Sadly, ARM64 ROMs do give me constant app reboots, since this device do have 2 GB RAM only, also, it doesn't matter if i put the Low RAM prop or some build.prop Tweaks.
Or if someone knows about an nice RAM script for android 11-13, i could love to know
Well, i got no response, sadly, there are not many ROMs for this device since on January 2023, all of the Nemesis Developers links are now deleted, even for other phones, also i got no answer on the "support" Telegram, so, consider this device almost completely abandoned since there are still updates from LineageOS 20, and since all of the ROMs are Arm64, Android 13 one gives apps restarting like having 512 MB of RAM
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Let me preface this by saying that this is in no way a device comparison thread.
Now that that's out of the way, I want to talk about the RAM. We have 4GB. I have noticed that if I have a web page open in the browser I can go back to it at any time without it having to reload. This is killer!. I have been wanting that for so long. My Nexus 6 can do that up to a point, but even it will start refreshing after a while. I have yet to see the Zenfone 2 do it once. The frustrating thing is, I have a GS6 also and it will do that after only a few apps are opened. It's one of the things I really hate about that phone and which makes it irritating to use.
Here's the thing: Both the GS6 and Asus are running earlier versions of Lollipop, before the memory issues were supposedly fixed. I'm pretty sure that Samsung just has some super aggressive memory management going on. But why doesn't the Zenfone 2 suffer from the memory leak? Why is it not having the same RAM issues that the Nexus 6 had on 5.0? I suppose Zen UI could have something to do with it, but none of the other OEMs have been able to fix the RAM issues with their overlays. Is it just the sheer amount of RAM that makes it less noticeable?
Sound off. Either way, I'm thrilled with the performance of this phone.
My zenfone 2 is getting delivered today. I'm VERY much looking forward to Android 5.1 on it. When my Nexus 5 went from 5 to 5.1, it was sooo much better. I'm expecting the zenfone 2, s6, etc, to see similar improvements.
nathan118 said:
My zenone 2 is getting delivered today. I'm VERY much looking forward to Android 5.1 on it. When my Nexus 5 went from 5 to 5.1, it was sooo much better. I'm expecting the zenfone 2, s6, etc, to see similar improvements.
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5.1 Made my Nexus 6 a totally different phone. But the Zenfone 2 is really solid right now. While I'm sure that 5.1 will only make it better (especially the "all cores at once" change), I have zero complaints about performance with this phone.
Combination of Clean Boost thing, as well as a massive amount of RAM.
When I'm idle, I hang around 1.3GB RAM used. I can leave a ton of stuff open in the background for immediate opening and I still only hit around 2.5GB RAM usage. I imagine playing huge games will eat up the rest. The management along with the amount is what makes it so smooth and easy to multitask.
Zenfone 2 will soon get a 5.1 upgrade with a 64 bit os which will make the device a god Eagerly waiting for the 5.1 upgrade. The only thing i wish for is to see some Aosp roms like cm, pa on this device.
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Zenfone 2 will soon get a 5.1 upgrade with a 64 bit os which will make the device a god Eagerly waiting for the 5.1 upgrade. The only thing i wish for is to see some Aosp roms like cm, pa on this device.
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Where has ASUS said 5.1 upgrade will bring 64bit OS?
Mrinal Roy said:
Zenfone 2 will soon get a 5.1 upgrade with a 64 bit os which will make the device a god Eagerly waiting for the 5.1 upgrade. The only thing i wish for is to see some Aosp roms like cm, pa on this device.
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Razr-i has a CM (port) rom out.. Only thing I've done with it so far is pull a few apks (ex: calculator) and binaries (ex: htop) off of it
I can totally notice the ram leak, my ZF2 ram idles around about 2+gb out of the box. Because it has so much ram you will not notice it.. my nexus 6 with the ram leak patch idles at 1.3gb.. I can only imagine the beast of a fine this will really be.. But I cannot complain, my ZF2 was free thanks the North America launch event asus gave away the 64gb model.
It is possible they included a patch for the memory leak prior to release of their phone. Either that or it some how doesn't apply to the intel atom processor and how it may handle ram.
Strange... I'm on the 2 GB version, and I have constant problems with apps getting closed, presumably due to swapping. Sometimes it gets so bad that even opening Chrome will close out every other app. Normally, I can't seem to keep more than a couple apps open before they start getting swapped out - maybe Hangouts and my podcast app. Is anyone else seeing similar behavior, and/or have a workaround? The "boost" function doesn't seem to do much to help.
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Strange... I'm on the 2 GB version, and I have constant problems with apps getting closed, presumably due to swapping. Sometimes it gets so bad that even opening Chrome will close out every other app. Normally, I can't seem to keep more than a couple apps open before they start getting swapped out - maybe Hangouts and my podcast app. Is anyone else seeing similar behavior, and/or have a workaround? The "boost" function doesn't seem to do much to help.
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Are you rooted? I got rid of all the bloatware, installed greenify, disabled a bunch of non essential apps from starting using auto-start, and I'm not having any issues at all. I have the 2 GB version as well.
Unlocked, Insecure boot, rooted, all the junk uninstalled.
1.0GB RAM usage after the phone being on for ~16 hours.
151MB Cached
2.6GB Free
See attachment
With messaging, books, and email open...stock. There is still a memory leak issue, the only thing is with the 4 gig version you have so much available most cannot tell a difference.
Kernel has KSM support, and init scripts reference a missing init.ksm.rc.
Per https://source.android.com/devices/tech/ram/low-ram.html, the normal settings are:
write /sys/kernel/mm/ksm/pages_to_scan 100
write /sys/kernel/mm/ksm/sleep_millisecs 500
write /sys/kernel/mm/ksm/run 1
Personally, I don't have any complaints about battery life on the zf2, so ymmv with drain from ksm.
Normally saves around 100-150MB, a few times upwards of 300MB. But regardless, this bandaid will not help if you're still barely afloat even after discounting cache.
Can either unpack boot.img and modify the ramdisk (now that bootloader can be unlocked) or use an app / init.d script.
Kernel Adiutor https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.grarak.kerneladiutor works well
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Strange... I'm on the 2 GB version, and I have constant problems with apps getting closed, presumably due to swapping. Sometimes it gets so bad that even opening Chrome will close out every other app. Normally, I can't seem to keep more than a couple apps open before they start getting swapped out - maybe Hangouts and my podcast app. Is anyone else seeing similar behavior, and/or have a workaround? The "boost" function doesn't seem to do much to help.
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I face the same problem.... Asus needs to fix it soon.....
After rooting and removing crapware, I see apps getting closed down after opening 2-3 other apps. Really annoying, and not something I'm accustomed to coming from the OnePlus One, Nexus 5, or even the Nexus 4.
Hey there!
I have a ZE551ML (2.3GHz/64GB/4GB). Like most of the Zenfone 2 users, I have had two major issues on this phone. The battery drainage and the RAM leakage, both caused by the dreaded Android OS.
Earlier we blamed it on the 5.0 Stock Lollipop firmware, hoping it will get fixed with Marshmallow. But now on the beta MM, I continue to have the same issues (I cleaned flashed).
But thanks to Marshmallow's new Memory manager, I saw that the kernel has taken up almost 1GB of the RAM. (For comparison, the OnePlus One MM drains around 200MB). And I'm sure, whatever causes this to happen is also the culprit behind the Android OS battery drainage.
Now maybe, we could blame it on the Intel CPU, since most apps are optimized for Snapdragon devices. But then, wouldn't it affect all the Zenfone 2s with Intel CPUs? Why is it that some have excellent kernel performance?
Since I'm not a developer, I couldn't dig more into the situation, but I hope some developer will see this and help us out. It's a wonderful phone except for the Kernel hogging up the battery and the RAM.
That's all folks!
I leave stock for CyanogenMod about 1 month (right before beta tester receive MM test) and I think kernel isn't a big problem. The problem is the UI. And it bloatware. I have to disable almost every bloatware (since I didn't root)
Android 5.0 itself having memory bug that using a lot of RAM for animation, turn off transition animation in developer setting to mitigate this problem, and it can be fix with an optimize. But I don't know why ASUS don't fix it.
And another RAM hogging is ZenUI Launcher. A lot of useless function that you don't really need, and it may use up to 300mb of RAM. And it may make kernel use more RAM. Try to use a different lightweight launcher for a while (1 day or maybe few day).
When you reboot your phone, ZenUI Launcher using 30-40mb of RAM, but the more you use, the more it hogging your RAM. You can really tell it by using for a while and after running some casual apps like Facebook or Messenger, ZenUI launcher will have to reload everything, and gaming, it usually have to reload the game when I have to listen/make a phone call or reply a message.
Sometimes you receive some warning/suggestion like: "Something leaked? Protect your privacy now!", and this is the most useless and tricky function when it suggest you to install CM Security or something Security which is actually quite useless and it may/will steal something from your phone.
I'm using CyanogenMod, and it kernel source provided by ASUS. And developers make it great. There are some bugs, but acceptable and usable. When I go to CM, I could play games and use Facebook or do something elsse at the same time which I couldn't do at stock.
ASUS could make their phone better, but no, they have to sell something, and it's the next generation. The Zenfone 3. They have to make people thinking: "My phone is slow, I have to buy a new one, and yeah, I like this ZenUI, and Zenfone 3 is here, price also pretty good, I will get that Zenfone 3".
I bought a Nexus 5X yesterday and I installed PixelROM on it. I noticed even with stock ROM that the RAM is almost full, 1.5GB out of 1.8GB being used constantly, which makes it almost imposible to multitask. I can't start 3 apps at once because one of them will surely restart after I enter it for the second time.
Is there a workaround for this? I come from a Nexus 5 which didn't have such problems.
PS: Android OS seems to use 600MB constantly, being the most resource hungry process.
I consider PixelROM a stock + extra features. Try SAOSP, SlimROM or Lineage OS. Custom kernel might help, too. The last solution is app LSpeed set to multitasking.
Edit: Almost forgot PureNexus ROM, try that, too.
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I consider PixelROM a stock + extra features. Try SAOSP, SlimROM or Lineage OS. Custom kernel might help, too. The last solution is app LSpeed set to multitasking.
Edit: Almost forgot PureNexus ROM, try that, too.
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I am looking for a stock like ROM rhat can give me the features that the Pixel has but for less money
Hi, I installed RR two days ago and I would say I am where I expected, pretty fast with lots of customizations, but there is this strange yet important issue I have with RAM
It shows 1.5 GB of free ram when all apps are closed from recent, I used to see 2.2 GB of free ram on MIUI, and in the running services I am seeing almost 2 GB of RAM dedicated to system, 500 MB for apps and 1.5 GB free, is this normal?
Does LineageOS have the same thing?
And by the way this is my first ROM I installed on whyred, which Oreo ROM do you suggest for my next try?
Thanks in advance
That means nothing.
Android claims RAM for itself, but that doesnt mean its actively uses it. Its for granting RAM for whatever app needs it, and ofcourse for itself.
Basically you should not feel that in any ways, whats more it can be advantageous.
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Dr.TheMaster said:
Hi, I installed RR two days ago and I would say I am where I expected, pretty fast with lots of customizations, but there is this strange yet important issue I have with RAM
It shows 1.5 GB of free ram when all apps are closed from recent, I used to see 2.2 GB of free ram on MIUI, and in the running services I am seeing almost 2 GB of RAM dedicated to system, 500 MB for apps and 1.5 GB free, is this normal?
Does LineageOS have the same thing?
And by the way this is my first ROM I installed on whyred, which Oreo ROM do you suggest for my next try?
Thanks in advance
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Ram part was already addressed by another user
so for oreo roms, you have few options:
Lineage OS is more stock style rom with less configurations compared to RR
Then you have AOSP Extended, AOSIP both have decent customizations almost on par with RR
Then you have Havoc which is also quite decent
I personally tried most 8.1 and depending on your needs you might feel more at home with some. I personally do not like Lineage OS because of the lack of some basic customizations in my opinion.
Biozfear said:
Ram part was already addressed by another user
so for oreo roms, you have few options:
Lineage OS is more stock style rom with less configurations compared to RR
Then you have AOSP Extended, AOSIP both have decent customizations almost on par with RR
Then you have Havoc which is also quite decent
I personally tried most 8.1 and depending on your needs you might feel more at home with some. I personally do not like Lineage OS because of the lack of some basic customizations in my opinion.
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Thanks for the answer, So what do you use in your device right now?
I flashed Xiaomi.eu at the end, I felt it was the most stable
Hello,
I have a question for experienced Armi users. What is the fastest and most responsive mod to date on Armani? (January 2023)
I know it's a very old phone with 1gb of memory, but maybe you have some good experiences with well optimised mods?
What I care most about is that the touch is responsive.
I am currently using LineageOS 18.1 and unfortunately it is very slow. Opening applications and just clicking is laggy, it has a delay of about 5 to 10 seconds
Don't get mad because I don't expect miracles. I want to know your opinion and your experience of using mods on Armani with a focus on speed
I'm using LOS 14.1 official. It's very responsive but quite old.
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Hello,
I have a question for experienced Armi users. What is the fastest and most responsive mod to date on Armani? (January 2023)
I know it's a very old phone with 1gb of memory, but maybe you have some good experiences with well optimised mods?
What I care most about is that the touch is responsive.
I am currently using LineageOS 18.1 and unfortunately it is very slow. Opening applications and just clicking is laggy, it has a delay of about 5 to 10 seconds
Don't get mad because I don't expect miracles. I want to know your opinion and your experience of using mods on Armani with a focus on speed
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[ROM][UNOFFICIAL]LineageOS-14.1 for armani | Android 7.1.2 Nougat [MAY 2023]
LineageOS is based on the Android Open Source Project with extra contributions from many people within the Android community. It can be used without any need to have any Google application installed. Linked below is a package that has come from...
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ehumydkx said:
Hello,
I have a question for experienced Armi users. What is the fastest and most responsive mod to date on Armani? (January 2023)
I know it's a very old phone with 1gb of memory, but maybe you have some good experiences with well optimised mods?
What I care most about is that the touch is responsive.
I am currently using LineageOS 18.1 and unfortunately it is very slow. Opening applications and just clicking is laggy, it has a delay of about 5 to 10 seconds
Don't get mad because I don't expect miracles. I want to know your opinion and your experience of using mods on Armani with a focus on speed
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I've been trying so many roms for this device..
And Minimal OS is the most responsive , fast , and nice battery life
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...r-minimal-os-for-redmi-1s-2015-10-11.3150539/