already there, you just need to set the variables in the same way as you set the sound file.
ie:
# the appointment busy and catagory status needed. Blank = no requirement
requiredBusyStatus = "2"
requiredCatagory = ""
# Info about each alarm: seconds to end; volume level (-1 = system vol); flash n times; soud file; vibrate n times
level0Time = 0
volume0 = 255
flash0 = 0
soundFile0 = ""
vibrate0 = 0
3. Startup. I am not sure the best way to do. Perhaps a Right Softkey saying "Autostart RemindUs" or a checkbox on the main screen. If they select it, it will just start the program automatically in the background when the phone starts.
Thanks!
Mark
Hi.
Update soon...
i switched from blackberry 8900 only because it didnt have 3g so the internet and maps were slow...
otherwise it was a great device it was very quick OS
when i want to call someone i just type in their name and it gives me option to call or email or txt.
i open my pictures and brows thru them i have a menu option to use the image as a wallpaper or other actions
theres a camera flash
theres a 3.5 headphone jack
theres a trackball!!!!
i have never had to use two hands to do any operation on that phone.
every lil action could be done with one hand and that is the best feature of blackberry.
i understand this phone is not blackberry.
i do like the phone
i love the big screen and ridiculous resolution!!!!(something blackberry lack for now)
i love the speakerphone and the face down/spkr phone feature
i definitely love the free apps and other tweaks that are available for this device.
the regedit the file browser the millions of settings
the micro sd card being on the side
now the bad parts
the user interface is painfully slow and unresponsive.
to make a call i have to press the talk button then press contacts(because scrolling with your finger is worthless it will catch on first damn contact and start calling it right away)
and then you have to cancel the call and start over
this time thru your phonebook...
and to txt i still havent figured out an easy way to start a txt message for a contact from your recent calls or phone book
theres no button for camera shutter its a big ugly ahole looking image on the screen.
it is definitely not made for finger operation
i have to use stylus for almost everything
browsing without stylus is stupid.
the zoom bar works whenever it feels like and so far only in 2 programs
itsa windows OS and wtf theres no landscape or soom bar feature in internet explorer but they are both available in opera?? makes no sensei
the display is already loose even though i only tilted it maybe 15 20 times
theres no option to set wallpaper from image preview!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! like every other phone ( even motorazr had that feature)
please help me to figure this phone out
fuzzysig said:
...now the bad parts
the user interface is painfully slow and unresponsive.
to make a call i have to press the talk button then press contacts(because scrolling with your finger is worthless it will catch on first damn contact and start calling it right away)
and then you have to cancel the call and start over
this time thru your phonebook...
and to txt i still havent figured out an easy way to start a txt message for a contact from your recent calls or phone book
theres no button for camera shutter its a big ugly ahole looking image on the screen.
it is definitely not made for finger operation
i have to use stylus for almost everything
browsing without stylus is stupid.
the zoom bar works whenever it feels like and so far only in 2 programs
itsa windows OS and wtf theres no landscape or soom bar feature in internet explorer but they are both available in opera?? makes no sensei
the display is already loose even though i only tilted it maybe 15 20 times
theres no option to set wallpaper from image preview!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! like every other phone ( even motorazr had that feature)
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1. Regarding the interface being slow, this is subjective. It also depends on what ROM you have. The ROM I have loaded is quite fast in my opinion.
2. You can also make a call just like a blackberry. When you're in the home screen, just slide open the keyboard and type the name of the person you want to call. The dialer will automatically launch and filter your contacts according to what you typed.
3. Easy way to text someone in your contacts. Go to the SMS tab. Tap the icon for new message. In the "To" field, just start typing the name of the person. It will autocomplete.
4. If you want to text someone you recently spoke with, open the dialer by pressing the call hardware button. Now you can see who you recently spoke with. On the right of each contact, there's an icon that looks like a contact card. Tap it. Here you can choose to call or email. You can also text by tapping on the icon to the right that looks like a speech bubble. That's 3 actions to get to the compose screen.
5. Yes, there's no dedicated button for the camera shutter. But you can compensate by mapping other keys to do the job. I've mapped the volume up key to act as the camera shutter only in the camera app. If you don't want to map keys, you can also open your keyboard and use the enter key as the shutter button.
6. My experience regarding the stylus is the opposite of yours. I never have to use it. I think it's because you need to understand how to use a resistive touch screen. Tip: apply pressure.
7. Zoombar is indeed limited in its usefulness. But it works in more than 2 programs. Just off the top of my head, it works in Word, Excel, Opera, Album, and Adobe Reader.
8. I never use Internet Explorer and, honestly, neither should anyone. So, I don't really care about it's features.
9. My display is still nice and sturdy. But experiences vary from one to another.
10. If you're using Sense/Manila/TF3D, you can only set your wallpaper via the settings tab or with HDWall. If you're just using the standard Today screen, it can be set via the Today settings or the WinMo default Pictures and Videos app. But I'm someone who doesn't change their wallpaper every other hour. So, this doesn't bother me at all.
fuzzysig said:
now the bad parts -- I'll try to help you with these.
the user interface is painfully slow and unresponsive.
to make a call i have to press the talk button then press contacts(because scrolling with your finger is worthless it will catch on first damn contact and start calling it right away)
and then you have to cancel the call and start over
this time thru your phonebook...
and to txt i still havent figured out an easy way to start a txt message for a contact from your recent calls or phone book
theres no button for camera shutter its a big ugly ahole looking image on the screen.
it is definitely not made for finger operation
i have to use stylus for almost everything
browsing without stylus is stupid.
the zoom bar works whenever it feels like and so far only in 2 programs
itsa windows OS and wtf theres no landscape or soom bar feature in internet explorer but they are both available in opera?? makes no sensei
the display is already loose even though i only tilted it maybe 15 20 times
theres no option to set wallpaper from image preview!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! like every other phone ( even motorazr had that feature)
please help me to figure this phone out
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Do you have the stock ROM or did you flash a custom ROM? Custom ROMs usually have a lot more speed, but some are unstable. Since you only have 4 days, I think you should only flash your ROM if you have at least 24 hours total of free time (to work out some kinks, and if you do return it, you need to reflash the stock ROM and stuff).
To make a call, just bring up the phone dialer (Talk/Send hardware button). To find names, just tap in the name in the dialer (ie. if you want to call John, just press/dial "5646" ["J" is in 5, "O" is in 6, "H" is in 4, "N" is in 6]; the phone is smart enough to try to recognize the name you want); you don't need to scroll down the whole list for John.
To text someone from the Call history in the phone dialer screen, press the small icon to the right of the name (looks like a business card), and that brings you to a screen with options to contact them.
Camera shutter... can't blame you there, but if iPhone pulled that off, I guess HTC felt they could pass that virtual "shutter" button.
**The key to maneuvering in the screen (resistive screen; needs pressure to work), is by using your nails. Think of your nail as a stylus, and you should be better.**
IMO, Pocket Internet Explorer is horrible (interface and speed). Opera Mobile is better.
Don't know what you mean by "image preview." Sorry.
well when im browsing thru images in album i can set wallpaper from there. because the default wallpaper setup program doesnt preview the images it just gives you the thumbs and once you click it the wallpaper is set...
the touch screen is the problem tho.
i dont have nails so alot of times when i try to use my thumb it will catch onto something and i end up waiting untill it processes through or wrong person dialing.
and the damn keyboard button is the worst i have to press it at least 3 times to get rid of onscreen keyboard.
i have itouch and its so much easier to use with finger especially when browsing.
internet explorer doesnt bother me i like it because it reenders webpages differently. i got used to it when i was learning web design since it would show most accurate page layout and graphics by default.
i was on stock TMO rom that came out of the box with the phone.
iupdated to EnergyROM_28011_RHODIUM_25.Dec.2009_StandardM2.5_MaxManila
and it is even slower now
is there a specivic rom you guys suggest that i should try to see if it speeds up.
i want to see if the 6.5 tmobile update will bring any improvements or not.
Try MightyMike's ROM
I suggest you try one of MM's roms. I only suggest you try one of his stable releases. He has several works in progress, but his latest stable release is seeming to be very good and snappy. It also uses less system RAM.
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=79579 - Thread discussion
http://www.mightyrom.com/ - Mighty Mike's website
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Also, depending on when you purchased your phone, and from whom, you may have more time than you think. Many carriers offer extended return times over the Christmas season. I do believe that VZW offers all phones purchased from at least Nov 27 to be returned 'till Jan 15. Those specs. could be off a little due to poor memory, but it is something like that. Might be worth looking into.
Good Luck, and I hope you end up extremely happy with whichever device you end up with!
MM = Poor ROM choice...in this situation!
Devoncoon said:
I suggest you try one of MM's roms. I only suggest you try one of his stable releases. He has several works in progress, but his latest stable release is seeming to be very good and snappy. It also uses less system RAM.
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=79579 - Thread discussion
http://www.mightyrom.com/ - Mighty Mike's website
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MM's ROMs are for CDMA only. Fuzzysig just said he had a stock T-Mobile ROM. Verizon, Telus, and Sprint are CDMA. T-Mobile and AT&T are GSM. If he flashed a CDMA ROM onto his GSM phone, that would be a disaster!
fuzzysig said:
and the damn keyboard button is the worst i have to press it at least 3 times to get rid of onscreen keyboard.
i have itouch and its so much easier to use with finger especially when browsing.
i was on stock TMO rom that came out of the box with the phone.
iupdated to EnergyROM_28011_RHODIUM_25.Dec.2009_StandardM2.5_MaxManila
and it is even slower now
is there a specivic rom you guys suggest that i should try to see if it speeds up.
i want to see if the 6.5 tmobile update will bring any improvements or not.
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Yeah, the new keyboard buttons are stupid. You just have to press all the way at the left edge of the button (took some practice for me).
I love EnergyROMs (my favorite ROM is still EnergyROM Dec.4 Leo build 28008). The reason it's even slower is because you have MaxManila, which I heard slows down the system a bit.
I recommend the ROM I'm currently running (check the sig). It's sort of lite, but has some apps that help you tweak the phone (like EnergyROMs, but less apps; the flaw of EnergyROMs, IMO, is that NRG puts in a lot of apps so it's ready to go, but that starts counting towards bloatware). Valkyrie ROMs are light on memory (running 5 apps and RAM usage is still below 75%), and they're pretty smooth. The one I have is using the new Leo package, which has HTC landscape support! But because it's a new Leo package, you sill can't use Manila tweaks like HDWalls and Maxmanila (developers need to rewrite scripts, I think). Here's a post with 4 screenshots of the ValkyrieROM LEO in landscape.
OOPS
sumflipnol
Nice catch!! I'm very glad you caught this before any harm was done. I completely missed that aspect. I would have felt Horrible if I was the cause of someone bricking their device from my advice!
With this new information, I suggest that you first switch to Verizon and then run Mighty Mike's ROMs!!
Regarding GSM/CDMA ROMs
The thought just ocurred to me. The Touch Pro 2 is a World phone, and therefore has both CDMA and GSM capability. I have no idea if this makes sense or not, but I was just wondering if the CDMA/GSM ROM issue is relevant in this case?? Is the hardware different between T-Mobile/AT&T and VZW/Sprint or is it the same?
Maybe I am totally off in left field, I don't know....
Devoncoon said:
The thought just ocurred to me. The Touch Pro 2 is a World phone, and therefore has both CDMA and GSM capability. I have no idea if this makes sense or not, but I was just wondering if the CDMA/GSM ROM issue is relevant in this case?? Is the hardware different between T-Mobile/AT&T and VZW/Sprint or is it the same?
Maybe I am totally off in left field, I don't know....
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I'm not an expert, but what I think is by "World" phone, they refer to the capability of being used anywhere due to the Quadband 2G support. If the device is from a GSM company, the device will only come with a GSM-compatible hardware radio. If the device is from a CDMA company, it has the capabilities of using both GSM and CDMA bands, but the hardware radio is still native to CDMA.
And again, this is what I think prohibits us from flashing GSM ROMs onto CDMA devices and vice versa. If I'm wrong, I would appreciate if someone with more knowledge could clear this up. Unless, of course, this is one of the "just don't do that" rules!
sumflipnol said:
I'm not an expert, but what I think is by "World" phone, they refer to the capability of being used anywhere due to the Quadband 2G support. If the device is from a GSM company, the device will only come with a GSM-compatible hardware radio. If the device is from a CDMA company, it has the capabilities of using both GSM and CDMA bands, but the hardware radio is still native to CDMA.
And again, this is what I think prohibits us from flashing GSM ROMs onto CDMA devices and vice versa. If I'm wrong, I would appreciate if someone with more knowledge could clear this up. Unless, of course, this is one of the "just don't do that" rules!
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That's essentially correct and close enough to the truth for govt work..
Thanks for the Clarification.
I kinda figured that it would be too good to be true. I am still somewhat confused how the CDMA radio accesses GSM signal, but I will leave it for another time in another thread...
If you tried to add a new contact number from the call history, then you would know the simple task of saving a contact number is very frustrating. Maybe the windows phone team was busy making an entertainment device and forgot that people actually use their smart-phone to do phone thing. To demonstrate, let go through the step of adding a contact and find out if your hair will turn gray during the process. Here we go.
On the call history, users can touch the unsaved contact number (I use a fake btw) and they’ll be presented with its profile and history. To save the number to a new contact, just touch that floppy disk button to save. No sweat, lets move on to screen 3.
“Uhhh, wait what’s going on here? I just need to save the number for cutie Jane. What’s all this crazy choose a contact stuff?”
That was the though when I first encountered this “choose a contact” screen. The confusion was that I just want to add a new contact, not “choosing” some contact. The cryptic “+” button eventually gave way, but I was on that screen longer than I should. New users will be confused and that’s the first usability issue that doesn’t need to be there. Lets go on to screen 4.
“Huh!? why do I need to edit phone number? Where can I enter the first and last name for Jane? WTFWP7!”
By this step the users just want to enter the name of their contact and be done with. This screen by all means is unnecessary. The contact number just came straight from call history, there is no need to edit unless you manually add a new contact from the people hub. Let move on to screen 5 and see if we can enter the name for Jane yet.
“I still can’t enter the name for Jane yet!!???? FFFFFFUUUUUUUUU ”
Inputting the name, if not earlier, should be shown at this step. But instead the users are presented with this summary information. Screen 5 shows the summary of all the information of the contact and the users can edit or additional information. This screen should be logically shown last. Raged level 100%.
Finally after 7 screens, the users can enter the contact and be done. It’s unfortunately 7 screens too many, the users are left provoked. There has got to be a better way to do this.
I propose steps reduction
On screen 3, the new contact option stands out at the top making it easier for people to figure out what to do as far as saving a new contact or merging it to existing contact are concerned. On screen 4, basic information like name, phone, and email are available for users to easily edit. The phone text box are pre-filled. This concept reduced two screen steps and it’s much more user friendly I think.
Further steps reduction will eliminate the screen 3 altogether. Follow below.
When the users decide to save the phone number from screen 2, they will immediately be shown the edit information screen where they can edit and save a new contact profile. If the users want to merge the phone number to an existing contact, the link button on the appbar is available. The link button will open up the contact list and allow the users to select the correct contact they want to link the new number to.
I think concept 2 significantly speed up the simple task of saving a contact and therefore also decrease frustration. Belfiore, please do this.
For now, people will still have to keep on wrestling with the ridiculously strenuous task of saving new phone numbers.
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New year so I decided to start blogging about windows phone. Going to write about rethinking ads display for windows phone and tiles soon.
Actually I didn't understand why it's more ridiculas process as per you.
Instead of clicking on "New Contact" in your screen, I click "+" on existing design.
You don't have to edit the number in the next screen, but you might need to edit what sort of phone number it's (home/mobile/etc..) and the next screen will give options (which can be made more user friendly, here i accept), but this screen should be there. I don't find myself adding 100 contact everyday. I add new contacts (may be 10) in a week and when I create them, I will be happy to enter complete details or ignore unwanted things.
If you didn't know what the + meant, you could have tapped the ... which would reveal what the icon is for.
That is common behavior in the OS. No less intutive as double tapping the button in the iPhone.
As far as editting. Sometimes you do need to edit. If someone calls from work, it may be one outgoing number but everyone has a direct dial.
(123)555-5500 is what is in call history, but to direct dial you may need (123)555-5518
How do you propose adding several numbers at once?
You get the mobile from caller id, but you also want to add home, work, and home and work email to it
Plus means add. Menus are at the bottom of screens. It doesn't get too much clearer.
I feel the exact same way as the OP. Way too many many steps for such a simple task. Another thing that absolutely bugs the hell outta me is no quick access to the dial pad. I hate having to click that tiny dialer icon on the call history page. I would like a pin to tile feature for the dialer or start on the dialer when clicking the phone tile.
Very humorous post, I feel your pain. Loved your mock ups, wish MS would take note.
vdubskey said:
I feel the exact same way as the OP. Way too many many steps for such a simple task. Another thing that absolutely bugs the hell outta me is no quick access to the dial pad. I hate having to click that tiny dialer icon on the call history page. I would like a pin to tile feature for the dialer or start on the dialer when clicking the phone tile.
Very humorous post, I feel your pain. Loved your mock ups, wish MS would take note.
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Download SmartDialer. There's an app for that.
I feel the same.
Furthermore I really feel bothered by not being able to directly make a new contact out of - by text message - received phone number
As I have to contact and get contacted by quite some new and unknown people every day, it would highly increase the efficiency of my work.
Hope there will be a way to do so, soon.
I like to add the country code properly and the formatting, remove all the (,) and - and replace + with 00. Because the first build of windows phone gave problems with calling otherwise (it would call a wrong number). My settings are on EnUS bc of more features on the phone, but I want my numbers in my local formatting not in EnUS. Hence for me the edit screen works well. Of course you can argue all countries should have all features thus no need for reformatting the number manually.
I like having the edit number screen pop up, because I like to get rid of the "1" that gets placed at the beginning.
I don't see the big deal. The very first time I entered a contact, it was a bit of "oh I see, I push this here", after that, since I'm older than 4 years old, I've remembered how and haven't given it a second thought.
I agree with the OP on this one. In my case, there is also an additional screen asking what service to create the contact on (Windows Live or Google). Necessary, but complicated.
It didn't really dawn on me until I was giving someone who recently got the phone my number and watched them stumble through the process.
stan2 said:
“Uhhh, wait what’s going on here? I just need to save the number for cutie Jane. What’s all this crazy choose a contact stuff?”
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Your proposal for "New contact" pseudo-contact on top of the list is non-sense, it breaks design guidelines, and is counter-intuitive. (+) bottom menu icon is there already...
?? Hum ?? It's pretty simple for me.
It seems to me a lot of people are concerning the first three screens, what do you guys think of the rest of the process? That's where all the frustration come for me personally. And my proposals deal mainly with reducing the steps.
Maybe it is just you... Those step are just necessary. I don't mind at all.
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This is very simple.
Wich steps would u remove ?
1 step gives u the option to add the phone number to an existing one or to create a new one.
The next step lets u choose if its a mobile number or maybe a work number or maybe...
Then u get the option to edit all contact details. Maybe u want to add an email or more.
These steps are totally necessary and they should stay the way they are. The Dialpad klicking should be reduced though.
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Download SmartDialer. There's an app for that.
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Should not need an app for that. A phone should go to the dialer when you lick "Phone" not call history. Apps are good, but they should not be a fix for bad design. Simply give the user an option. What pane do you want the phone to go to when you open up the Hub. I'm sure a majority of people would instantly switch that to dialer, too...
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Should not need an app for that. A phone should go to the dialer when you lick "Phone" not call history. Apps are good, but they should not be a fix for bad design. Simply give the user an option. What pane do you want the phone to go to when you open up the Hub. I'm sure a majority of people would instantly switch that to dialer, too...
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You lick your phone? Disgusting. But yeah, Microsoft should redesign that part. I for one would prefer the dialer opening up on tappig "Phone" with call history as an additional button (could replace the current dialer button then).
This is offtopic anyway.
Topic: I see no issues with adding contacts, to be honest. It's simple and works just fine. All I wish was that one was able to add contact information from within an email (from the footer for example).
I completely dissagree with the OP. The plus icon is very apparent to me. All buttons that add/remove/etc are always in the appbar. Then yes you get the option to add their name, email, set a ringtone, etc. I usually add all of that at the same time. Microsoft actually did research as to what most people what to do.
Tap # -> Save -> Plus -> Windows Live (I have a boat load of emails so lets just say I only live Windows Live) -> Save the actual number (great because we get the option to save it as a mobile, home, home 2, work, company, pager, fax and stuff which is great when you use the tell me service) -> And OMG OH NOES I can add their email and name and address while I'm at it (the world is going to end. what a world. I'm melting.) - > and then Save.
Yes it seems like a lot but who care. Most people only go into the contacts once and maybe twice. It really isnt that hard.
It took me a whole 20 seconds to do what I said above. Added a new number, set it as a work #, added first and last name, saved.
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I like having the edit number screen pop up, because I like to get rid of the "1" that gets placed at the beginning.
I don't see the big deal. The very first time I entered a contact, it was a bit of "oh I see, I push this here", after that, since I'm older than 4 years old, I've remembered how and haven't given it a second thought.
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Absolutely agree with this. I actually don't mind the way Microsoft implemented saving a new contact in the OS... it takes me seconds to add a contact. Hit save > hit + > edit the number if you need to (I don't call international directly so I like to take out the +1) > change number type (mobile or home) > save > add name and/or other info > save and done!
Although, I could see the ease of the "Screen 4" concept. Those are the most edited contact details and to have them on one screen would make it easier. You could email the Windows Phone Team your mock-up and explain your reasoning. Maybe they'll like it too and then you could tell the whole world how it was YOUR idea!
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i am fine with the way the add contact in the wp7... most likely MS want to make sure right info is keyed in to the right place... and one thing at a time the os do not have to check for 10 veriable in the saved info (alpha, numaric, free info boxetc...)
as i am using my out look to add my contact and update them to my windows live account so no issues..
Thanks OP. Im glad I'm not the only one that always get frustrated with adding a new contact everytime.
Only when adding a number to an existing FB contact then its much easier.