Question Camera question from other users - Vivo X80 Pro

Hello everyone!
I have the phone for over 10 months, and I as many of you can see, Vivo's main selling point is their camera.
I love the photos which comes out of the device, but after the Beta update to A13 which I did back in the beginning of December 2022, I noticed while I was out and shooting some pics and taking video footage with the device that when you switch to Video mode (no matter if it's in the Stock camera or 3rd party apps like FilmicPro), I am unable to change the lenses which I would like to shoot with? I am left only with the 1x Wide camera lens, and at the Stock app camera app, when I select 2x in the video mode, it just crops-in.
I was chit-chatting with Vevo's support a couple of times, over their live chat, sending emails, countless messages over their official Instagram page (where I was left on "seen" only).
The only "true" answer which I got from their support while I was chatting live with their support a few months back regarding this issue was that it will be put in Priority to be fixed in their future updates.
Now, since December (almost 6 months), I am left with this 1000+ euro expensive device, where I cannot use the other lenses in video mode, in the stock app and in 3rd party apps?
Like, excuse me, but as I mentioned at the beginning, they are mentioning "Professional Photography", but the other lenses are also good for shooting "Professional Videography" as far as I can say. LOL
They also suggested me to send my device to their official repair shop in the nearby countries where I live, so they can downgrade it to A12 -- Are you kidding me? I just want the ****ing update, not wiping my device. Principle.
I would like to ask you all, if you could check on your phone when you open your stock Camera app, or any 3rd app pro camera app, if you have the ability to change the lenses for shooting the video?
My build version: PD2185BF_EX_A_13.1.11.15.W30

aleksandar069 said:
Hello everyone!
I have the phone for over 10 months, and I as many of you can see, Vivo's main selling point is their camera.
I love the photos which comes out of the device, but after the Beta update to A13 which I did back in the beginning of December 2022, I noticed while I was out and shooting some pics and taking video footage with the device that when you switch to Video mode (no matter if it's in the Stock camera or 3rd party apps like FilmicPro), I am unable to change the lenses which I would like to shoot with? I am left only with the 1x Wide camera lens, and at the Stock app camera app, when I select 2x in the video mode, it just crops-in.
I was chit-chatting with Vevo's support a couple of times, over their live chat, sending emails, countless messages over their official Instagram page (where I was left on "seen" only).
The only "true" answer which I got from their support while I was chatting live with their support a few months back regarding this issue was that it will be put in Priority to be fixed in their future updates.
Now, since December (almost 6 months), I am left with this 1000+ euro expensive device, where I cannot use the other lenses in video mode, in the stock app and in 3rd party apps?
Like, excuse me, but as I mentioned at the beginning, they are mentioning "Professional Photography", but the other lenses are also good for shooting "Professional Videography" as far as I can say. LOL
They also suggested me to send my device to their official repair shop in the nearby countries where I live, so they can downgrade it to A12 -- Are you kidding me? I just want the ****ing update, not wiping my device. Principle.
I would like to ask you all, if you could check on your phone when you open your stock Camera app, or any 3rd app pro camera app, if you have the ability to change the lenses for shooting the video?
My build version: PD2185BF_EX_A_13.1.11.15.W30
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I think you should do a factory reset.
Mine same version work great.

zaeb hole said:
I think you should do a factory reset.
Mine same version work great.
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On the A13 beta?
You are able to change the lenses in 3rd party apps when shooting video?

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Camera focus problem

Hello people. I have a little camera problem.
After a stock update to 03122015 i have noticed that my camera wont autofocus when the object is closer than about one meter or closer. Macro focus is impossible
That wouldent be a problem if i didnt buy a smart watch and i need to scan a QR code on it. And now i cant. Help people!!!! :crying:
Doesn't it focus at all or only when you're coming closer? Elephone changed the camera driver *again* in the latest OS update so it might be possible that they screwed something up.
Try a third party camera app
Tried third party app and even the super lenovo camera app. When far it acts like it focuses but it doesnt and the pic qualiti is nota like in 250172015 rom. And whwn macro it really sucks. Its blurry and it doesnt focus at all.
Yes the autofocus with the latest OTA update doesn't seem to be working well. At least not on close ups.

Camera2-API fixed for 3rd-party camera apps or not?

Dear owners of an OnePlus 5T and maybe 5 too,
please grant me an answer to a really important question: Is the Camera2-API bug fixed for the OP5T or is it still valid and OnePlus didn't do anything against it?
Please do following:
Download Open Camera > Go to settings > Scroll down > Switch on Camera2-API > Cover the rear camera with your hand > Read the values at the very top of your screen:
• If ISO 799 and 1/16,7 is still here: Nothing was fixed. Please leave a reply.
• If values differ from those values (ISO 799 1/16,7) OnePlus finally fixed the Camera2 API. Please also leave a reply.
Thanks in advance.
MickyFoley said:
Dear owners of an OnePlus 5T and maybe 5 too,
please grant me an answer to a really important question: Is the Camera2-API bug fixed for the OP5T or is it still valid and OnePlus didn't do anything against it?
Please do following:
Download Open Camera > Go to settings > Scroll down > Switch on Camera2-API > Cover the rear camera with your hand > Read the values at the very top of your screen:
• If ISO 799 and 1/16,7 is still here: Nothing was fixed. Please leave a reply.
• If values differ from those values (ISO 799 1/16,7) OnePlus finally fixed the Camera2 API. Please also leave a reply.
Thanks in advance.
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Glad I could help.
ISO 9600 and 1/16,7s
so what does this mean now exactly?!
what are the advantages, what can be accomplished? the Google Cam HDR still doesn't seem to work correctly on the 5t.
@vercetti: The reason why I'm asking it: There are several good, real camera apps out, taking advantage of the Camera2 API. I still have the 3T and OnePlus didn't fix the Camera2 API implementation for us. Neither with Oreo. With the correct implementation (thanks for the confirmation @Wilux), Open Camera, Footej Camera, A Better Camera, etc. will work correctly and a Google Camera port is more likely than with a bugged implementation of the API - like for the 3 and 3T.
OnePlus 5 also shows ISO 9600 and 1/16,7s (latest stock rom)
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@vercetti: The reason why I'm asking it: There are several good, real camera apps out, taking advantage of the Camera2 API. I still have the 3T and OnePlus didn't fix the Camera2 API implementation for us. Neither with Oreo. With the correct implementation (thanks for the confirmation @Wilux), Open Camera, Footej Camera, A Better Camera, etc. will work correctly and a Google Camera port is more likely than with a bugged implementation of the API - like for the 3 and 3T.
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This means pictures will be lot better then on original camera app?
Would like to see some comparison from OP5t camera and OpenCamera. I still thinking to buy this great piece of tech, but its all about camera what I am focused about. Google phones not available in my country (officialy), Im getting sick over Samsungs (got them for 3 years now, too much!) as all what is good on Sammies is camera. Want to move from my s7e as there was no good flagship, but OP5t is perfect, if at least have same quality of pictures/videos as its on s7e, even if that means using 3rd party app.
@droidhd: This means, the device is theoretically able to do better images via the correct working Camera2 API. Mostly, images will be bad because of post-processing. And if you shoot RAW, mostly the hardware and the correct implemented API is significant for good photos. Maybe you'll see more grain. Maybe the colors aren't the same like you do with the standard camera app. But I'd say: Yes, they get better with more advanced camera apps.
My list of professional camera apps (No need for social media crap like filters, effects, etc.):
Open Camera: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.sourceforge.opencamera (Simply a great piece of software!)
Snap Camera HDR (Beta): https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.marginz.snap (Looks like abandoned. Last update 1 year ago)
Manual Camera: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=pl.vipek.camera2
A Better Camera Unlocked: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.almalence.opencam_plus (Looks abandoned, but will get updates from time to time. Unsteady, but alive)
Camera FV-5 (Beta): https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.flavionet.android.camera.pro
ProShot: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.riseupgames.proshot2
Footej Camera: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.footej.camera
Sadly, only one for video left:
FiLMiC Pro: https://play.google.com/store/apps/developer?id=FiLMiC+Inc. (Please try Evaluator first!)
Cinema FV-5: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.flavionet.android.cinema.pro (Seems abandoned. Last update 2 years ago)
The list isn't very long, I know. Feel free to extend it. But please: No filters, no effects, no social media like things. Those are around in thousands and nothing professional in it!
Micky, could you explain to me why it is common knowledge that picture quality is usually best when the stock rom with the stock cam is used compared to any photography app running on custom roms?
I've read in so many threads, posts... that people went back to the stock rom just because pic quality is higher than on custom rom.
is this history when camera2 API works correctly? meaning that images are identical when using open camera on stock vs opencam on custom rom? or would opencam (or any other photo app) still produce images of lesser quality when used on a custom rom?
People went back, because of the abstraction layer and because drivers are still closed source. I'd like to compare it a bit:
If you setup a new computer, you only have standard drivers for each and everything. You can use it, but only if you install the correct drivers, things get to start working like they should. Like your graphics card: Working, but you'll notice some kind of stuttering/tearing when scrolling in your browser on certain websites. If you install the driver for your card: All is smooth, like it should.
So we can say: Drivers in AOSP are more like standard. Not all functions, more workarounds, but working OK. And drivers directly from stock (OEM) will get all functions to work good and smooth (if they're implemented correctly).
But you can see, that it's possible to get great photos out of your device with mods for Google Camera even on AOSP-ROMs. Because this mod brings itself some "magic". So you see: Closed source vs. open source. If we'd have the full code of the drivers: Photos, produced by the standard camera app of every OEM would probably look like crap.
OnePlus once promised to get us at least the camera blobs, but they didn't. They say: "Too hard!". Lie, because they know, that their already scratched images would suffer more than now, because Devs like sultanxda would have kicked their butts out of the universe by producing better photos than the stock camera app.
Thx for the answer Micky, i like the comparison with the computer and missing drivers, you made it much clearer now!
But 2 questions still remain:
1.) Does a 3rd party photo app (like Open Camera or any other one) lead to the exact the same picture quality if installed on a stock rom as compared to being used on a custom rom? Or will a 3rd party app still be better on the stock rom than on a custom rom because of the drivers you explained before?
And 2.) does this whole camera2 API aspect change what you explained about the driver situation? Meaning, that there is no need anymore for the drivers that can only be found in a stock rom because camera2 API gets to use the whole potential of the camera hardware?
Just trying to figure out where the best image quality can be found. The whole thing is too confusing to me, sorry
@vercetti: Sorry for the late reply. Was kinda busy. To answer your questions:
1: Yes and no. Depends. But pictures will probably visualize it a bit better:
HAL1 (LEGACY):
HAL3 (CAMERA2):
A bit more complex explained: https://source.android.com/devices/camera/camera3
2: HAL and driver are bond together. Without a driver, you can't even get HAL1 to work . But yes: A correct working HAL3 implementation will get you to the point of using your full potential of your camera. Again depends on the driver too . Hard to explain, but the more advanced explanation at Google should answer your questions very well.

Visual Core switch missing

So before I updated to the February build I had the visual core switch in developer options. I think it said CAL HDR+ or something like that. After updating yesterday, I factory reset my phone, and then enabled developer options again...only this time the option to turn on the visual core is missing. Is it now just on by default with the February update?
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Yes, it's on by default...
The February update enables the visual core for 3rd party services. For example snapchat on android phones because there are so many devices and setups what snapchat does is uses the camera view finder to get the pictures and then captures what's on the screen to take the pictures or video. That's why iPhones always have better snapchat photos and videos.
Now since Google has released the visual core to 3rd parties. What snapchat can do no is actually take full advantage of the camera on our phones
clapper66 said:
The February update enables the visual core for 3rd party services. For example snapchat on android phones because there are so many devices and setups what snapchat does is uses the camera view finder to get the pictures and then captures what's on the screen to take the pictures or video. That's why iPhones always have better snapchat photos and videos.
Now since Google has released the visual core to 3rd parties. What snapchat can do no is actually take full advantage of the camera on our phones
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Yeah but I just meant there used to be a switch for it in developer options. The switch is no longer there after the February update. Just making sure it was turned on officially and there was no need for the switch any more.
v2.2v said:
Yeah but I just meant there used to be a switch for it in developer options. The switch is no longer there after the February update. Just making sure it was turned on officially and there was no need for the switch any more.
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that is exactly the case.

Filmic Pro dont really support huawei?

one of the main reason i pick mate 20x is because of the camera and screen... i love the huge screen combine with great camera.... for the last couple of days i have download Filmic Pro... i love the apps for slowmo 240fps video and stable hardware support... but i still cant find log profile that i need for me to do a simple video shot... and i have searching for Log Profile but still failed...
AFAIK that mode isn't supported at all. Neither are any features of the cinematography kit. I've read somewhere that Filmic Pro's implementation of LOG profiles is pretty shonky anyway so you're probably not missing much apart from a bit less time in post.
Literally every 3rd party camera app I've tried on this phone has some form of drawback or idiosyncrasy that makes me go back to the stock one. I'm sure Huawei's camera code is janky as ****.

HDR on Amazon Prime video app?

Hi there!
Some of you can play hdr content on Amazon prime video? The 7T is supposed to be certified but the maximum quality I can get is fullHD.
Back on November the option was there (settings-quality-streaming) which was 5.8GB/h but it disappeared three weeks ago. Now, the maximum is 1.8GB/h (fullHD).
Thanks.
Nobody with Amazon prime video? Really?
I am happy to check, but I honestly don't know how?
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Just checked it's stuck at 1.8GB/Hr ! Any way to bring it back to 5GB / Hr ?
Cowbell_Guy said:
I am happy to check, but I honestly don't know how?
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It's quite simple. Play a video with hdr option (the boys, the man in the hight castle, Jack Ryan, carnival row...).
While you are playing it (over WiFi if you can) touch the screen and under the duration bar you will see the resolution (hd, hd 1080 or hdr).
Or you can go to settings-qualitity-streaming (or download) and you should see something above 5GB/h.
swaroopce said:
Just checked it's stuck at 1.8GB/Hr ! Any way to bring it back to 5GB / Hr ?
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I think is related to Amazon. This happens since they updated the app back on November (blue icon instead of white).
I cannot find the APK corresponding to the October version.
Pantumaca said:
I think is related to Amazon. This happens since they updated the app back on November (blue icon instead of white).
I cannot find the APK corresponding to the October version.
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I just tried installing last 3 builds from Apkmirror and can confirm all 3 had same 1.8GB / Hr.
Sep build was worse as it has 460mb/hr.
Everytime I tried installing a new build, deleted all the cache and trace files of previous installation and proceeded. No luck
Update on 27th January 2020
I recently purchase the OnePlus 7T - HDR works on Netflix & YouTube. However, doesn't work on PrimeVideo app.
I had a chat with someone from the Amazon Support, here's an excerpt from that conversation (AgentName redacted) -
AgentName: Right now, Phones which has the Widevine L1 certification are able to access the videos in HD format only.
AgentName: Currently, HDR is not introduced in Prime Video app.
Me: Is that a region specific thing?
AgentName: We're adding the support for the phone one by one.
Me: Okay. Is there a list of phones that have already received the support? Something that will keep getting updated so that we can figure out which devices are now compatible
AgentName: We are working on this to adding the support for the phone one by one.
AgentName: To help you out, I've forwarded your expectations to our Prime videos Development Team so that they will look into this and may come up with HDR support for your phone in future updates.
Me: Okay. Thank you for your time AgentName. That's all I needed.
I think OnePlus should've done some work with these companies to ensure that their devices get HDR on these platforms before they mass produce and sell them. Hopefully this issue will be resolved soon. :fingers-crossed:

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