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I was about to get Mi A1 when I found out about Honor 7X... I always wanted a budget device with Project Treble and was really disappointed to find Mi A1 (which was My only hope in 2017) doesn't have Treble support even after Oreo update... I read that with Oreo, Honor 7X will have Project Treble support and Im super Excited about it... I have a few doubts... Even though it has been answer, I just want to be sure...
1. Will there be Treble for sure in Oreo (since its a Budget Phone and not a flagship like Mate 9 or 8 Pro)???
2. Is it for sure that it has a separate Vendor Partition which is necessary for Project Treble (There are methods to verify it and has anyone done verification)???
3. Will there be Good Development here as I Love trying something new and flashing new ROMs all the time (Im using Redmi 3S and it has Wonderful Custom ROM development with very active Developers and Im concerned I read complaints that Honor 6X had very less development)???
4. With Project Treble out, will ROMs created for Snapdragon devices with Treble work fine with Kirin powered Honor 7X (Since I have read only about ROMs developed for Kirin devices only working in Treble enabled Honor Devices, sorry if Im wrong as I didn't do intensive research)???
bharathulaganathan said:
I was about to get Mi A1 when I found out about Honor 7X... I always wanted a budget device with Project Treble and was really disappointed to find Mi A1 (which was My only hope in 2017) doesn't have Treble support even after Oreo update... I read that with Oreo, Honor 7X will have Project Treble support and Im super Excited about it... I have a few doubts... Even though it has been answer, I just want to be sure...
1. Will there be Treble for sure in Oreo (since its a Budget Phone and not a flagship like Mate 9 or 8 Pro)???
2. Is it for sure that it has a separate Vendor Partition which is necessary for Project Treble (There are methods to verify it and has anyone done verification)???
3. Will there be Good Development here as I Love trying something new and flashing new ROMs all the time (Im using Redmi 3S and it has Wonderful Custom ROM development with very active Developers and Im concerned I read complaints that Honor 6X had very less development)???
4. With Project Treble out, will ROMs created for Snapdragon devices with Treble work fine with Kirin powered Honor 7X (Since I have read only about ROMs developed for Kirin devices only working in Treble enabled Honor Devices, sorry if Im wrong as I didn't do intensive research)???
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Answers :
1. Yes there will be project treble when oreo is out
2. Yes one of the reason for treble to work is to have the seperate partition and it does thats the reason treble will work
3. No one can tell u this yet, but since Huawei is spreading its honor 7x all around the world more and team openkirin has the device so theres a better chance to have good development soon..
4. Why would there be a mix and match of roms? There are roms already available for our device but we are still skeptical if they would work so we havent tried them yet since it depends on the kirin processor number which matches with almost all the other devices having good development.. So they should work on 7x as well but again, we are not sure so nobody has tried it yet..
Good luck for you to chose your phone!
Treble should come (95% it will), because all Honor devices that got updated to Oreo (Beta or official) have Treble support
Since Huawei makes their own SoCs, porting Treble should be fairly easy. That, combined with the fact that they have ported Treble to even older phones (like the Mate 9), makes me fairly certain that yes, they WILL be porting Treble, and I would be genuinely surprised if they did not. Also, the fact that Treble separates the "low level" code, it shouldn't matter too much whether or not there are not many developers for this specific phone, as a OS developer (Like Lineage OS, Paranoid Android, and the like), can make a single flashable system.img for any Treble device! Thus, if somebody makes a ROM for the Pixel 2, it can run on any other Treble device, and this has even been proven with the Mate 9, running a clean generic AOSP ROM. Personally, I think it would be interesting to see Android GO ported to these midrange devices to see how fast they can be (and running, potentially, other non Android operating systems like Ubuntu, Sailfish OS, and others).
As the kernel sources are released for rn8 pro, is there anyone who is working on twrp for it???
girishjangir7 said:
As the kernel sources are released for rn8 pro, is there anyone who is working on twrp for it???
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I think there will not be any development so soon since the kernel resources were not fully released. Atm, I will wait for unlocking bootloader and global rom.
Erik Nhu said:
I think there will not be any development so soon since the kernel resources were not fully released. Atm, I will wait for unlocking bootloader and global rom.
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Kernel resources has been completely released
elango0206 said:
Kernel resources has been completely released
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Cool then there will be development starting soon
elango0206 said:
Kernel resources has been completely released
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Can you link the kernel source here so that it would be helpful for the xda devs:laugh:
girishjangir7 said:
Can you link the kernel source here so that it would be helpful for the xda devs:laugh:
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Link to the official sources : Github
Regards,
acervenky
elango0206 said:
Kernel resources has been completely released
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I was under the impression that the touchscreen drivers were not included in this release
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As the kernel sources are released for rn8 pro, is there anyone who is working on twrp for it???
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It's a Mediatek phone, so don't expect any custom ROMs.
Take a look back at the Xiaomi phones released with Mediatek chips and see how little support from developers it got
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It's a Mediatek phone, so don't expect any custom ROMs.
Take a look back at the Xiaomi phones released with Mediatek chips and see how little support from developers it got
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But take a look at redmi note 4 mtk and this phone is so popular it will surely get good development but not sure about the heat though
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But take a look at redmi note 4 mtk and this phone is so popular it will surely get good development but not sure about the heat though
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Redmi Note 4 MTK has absolutely no support and never really received a working custom ROM.
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Redmi Note 4 MTK has absolutely no support and never really received a working custom ROM.
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/re...t-redmi-note-4-mtk-roms-upgrade-t3636600/amp/
kairusds said:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/re...t-redmi-note-4-mtk-roms-upgrade-t3636600/amp/
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Exactly. The only fully working custom is Xiaomi.eu which is based on stock firmware with a few tweaks.
Redmi Note 4 MTK was released with Android 6 (Marshmallow) and never received a working Android 7 (Nougat).
Redmi Note 4 Snapdragon was also released with Android 6 and received Android 7 (Nougat), Android 8 (Oreo), Android 9 (Pie) and there is already an Android Q beta version released.
The choice is simply: If you want a custom ROM don't buy Mediatek
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Exactly. The only fully working custom is Xiaomi.eu which is based on stock firmware with a few tweaks.
Redmi Note 4 MTK was released with Android 6 (Marshmallow) and never received a working Android 7 (Nougat).
Redmi Note 4 Snapdragon was also released with Android 6 and received Android 7 (Nougat), Android 8 (Oreo), Android 9 (Pie) and there is already an Android Q beta version released.
The choice is simply: If you want a custom ROM don't buy Mediatek
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Let's wait, we never know! The (partial) source code release is a step forward. I think that the "missing" code parts have with the LCD to do and not with the chip anyway.
polfrank said:
Let's wait, we never know! The (partial) source code release is a step forward. I think that the "missing" code parts have with the LCD to do and not with the chip anyway.
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Is it yet not fully released???
girishjangir7 said:
Is it yet not fully released???
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https://www.xda-developers.com/xiaomi-redmi-note-8-pro-mediatek-helio-g90t-kernel-sources-released/
Here, look at this article. Look at the end of it.
elango0206 said:
Kernel resources has been completely released
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See this post by this guy he posted after the kernel has been released fully
Noter2017 said:
Exactly. The only fully working custom is Xiaomi.eu which is based on stock firmware with a few tweaks.
Redmi Note 4 MTK was released with Android 6 (Marshmallow) and never received a working Android 7 (Nougat).
Redmi Note 4 Snapdragon was also released with Android 6 and received Android 7 (Nougat), Android 8 (Oreo), Android 9 (Pie) and there is already an Android Q beta version released.
The choice is simply: If you want a custom ROM don't buy Mediatek
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There are many differences :
- Xiaomi never released Kernel sources on Note 4 (MTK), you can find Note 2 and 3's on their GitHub (very tardily released), but not Note 4's...they already release Note 8 Pro's
- Xiaomi didn't sell Note 4 in western countries...now they officially sell many devices in Europe.
- most western users bought SD625 version instead...MTK community wasn't that big
Sources are there, now Mediatek need a "best seller"...unless that, custom rom won't exist
In past, a team succeed in doing rom for several Mediatek's devices (M.A.D. Team)
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There are many differences :
- Xiaomi never released Kernel sources on Note 4 (MTK), you can find Note 2 and 3's on their GitHub (very tardily released), but not Note 4's...they already release Note 8 Pro's
- Xiaomi didn't sell Note 4 in western countries...now they officially sell many devices in Europe.
- most western users bought SD625 version instead...MTK community wasn't that big
Sources are there, now Mediatek need a "best seller"...unless that, custom rom won't exist
In past, a team succeed in doing rom for several Mediatek's devices (M.A.D. Team)
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Mediatek still isn't popular with developers and I wouldn't expect custom ROM. Snapdragon is always the safer bet
Noter2017 said:
Mediatek still isn't popular with developers and I wouldn't expect custom ROM. Snapdragon is always the safer bet
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But checkout Lenovo A7000 Plus development. It's a Mediatek phone with unbelievable development.
veenaprem said:
But checkout Lenovo A7000 Plus development. It's a Mediatek phone with unbelievable development.
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Your definition of unbelieveable is unbelievable
Anyone working on it ? I'm happy to test it
Waiting so long since AOSP is officially announced, and seeing other phone like Mix 2/2s Mi8 already got a custom rom made me sad
Those devices (most of them) have Beta ROMs from Xiaomi with updated drivers. That's why they have full 10 ROMs.
Sent from my Mi MIX 3 using Tapatalk
People are working on it, be patient.
Xiaomi released a timeline for MIUI 11 beta and global ROMs which can be found here.
TLDR; The Chinese beta ROM should be rolling out to the Mix 3 starting Sept 27th. The global ROM should be rolling out mid-October.
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Xiaomi released a timeline for MIUI 11 beta and global ROMs (pretty sure this is based on Android 10) which can be found here.
TLDR; The Chinese beta ROM should be rolling out to the Mix 3 starting Sept 27th. The global ROM should be rolling out mid-October.
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tested already
its base on Android 9
I'm-Swiftie1989 said:
tested already
its base on Android 9
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Awe man. Thanks for the info! How is it?
So..if our device has been confirmed to get Android 10, and MIUI 11 will still stick to Pie...when we will get it? When Android 11 will be avaible? Just saying..
Its simple. First we will get MIUI 11 based on Pie, later we will get update to newer Android still with MIUI 11.
Giuskiller said:
So..if our device has been confirmed to get Android 10, and MIUI 11 will still stick to Pie...when we will get it? When Android 11 will be avaible? Just saying..
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MIUI's naming convention doesn't necessarily align with Android's. Hence why some devices running MIUI 11 are based off Pie while others are based off Android 10. Xiaomi will probably update MIUI 11 to Android 10 in future updates for the devices which aren't already.
Rockmadeofrock said:
MIUI's naming convention doesn't necessarily align with Android's. Hence why some devices running MIUI 11 are based off Pie while others are based off Android 10. Xiaomi will probably update MIUI 11 to Android 10 in future updates for the devices which aren't already.
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I knew about MIUI acting differently from EMUI. But not updating OS makes almost no sense, because Mix 3 is a device with one year of life. Should have priority in major updates or am i wrong? Anyway, i think it should get at least 2 majors when time will come. Thanks for the answer
it's out with .eu rom ^^. Very smooth. Nice looking.
Did you wipe data before flashing it?, I flashed ir right away without knowing it was android 10 based and it is glitched as hell, with apps crashing and such.
Dirty flash
All my stuff is working. No force close, but slow with multi-tasking. battery life is amazing
Bug I found :
assistant don't work with the ai button.
Loud speaker don't work
Znuf said:
Dirty flash
All my stuff is working. No force close, but slow with multi-tasking. battery life is amazing
Bug I found :
assistant don't work with the ai button.
Loud speaker don't work
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dirty flash which rom MIUI 11 ?
Yes 9.9.27
actually im working on LineageOS 17.0 and AOSP
but till now full of bugs
and i need help
if any dev read this and wanna help
plz telegram me on
https://t.me/GhaithSYR
samusamu2304 said:
Did you wipe data before flashing it?, I flashed ir right away without knowing it was android 10 based and it is glitched as hell, with apps crashing and such.
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I just updated from MIUI 10.3.2.0 global stable (android 9) to MIUI 11.1 Xiaomi.eu weekly beta (9.12.12 based on android 10) without any issues. I was rooted with TWRP installed on 10.3.2.0, here's what I did (this will wipe all your data so make backups beforehand):
Put Xiaomi.eu 9.12.12 on a USB-C flash drive (not necessary but a little easier than transferring it via cable)
Booted to TWRP
Wipe > Factory reset
Wipe > Format data (then typed 'yes' to confirm)
Wiped dalvik & cache
Went back to reboot options > booted to TWRP (recovery) again
Flashed 9.12.12 zip from flash drive
Wiped dalvik & cache
Booted to system. No app crashes or lag or anything
Also you can downgrade from the Xiaomi.eu android 10 ROMs. It's not super clear whether the Mix 3 has active anti-rollback or not (some sources say yes but plenty of people have been able to go back and forth without issue with an unlocked bootloader). I checked the ARB versions just to be safe and for 10.3.2.0 and 11.1 they are both 2 so there should be no issue downgrading with an unlocked bootloader.
Devs are waiting for this:
https://www.xda-developers.com/xiao...e-poco-f1-mi-mix-2s-mi-mix-3-mi-8-series/amp/
It is release now so we can expect android 10 custom rom soon.
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Devs are waiting for this:
https://www.xda-developers.com/xiao...e-poco-f1-mi-mix-2s-mi-mix-3-mi-8-series/amp/
It is release now so we can expect android 10 custom rom soon.
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Unfortunately the kernel they are referencing has to be for the 5G Mix 3. The perseus still only has a pie branch. I know a lot of people have been working on this, myself included. I got something to compile the other night, however it does not boot. I know there are smarter people than me working on this and I know how long it took to build a tree (with full kernel source) for the LG G3 when I was working on that device.
Edit: so poking around for the first time not on my phone, I found this: https://github.com/MiCode/Xiaomi_Kernel_OpenSource/tree/dipper-q-oss
That tree is now tagged like it's for many devices - I think a n00b made that commit, cause that makes NO SENSE AT ALL.
Kernel: Xiaomi kernel changes for MI 8, MIX 2S, MI POCO F1, MI 8UD, M…
…IX 3, MI 8 Explorer Edition Android Q.
The Patch based on QualComm release TAG: LA.UM.8.3.r1-05800-sdm845.0
The kernel config file used are dipper_user_defconfig,polaris_user_defconfig,beryllium_user_defconfig,
equuleus_user_defconfig,perseus_user_defconfig and ursa_user_defconfig.
Change-Id: Iaf4d5a3957eecd6ea182bdc4352c6343a13c0921
Signed-off-by: hehao <[email protected]>
I suppose it's possible /shrug.
PWn3R said:
Unfortunately the kernel they are referencing has to be for the 5G Mix 3. The perseus still only has a pie branch. I know a lot of people have been working on this, myself included. I got something to compile the other night, however it does not boot. I know there are smarter people than me working on this and I know how long it took to build a tree (with full kernel source) for the LG G3 when I was working on that device.
Edit: so poking around for the first time not on my phone, I found this: https://github.com/MiCode/Xiaomi_Kernel_OpenSource/tree/dipper-q-oss
That tree is now tagged like it's for many devices - I think a n00b made that commit, cause that makes NO SENSE AT ALL.
Kernel: Xiaomi kernel changes for MI 8, MIX 2S, MI POCO F1, MI 8UD, M…
…IX 3, MI 8 Explorer Edition Android Q.
The Patch based on QualComm release TAG: LA.UM.8.3.r1-05800-sdm845.0
The kernel config file used are dipper_user_defconfig,polaris_user_defconfig,beryllium_user_defconfig,
equuleus_user_defconfig,perseus_user_defconfig and ursa_user_defconfig.
Change-Id: Iaf4d5a3957eecd6ea182bdc4352c6343a13c0921
Signed-off-by: hehao <[email protected]>
I suppose it's possible /shrug.
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As a normal user, i can't understand what language you are speaking lol, just seen that post on xda news and i though that's a great news.
Great to know that there are devs still working on this phone!
Hello, i would change my chinese rom for get the feature phone recorder of Google. Someone Can help me and give me a ROM compatible with recorder phone from Lisa Xiaomi phones.
Thanks a lot.
ryuku38 said:
Hello, i would change my chinese rom for get the feature phone recorder of Google. Someone Can help me and give me a ROM compatible with recorder phone from Lisa Xiaomi phones.
Thanks a lot.
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Xiaomi.eu
They have their forum with guides (all instructions you need you will find there).
Create your account and if necessary ask further there
Weekly builds:
MIUI 13 - 22.10.26
Status: RELEASED RULES WHEN POSTING 1. If a ROM is not published DONT ASK ABOUT ITS ETA 2. If a ROM is not published DONT ASK why! 3. If a ROM is available, download it and use it 4. If a ROM has bugs, post the bug to the bug section if the BUG is not already listed 5. If you use any form of...
xiaomi.eu
Stable:
MIUI 13 - MIUI 13 STABLE RELEASE
Status: RELEASED RULES WHEN POSTING 1. If a ROM is not published DONT ASK ABOUT ITS ETA 2. If a ROM is not published DONT ASK why! 3. If a ROM is available, download it and use it 4. If a ROM has bugs, post the bug to the bug section if the BUG is not already listed 5. If you use any form of...
xiaomi.eu
zgfg said:
Xiaomi.eu
They have their forum with guides (all instructions you need you will find there).
Create your account and if necessary ask further there
Weekly builds:
MIUI 13 - 22.10.26
Status: RELEASED RULES WHEN POSTING 1. If a ROM is not published DONT ASK ABOUT ITS ETA 2. If a ROM is not published DONT ASK why! 3. If a ROM is available, download it and use it 4. If a ROM has bugs, post the bug to the bug section if the BUG is not already listed 5. If you use any form of...
xiaomi.eu
Stable:
MIUI 13 - MIUI 13 STABLE RELEASE
Status: RELEASED RULES WHEN POSTING 1. If a ROM is not published DONT ASK ABOUT ITS ETA 2. If a ROM is not published DONT ASK why! 3. If a ROM is available, download it and use it 4. If a ROM has bugs, post the bug to the bug section if the BUG is not already listed 5. If you use any form of...
xiaomi.eu
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Chinese rom not have feature phone recorder.
Google disable this feature.
ryuku38 said:
Chinese rom not have feature phone recorder.
Google disable this feature.
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Xiaomi.eu is not for China but for Europe and the world
zgfg said:
Xiaomi.eu is not for China but for Europe and the world
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Xiaomi.eu is a custom rom ..not for Europe or the world... Its for everyone
Harry Kam said:
Xiaomi.eu is a custom rom ..not for Europe or the world... Its for everyone
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My point/answer was that Xiaomu.eu (although built from CN beta) is not for China.
It's certified for Google, debloated from Chinese apps, built to support worldwide mobile data frequencies, etc
And the main point was that his statement:
"Chinese rom not have feature phone recorder.
Google disable this feature"
is completely wrong - not applicable to Xiaomi eu
Hi. What you think can we have some custom rom in the future?
The recovery tools for OnePlus have not been publicly available since the OnePlus 9 series, so development is going to be limited. If you search the forum, there are a few people working on a custom ROM but it's unknown what level of success will be had.
So far, the current options include a GSI which is generic, and doesn't include many device specific drivers, so not all features will work. The other option is rooting and using a Magisk ROM which can make OxygenOS look more like a Pixel ROM and boost customization. Both of these options require an unlocked bootloader.
Kopasz999 said:
Hi. What you think can we have some custom rom in the future?
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Yes it will happen, I hope in a few weeks. We're working on it. We did the LineageOS device trees, and kernel is compiling but it's still missing a few modules that make it non-bootable. For my part, I'm very determined, and will make it happen at all costs.
I'm still using my OnePlus 8 Pro daily despite having received my OnePlus 11 Pro. I absolutely LOVE the 11 hardware-wise (the fact it's a Marble Odyssey I imported from India to France helps) but I can't withstand Oppo's OxygenOS.
I'd really like more devs to join to make it happen.
Regarding MSMTools, I haven't tried to hack it, but as an experienced network hacker, I should have a look to it as I've recently learnt it's using auth now.
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The recovery tools for OnePlus have not been publicly available since the OnePlus 9 series, so development is going to be limited. If you search the forum, there are a few people working on a custom ROM but it's unknown what level of success will be had.
So far, the current options include a GSI which is generic, and doesn't include many device specific drivers, so not all features will work. The other option is rooting and using a Magisk ROM which can make OxygenOS look more like a Pixel ROM and boost customization. Both of these options require an unlocked bootloader.
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dekefake said:
Yes it will happen, I hope in a few weeks. We're working on it. We did the LineageOS device trees, and kernel is compiling but it's still missing a few modules that make it non-bootable. For my part, I'm very determined, and will make it happen at all costs.
I'm still using my OnePlus 8 Pro daily despite having received my OnePlus 11 Pro. I absolutely LOVE the 11 hardware-wise (the fact it's a Marble Odyssey I imported from India to France helps) but I can't withstand Oppo's OxygenOS.
I'd really like more devs to join to make it happen.
Regarding MSMTools, I haven't tried to hack it, but as an experienced network hacker, I should have a look to it as I've recently learnt it's using auth now.
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