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I returned my note 7..Now im torn between getting the "new" toy on the block the pixel xl or waiting for something from samsung in feb march...i mean pixel is getting great reviews but im hearing some great specs from samsung about the galaxy s8 (4k screen snapdragon 830 etc) enhanced vr etc...
decisions decisions
I have my old note 4 for now so im not without a device...
Pixel XL now and the new Note or whatever they'll call it next year
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I returned my note 7..Now im torn between getting the "new" toy on the block the pixel xl or waiting for something from samsung in feb march...i mean pixel is getting great reviews but im hearing some great specs from samsung about the galaxy s8 (4k screen snapdragon 830 etc) enhanced vr etc...
decisions decisions
I have my old note 4 for now so im not without a device...
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I've been a Samsung user since the Galaxy S 2 (or should I say II? ). I've lost my confidence due to the battery issue... Still they don't seem to know the actual issue, I just can't trust them. On the other hand I always hated how they skinned their phones, their launcher is terrible. And the Android updates always took months. I'm going Pixel and not looking back now. Next year probably we'll have a Pixel 2 with similar specs as the S8 or whatever they'll call it.
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Get the Pixel XL used (resale value is probably pretty low), then get the S8 when it releases.
Who has the patience to wait till Feb or March. Buy what's awesome and see when S8 releases.
I just returned my note7 and picked up a cheap $200 huawei to use whileni wait for my pixel.
This phone makes remeber why i like unbloated phones. Its way faster interface wise than my note7 was, so snappy.
I considered holding out for an s8 but no way. And unbloated pixel should be way faster than even an s8 with superior cpu/gpu in real life usage.
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Easy. Get the Pixel now, then get the S8 when it drops. Not enough money? Work more.
Anything from Samsung (if it does not catch fire) is filled with bloat I do not want.
But why wait for the S8 ?
I think you should wait for the Galaxy S9 .... got to be better than S8
Every six months a new device with the new latest things comes out, so if you wait for the S8 in March you might as well wait for the pixel 2 in September october 2017.. and so on..
I was in a similar quandry, quite fancied a 4K screen for VR and the next gen chips from Samsung and Qualcomm look like quite a bump, but yes still 5 months of and will be slowed down by Samsung's Android implementation, lack of updates and gimmicky but less functional edge screen with possiby with top and bottom edge. On top of that the difficulty of taking samsung phones on air planes etc and it was a no brainer. 128GB with photo and video cloud offloading should negate the need for an SD card, if not a simple OTG flash drive will be good enough. So I say go for it, go for the pixel like me, it will stay upto date alot longer then the S8 will and will have proper updates with real features.
Just saw the pixel xl at the verizon store
Its amazing
Getting it asap
I snatched a 128gb black xl. I have to say, I'm pretty smitten with it. It's no Note7, but I'll be damned if it's not better in a lot of ways. The fingerprint scanner, the overall UI, the phone dialer, overall speed, all much better. And, the really nice oled FLAT screen. It's just nice. When Note 8 comes out I'll find a way to trade up. In the meantime, I do love this Pixel.
I have the same situation too, I returned my Note7 and decided to wait for Galaxy S8. I will buy S8.
I would personally wait. I kind of wish I would have but then again development on the s8 will probably be worse than the pixel.
Pixel > Locked BL (S8)
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Note 4 is a good device with good development.
If you like flashing ROM's and playing with Xposed, then stick with the N4 for a while longer.
Just IMO.
There is no Xposed for Nougat at this time.
And development for Pixel is still experiencing growing pains.
Meanwhile, you can do almost whatever you want with a Note 4 provided it's got the unlocked bootloader.
My buddy just gave up his Note 5 to go back to his Note 4.
I would still have my MotoX Pure 2015 if I knew there would be so many development issues with both Nougat *and* the Pixel.
But I do love how fast the Pixel does everything.
A person who would like to get something like an S8 or whatever should also look at the V and G series phones from LG, and other heavily modified android skins. Pixel, OnePlus aren't for them.
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A person who would like to get something like an S8 or whatever should also look at the V and G series phones from LG, and other heavily modified android skins. Pixel, OnePlus aren't for them.
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Agreed. An LG V20, is probably the best bang for your buck phone out there (on Verizon anyway) and easily the most underrated phone of 2016 (well... Maybe the Moto Z?).
No thanks on the laggy Samsung phones.
Ex Note 7 user here. I have always had a much better user experience with the stock android devices (nexus, Moto x) than samsung but I tried the note 7. I loved it but it still was not fluid. I was more in love with the form factor than the operations of the device. After that I tried the OP3 and no way I will ever purchase another one plus device. Is it good for the price? yup. Does it work...nope. Random reboots while using your gps to make an appointment in downtown Boston don't really fly with me. Bought a pixel XL and I'm not looking back. Everything works as it should all the time. Battery is great and camera is too. I have not had any issues just like I had no issues with my previous Nexus devices. I will jump on the next pixel as well. I'm done with "extra features" skinned android and cheaper budget alternatives.
I'm so torn on waiting until ****ing end of april for s8 or getting the xl now. I have the note 3 rooted/rom, and I love it, so I would love to be able to root again. On the flipside, the new 835 chip supporting its own VR, 4k screen, along with improvements to camera and whatnot makes this decision very hard.
I currently have the Pixel Xl and its a nice phone but the 3T comes in at half the price and I don't mind a 1080p screen. Those using the regular oneplus 3 what are your thoughts?
well yeah. depend on your needs tho, not gonna talk about specs. average user wise, op3 is better due to support and general customization. in my country, google phone are non-existence, you can't get it fixed at shop, can't find any temper glass and ect on local webstore. generally, if you can go back to having mono speaker and somewhat buggy and unsatisfying software, go for op3. if you want the ultimate software from google, stereo speaker, less third party support, then pick pixel.
with the op3t included in the comparison however, op3t is ultimately better since it comes with nougat. as for pricing, up to your country.
disclaimer: i own op3, but played with abroad friend's pixel.
Pixel XL is definitely better as long as price is not taken into account. When it is OP3T for the win. It doesn't come with Nougat by the way, as far as I read.
The most noticeable thing I'd that the Pixel XL camera is going to be better (mainly because of SW, not HW)
You'll also see faster OS updates with the pixel but the OnePlus 3 will have more customization
Standby battery drain should be similar and screen on time should be a bit better on the OnePlus 3T since it has a 1080p screen instead of a QHD screen
OnePlus 3 is probably the device where you get the most quality for the lower price. I have mine for almost three weeks and I am quite happy with how it performs.
Also another thing that is great about OnePlus 3 is their community, it is somewhat friendly and the higher ranked members are quite helpful. Additionally they also have a big modding community on their own which is how I got to know XDA as somethings shared there come from here.
Regarding Google Pixel XL, I never had one of those in my hands (or any smartphone produced by Google) so I abstain of forming opinions about it.
The OP3 is a better device.
So what exactly is better? I went to bestbuy to check the Pixel and the build quality is a lot better than the Pixel. Custom software is added benefit as well. There is so much that you can do with the OP3 fingerprint sensor. I could not live without one! The FP placement on the Pixel isn't convenient at all. I don't see the Nougat as a benefit since the Marshmallow is good enough for me.
The Pixel has a better camera and Nougat. That's it. That's what you pay for. Determine if its worth it or not.
The OP3 is definitely better device. I love my phone!
If you want faster OS updates, a miles better camera than OP3, and pure stock android experience with dedicated google's under the hood tweaks, i would suggest to go with Pixel XL. If price is a deciding factor, go for OP 3T as it can give you theoratically same experience and fluidity + good camera and average times software updates.
Why would you even want to consider this if you already have pixel xl?
Kind of in a hard spot right now, both amazing phones but which one do you guys recommend?
Camera on the Pixel still beats the S8 & due to pure Android it feels much faster
Do you care about an unlocked boot loader, custom ROMs, root?
Pixel xl bought straight from Google you have a lot more freedom, and best part of all you can try out Google project fi. Also pure Android is the best in terms of speed, no bloatware, and you'll get the latest updated with the pixel XL. Or you can wait for the pixel 2 which is soon to be unveiled
Yeah i decided to go for the xl, i don't wanna wait for the s8 to get root and also i love flashing custom roms etc..
Mother of God. Of course the Pixel! Why would you want a lagfest phone? And this isn't because this is Pixel section, create same topic on Samsung section and my answer will be same, except there won't be any answer as I don't visit their section.
Congrats in advance by the way.
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Kind of in a hard spot right now, both amazing phones but which one do you guys recommend?
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Having used both the pixel XL and the samsung s8 plus, I would definitely recommend the pixel XL for the below reasons
1) The HDR+ is excellent in the google pixel XL. The front camera is also great for selfies
2) Stock android, haven't seen it lag till date. After a few weeks quite a bit of lag is visible in the S8 plus
3) in my view the Pixel XL is easier to hold and use on a daily basis. The Samsung S8 plus is quite scary to hold especially if you are a person who moves around a lot and travels
4) The google assistant is of some use. I didn't use the Bixby at all while it was there (no voice support)
5) The battery life is brilliant and gets me through the day
The only downside is the speaker output in the google Pixel XL but yeah I have bluetooth speakers. I miss the Always on Display but I love my Pixel XL that I got back to it and wouldn't look for a replacement
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If you do the Pixel XL isn't actually a great phone. Google made the Pixels to run stock Android. They want Pixel users to run stock Android. Independent development is almost nonexistent for the Pixels compared with the wide variety of roms, kernels and tweaks that were available for the earlier Nexus devices. The Pixel is a headache to flash on, root and develop for. There is no official version of Magisk for the Pixel and according to the dev there may never be. Custom kernels for the Pixel are missing the most basic modification that custom kernels usually provide --the ability to change the governor. The Pixel XL is an excellent phone if you want to run stock Android but anyone who claims it's a great phone for development and flashing is either lying, stupid or completely delusional.
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If you do the Pixel XL isn't actually a great phone. Google made the Pixels to run stock Android. They want Pixel users to run stock Android. Independent development is almost nonexistent for the Pixels compared with the wide variety of roms, kernels and tweaks that were available for the earlier Nexus devices. The Pixel is a headache to flash on, root and develop for. There is no official version of Magisk for the Pixel and according to the dev there may never be. Custom kernels for the Pixel are missing the most basic modification that custom kernels usually provide --the ability to change the governor. The Pixel XL is an excellent phone if you want to run stock Android but anyone who claims it's a great phone for development and flashing is either lying, stupid or completely delusional.
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But still I don't see the S8 being in a better place with knox when it comes to custom ROMs and kernels. On the contrary I would say it is worse in that section.
Funny. I just sold my galaxy s8+ for a regular pixel .... Yes 5" pixel. I really wanted an xl but finding a use 128gb google version pixel for $100 was a no brainer. Here is my little story and why i say PIXEL ALL THE WAY.
i bought this pixel has a spare since is was.such a great price. I had my galaxy s8+ since launch. amazing phone until i used the pixel for a few minutes. There i learned how laggy and stuttery the sg8 is. I couldnt even use it anymore since i already experience how smooth the pixel was. I sold my gs8+ 2 days after and kept the pixel. The gs8 is a great phone and has all this feature. But software which is my main purpose i purchase the phone doesnt cut it. I want a smooth OS experience and not the lag hell like touchwiz even with its 835 chipset. Things are much more laggy than this.
By the way. I got the pixel for $100 but in black. I was tired of black phones and took mine to ubreakifix. They charged me $250 to do an entire very blue conversion. Looks brand new out of the box white face screen and blue housing. One of the few with a very blue 128gb version.
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But still I don't see the S8 being in a better place with knox when it comes to custom ROMs and kernels. On the contrary I would say it is worse in that section.
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That might be true but I still don't think you can recommend a Pixel based on independent development and custom Roms and flashing. There is much more independent development for the One Plus phones if that is a big reason you want to own an Android phone. I've tried a number of custom Roms on the Pixel XL, more out of long standing habit than anything else. None ran better than stock and the only one I found that ran without a single issue was Dirty Unicorn. All of the other Roms I tried would either have bugs or would lag over time, which doesn't happen with stock on the Pixel. The only reason to run a custom rom on the Pixel is either that you can't live without Substratum theming or the custom rom has some feature that is vitally important to you--but it's almost guaranteed that you will be sacrificing some performance and stability on a custom rom because the Pixel was made to run stock Android and does so remarkably well. That's just an opinion of course and I'm sure people on the Pixel love their custom roms. The only thing I miss (I went back to stock) is using a dark theme. I think if Google actually allowed theming natively like the OnePlus and some Sony phones do the Pixel would be close to perfect. The only obvious problem is the Pixel speakers which are unforgivavly bad for such an expensive phone. I swear to God that I'm not exaggerating --my friend got a 20 or 30 dollar phone from the Cricket Store and it has better speakers than the Pixel does. Google never should have released this phone with such terrible speakers. Otherwise as long as you want to run stock Android the Pixel is great.
There are actually people, normal users, who purchase a phone based off on development? Yes OnePlus and all them inferior devices have much more development, but you are gonna buy that thing over a Pixel because it has more development? I mean what the heck is wrong with people? A heavily modified OnePlus will still not perform as good as a bare stock Pixel at first place!
Take the developers out of the picture obviously, they can buy a OnePlus just for development's sake, but I am saying about us normal users.
TouchWiz is realy ugly, so I recommend a Pixel XL
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There are actually people, normal users, who purchase a phone based off on development? Yes OnePlus and all them inferior devices have much more development, but you are gonna buy that thing over a Pixel because it has more development? I mean what the heck is wrong with people? A heavily modified OnePlus will still not perform as good as a bare stock Pixel at first place!
Take the developers out of the picture obviously, they can buy a OnePlus just for development's sake, but I am saying about us normal users.
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Well one plus has a lot worse camera but unfortunately breasts pixel in speed and battery life by far...
I have seen ppl owning one plus 5 having over that 12 hours of sot with custom rom and kernel...
I am a pixel user myself and I would love to see Google boosting so much our battery life. It is too bad that Google gets beaten in its own operating system in performance and battery life by a a smaller company and a bunch of developers...
I would definitely wait 2 month and get the xl 2.
I purchased the S8, HTC U11 and Sony XZ Premium. Nothing is as smooth as Google Pixel XL. Returned all of them and kept my Pixel XL.
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LOL no one gonna tell you to get an s8 on a google forum buddy.
I have both.
if you want faster update and some noticeable speed. get pixel xl
if you want gorgeous phone, with latest hardware, more features , SD card, wireless charging, water proof. get S8
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LOL no one gonna tell you to get an s8 on a google forum buddy.
I have both.
if you want faster update and some noticeable speed. get pixel xl
if you want gorgeous phone, with latest hardware, more features , SD card, wireless charging, water proof. get S8
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does anyone know why samsung phones always lag so horribly? can it be fixed on a users end or is it something that samsung would have to change as a company? ive noticed its had lagging issues every since the galaxy s5 but i didnt know if it was something that had to do with the cache or something slowing it down i remember on my galaxy s5 it would build up like a gb of cache within a day or two and soon as i cleared it out it would work extremely well again for a few minutes then itd be really crappy again.
You are going to get a lot of people say they owned a billion devices and they sold them all for the Pixel. You are also going to get people say that the pixel is great because it doesn't lag.
I guess you could say that a Galaxy S8 might lag, but you have to keep in mind, that it does ALOT more than a Pixel. Literally all the pixel has software wise over the S8 is that it is fast. That's it. The Galaxy S8 software features blow the Pixel out of the water. It can do so much, and has so many features built in right out of the box. Also keep in mind that S8 currently has full theme support which the Pixel cannot do (incase you get board of the layout/appearance etc). Something to also consider, is that the Pixel XL is wider and could be considered harder to hold than the S8+. Personally I find them both too big, but the S8+ is easier to hold, especially in portrait. Also that the S8 and the s8+ have bigger screens and better battery life in general than both Pixels.
In the end I think it's just software based. If you like to pay for extra apps, and get varied user experiences over UI's created by different developers, and put up with the Google issues they have with their own devices and how many updates and bug fixes they get, and you value speed over software features then Pixel is the best choice.
If you think aesthetics, software features, hardware features (water resist, better speaker, bigger screen, bigger battery etc) then S8+ is the best choice.
I'm sick of the issues with this Pixel XL and I am going to preorder the Note 8 as soon as it's available. Really wanted this Pixel to work but too many issues, mostly bluetooth but there are feature on the Note line that I actually used and never realized how much until I didn't have one.
Will I miss the fluidity of stock Android going to Note 9? Don't like the Pixel 3XL.
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I don't think you'll miss fluidity. The Note 9 shouldn't give you lag problems.
What you might miss is stock android. Samsung Experience isn't bad, but it isn't definitely for everyone.
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Will I miss the fluidity of stock Android going to Note 9? Don't like the Pixel 3XL.
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Yes. I did for 24 hours and returned it. Screen is amazing. Camera still is ok, but not the quality of Googles. The reason I didn't keep it was I still prefer simplicity of things. The Note 9, while extremely nice, is just loaded with so much ****. The S pen, very nice, but to be honest I'll rarely use it. Throw in the fact its over $1000 with taxes, I really couldn't justify having it. I loved the bigger cleaner brighter screen but again, it's that price. It's a great phone, but I found myself loading Oreo themes on it to keep myself sane. Ohhhhhhhhh BIGGEST FACTOR-no wifi calling added. I called Verizon and they weren't sure either. This was an imperative thing I need cause where I live signal is weak and I found myself almost unable to make calls at home.
I know this doesn't answer your question but I went from the Note 8 to the Pixel 2 XL as it is more reliable day to day use. Yes the Note series has some extra features but I prefer stock Android with monthly updates. Battery life has also been better on the Pixel 2 XL for me. However I would think that Samsung would have sorted battery issues with the Note 9s 4000 mah battery. I am still enjoying my Pixel 2 XL still runs smooth with no hiccups.
To me I would rather get Huawei Mate series over samsung Note series. Especially the upcoming Mate 20 Pro.
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Yes. I did for 24 hours and returned it. Screen is amazing. Camera still is ok, but not the quality of Googles. The reason I didn't keep it was I still prefer simplicity of things. The Note 9, while extremely nice, is just loaded with so much ****. The S pen, very nice, but to be honest I'll rarely use it. Throw in the fact its over $1000 with taxes, I really couldn't justify having it. I loved the bigger cleaner brighter screen but again, it's that price. It's a great phone, but I found myself loading Oreo themes on it to keep myself sane. Ohhhhhhhhh BIGGEST FACTOR-no wifi calling added. I called Verizon and they weren't sure either. This was an imperative thing I need cause where I live signal is weak and I found myself almost unable to make calls at home.
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You can make a Samsung phone look like a Pixel, but will still have all of Samsung's bloatware running in the background...which is why the Note 9 needs a 4000 mAh battery, and the Note 8 battery was inadequate.
If I ever go back to a Samsung phone, I will get a Note for the Spen. I didn't use the Spen much when I had my Note 2/3/4, and I probably wouldn't use it now. But the Spen is the only feature that makes Samsung truly unique. A Samsung phone without a Spen is just another phone but with a bunch of crap that I will never need.
It sounds like you must have purchased an unlocked Note 9. Most unlocked phones never allow WiFi calling or visual voicemail on VZW. Pixels are a rare exception.
I haven't yet but I will. Lately my Pixel 2 XL is crazy laggy and I'm not getting a Pixel 3 XL with only 4GB of RAM.
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What I would give for the Note 9 HW with Google SW .. Until then I'm sticking with the SW from Google
If I were to switch phones (which I won't) it would be the OnePlus 6 or OnePlus 6T
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What I would give for the Note 9 HW with Google SW .. Until then I'm sticking with the SW from Google
If I were to switch phones (which I won't) it would be the OnePlus 6 or OnePlus 6T
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Its a shame OP6 doesn't work on CMDA networks as I require Verizon network for where I work.
Switched From Pixel 2XL to Note 9 Today. . .
And I'm already regretting it. Verizon had a BOGO, and since I was porting my brother's line in anyway, decided to treat myself to a new Note 9, damn the fact I only got my Pixel 2XL the week of Christmas.
This is a nice rig, feels substantial and solid, but chew gum, Google cooks Android just the way I like it, and Samsung's UI is still just too busy for me to abide. My poor wife will prolly find herself with an unexpected upgrade to a Note 9 of own by week's end lol.
That said, if anyone knows of some witchcraft that'll allow me to see least make this Note 9 LOOK look like my beloved Pixel 2XL, please, let me know.
Thank you -zs
Nope, after using flagship Samsung devices for years, I'm keeping my "stock", bloatfree Android experience.
Quality software > slightly better hardware
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You can make a Samsung phone look like a Pixel, but will still have all of Samsung's bloatware running in the background...which is why the Note 9 needs a 4000 mAh battery, and the Note 8 battery was inadequate.
If I ever go back to a Samsung phone, I will get a Note for the Spen. I didn't use the Spen much when I had my Note 2/3/4, and I probably wouldn't use it now. But the Spen is the only feature that makes Samsung truly unique. A Samsung phone without a Spen is just another phone but with a bunch of crap that I will never need.
It sounds like you must have purchased an unlocked Note 9. Most unlocked phones never allow WiFi calling or visual voicemail on VZW. Pixels are a rare exception.
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The closest you can get to making a Note 9 (or any other Samsung phone) look like a Pixel is by installing the Pixel launcher which is only a small part.
I think you should wait and keep the pixel 2 xl. It's highly likely that next year's s10 and note 10 will have a much more radical design with way better specs. The note 9 while nice, is nothing special. Samsung is now under more pressure than ever to update their design. My advice keep the phone , save your money.
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I know I sure as hell won't be getting a Note 9. I've been on stock Android since replacing my old Galaxy S2(that phone was such a piece of ****...worst purchase I've ever made) with a Nexus 5 followed by a Nexus 5X and my current Pixel 2 XL. Even though Samsung's software has improved quite a bit since the Galaxy S2 I still personally think it's crap compared to stock Android. Haven't used the Note 9 enough to tell if there is any lag but the Note 8 still had noticable lag and still has the same issues with greatly decreased performance after major updates that the Galaxy S2 had.
Also, considering the hardware the Note 9 battery life seems to be unimpressive. A brand new phone with a SD 845 and 4000mAh battery seems to be getting the same battery life as my 10 month old Pixel 2 XL with a SD 835 and 3520mAh battery.
I did, used it for 6 days and am back to my Pixel 2 XL and plan on selling the Note 9 on Swappa. Note 9 is nice and is certainly feature rich, but I just wasn't feeling it.
I have both the Pixel 2 XL and an unlocked Note 9, 512 GB/8 GB RAM. The software experience on the Pixel 2 XL is smoother but lacks customization. Here's what I did to achieve a clean look on the Note 9 and performance is very fast.
Install Nova Launcher
Install PixelizeD theme
Install patched Google Phone app
Install Nova Launcher
Install Gboard
Install Android Messages or Textra
Disable or deny permissions to Samsung equivalents
The Note 9 with better/bigger screen, bigger battery, more RAM, wireless charging, theme options is definitely my daily driver.
The Pixel 2 XL doesn't require any tweaks for smooth performance, but some may find the software too minimalist. The superior camera and fast updates are it's strongest selling points at the moment. Once Google fully implements its new material design with light and dark themes, it may finally have the cohesive look that skinned interfaces have provided.
Until (or if? ) Samsung fixes this I cannot foresee myself using the Note 9. This picture is unacceptable for a $1000+ device IMO
So, full disclosure - after posting the same pics on another forum someone suggested I check the rear picture camera size setting on my Note 9. Kinda feel stupid for not thinking about that myself as I have been tinkering with smartphones going on 10 years now ... but as it would turn out the size was set to 18.5:9 (7.9 MP) and not 4:3 (12 MP). Don't recall ever messing with this setting, but even if I did I would not opt for the lower MPs ... I just assumed it would be set to the max MP out of the box. Anyways, hoping this makes a substantial difference in what I've been seeing from the Note 9 pics, we shall see.
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So, full disclosure - after posting the same pics on another forum someone suggested I check the rear picture camera size setting on my Note 9. Kinda feel stupid for not thinking about that myself as I have been tinkering with smartphones going on 10 years now ... but as it would turn out the size was set to 18.5:9 (7.9 MP) and not 4:3 (12 MP). Don't recall ever messing with this setting, but even if I did I would not opt for the lower MPs ... I just assumed it would be set to the max MP out of the box. Anyways, hoping this makes a substantial difference in what I've been seeing from the Note 9 pics, we shall see.
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It still suggests a bug, because the camera should be capturing with square pixels, and the pixels should be displayed 1:1 -- scaled linearly in both dimensions.
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I haven't yet but I will. Lately my Pixel 2 XL is crazy laggy and I'm not getting a Pixel 3 XL with only 4GB of RAM.
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Return it if it is crazy laggy. They will switch it out for you no question aaked
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Until (or if? ) Samsung fixes this I cannot foresee myself using the Note 9. This picture is unacceptable for a $1000+ device IMO
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Taimen is still a slayer! Yaass!
I'm in the process of getting a new phone in the coming days. To keep it simple here, i'm debating 3XL or S10(e). I'm not going to wait long enough for the Pixel 4 to come out. OnePlus 7 Pro is sadly not available through my carrier.
So, is the 3XL still a good deal when Price is identical to the S10(e)? I've had Samsung in the past and Nexus's before that. I now the Samsung OS and am fine with it. I live in Europe, so getting AOSP for the S10 should be an option. Camera is important but not priority one. An overall fluid/fast system is more important to me. I also don't care to much for specs. Solid Batterylife is on my list too. I'm not a poweruser, so 3-4 hours SOT should be enough for a day or two. Oh, and i don't have a Problem with either notch or holepunch.
With that, would you get the 3XL for guaranteed Android Q and faster Updates, or the S10 for better specs/Display and being overall newer?
I had the chance of one plus, Samsung S10, Huawei p30pro. Chose the pixel for the updates and camera. No regrets whatsoever. Camera stunning, updates each month, 5-6 hours screen time, great build, wireless charging and IP rating, smooth as performance and a very underrated screen. Coming from the LG G7, which I loved, this phone is a level up in everyway.
@domsch1988 Why not the 3a XL? Much better value especially if you're not a power user. Only thing it's not waterproof and has no wireless charging, slightly lower processor but a great phone.
go for the OnePlus. I've played with it (friend bought it) and its solid. I have a 3XL but if I can do it over, i'd either stick with the 2XL or upgrade to the OnePlus.
I still think the Pixel 3 XL is the Android phone to get, until the 4 XL in Oct. Best camera, smooth OS, timely updates every month, no bloatware.
What other phone is out there? Galaxy S10? LOL I'll pass. LG G8 or V50 ? No thanks. OnePlus, yeah they are are good, but, not the best camera, and some features missing
I would choose Oneplus. I'm so disappointed with the Pixel 3 XL. The fingerprint sensor sucks. I had the 1+ 5T and it was far better than this. It's my last Pixel.
I'll change my 3 XL for a 5 XL, that's how much I love it.
for me pixel 3 xl is the phone to buy because its a nice design lovely to hold timely updates. The only thing am not happy about is the ram and how its managed i would have liked to see an extra 2 gigs here.
Traded my S10 Plus for the Pixel 3 XL.
Great decision in my view. Running Android Q beta 4, no need to carry DSLR with me (S10 camera was awful).
Only downside is the RAM and it's management. Would choose it over again in a heartbeat
bobby janow said:
@domsch1988 Why not the 3a XL? Much better value especially if you're not a power user. Only thing it's not waterproof and has no wireless charging, slightly lower processor but a great phone.
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Since i'm getting it on Contract, they are equal in price (basically 1€ without any change in what the plan will cost me). The 3a will be getting guaranteed Updates for 6 Months longer. Other than that, i feel the 3XL is far better.
If i'd pay for it up front, i agree 100%. I'm currently rocking a Redmin Note 5 Pro. So i'm confident, that the Hardware in the 3aXL would be well enough. I just don't have the value benefit when both phones cost the same in my case.
To everyone else: I really appreciate the input. Seems the Pixel is still the Phone to get. Will be my first time getting a phone for the camera. But with my wife and me expecting a child, i'm sure that's a great decision
Despite what I have read of other's experiences with this phone, in my case it is the absolute best phone I have ever had. Coming from a long line of Samsung Note phones and Galaxy phones, it just can't compare. I highly recommend it. Updates are timely and without delay on the first Monday of every month. It is very responsive and the camera is the best in the industry. I have learned with this phone that specs mean nothing if the software is not optimized. Samsung phone shave great specs but software (IMO) is not optimized. I got tired of Samsung's locked bootloader, no root on phones and batteries that after 6 months did not last more than a few hours. For me, this is the ONLY phone worth the money today.
Easy. Get the 3xl or even 3aXL and save some money. Either will be fantastic.
Other than Google not being able to fix the sound (changes from clear to bassy/muffled and back randomly) this phone is awesome.
yaron316 said:
Traded my S10 Plus for the Pixel 3 XL.
Great decision in my view. Running Android Q beta 4, no need to carry DSLR with me (S10 camera was awful).
Only downside is the RAM and it's management. Would choose it over again in a heartbeat
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This. I tried the S9+ then the S10+. Couldn't wait to get back to the Pixel.
nyydynasty said:
go for the OnePlus. I've played with it (friend bought it) and its solid. I have a 3XL but if I can do it over, i'd either stick with the 2XL or upgrade to the OnePlus.
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The OnePlus is no upgrade IMO. I just spent a week testing both the OnePlus 7 Pro and the P3 XL and the bottom line is that the two phones are a perfect example of specs not telling the whole story. The OnePlus is nice but in the end it went back and I kept the P3 XL. Main issues with the OnePlus was the distortion caused by the curved edges (why did they do that? Loss of functionality for nothing in return... if i wanted a fashion statement I'd buy an iPhone.) I don't get why everyone gets hysterical over a notch that hardly ever really intrudes on the P3 XL while ignoring the distortion of the O7P that is annoying 100% of the time. Also in spite of all the reviews gushing over the 90 fps display it really was a big... meh. If you look closely it is somewhat smoother than the 60 fps flagships but these are already so good that the slight improvement is just not that big a deal and I think I'd probably have ended up just leaving the 90 fps option off to get the 10% or so battery life back. But the OP7 display was brighter than the P3 XL, I'll give it that.
The other problem on the OP7P was the camera. It's come a long way and is certainly competitive with the big boys but I found the P3's image to be superior most of the time. If you aren't picky about the camera then the P7 should be fine. Last is the general feel of the phone and the pure Google Pixel OS (and all the little nonessential but nice goodies) made the P3 just feel more comfortable and day-to-day usable to me. Also FWIW the P3 supports Verizon WiFi calling and the OP7 does not (or at least I couldn't find any setting that would make it work.) Something that won't matter for some but will for others so just mentioning it. Also if you think you may ever want to use Google Fi (for the international coverage if nothing else) then the Pixel is the better choice, also a factor that may or may not matter depending on the user.
I'm not hating on the OnePlus, it's a great phone and would probably be my phone if it weren't for the P3 XL. But an 'upgrade'? Nah.
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At this point in the year I would honestly wait things out to see what happens with the Pixel 4. I love the Pixel 3xl and wouldn't buy anything else at this point. The first phone that I enjoy using and the camera is awesome! With the Pixel 4 it can only get better, even if the numbers are still not up with the S10 it wouldn't matter to me. Fast, no bloatware and the ability to take it anywhere and use it anywhere is what I enjoy.
S10e would be a downgrade in my opinion.
I actually ordered the Snapdragon S10e and quickly realised I miss that higher quality screen of the Pixel 3 XL. As this was the Snapdragon S10e I had gcam installed but it was very buggy and just nothing like the original.
The pixel 3 XL has a wider screen too, makes viewing content a lot better, the Samsung phones are narrow so it almost seems like you lose out on content, for me it was noticeably enough to keep this phone!