Are Vanced and similar apps exceptions to the rule on Warez? - About xda-developers.com

Just saw a post that was closed for violating Rule 6 on XDA:
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In order to better understand and comply with rules of this forum, I would like to know in the larger interest of the community, how is the app referenced in the post linked above different from Vanced and all of its variations, which are probably one of the most downloaded apps in this forum?
1. Can mods/ staff make exceptions at their discretion?
2. Can subjectivity override written rules?
Thank you.
Please note that I'm personally against any form of tampering with original software that deprives the creator of their rightful income.
1. I always buy the Pro version (or in-app purchase) of apps that I like and use regularly.
2. I have two YouTube subscriptions, and yet I used Vanced/ Revanced because of the features they bring in (such as swipe gestures).

@TheMystic The XDA forum staff follows the internal policies of the private website - if required after an internal discussion. I'd be grateful for your understanding that the XDA staff doesn't make internal policies publicly available. The knowledge about the publicly posted XDA Forum Rules is sufficient to be able to comply with them as 99% of the XDA members daily prove.
If you're interested to learn more about internal policies and procedure, I suggest to apply as a forum moderator. The knowledge would be shared with you once accepted.
Generally, every member who was affected by a moderator action (like the closure of a thread) has the possibility to privately contact the respective moderator for further information like you personally did in the past.
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Oswald Boelcke said:
the XDA staff doesn't make internal policies publicly available.
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I'm sure they are not/ shouldn't be in conflict with rules laid down for the forum posts.
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If you're interested to learn more about internal policies and procedure, I suggest to apply as a forum moderator. The knowledge would be shared with you once accepted.
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I may consider it in future when I'm ready for it. Thank you.
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Generally, every member who was affected by a moderator action (like the closure of a thread) has the possibility to privately contact the respective moderator for further information like you personally did in the past.
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Sure. This post isn't about the referenced post in particular (or its closure), but more so for general understanding of why one app is considered Warez, while another isn't if it has many of the same properties.

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I'm sure they are not/ shouldn't be in conflict with rules laid down for the forum posts.
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Be assured they aren't in conflict.

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Question Is TWRP development for our device dead?

I've seen that TWRP development for our device has stopped getting updates since a couple months ago, even though there are a lot of problems yet to solve, and huge stability issues, will it ever be restarted again?
there's no pay for the developer, if you want get more supports, you can pay him, and the twrp need more test and time
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Darkaeluz said:
I've seen that TWRP development for our device has stopped getting updates since a couple months ago, even though there are a lot of problems yet to solve, and huge stability issues, will it ever be restarted again?
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yep seems like ded. best would be to use recovery like lineage with adb sideload support
m0lly. said:
yep seems like ded. best would be to use recovery like lineage with adb sideload support
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huntersun said:
Nebrassy's twrp Official soon:
https://gerrit.twrp.me/c/twrpme/+/4509
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Check your facts @m0lly.
zhyylz0201 said:
there's no pay for the developer, if you want get more supports, you can pay him, and the twrp need more test and time
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I was asking a question, ...
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My dear son, sadly this father of yours lacks the technical abilities and tools to complete such a task, as much as it pains me to say so myself.
Even though enthusiasm for knowledge I do not lack, my present condition does not allow me to embark in so fulfilling journey at the moment.
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Darkaeluz said:
I've seen that TWRP development for our device has stopped getting updates since a couple months ago, even though there are a lot of problems yet to solve, and huge stability issues, will it ever be restarted again?
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At the moment using unofficial Twrp is not the wright way to install custom roms. There are some good Twrp as Nebrassy's project, I've tried it to install a lot of roms and is very good. Waiting for Nebrassy official and stable release, I recommend you to use official LOS recovery using adb sideload.
Kalamaius said:
At the moment using unofficial Twrp is not the wright way to install custom roms. There are some good Twrp as Nebrassy's project, I've tried it to install a lot of roms and is very good. Waiting for Nebrassy official and stable release, I recommend you to use official LOS recovery using adb sideload.
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I'll just wait for an official release, trying to switch from one ROM to another and always having to format data is annoying, wish that can get fixed on a future update
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Question [CLOSED] Need Help

I'm being harassed by the government. They're using javascripting and google firebase apps on my phone. How do you extract all the code from a phone? I know I need a pc. What programs do I need and to get all the code from my system apps etc? I can figure it out. I just need someone who can point me in the right direction.
@Schatt Midschauer Thread closed as you already created a subject matter related thread some months ago:
Help with government harassment
Its a longshot, but you nevwer know. Ive been harassed through javascripting and all kinds of strange files apk' etc on my phone for the past few years by the federal government. They seem to believe I don't deserve human rights and that the...
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[CLOSED] how to change the imei?

How to change IMEI, I tried many methods, but I can't switch to diag mode
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How to change IMEI, I tried many methods, but I can't switch to diag mode
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Edit or change of IMEI is illegal in quite a few of countries. For this reason, I've closed your thread! XDA doesn't allow and doesn't accept discussions about or support for such an edit or change.
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Developers with questions, comments, complaints, or concerns about our rules (or anything!) should send a PM to our Dev Relations team (efrant or sykopompos) or to a Moderator. We are here to help!
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Commercial advertising, advertising referral links, pay-per-click links, all forms of crypto-mining and other income generating methods are forbidden. Do not use XDA-Developers as a means to make money.
(However, hosting sites that provide a small amount of income, are GPL compliant, have direct download links, and minimal ads are allowed contingent on XDA approval.)
14. Create only ONE User Account
You are allowed ONE User Account at XDA-Developers. If you create additional accounts, Moderators will disable them and your original account may also be disabled or infracted.
15. Keep threads / posts on-topic
Whilst a minor amount of off-topic posting may be overlooked, the general rule is that your posts / threads must be relevant to the Forum / thread in which you are posting.
General Forums - For news and announcements relating to your device.
Q&A Help & Troubleshooting Forums - For all question / request threads and posts. If there is no Q&A Help & Troubleshooting forum, use the General Forum of the relevant device
Accessories Forum - For posts related to accessories relevant to the device
Development Forums (ones with the word development in the title) - For Developers to post release threads e.g. ROMs and Kernels including modifications to kernels, bootloaders, ROMs, etc., as well as R&D development discussion threads designed with an end goal
Themes and Apps Forums - For the posting of Themes and / or Apps as well as announcements & discussions including modifications made to Themes and Apps.
16. Apps that collect identifying details
We don't routinely remove Apps that collect identifying numbers or other personal and device identifiers.
However, should an App, developed by you, be identified as one that maliciously performs this activity (e.g. by not disclosing it to the user), it will be removed from the site and possible sanctions applied;
If the destination of this information is known, it must be made known in the disclosure (examples of this would be you having coded your App to collect IMEI for authentication of the device using it)
If the destination of this information is unknown (as is the case for ad. engines, which collect it for marketing purposes), then please state which ad. provider you are using, in the disclaimer
In addition to the forum rules, please keep the following points in mind:
-- If you notice a post that is abusive, inappropriate or off-topic, please just report it WITHOUT adding a comment in the thread -- no need to add to the spam.
-- Only work that you created goes in the Development sections. If you did not create it, it goes in General, not Development.
-- Reference, tutorials and how-to's belong in the General Section.
-- All questions belong in the Q&A Section, not in General or Development.
-- Do not create placeholder threads (including placeholder threads for ROMs, radios, guides, updates, tweaks, etc.).
-- Do not create a "What is the Best ROM/Kernel for my phone" thread.

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