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Hello!
I have recently bought the HTC Desire and I would like to ask, if it's inadvisable to keep the screen on for a longer period of time.
I would like to use the phone as a navigation device in a car, which means having the screen constantly on for several hours and phone charging via the 12V charger.
Can this cause any damage or negative effects to the phone?
Thank you!
No I don't think so.
Worst case scenario you'd do damage to the battery but new ones are fairly cheap on ebay.
This is not so clear, since amoled is relatively new technology. It is known that blue subpixel has limited lifespan, and that is reason for using Pen tile matrix in Desire. This kind of screen (Pen tile) has bigger blue subpixel which makes them last longer, but isue is clearly there. It is also preferable to not use bright background, and specially not blue one.
So, I would say until we have few years of experience with this display it is not advisable to use it for prolonged time on full brightness. Occasional use for navigation is not a problem, just not every day.
Its a facking phone with 2 years warranty. Who cares!
By next year and half, you will already be looking for a newer one.
Balos said:
Its a facking phone with 2 years warranty. Who cares!
By next year and half, you will already be looking for a newer one.
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thats 100% the attitude to have. It's not for life, its probably going to last you 2 - 3 years max before you change it anyway, so use it as intended. If the screen fails within 2 years you will get a new one from HTC. no hassle.
OMG you people do 2 - 3 years with a phone?? I am astonished! I couldn't bare to look at it after 1 full year. I've had this for a couple of weeks and I am already looking forward to the Pre Plus Europe release! Ok to be fair, I have been waiting for the damn thing since the original Pre.
Some phones die within a couple of months and some (even the same brand/model) last for or years. You never know, so make use of it and enjoy all that it has to offer!
My last phone, HTC Kaiser, lasted for 3 years
That was because I dont like upgrading to other WinMo, except I was interested into HD2.
But then Android is now good enough, especially with HTC Desire!
To OP: No, it wont harm your screen.
djind said:
OMG you people do 2 - 3 years with a phone?? I am astonished!
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hehe.. nope, not me. I reckon 12 - 18months MAX for me. I was just generalising. I think most people on here are "enthusiasts" and buy the latest technology when it comes out rather than using a phone until it breaks/gets lost etc like many non-techy phone users. And with technology changing so fast I reckon I will upgrade the Desire when something better comes out. I'll probably have the Desire for all of 2010 I reckon though. but when a better camera android phone comes out... I'm gone. xenon on the wish list. 8mp. and hopefully HTC.
Thanks guys, you really do have a point there
Although I've sent the same question to HTC and i will post the reply when i get one.
AMOLED suffers burn in worse than CRT, so yeah, it's not ideal.
2-3 years lifespan? I was thinking more 6-12 months before I buy a new phone...
Don't know how accurate this is, but if it is, I think we're having a useless discussion here:
Lifespan
The biggest technical problem for OLEDs is the limited lifetime of the organic materials.[41] In particular, blue OLEDs historically have had a lifetime of around 14,000 hours to half original brightness (five years at 8 hours a day) when used for flat-panel displays. This is lower than the typical lifetime of LCD, LED or PDP technology—each currently rated for about 60,000 hours to half brightness, depending on manufacturer and model. However, some manufacturers displays aim to increase the lifespan of OLED displays, pushing their expected life past that of LCD displays by improving light outcoupling, thus achieving the same brightness at a lower drive current.
In 2007, experimental OLEDs were created which can sustain 400 cd/m2 of luminance for over 198,000 hours for green OLEDs and 62,000 hours for blue OLEDs.
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From HTC:
"Kindly be informed that there should be no effect that could cause damage to the handset itself, however it will drain the battery faster. "
brrrbaybay said:
Don't know how accurate this is, but if it is, I think we're having a useless discussion here:
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If there is no discussion we would not learn anything, so obviously it is not useless.
Different colors age differently, so it is not just dimmer light, it is also color shift, which is more obvious to human eye, and appears much sooner than half brightness. 10% difference in one color is noticeable color shift.
Then some parts of display will age more (clock) depending on your homescreen.
And we still have no idea what is half brightness time for Desire display.
We are talking of wearing out of display. This is not covered by warranty. Do you get another set of tires if you drive them 24/7 at 100 km/h and wear them out while still under warranty?
I don't think it will be issue with normal use, but using it 8 hrs every day as car navigation at full brightness has some risk in it.
I try to do something that requires the camera (scanning a check, barcode scan, QR read, etc.) and remember that this phone has truly one of the worst cameras I've ever used.
Aganar said:
I try to do something that requires the camera (scanning a check, barcode scan, QR read, etc.) and remember that this phone has truly one of the worst cameras I've ever used.
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I've never had an issue with it (although I don't take pictures often...). The battery is the real killjoy for me... every 6 months it basically dies.
Exokan said:
I've never had an issue with it (although I don't take pictures often...). The battery is the real killjoy for me... every 6 months it basically dies.
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I've literally spent upwards of 20 minutes trying to scan a check before. My bank is not local so the Android app is the only way I can deposit checks that aren't direct deposit. The fact that the camera refuses to manually focus means that if it's not focusing properly, I basically have to quickly turn the camera somewhere else then turn it back to trigger refocus in the hopes that the next one will be better.
I would almost bet that this is a limitation of the app itself to properly use the camera. I have no issues focusing on close up objects with the phone's stock camera app but, I have had issues with other apps using the camera's focus.
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I basically have to quickly turn the camera somewhere else then turn it back to trigger refocus in the hopes that the next one will be better.
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Haha, I frequently have to do the same thing when scanning the QR code on Walmart receipts but honestly, it really depends on the lighting situation, I've found.
It does have a slow focus. As far as wanting to quickly take a picture, especially in low-light, forget it. You push the 'shutter' button, the screen zooms in and out, flickers, so you move the camera to set it down .... then it snaps the picture !
Exokan said:
I've never had an issue with it (although I don't take pictures often...). The battery is the real killjoy for me... every 6 months it basically dies.
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The first HTC phone I have owned that the battery died before my 2 year mark. Verizon sent me a new replacement under insurance warranty for free.
My feelings on the M9 (my two cents)
The HTC One M9 is the phone that sent me back to Apple. And I ADORE HTC.
The just-okay camera, the neutered, tinny Boomsound system (compare an M9 and M8 using Dolby Atmos; the M9 crackles and distorts while the M8 stays solid), the inexcusable heat from just running the Facebook app (which I completely understand is quite heavy), and the sub-par battery life even when micro-managing usage.
The neutering of the Boomsound system killed it for me. I had a Nexus 6p before whose front-firing speakers were an absolute pleasure to behold with Dolby Atmos or Viper audio. I had an M8 before that, and the sound quality was an exact match if not a bit quieter due to the smaller speaker drivers.
Moments before writing this, I purchased an HTC One Max. It's the perfect merging of the Nexus 6P I really liked, and the HTC quality I expect. They have camera issues, but they're damn solid otherwise. Highly repairable compared to its smaller M7 cousin, too! It's a 5.9" phone, though. If big phones aren't your thing, stay away. Otherwise, highly recommended.
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Really had high hope for this phone, but don't think they got it figured out. When I first got the phone, the camera housing already rattled a little, but it didn't bother me. You can also hear the motor moving when you press the power button. Now the camera won't extend fully no matter how many times I recalibrated it. No even had this phone for 6 weeks...Be aware if you're getting it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHRqrYYyr3o&feature=youtu.be
Have you used the calibration tool?
Go to Settings > Advanced > Flip camera features > Camera retraction (Or just long press the camera retraction tile) and use the "Calibrate camera angle" tool.
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Have you used the calibration tool?
Go to Settings > Advanced > Flip camera features > Camera retraction (Or just long press the camera retraction tile) and use the "Calibrate camera angle" tool.
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I have recalibrated it multiple times, as well as setting the default value.
I missed the part where you said that you had recalibrated it. My bad.
Let us know if you're able to warranty it without too much trouble.
Asus will repair it under warranty, but will ask you to pay shipping to send it back. It's been in their repair center for a week now waiting on parts.
I wanted this phone to succeed, and I waited over 5 months for it. But I already bought oneplus 7 pro and the pop up camera is much better IMO. Not gonna gamble on Asus products again, no matter how cool they look.
Try this:
Click for selfie, then use volume up button to turn flip camera all way to 90 degree. Do the same when camera is retracted.
I have the same issue, calibrated many times as well. Seems just decide sometimes to not do the full rotation.
Personally I just live with it and manually rotate it further with the on screen helper.
Well, after 5 months, this has happened to me, too. Camera won't fully extend, and kind of flops around. Not sure what happened. I don't use the selfie mode often, so I'm not even sure how long it's been like this. Guess I'll try sending it in to Asus? Sucks that this is the second time I'll be sending it in, in the short time I've had it (power button was loose when I first got it).
(Tried calibration, did not help)
I went searching to see if someone knows how to fix the camera motor. I sent my phone for warranty and they're claiming I damaged my phone which is interesting because my phone has never been dropped, hasn't even seen rain. I take better care of my phone than my own health tbh (I know that's nothing to be proud of lol). I disputed it but I'm sure they won't budge.
I bought my phone from B&H Photos because it was near impossible to find it in Canada at the time. When I received it, the flash was barely working (once in a while it'll work) so it was definitely manufacture defect, I didn't want to send it back and wait weeks for another one as I desperately needed a phone (pixel XL no longer held a charge) plus I didn't care much for flash. Forward 6 months later, camera motor stops working and I get that annoying error message that somethings wrong with the camera.
Attached is the quote from Asus...might as well buy another phone. I wish Google had expandable storage so I could get the "premium care" with it.
Morning All,
The last Samsung I had was an S2… so im reaching out to the Samsung people on here and those with a bit more insight than me…
I’ve had my S20 for a few days now (2nd one after my initial one was faulty).
I’m having major issues with it to the point I actually hate this phone.
Issue 1: Battery Drain
So, my first handset had to go back because the battery drain was so bad Samsung thought it must be faulty. My 2nd device isn’t much better.
I’ve come from a 2-year-old p20 pro which would use about 5% and hour with me using it none stop.
This S20 is using 5% every 30 mins... with no usage. As an example, I unplugged my phone at 100% at 8am this morning, it’s now 8:57 and my battery is at 87%... I’ve not used it.
Iv trawled XDA and tried a few things in terms of the screen settings, refresh rates, dark more, Natural instead of vivid, disabled apps, power control on apps, turn off 5g etc and then installing all my apps manually instead of Smart Switch on initial setup.... It’s still not lasting a day even with minimal usage.
It’s really really poor, I’m now thinking my first handset wasn’t faulty.... just this S20 is rubbish.
Issue 2: Wow how bad is the camera
So, my other issue is the camera... one of the main selling points on this handset is practically useless.
Again, coming from a P20 Pro I’m used to amazing photos, but that handset is 2 years old... surely Samsung has caught up? nope.
Iv given up using the 64mp mode because every photo is blurred, the auto focus simply doesn’t work... the standard photo mode (10mp) i think does auto focus, but there is such a lag between pressing the shutter button and the photo taking it makes everything blur.
Can anyone help or is this (flagship) phone simply a waste of time?
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Sounds like you have a defective handset. I have the s20 ultra and the camera ****s on the p30 pro
Unfortunately, this is the situation at the moment. Still waiting to fix camera problem with focus. I read, that the S20 Ultra user no longer complain about this problem, but still here in S20+, maybe in S20 too.
The battery is very bad. I used in 60hz, because in 120hz i can't make the day. I do SOT in 4g about 3-4 hours. Hopefully they will fix things with next update... too many people complain about Exynos S20 series....
its not a defective hand set, iv already sent one back thinking it was defective but this one is the same. Looks like everyone has the same issue. I guess its the **** exynos chip that we get fobbed off with.
I presume all of the reviewers were sent a snapdragon version and the mass produced ones used the garbage processor.
So i clocked it this morning it took 7 hours and 40 mins to go from fully charged to dead. the camera is just straight up garbage at the moment, yes you say the ultra is sorted but i think they treat that desperately to the s20 and the plus which you would expect given that the most expensive handset (£1,200 in the UK).
It's because it's an Exynos chipset phone. Those are crap for battery, as for the camera Samsung post processing isn't real good. I would imagine that future software updates will straighten this out but only time will tell.
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TLDR: Is Pixel 6 worth buying today considering it loses Android support on Oct 2024?
What title says. I was going to buy a Pixel 6 but it loses support on Oct 2024. What does this mean and is it still worth to buy? I assume there's a community that'll unofficially add updates to it.
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Currently I have an s21+ and android support is 4 years. I like the Pixel 6 specs better too :3. What do yall think? Ebay price is around $250.
Yes, last Android version will come in fall 2024 but monthly updates (mostly security) will be coming out every month approx until Oct 2025.
I think it's still worth it, considering you still have more than 2 years and P6P is a very capable camera phone with smooth OS.
All the software issues you may have heard about in the past (brightness, higher battery consumption, etc.) have been fixed. Also quarterly updates can be exciting and that's something you don't get on other phones.
Also, Pixel 7 Pro is already down 20% in some stores, so that price is also worth it.
I will probably update to the pixel 8 pro after my 6 pro. I think even the 6 pro is worth getting for $250. I have lineage os 20 on my 6 pro and those updates should last quite a while. I'd invest in it.
peele87 said:
TLDR: Is Pixel 6 worth buying today considering it loses Android support on Oct 2024?
What title says. I was going to buy a Pixel 6 but it loses support on Oct 2024. What does this mean and is it still worth to buy? I assume there's a community that'll unofficially add updates to it.
Currently I have an s21+ and android support is 4 years. I like the Pixel 6 specs better too :3. What do yall think? Ebay price is around $250.
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Also, considering custom Roms and GSI, you can run anything you want. Like my backup phone, Oneplus Nord N10 5G only got android 11, and ROM support is dead for it. It is running Crdoid 2/20/2023 android 13 GSI ROM with 0 issues
Custom ROMs and GSI (Generic System Image) provide an opportunity for users to install and run a different version of the Android operating system on their devices. They are particularly useful for devices that no longer receive official software updates or have limited support from the manufacturer.
In the case mentioned, the Oneplus Nord N10 5G only had official support up to Android 11 and no longer received updates. However, the user was able to install a custom ROM called Crdoid 2/20/2023 based on Android 13 GSI, which allowed them to run the latest version of Android on their device without issues.
Custom ROMs and GSI may require some technical knowledge and effort to install, but they offer the flexibility to customize and modify the device's software to suit individual preferences. They also provide an opportunity to extend the lifespan of older devices by enabling them to run newer software.
However, it is essential to note that installing custom ROMs or GSI may void the device's warranty and can also pose some security risks if not done correctly. It is always advisable to research and follow the installation instructions carefully, and only install ROMs from trusted sources.
skoda9635 said:
Yes, last Android version will come in fall 2024 but monthly updates (mostly security) will be coming out every month approx until Oct 2025.
I think it's still worth it, considering you still have more than 2 years and P6P is a very capable camera phone with smooth OS.
All the software issues you may have heard about in the past (brightness, higher battery consumption, etc.) have been fixed. Also quarterly updates can be exciting and that's something you don't get on other phones.
Also, Pixel 7 Pro is already down 20% in some stores, so that price is also worth it.
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I have tried the Pixel 6 Pro for 5 days. This is my review:
Camera (3/5):
Shooting photos and videos with this phone main camera is amazing, even in low light. It would always impress me, the stabilization is also good. The downside is the ultra wide camera. Shooting videos in low light with the ultra wide camera results in a washed out video. The quality is so bad that it is embarrassing to call this a "Pro" version. My 3 years old OP8 (OnePlus 8) shoots a way better ultra wide video in low light, and the camera is the OP's weakest point... The front camera photos are underwhelming. The telephoto is great, however, I only got to test it in good natural lighting.
Battery (1/5):
This is a 5000 mAh battery device, it should last you the whole day without any trouble. Left home with 72% charge on my OP8 and 78% on the Pixel. I used Google Maps on my OP8 for 1h34m, 30 minutes of it is probably searching for places, the rest was for navigating around the cities. On the other hand, I used the Pixel for taking a few photos and 2 short videos, not more than 5 minutes of usage. Used it for chatting for around 45 minutes. This was an 8 hours trip. The OP8 went down from 72 to 39, the pixel went down frok 78 to 32. 33% with 1h34m Maps vs 46% with 45 min of chatting and a few shots and 2 videos. I tried Anker's 30W charger, and it charged around 13% in 10 minutes – definitely not 30W, my OP8 does 20% in 9 minutes with 30W warp charging. The phone's battery did well on Wi-Fi though, so the problem might be with it cellular receiver.
Software (2/5):
Google's phones are known for their "software". I am not impressed by it, not even a little bit. The camera app would crash so frequently that it got on my nerves. I bought this phone to take photos, and it has built its image on simply doing that, but they can't program an app that functions properly. Google assistant does not work when the phone is locked. I enabled the option in the settings for the assistant to give personal data when locked, but it didn't work. The routines in the Google Assistant didn't work either. The rest of the commands worked fine.
Performance (3/5):
The phone is fast, I didn't challenge it much except with compressing some videos. It is fast, and weirdly enough, it compresses videos to smaller sizes than my OP8. It does heat up a little while compressing but that seemed normal to me. However, I noticed that it heats up with normal use (chatting a little bit, YouTube, browsing the internet). It seemed abnormal to me.
Build (4/5):
The phone looks amazing to me (highly subjective) and feels premium. The display seems hollow when I tap on it with my finger nails, comparing it to a Samsung A31, Note 5 and the OP8. I bought the white color – Google (and pretty much all companies) feels like they need to call it some weird name cloudy starlight or whatever – and it looked quite good. I hated the shiny aluminum frame, it looked like the shiny plastic frames you find on the A series from Samsung. The speakers are not good at all, but I am used to the OP8, which has one of the best speakers out there. It sounds like when you turn on the "surrounding" setting for your headphones.
Fingerprint reader (3/5):
It is fast enough when it actually tries to read your fingerprint. What does that mean? There were many cases where I lift the phone, it lights up and shows the fingerprint reader, I place my finger there and nothing happens. I lift my finger and retry, and it reads it perfectly, never missing. I guess the phone would wait for the animation to finish playing before attempting to read my fingerprint. Comparing it to the OP8, it is much slower.
MapzOr said:
I have tried the Pixel 6 Pro for 5 days. This is my review:
Camera (3/5):
Shooting photos and videos with this phone main camera is amazing, even in low light. It would always impress me, the stabilization is also good. The downside is the ultra wide camera. Shooting videos in low light with the ultra wide camera results in a washed out video. The quality is so bad that it is embarrassing to call this a "Pro" version. My 3 years old OP8 (OnePlus 8) shoots a way better ultra wide video in low light, and the camera is the OP's weakest point... The front camera photos are underwhelming. The telephoto is great, however, I only got to test it in good natural lighting.
Battery (1/5):
This is a 5000 mAh battery device, it should last you the whole day without any trouble. Left home with 72% charge on my OP8 and 78% on the Pixel. I used Google Maps on my OP8 for 1h34m, 30 minutes of it is probably searching for places, the rest was for navigating around the cities. On the other hand, I used the Pixel for taking a few photos and 2 short videos, not more than 5 minutes of usage. Used it for chatting for around 45 minutes. This was an 8 hours trip. The OP8 went down from 72 to 39, the pixel went down frok 78 to 32. 33% with 1h34m Maps vs 46% with 45 min of chatting and a few shots and 2 videos. I tried Anker's 30W charger, and it charged around 13% in 10 minutes – definitely not 30W, my OP8 does 20% in 9 minutes with 30W warp charging. The phone's battery did well on Wi-Fi though, so the problem might be with it cellular receiver.
Software (2/5):
Google's phones are known for their "software". I am not impressed by it, not even a little bit. The camera app would crash so frequently that it got on my nerves. I bought this phone to take photos, and it has built its image on simply doing that, but they can't program an app that functions properly. Google assistant does not work when the phone is locked. I enabled the option in the settings for the assistant to give personal data when locked, but it didn't work. The routines in the Google Assistant didn't work either. The rest of the commands worked fine.
Performance (3/5):
The phone is fast, I didn't challenge it much except with compressing some videos. It is fast, and weirdly enough, it compresses videos to smaller sizes than my OP8. It does heat up a little while compressing but that seemed normal to me. However, I noticed that it heats up with normal use (chatting a little bit, YouTube, browsing the internet). It seemed abnormal to me.
Build (4/5):
The phone looks amazing to me (highly subjective) and feels premium. The display seems hollow when I tap on it with my finger nails, comparing it to a Samsung A31, Note 5 and the OP8. I bought the white color – Google (and pretty much all companies) feels like they need to call it some weird name cloudy starlight or whatever – and it looked quite good. I hated the shiny aluminum frame, it looked like the shiny plastic frames you find on the A series from Samsung. The speakers are not good at all, but I am used to the OP8, which has one of the best speakers out there. It sounds like when you turn on the "surrounding" setting for your headphones.
Fingerprint reader (3/5):
It is fast enough when it actually tries to read your fingerprint. What does that mean? There were many cases where I lift the phone, it lights up and shows the fingerprint reader, I place my finger there and nothing happens. I lift my finger and retry, and it reads it perfectly, never missing. I guess the phone would wait for the animation to finish playing before attempting to read my fingerprint. Comparing it to the OP8, it is much slower.
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Yeah, you are pretty much correct with everything, except those software quirks are not occuring in my unit.
I am not really a heavy user of ultrawide so I don't mind. I am kinda biased towards pure Android (I hated it though before A12) and having reviewed many phones in the past professionally, I just got tired of all the custom ROMs (tried every manufacturer except Vivo and oppo...back then they were not available in my country).
Yeah, you reminded me of those modem quirks - I mean the signal strength is great (better than gf's iPhone 12), but the battery consumption is terrible. I forgot about them after year and half of usage.
Charging is slow - about 23 W or so. It takes hour and half to fully charge.
Yeah, the phone is buttery smooth and yeah it tends to run hotter than average (I don't mind it, got used to it and case lowers the heat emission to my hands). The problem is Tensor (ehm, ehm Exynos). It's also weaker in comparison to Snapdragons.
Fingerprint reader is one of the slowest, that's true. Still waiting for Face unlocking, but that's never gonna happen I guess.
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Yeah, you are pretty much correct with everything, except those software quirks are not occuring in my unit.
I am not really a heavy user of ultrawide so I don't mind. I am kinda biased towards pure Android (I hated it though before A12) and having reviewed many phones in the past professionally, I just got tired of all the custom ROMs (tried every manufacturer except Vivo and oppo...back then they were not available in my country).
Yeah, you reminded me of those modem quirks - I mean the signal strength is great (better than gf's iPhone 12), but the battery consumption is terrible. I forgot about them after year and half of usage.
Charging is slow - about 23 W or so. It takes hour and half to fully charge.
Yeah, the phone is buttery smooth and yeah it tends to run hotter than average (I don't mind it, got used to it and case lowers the heat emission to my hands). The problem is Tensor (ehm, ehm Exynos). It's also weaker in comparison to Snapdragons.
Fingerprint reader is one of the slowest, that's true. Still waiting for Face unlocking, but that's never gonna happen I guess.
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I have seen several reviews and almost no one mentioned the issues I faced, especially the battery drain on LTE and ultra wide camera.