I'm running the Xiaomi.eu rom on my Poco F5, and have noticed that the display is consuming quite a large chunk of my battery life on each charge. Please see the screenshot below. It corresponds to roughly 2.4 mAh per minute of screen on time.
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I just wanted to ask if this is to be expected or is out of the normal. This is quite new for me since I never saw such large battery consumption from the display on my last phone, which was a Xiaomi Mi 5s.
For your information, I'm using dark mode, static wallpaper, 60 Hz refresh rate, auto brightness enabled, and screen set to sleep after 30 s of inactivity.
Displays typically can use a lot of battery especially with high brightness levels.
Switch brightness control to manual and use at 20-40% brightness. Avoid using in direct sunlight as it's not good for it anyway.
Play with the refresh rate options.
Since it's a AMOLED display every pixel that's black or a darker color means less current used.
Use dark mode, and use minimalist icons.
@blackhawk - Thanks for your suggestions! For what it's worth, I fixed the brightness at about 30% for an entire day, and the screen battery consumption hasn't really changed much. It's still hovering around 2.4 mAh per minute of screen on time. The screen refresh rate is set to 60 Hz; the lowest it can be set at.
ragnaroknroll said:
@blackhawk - Thanks for your suggestions! For what it's worth, I fixed the brightness at about 30% for an entire day, and the screen battery consumption hasn't really changed much. It's still hovering around 2.4 mAh per minute of screen on time. The screen refresh rate is set to 60 Hz; the lowest it can be set at.
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My display on my N10+ is set around 30% and it's consuming 28% of the total battery consumption. It's hard for me to calculate it's actual mAh usage unless I charge to 100% which I almost never do.
Regardless other than changing the brightness manually and in your case playing with the refresh rate settings there's not much else you can do other than optimizing the display content.
This is my homepage setup.
Thanks for sending over these screenshots! Your 28% screen battery consumption is almost exactly the same as mine, which likely indicates nothing untoward is going on in my phone. That comes as quite a relief.
PS: Am loving the minimalism of your home screen.
ragnaroknroll said:
Thanks for sending over these screenshots! Your 28% screen battery consumption is almost exactly the same as mine, which likely indicates nothing untoward is going on in my phone. That comes as quite a relief.
PS: Am loving the minimalism of your home screen.
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You're welcome.
For a variable refresh rate display that's as much as you could hope for. For what it's doing that's not a bad number at all.
That's a stock N10+ and most of those mods are Samsung including the icon pack with the exception of Digi Clock and Energy Ring. Too bad Samsung is so screwed up now... so I keep running these.
I don't have the screen on time on my Poco F5, guess on Xiaomi.eu they brought it back..
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You're welcome.
For a variable refresh rate display that's as much as you could hope for. For what it's doing that's not a bad number at all.
That's a stock N10+ and most of those mods are Samsung including the icon pack with the exception of Digi Clock and Energy Ring. Too bad Samsung is so screwed up now... so I keep running these.
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Don't know too much about Samsung phones. Why do you say they are screwed up?
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Don't know too much about Samsung phones. Why do you say they are screwed up?
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No expandable storage now in their flagships. The S23U is thicker, 30 gm heavier than the N10+ and the gets worst SOT... it's a long list.
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I'M using Oxygen 0.2.2 Beta Rom. Yesterday I recalibrate my battery, closed unnecessary programs, turn off wifi, 3g, gps and bluetooth. Morning I checked battery level and shocked battery leves was about %75. I checked if there any memory leaked program but I couldn't find something like that.
Display used battery percantage dramatically high?
What is the problem? Screen was turned off naturally.
'My Battery Kills Me' - sounds like the title of a cheap horror film - LOL
How long is 'overnight'? 8, 10 hours?
25% in that time sounds quite reasonable to me.
@cr1960 25% over 8 hr with wifi and 3g off is not normal and if you experience this i would check what is causing your drain.
@yapay Install current widget, place it on one of the home screens and set it up to wright to the log every 5 min. Then turn your phone in to flight mode overnight and the next day check the log, if you have more than 1 mA usage regularly during the night there is something using to much power. Install a monitoring app from the market and let it run during the night to find out what.
If it's mostly around 1 mA than your problem probably is gone after another charge.
Screen is very high for only 1.5h ish. Looks looks like you have high brightness settings and a lot of white/blue images being displayed.
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cr1960 said:
'My Battery Kills Me' - sounds like the title of a cheap horror film - LOL
How long is 'overnight'? 8, 10 hours?
25% in that time sounds quite reasonable to me.
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overnight is about 7hr13m
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@cr1960 25% over 8 hr with wifi and 3g off is not normal and if you experience this i would check what is causing your drain.
@yapay Install current widget, place it on one of the home screens and set it up to wright to the log every 5 min. Then turn your phone in to flight mode overnight and the next day check the log, if you have more than 1 mA usage regularly during the night there is something using to much power. Install a monitoring app from the market and let it run during the night to find out what.
If it's mostly around 1 mA than your problem probably is gone after another charge.
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I installed current widget. I will try this this night. Thank you very much for your suggestions.
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Screen is very high for only 1.5h ish. Looks looks like you have high brightness settings and a lot of white/blue images being displayed.
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There is a misunderstood. I checked battery status after woke up and that was 60% display usage. After that I used phone during breakfast and later my battery was 18%.
Something is wrong...
I got massive battery drain done by display, no matter what rom using. Brightness set to minimum, no animations at all. And its really killing my nervs. Most biggest battery drain (drop-down) is from 100% - 85%, within an hour! (SLCD model)
EDIT: flashed other radio few days ago, recalibrate battery, nothing helps..
EDIT2: CPU is downclocked to 768 mhz max.
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Like on every electronic device (with screens) the display is the most power-hungry component.
So the readings are OK - I have an AMOLED display and mine is always around 65-75%.
Battery life is excellent.
And BTW, it is not a huge battery drain, but only shows what ate most of your juice - and of course the display eats it most of the time.
I saw battery stats readings with only 15-20% battery usage... so i though this may be something wrong.
Yes, those were on Froyo ROMs, but were not accurate - in all 2.3 based ROMs (even official) the stats for the display are bigger.
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I saw battery stats readings with only 15-20% battery usage... so i though this may be something wrong.
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Or were the results of people barely using their phones sharing misinformation. Whomever has anything else on top of their list other than display, is barely using his device. Eod
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Or were the results of people barely using their phones sharing misinformation. Whomever has anything else on top of their list other than display, is barely using his device. Eod
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So true.
TouchPaled from Oxygen with Transparent XDA App
Gusta_HR said:
I got massive battery drain done by display, no matter what rom using. Brightness set to minimum, no animations at all. And its really killing my nervs. Most biggest battery drain (drop-down) is from 100% - 85%, within an hour! (SLCD model)
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Do you think that display does not consume any power? Rethink!
If you keep the screen ON continuously then it consumes the battery a lot. Does not matter if it is AMOLED or SLCD. Keep the brightness low and timeouts short to get better battery life.
Screen consumes the most of power on a phone. In addition to mobile/WiFi Internet connection (during heavy traffic) and video encoding (camera), decoding (playing videos).
Watching films on a phone in a bright environment over a mobile connection would be a killer if you want to try
Phone calls drain the battery much less than screen. Same about listening musing while screen is switched off.
Hi Everyone,
The F62/M62 is a battery champ for sure, but a lot of reviews indicate that the efficiency is not as great as the M51 with the 730G. Please post your screen on time so that everyone could benefit from it.
PS: I saw in the M51 thread that people were getting 15+ hours of screen on time by disabling a lot of useless apps using Samsung Package disabler pro. Has anyone tried something similar on F62?
Cheers!
Following. I get 17hrs+ on my M51 with Greenify and certain apps disabled. Interested to see how F62 performs in comparison.
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I am getting 10hr of screen on time on average on Samsung f62.
Cons :
Other then that I face random heating near camera
GPU is not that powerfull, Jitters while playing in full graphics : cod, pubg, asphalt 9.
It took 2 hrs to charge the phone.
No system app lock.
Pros :
Display is awesome.
Camera is superb in daylight images.
Full Knox support
Waiting for custom ROMs.
Hi everyone,
Just got a new F62 but I don't find this to be a battery champ. I hardly get any screen on time and the usual brightness is just good enough to see the screen in the dark. Attached is my battery usage. (working from home don't need high brightness). Not entirely sure if this is an issue with my device or if I'm missing something that I should be doing (removing useless apps and installing greenify)
Seems like a lot of people don't know how to measure SOT.
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Seems like a lot of people don't know how to measure SOT.
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What would be a better way to measure it in that case? I'm sort of a noob in this
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What would be a better way to measure it in that case? I'm sort of a noob in this
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Download and setup GSAM , then measure option since last unplugged.
Here’s an example.
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Here’s an example.
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Got you here's my screenshot
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Got you here's my screenshot View attachment 5305501View attachment 5305505
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You know although it may seem alot by the total time it was unplugged, I didn't use it much in the last 2 days as you see, just 5.5 hrs in 48 isn't much
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You know although it may seem alot by the total time it was unplugged, I didn't use it much in the last 2 days as you see, just 5.5 hrs in 48 isn't much
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Do a test from "since last unplugged" then report back.
kartikey.chaudhary said:
I am getting 10hr of screen on time on average on Samsung f62.
Cons :
Other then that I face random heating near camera
GPU is not that powerfull, Jitters while playing in full graphics : cod, pubg, asphalt 9.
It took 2 hrs to charge the phone.
No system app lock.
Pros :
Display is awesome.
Camera is superb in daylight images.
Full Knox support
Waiting for custom ROMs.
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Exactly.... i have samsung f62 device. The battery backup is just fab. When it comes to gpu at starting while playing a high end game like asphalt or cod the performance was about 60 fps. Gradually devices gets to heat up and the cpu tends to be slower like it literally drops to 30 in order to reduce heat and yhats a bad thing in this software as of mi and oppo phones the software won't reduce cpu speed even when device gets hot but thats not safe anyway as it may explode. So what's the thing? Nothing just wait for the update of play those high end games in a cool place where cpu gets cooler even when gpu is hot
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Here’s an example.
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Hey is this F62? How are you doing this? I just got my phone, the latest software. My delta on GSAM is 8.4%/h please help.
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Do a test from "since last unplugged" then report back.
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Hey Chief, apologies was caught up with some work stuff! I'm good with the battery now thanks for helping
abishek1789 said:
Hey Chief, apologies was caught up with some work stuff! I'm good with the battery now thanks for helping
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Lol. I don’t even own this phone anymore. Gone back to using the weak note 20 ultra battery.
So far I've managed 10hr 14min with 26% battery still remaining.
That was 2:30hr using Google nav on max brightness. The rest was mostly watching YouTube with mid brightness. I use digital wellbeing to measure my screen time.
Note: My phone is running the latest F62 firmware and I have partially debloaded my phone with ADB
I am getting 10 Hr average SOT with a full charge, almost 10% drop overnight. Software is poorly optimized. Samsung is doing nothing about it. My phone is under the Flipkart Smart Upgrade Plan so I can't even do anything. This is not the performance of a 7000mah battery, I thought the heavyweight was a tradeoff but it's not. Feel cheated.
I can do between 13 and 16 hours of screen time, if I turn on power saving, limit CPU by 70%, reduce brightness by 10%, I get more than 15 hours easy! I also disabled some apps, which maybe helped the autonomy!
If only Power Saving Mode let you choose whether to disable or enable auto-sync. Is there any way to somehow enable Power Saving Mode (to limit CPU to 70%) without disabling sync? I can't miss notifications but want to save some battery.
Running in anything lower than the optimized power setting really screws the N10+ up. More of an emergency measure than a normal operating state.
With a good battery you should be getting 10+ hours SOT if optimized... and days of standby time.
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Running in anything lower than the optimized power setting really screws the N10+ up. More of an emergency measure than a normal operating state.
With a good battery you should be getting 10+ hours SOT if optimized... and days of standby time.
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I get 5-6 hours MAX of SOT and 6 is pushing it. AccuBattery has my health at like 93% so the battery isn't bad by any means. I regularly let the phone put unused apps to sleep and I never game.
I really just want to find ways to squeeze the most life out of battery without crippling my ability to get notifications as they arrive.
Something not right. Even with a degraded battery needing replacement I get a lot more than that.
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3440 mAh is 80% of the battery's original capacity and the end of its useful service life.
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Something not right. Even with a degraded battery needing replacement I get a lot more than that.
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3440 mAh is 80% of the battery's original capacity and the end of its useful service life.
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AccuBattery's estimate for mine seems a bit worse than yours, but 10 hours of SOT isn't something I've ever been able to get. My estimated capacity is 3,908 (94%) of 4,170 mAh.
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AccuBattery's estimate for mine seems a bit worse than yours, but 10 hours of SOT isn't something I've ever been able to get. My estimated capacity is 3,908 (94%) of 4,170 mAh.
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That's not bad. It needs to be optimized more if you want to increase the SOT.
Try temporarily disabling Google play Services when not needed. It's needed for Gmail, Google backup Transport and Playstore but not much more. I always have Playstore disabled as it's a troublemaker. Any cloud apps running in the background are also skewing the battery life.
I use manual brightness control; excessive brightness wastes battery and pixels. I use dark mode and themes to conserve display, battery and eyes. Also use Package Disabler to disable about 70 apks I don't use.
With temperatures climbing over 100°F ambient, keeping your N10+ cool is important.
One high cell voltage/temperature event can cause Li plating and permanently degrade it.
If it auto shutdowns on you, you left it get way too hot. You're risking destroying the device. High temperature auto shutdown doesn't always kick in fast enough to save the device. Control the heat...
Optimize it to reduce power usage.
Use manual brightness control and keep brightness below 50%, avoid using in direct sunlight.
Use a damp microfiber cloth to cool it especially during charging if ambient temperature is 95F or higher.
Shutdown it down if battery temp reaches 105F or higher during use, or 102F when charging. Keep charges below 80% to help protect the battery.
Streaming vids, some games should be avoided without additional cooling or strict time limits. If set up right activities like browsing can be done at 100F for 20 minutes or indefinitely. If your setup is getting good SOT you're in good shape, if it's not you got problems. Even with a roughly 3200 mAh derated battery I'm getting 8hrs SOT. With a fresh one it stretches to 11-13 hours. The more current you draw the hotter it runs; optimizing increases battery lifespan, usability and gives you more bang for charge.
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With temperatures climbing over 100°F ambient, keeping your N10+ cool is important.
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Spoiler: Or, You could just.....
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Spoiler: Or, You could just.....
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Indoors for me is about 5-10F cooler than ambient temperature, no AC here
Glad I got a cool running N10+
Predicted temperatures will hit 108F here next week. Gonna be a nice warm summer... but it's a dry heat
No really it is
A graphic example...
1 hr streaming vids, 494 mAh, 14% battery usage.
Ambient temperature 97F
After 1 hr 104 F battery temperature.
After a quick 5 minute damp microfiber cool down and 20 minutes of browsing (low power demand) my battery temperature is hovering around 101F. About 3-4°F above ambient.
Average power consumption is roughly 180 mAh.
At this power level it can operate continuously.
Battery temperature is directly linked to the ambient temperature and total power consumption. Reducing battery and device operating temperature means reducing total power consumption.
If you're device is using more than 500 mAh and ambient temperature is above 95F it will be difficult to use for extended times.
If above 100F and especially if junk is running with the display off (like backup transport) it will be nearly unusable even for brief periods.
It may continue to overheat even with the display off.
Once it reaches 105F or higher, power it off to protect the mobo and battery. Using in direct sunlight can cause a severe overheating event to rapidly evolve in these conditions.
An optimized N10+ is usable nearly continuously up to 100F ambient temperature unless streaming vids or for some games. At 102 and above caution must be used and cooling. Most of the latter Samsung flagships will have trouble doing this because of their higher average power consumption.
If your N10+ isn't optimized it really should be. It makes it faster, more stable, more usable and reduces battery wear.