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locked bootloader

has anybody asked the dev of safestrap, or even tried it out yet? the locked bootloader is the next big problem, i assume. and as far as i get it the "fire os" is the same on "fire"-devices.
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2556677

meningitiscerebrospinalis said:
has anybody asked the dev of safestrap, or even tried it out yet? the locked bootloader is the next big problem, i assume. and as far as i get it the "fire os" is the same on "fire"-devices.
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JCASE demonstrated booting unsigned code from USB... so we dont NEED to unlock the bootloader although it would be nice.
What we really need is a custom recovery and a way to boot it.. perhaps JCASE will chime in now that the root is out..

last i saw his signature says he is away for an undetermined amount of time :crying:

wavrunrx said:
last i saw his signature says he is away for an undetermined amount of time :crying:
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lol his sig has said that for an undetermined amount of time

May be we can write custom recovery using dd an then boot it?

I would think anyone that is willing to test unknown methods either has money to burn or a hardware flasher.

Just checked safestrap, no luck.
May be we can port loki. Platform looks similar for me, but offsets is different.
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iRet said:
Just checked safestrap, no luck.
May be we can port loki. Platform looks similar for me, but offsets is different.
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Looks like a few people have been looking into this, but haven't seen much activity recently. Just chiming in to see if there have been any advances on this front? Either progress, or a determination that it's too difficult at this point?

drumst1x said:
Looks like a few people have been looking into this, but haven't seen much activity recently. Just chiming in to see if there have been any advances on this front? Either progress, or a determination that it's too difficult at this point?
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So I was thinking about 2nd-init and getting SafeStrap working. I need to keep looking and figure out the best place to start the 2nd-init.

rbox said:
So I was thinking about 2nd-init and getting SafeStrap working. I need to keep looking and figure out the best place to start the 2nd-init.
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Thanks for answering Happy to hear that people are still trying this. I'm wondering, once Android TV is released, the hardware on this device seems to be pretty powerful and it might be a great experience, if we can figure out how to get it on there.
Good luck, rbox! And thx for the xposed mods

Just be aware that the first thing that will stop working with an unlocked bootloader will be Netflix HD. I don't have Prime so can't comment on that.
You will be limited to 720x480 resolution - 1750kbps.

drumst1x said:
Thanks for answering Happy to hear that people are still trying this. I'm wondering, once Android TV is released, the hardware on this device seems to be pretty powerful and it might be a great experience, if we can figure out how to get it on there.
Good luck, rbox! And thx for the xposed mods
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I was able to find the best spot to do the 2nd init, and it seemed to be working, but unfortunately I'm having some problems getting TWRP to actually display even though I'm doing exactly the same thing I did with clockwork. Luckily it's a long weekend, so I should have some time to debug it.

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I was able to find the best spot to do the 2nd init, and it seemed to be working, but unfortunately I'm having some problems getting TWRP to actually display even though I'm doing exactly the same thing I did with clockwork. Luckily it's a long weekend, so I should have some time to debug it.
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thank you for the work u put into this device. i got it a few days back and have it decked out i hope by the end of summer this device will have a working recovery and maybe a rom or 2

CLran619 said:
thank you for the work u put into this device. i got it a few days back and have it decked out i hope by the end of summer this device will have a working recovery and maybe a rom or 2
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Summer only has a couple of weeks left... I also hope we can crack the bootloafer or at least get boot strap or something similar working, but I am not going to hold my breath. I AM very happy with how well it is working though, especially as an xbmc/kodi box! Hope we can get the mic button working in kodi.

[Q] chain fire auto root

Okay i know the answer is somewhere out there already but i looked and could not find.. has anyone tried chainfires auto root for verizon note 4.. there is a link to the verizon model and i have not seen any report on this. Please answer my stupid question lol. I know it has been talked about but simply cannot find anything on this..

IIRC it requires an unlocked bootloader. Thus, no dice.
They're is as yet no root, it'll show up in this forum when it happens. No reason to ask about xyz root method, none work.

WyoSi said:
IIRC it requires an unlocked bootloader. Thus, no dice.
They're is as yet no root, it'll show up in this forum when it happens. No reason to ask about xyz root method, none work.
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Yeah thats what i figured.. i know the boot is on lockdown but i didnt know why they would have a root method if it was still locked down... okay thank you.. i pray to the phone gods for a solution.. i used to have the g2 and that boot was locked down and i think it still is.. they had some loky patch file that walked around the boot.. is this not an option for the note.. i dont know much about this level of information lol. Im just a simple geek that has crack flashed phones into bricks and then saved them from pure persistence!

Wait had anyone actually tried it. LOL 15K bounty but it's been out there for weeks hahahaha.
That's because the is a DEV ed. Of the phone that has an unlocked bootloader that's why it's available if that wasn't the case I am pretty sure chain would have claimed the thousands of dollars just waiting there for him and if he didn't want it he would donate it.
Search before you post, think before you speak.

Note4 AT&T CF-Auto-Root
Wrong post

No dice with towelroot huh? Worked great on verizon S5

zounduser said:
No dice with towelroot huh? Worked great on verizon S5
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That exploit was closed up prenote 4 release.
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WyoSi said:
IIRC it requires an unlocked bootloader. Thus, no dice.
They're is as yet no root, it'll show up in this forum when it happens. No reason to ask about xyz root method, none work.
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this. it has been discussed over and over no root for retail and probably wont ever see it

This Is Just Bananas.. Like A Monkey Doing A football. Like a one man funeral. Like .... well you get the point.. I need root! Wish I would have investigated this a bit before I purchased it. My friend has the 3 and tons of roms for it so I didn't know. Ignorance is death

joewaz said:
This Is Just Bananas.. Like A Monkey Doing A football. Like a one man funeral. Like .... well you get the point.. I need root! Wish I would have investigated this a bit before I purchased it. My friend has the 3 and tons of roms for it so I didn't know. Ignorance is death
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Sell it and buy developer edition

Think I could get close to the new value?

what you mean? check swappa and see

How to bypass unlocked bootloader 30 second wait on the bootup screen?

Seriously, google. Is it really necessary to make us wait 30 seconds if we have an unlocked bootloader?
How do I stop this nonsense without locking the bootloader again?

sorry but you cant.....
what i dont understand is why it needs to beep in such a high pitch sound each time.....

Yea it's pretty annoying, it's a Chromebook thing. My HP Pavilion would do it too but at least you could speed it up and continue by pressing spacebar, Cheep5k8 said that we could drop it down to 2 seconds BUT you have to remove the screen and flip the dev switch in order to do so.
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bummer. the tablet boots super fast otherwise.
if only i were a jedi. i'd flip that switch by force.

Still the same answer to this question?
On older devices I know folks smarter than me figured out a way to remove it. I no longer remember those methods.

That beep makes me jump every time!

m+a+r+k said:
That beep makes me jump every time!
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Scares the **** out of our dogs. They go and hide if I forget to cover the speakers each reboot!

WTH, I swear to dog I just went around and replaced all the damned batteries in the smoke detectors in the house because of that chirp. It's been driving me nuts!
It's a sad statement that I was hearing it so often at random times, just shows how unstable it is [emoji53]

There must be some hack to avoid this by replacing bootloader or some other partition, doesn't it?

Is there still no solution to the dreaded 30 second delay and beep? It's the only thing preventing this tablet from being 100% awesome with LineageOS.

It's annoying but as I only reset about once a month when a new update comes out I can live with it.

Not tested at the moment, but I was wondering...
If it's that annonying (and I find it too) it should be possible to relock the bootloader while keeping root. Of course, it implies that when you will need to unlock it again, it will wipe your device (no problem if like me, you install each rom from scratch)

DarkAdrien said:
Not tested at the moment, but I was wondering...
If it's that annonying (and I find it too) it should be possible to relock the bootloader while keeping root. Of course, it implies that when you will need to unlock it again, it will wipe your device (no problem if like me, you install each rom from scratch)
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If I recall correctly, this bricks the device. May be wrong though, would not recommend at all regardless.

Oh sorry, forgot to give my feedback here. I tested relocking the bootloader : unfortunately it wipes your tablet. So at the moment you cannot disable the 30s wait while keeping root and/or unlocked bootloader

DarkAdrien said:
Oh sorry, forgot to give my feedback here. I tested relocking the bootloader : unfortunately it wipes your tablet. So at the moment you cannot disable the 30s wait while keeping root and/or unlocked bootloader
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What if you're not bothered about losing root? I flashed PixelExperience/Pie 9.0 by followmsi, which is great. All I wanted is pie, I'm not bothered about root. If I re-lock the bootloader, I don't mind losing root or wiping the device; I'm just worried it will brick the tablet! Anyone know what may happen?

Root?

Does anyone know how we can go about obtaining root?
One way would be to patch the boot.img with magisk but since we don't have recovery files that won't be possible for now. Is there any other method?

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Xshooter726 said:
Does anyone know how we can go about obtaining root?
One way would be to patch the boot.img with magisk but since we don't have recovery files that won't be possible for now. Is there any other method?
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No idea where to go with rooting but since all Razer phones are bootloader unlockable they seem ok with it to the point that they're letting us decide what to do with our phones.
They've made it clear that unlocking the bootloader and/or rooting/installing recovery will void warranty and will leave you entirely on your own as far as repairs go at that point.
Unless you're using Three Rescue and tell them you have no idea what happened and can't really say anything except;
"Well.... It's just.... Not working. I don't know why. It ran out of battery and since then I can't turn it on no matter what I do. Charging makes no difference."

Root plz?
Hey,
Just got confirmation mine has shipped. Anyone achieve root yet?
I saw bootloader unlock is easy... but i don't know enough to take that and achieve root from it on my own. Suggestions?

Can't wait to have root and Xposed :crying:
Come on Razer release the damn recovery files already lol

Xshooter726 said:
Can't wait to have root and Xposed :crying:
Come on Razer release the damn recovery files already lol
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Is there even a recovery on the stock phone?
The usual volume up-power button nets nada for me......

KOLIOSIS said:
Is there even a recovery on the stock phone?
The usual volume up-power button nets nada for me......
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Hmmm good question. It has a recovery just not sure what button combination will trigger it to boot.

Anyone tried using adb to reboot into bootloader/recovery?

Pyr0ball said:
Anyone tried using adb to reboot into bootloader/recovery?
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Not yet,just hit the door, I'll give it a go in a bit....
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Pyr0ball said:
Anyone tried using adb to reboot into bootloader/recovery?
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yes, they both work. you can unlock the bootloader right now we just have no way to root.

rainbowkittypaw said:
No idea where to go with rooting but since all Razer phones are bootloader unlockable they seem ok with it to the point that they're letting us decide what to do with our phones.
They've made it clear that unlocking the bootloader and/or rooting/installing recovery will void warranty and will leave you entirely on your own as far as repairs go at that point.
Unless you're using Three Rescue and tell them you have no idea what happened and can't really say anything except;
"Well.... It's just.... Not working. I don't know why. It ran out of battery and since then I can't turn it on no matter what I do. Charging makes no difference."
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Note that in the US it's technically illegal for them to deny warranty for anything software related unless they prove that the unlocking of the bootloader/rooting/etc is what caused the failure in the first place.
Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act of 1975
https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/...iphone-rooting-android-does-not-void-warranty

jackfrost7 said:
Note that in the US it's technically illegal for them to deny warranty for anything software related unless they prove that the unlocking of the bootloader/rooting/etc is what caused the failure in the first place.
Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act of 1975
https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/...iphone-rooting-android-does-not-void-warranty
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Interesting.... But I think they may be a way to relock the bootloader like on some Nexus devices. If that's the case then Razer won't be able to tell and would have to Honor the Warranty.

KOLIOSIS said:
Is there even a recovery on the stock phone?
The usual volume up-power button nets nada for me......
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Figured it out :good:
You can enter Recovery Mode by Holding volume Up while plugging in the USB.
And Download Mode same way but the Volume Down and plugging in.

Xshooter726 said:
Figured it out :good:
You can enter Recovery Mode by Holding volume Up while plugging in the USB.
And Download Mode same way but the Volume Down and plugging in.
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Whoa thanks for that! This is the first phone I've had with that button combo..

So I contacted Razer and asked when they plan on releasing Recovery images and Kernel sources and this is their response.

Xshooter726 said:
So I contacted Razer and asked when they plan on releasing Recovery images and Kernel sources and this is their response.
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Considering the language barrier & /or translation, whether literal or, in real meaningful context, is hard to glean from that answer.
Could be a canned response, or, their intentions of not planning to accommodate, or, something else (not now, but, at a later date).
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KOLIOSIS said:
Considering the language barrier & /or translation, whether literal or, in real meaningful context, is hard to glean from that answer.
Could be a canned response, or, their intentions of not planning to accommodate, or, something else (not now, but, at a later date).
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Not looking to good for development so far. I'm loving this phone a lot but without root and custom roms I really have no use for it. I sold my Note 8 because it was so locked down and I couldn't do what I wanted with the device. Now this one isn't locked down as much but it looks like Razer is lacking in releasing the required images needed for root and custom recovery (TWRP). They may or may not release it with time but it will be after the return period by then. So now I'm debating if I should return it and go with the Oneplus 5T which has amazing development.
Anyone else want to try contacting them? Maybe we can get something going if they see the user want it.

Xshooter726 said:
Not looking to good for development so far. I'm loving this phone a lot but without root and custom roms I really have no use for it. I sold my Note 8 because it was so locked down and I couldn't do what I wanted with the device. Now this one isn't locked down as much but it looks like Razer is lacking in releasing the required images needed for root and custom recovery (TWRP). They may or may not release it with time but it will be after the return period by then. So now I'm debating if I should return it and go with the Oneplus 5T which has amazing development.
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I'm willing to be patient awaiting development on this phone, but I get it,especially with the hardware, this phone screams for customization.
I wouldn't blame ya for jumping to the OP5T, or, its predecessor.
Selling my Huawei Mate 9 Porsche Design in hopes of taking advantage of the Essential Phone/360° camera bundles, development is in the early stages, but, at least it's got TWRP/root....
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KOLIOSIS said:
I'm willing to be patient awaiting development on this phone, but I get it,especially with the hardware, this phone screams for customization.
I wouldn't blame ya for jumping to the OP5T, or, its predecessor.
Selling my Huawei Mate 9 Porsche Design in hopes of taking advantage of the Essential Phone/360° camera bundles, development is in the early stages, but, at least it's got TWRP/root....
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Yes the essential phone at its current price is looking like a hell of a deal. With this phone I wouldn't mind having at least the stock rom rooted but we don't even have that. I'm willing to wait if there was at least some hope. I thought I saw some where we may even be covered with an extended holiday return window. Do you know anything about that? If that's the case ill try to run it as close as I can to the return dead line.
I opened up a poll on the Razer forums to see if most users are even interested in root.
I know a lot of user's here on xda that can't have a device without root. I'm interested to see what the response would be of non xda user regarding root.
https://insider.razerzone.com/index.php?threads/rooting-the-razer-phone.28381/

Xshooter726 said:
Yes the essential phone at its current price is looking like a hell of a deal. With this phone I wouldn't mind having at least the stock rom rooted but we don't even have that. I'm willing to wait if there was at least some hope. I thought I saw some where we may even be covered with an extended holiday return window. Do you know anything about that? If that's the case ill try to run it as close as I can to the return dead line.
I opened up a poll on the Razer forums to see if most users are even interested in root.
I know a lot of user's here on xda that can't have a device without root. I'm interested to see what the response would be of non xda user regarding root.
https://insider.razerzone.com/index.php?threads/rooting-the-razer-phone.28381/
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I just contacted the chat service (Mobile),they cannot/will not say anything one way or the other,suggesting I follow 'em on social media,SMMFH.....................
If I were you,I'd check Amazon or Microsoft Store for their return policy & return the one you ordered direct from Razer,if it's worthwhile,not a drawn-out process with Razer.
Another option would be to flip it on Swappa,you could probably at least break even or come close to it,especially if you have a case/etc.. to throw in to the deal.................

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I just contacted the chat service (Mobile),they cannot/will not say anything one way or the other,suggesting I follow 'em on social media,SMMFH.....................
If I were you,I'd check Amazon or Microsoft Store for their return policy & return the one you ordered direct from Razer,if it's worthwhile,not a drawn-out process with Razer.
Another option would be to flip it on Swappa,you could probably at least break even or come close to it,especially if you have a case/etc.. to throw in to the deal.................
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Follow them on social media!? Lmao
Your advice sounds like the best route to go with. Thanks!
I have an old nexus 6 with custom everything and runs like a champ still. So that should do me just fine until something comes up.

oem unlock???

Hey can anyone check if this would also work on a505u???
Scrolling down user confirms it works for 9.0
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...-rmm-fix-oreo-8-1-oem-unlock-fix-dez-t3877764
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Just because it says 9 means nothing. Do you even understand firmware?
SP6RK said:
Hey can anyone check if this would also work on a505u???
Scrolling down user confirms it works for 9.0
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...-rmm-fix-oreo-8-1-oem-unlock-fix-dez-t3877764
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stellar0322 said:
Just because it says 9 means nothing. Do you even understand firmware?
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Dude im asking a question im not saying it will give oem unlock.

If you're trying to find the OEM unlock there is a trick to doing it that I found that worked great for me.
https://www.xda-developers.com/fix-...y-s9-samsung-galaxy-s8-samsung-galaxy-note-8/

juniorD said:
If you're trying to find the OEM unlock there is a trick to doing it that I found that worked great for me.
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So you have the a505u?because its not possible on mine...im already past the 7 days.

SP6RK said:
So you have the a505u?because its not possible on mine...im already past the 7 days.
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That's cuz U variant is not unlockable.. problem here is u got one person who doesn't know much being given answers by someone else who also doesn't know much...

elliwigy said:
That's cuz U variant is not unlockable.. problem here is u got one person who doesn't know much being given answers by someone else who also doesn't know much...
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Would there be any other way exept for samsung rolling out an update with it fixed?

SP6RK said:
Would there be any other way exept for samsung rolling out an update with it fixed?
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No. It is not unlockable, period. Nothing is broken at all. They intentionally lock the BL and don't allow unlocking it. There's no other way or exploits to unlock it.
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SP6RK said:
So you have the a505u?because its not possible on mine...im already past the 7 days.
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Sorry I just bought this phone literally 5 days ago. I have a GN model and after researching the U models are said to be unlockable. Ahhh well...

juniorD said:
Sorry I just bought this phone literally 5 days ago. I have a GN model and after researching the U models are said to be unlockable. Ahhh well...
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It kinda sucks how im not able to unlock it...i hope there is a way later on but o well i am kinda happy with the phone...its faster than my old one i just wanted to be able to build a rom on it even of i had it all buggy...

SP6RK said:
It kinda sucks how im not able to unlock it...i hope there is a way later on but o well i am kinda happy with the phone...its faster than my old one i just wanted to be able to build a rom on it even of i had it all buggy...
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It is a great phone honestly but the fingerprint scanner really really sucks. I just went ahead and disabled it because its so bad and I have up to the January patch. Its so inconsistent its embarrassing. I'm scouring the net now to see if someone created a patch or kernel to help improve this problem.

SP6RK said:
It kinda sucks how im not able to unlock it...i hope there is a way later on but o well i am kinda happy with the phone...its faster than my old one i just wanted to be able to build a rom on it even of i had it all buggy...
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u couldve found its not unlockable before purchasing it lol.. just sayin

juniorD said:
It is a great phone honestly but the fingerprint scanner really really sucks. I just went ahead and disabled it because its so bad and I have up to the January patch. Its so inconsistent its embarrassing. I'm scouring the net now to see if someone created a patch or kernel to help improve this problem.
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8/10 screen fingerprint readers will have that problem

elliwigy said:
u couldve found its not unlockable before purchasing it lol.. just sayin
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Tell you the truth i was unsure the other versions worked on my sim card and i needed a phone so i did prime shipping on it and got it the next day i really did not care at that point if it had root since im trying to get the s20 ultra in a couple months but i really like the a50 and it makes me kinda sad there is no oem unlock to the us version
Edit: when i was reading through quickly i thought magisk wasnt supported for a while in stock rom.

SP6RK said:
Tell you the truth i was unsure the other versions worked on my sim card and i needed a phone so i did prime shipping on it and got it the next day i really did not care at that point if it had root since im trying to get the s20 ultra in a couple months but i really like the a50 and it makes me kinda sad there is no oem unlock to the us version
Edit: when i was reading through quickly i thought magisk wasnt supported for a while in stock rom.
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magisk requires an unlocked bl.. period.. installing it in daemon mode or system mode is also possible but that defeats the purpose and you need an unlocked bl to even do that

elliwigy said:
magisk requires an unlocked bl.. period.. installing it in daemon mode or system mode is also possible but that defeats the purpose and you need an unlocked bl to even do that
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Actually thinking about it i have forced magisk into a phone with a locked bootloader (figo gravity...idk lol long time ago) but on 6.0...im sure that samsung has more security on their phones so it might not let me force the img through odin since its not even signed.

SP6RK said:
Actually thinking about it i have forced magisk into a phone with a locked bootloader (figo gravity...idk lol long time ago) but on 6.0...im sure that samsung has more security on their phones so it might not let me force the img through odin since its not even signed.
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again, magisk requires an unlocked bl to use. this has always been the case. and no u cant force flash in odin.