Will I miss the fluidity of stock Android going to Note 9? Don't like the Pixel 3XL.
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I don't think you'll miss fluidity. The Note 9 shouldn't give you lag problems.
What you might miss is stock android. Samsung Experience isn't bad, but it isn't definitely for everyone.
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Will I miss the fluidity of stock Android going to Note 9? Don't like the Pixel 3XL.
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Yes. I did for 24 hours and returned it. Screen is amazing. Camera still is ok, but not the quality of Googles. The reason I didn't keep it was I still prefer simplicity of things. The Note 9, while extremely nice, is just loaded with so much ****. The S pen, very nice, but to be honest I'll rarely use it. Throw in the fact its over $1000 with taxes, I really couldn't justify having it. I loved the bigger cleaner brighter screen but again, it's that price. It's a great phone, but I found myself loading Oreo themes on it to keep myself sane. Ohhhhhhhhh BIGGEST FACTOR-no wifi calling added. I called Verizon and they weren't sure either. This was an imperative thing I need cause where I live signal is weak and I found myself almost unable to make calls at home.
I know this doesn't answer your question but I went from the Note 8 to the Pixel 2 XL as it is more reliable day to day use. Yes the Note series has some extra features but I prefer stock Android with monthly updates. Battery life has also been better on the Pixel 2 XL for me. However I would think that Samsung would have sorted battery issues with the Note 9s 4000 mah battery. I am still enjoying my Pixel 2 XL still runs smooth with no hiccups.
To me I would rather get Huawei Mate series over samsung Note series. Especially the upcoming Mate 20 Pro.
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Yes. I did for 24 hours and returned it. Screen is amazing. Camera still is ok, but not the quality of Googles. The reason I didn't keep it was I still prefer simplicity of things. The Note 9, while extremely nice, is just loaded with so much ****. The S pen, very nice, but to be honest I'll rarely use it. Throw in the fact its over $1000 with taxes, I really couldn't justify having it. I loved the bigger cleaner brighter screen but again, it's that price. It's a great phone, but I found myself loading Oreo themes on it to keep myself sane. Ohhhhhhhhh BIGGEST FACTOR-no wifi calling added. I called Verizon and they weren't sure either. This was an imperative thing I need cause where I live signal is weak and I found myself almost unable to make calls at home.
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You can make a Samsung phone look like a Pixel, but will still have all of Samsung's bloatware running in the background...which is why the Note 9 needs a 4000 mAh battery, and the Note 8 battery was inadequate.
If I ever go back to a Samsung phone, I will get a Note for the Spen. I didn't use the Spen much when I had my Note 2/3/4, and I probably wouldn't use it now. But the Spen is the only feature that makes Samsung truly unique. A Samsung phone without a Spen is just another phone but with a bunch of crap that I will never need.
It sounds like you must have purchased an unlocked Note 9. Most unlocked phones never allow WiFi calling or visual voicemail on VZW. Pixels are a rare exception.
I haven't yet but I will. Lately my Pixel 2 XL is crazy laggy and I'm not getting a Pixel 3 XL with only 4GB of RAM.
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What I would give for the Note 9 HW with Google SW .. Until then I'm sticking with the SW from Google
If I were to switch phones (which I won't) it would be the OnePlus 6 or OnePlus 6T
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What I would give for the Note 9 HW with Google SW .. Until then I'm sticking with the SW from Google
If I were to switch phones (which I won't) it would be the OnePlus 6 or OnePlus 6T
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Its a shame OP6 doesn't work on CMDA networks as I require Verizon network for where I work.
Switched From Pixel 2XL to Note 9 Today. . .
And I'm already regretting it. Verizon had a BOGO, and since I was porting my brother's line in anyway, decided to treat myself to a new Note 9, damn the fact I only got my Pixel 2XL the week of Christmas.
This is a nice rig, feels substantial and solid, but chew gum, Google cooks Android just the way I like it, and Samsung's UI is still just too busy for me to abide. My poor wife will prolly find herself with an unexpected upgrade to a Note 9 of own by week's end lol.
That said, if anyone knows of some witchcraft that'll allow me to see least make this Note 9 LOOK look like my beloved Pixel 2XL, please, let me know.
Thank you -zs
Nope, after using flagship Samsung devices for years, I'm keeping my "stock", bloatfree Android experience.
Quality software > slightly better hardware
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You can make a Samsung phone look like a Pixel, but will still have all of Samsung's bloatware running in the background...which is why the Note 9 needs a 4000 mAh battery, and the Note 8 battery was inadequate.
If I ever go back to a Samsung phone, I will get a Note for the Spen. I didn't use the Spen much when I had my Note 2/3/4, and I probably wouldn't use it now. But the Spen is the only feature that makes Samsung truly unique. A Samsung phone without a Spen is just another phone but with a bunch of crap that I will never need.
It sounds like you must have purchased an unlocked Note 9. Most unlocked phones never allow WiFi calling or visual voicemail on VZW. Pixels are a rare exception.
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The closest you can get to making a Note 9 (or any other Samsung phone) look like a Pixel is by installing the Pixel launcher which is only a small part.
I think you should wait and keep the pixel 2 xl. It's highly likely that next year's s10 and note 10 will have a much more radical design with way better specs. The note 9 while nice, is nothing special. Samsung is now under more pressure than ever to update their design. My advice keep the phone , save your money.
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I know I sure as hell won't be getting a Note 9. I've been on stock Android since replacing my old Galaxy S2(that phone was such a piece of ****...worst purchase I've ever made) with a Nexus 5 followed by a Nexus 5X and my current Pixel 2 XL. Even though Samsung's software has improved quite a bit since the Galaxy S2 I still personally think it's crap compared to stock Android. Haven't used the Note 9 enough to tell if there is any lag but the Note 8 still had noticable lag and still has the same issues with greatly decreased performance after major updates that the Galaxy S2 had.
Also, considering the hardware the Note 9 battery life seems to be unimpressive. A brand new phone with a SD 845 and 4000mAh battery seems to be getting the same battery life as my 10 month old Pixel 2 XL with a SD 835 and 3520mAh battery.
I did, used it for 6 days and am back to my Pixel 2 XL and plan on selling the Note 9 on Swappa. Note 9 is nice and is certainly feature rich, but I just wasn't feeling it.
I have both the Pixel 2 XL and an unlocked Note 9, 512 GB/8 GB RAM. The software experience on the Pixel 2 XL is smoother but lacks customization. Here's what I did to achieve a clean look on the Note 9 and performance is very fast.
Install Nova Launcher
Install PixelizeD theme
Install patched Google Phone app
Install Nova Launcher
Install Gboard
Install Android Messages or Textra
Disable or deny permissions to Samsung equivalents
The Note 9 with better/bigger screen, bigger battery, more RAM, wireless charging, theme options is definitely my daily driver.
The Pixel 2 XL doesn't require any tweaks for smooth performance, but some may find the software too minimalist. The superior camera and fast updates are it's strongest selling points at the moment. Once Google fully implements its new material design with light and dark themes, it may finally have the cohesive look that skinned interfaces have provided.
Until (or if? ) Samsung fixes this I cannot foresee myself using the Note 9. This picture is unacceptable for a $1000+ device IMO
So, full disclosure - after posting the same pics on another forum someone suggested I check the rear picture camera size setting on my Note 9. Kinda feel stupid for not thinking about that myself as I have been tinkering with smartphones going on 10 years now ... but as it would turn out the size was set to 18.5:9 (7.9 MP) and not 4:3 (12 MP). Don't recall ever messing with this setting, but even if I did I would not opt for the lower MPs ... I just assumed it would be set to the max MP out of the box. Anyways, hoping this makes a substantial difference in what I've been seeing from the Note 9 pics, we shall see.
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So, full disclosure - after posting the same pics on another forum someone suggested I check the rear picture camera size setting on my Note 9. Kinda feel stupid for not thinking about that myself as I have been tinkering with smartphones going on 10 years now ... but as it would turn out the size was set to 18.5:9 (7.9 MP) and not 4:3 (12 MP). Don't recall ever messing with this setting, but even if I did I would not opt for the lower MPs ... I just assumed it would be set to the max MP out of the box. Anyways, hoping this makes a substantial difference in what I've been seeing from the Note 9 pics, we shall see.
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It still suggests a bug, because the camera should be capturing with square pixels, and the pixels should be displayed 1:1 -- scaled linearly in both dimensions.
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I haven't yet but I will. Lately my Pixel 2 XL is crazy laggy and I'm not getting a Pixel 3 XL with only 4GB of RAM.
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Return it if it is crazy laggy. They will switch it out for you no question aaked
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Until (or if? ) Samsung fixes this I cannot foresee myself using the Note 9. This picture is unacceptable for a $1000+ device IMO
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Taimen is still a slayer! Yaass!
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I returned my note 7..Now im torn between getting the "new" toy on the block the pixel xl or waiting for something from samsung in feb march...i mean pixel is getting great reviews but im hearing some great specs from samsung about the galaxy s8 (4k screen snapdragon 830 etc) enhanced vr etc...
decisions decisions
I have my old note 4 for now so im not without a device...
Pixel XL now and the new Note or whatever they'll call it next year
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I returned my note 7..Now im torn between getting the "new" toy on the block the pixel xl or waiting for something from samsung in feb march...i mean pixel is getting great reviews but im hearing some great specs from samsung about the galaxy s8 (4k screen snapdragon 830 etc) enhanced vr etc...
decisions decisions
I have my old note 4 for now so im not without a device...
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I've been a Samsung user since the Galaxy S 2 (or should I say II? ). I've lost my confidence due to the battery issue... Still they don't seem to know the actual issue, I just can't trust them. On the other hand I always hated how they skinned their phones, their launcher is terrible. And the Android updates always took months. I'm going Pixel and not looking back now. Next year probably we'll have a Pixel 2 with similar specs as the S8 or whatever they'll call it.
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Get the Pixel XL used (resale value is probably pretty low), then get the S8 when it releases.
Who has the patience to wait till Feb or March. Buy what's awesome and see when S8 releases.
I just returned my note7 and picked up a cheap $200 huawei to use whileni wait for my pixel.
This phone makes remeber why i like unbloated phones. Its way faster interface wise than my note7 was, so snappy.
I considered holding out for an s8 but no way. And unbloated pixel should be way faster than even an s8 with superior cpu/gpu in real life usage.
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Easy. Get the Pixel now, then get the S8 when it drops. Not enough money? Work more.
Anything from Samsung (if it does not catch fire) is filled with bloat I do not want.
But why wait for the S8 ?
I think you should wait for the Galaxy S9 .... got to be better than S8
Every six months a new device with the new latest things comes out, so if you wait for the S8 in March you might as well wait for the pixel 2 in September october 2017.. and so on..
I was in a similar quandry, quite fancied a 4K screen for VR and the next gen chips from Samsung and Qualcomm look like quite a bump, but yes still 5 months of and will be slowed down by Samsung's Android implementation, lack of updates and gimmicky but less functional edge screen with possiby with top and bottom edge. On top of that the difficulty of taking samsung phones on air planes etc and it was a no brainer. 128GB with photo and video cloud offloading should negate the need for an SD card, if not a simple OTG flash drive will be good enough. So I say go for it, go for the pixel like me, it will stay upto date alot longer then the S8 will and will have proper updates with real features.
Just saw the pixel xl at the verizon store
Its amazing
Getting it asap
I snatched a 128gb black xl. I have to say, I'm pretty smitten with it. It's no Note7, but I'll be damned if it's not better in a lot of ways. The fingerprint scanner, the overall UI, the phone dialer, overall speed, all much better. And, the really nice oled FLAT screen. It's just nice. When Note 8 comes out I'll find a way to trade up. In the meantime, I do love this Pixel.
I have the same situation too, I returned my Note7 and decided to wait for Galaxy S8. I will buy S8.
I would personally wait. I kind of wish I would have but then again development on the s8 will probably be worse than the pixel.
Pixel > Locked BL (S8)
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Note 4 is a good device with good development.
If you like flashing ROM's and playing with Xposed, then stick with the N4 for a while longer.
Just IMO.
There is no Xposed for Nougat at this time.
And development for Pixel is still experiencing growing pains.
Meanwhile, you can do almost whatever you want with a Note 4 provided it's got the unlocked bootloader.
My buddy just gave up his Note 5 to go back to his Note 4.
I would still have my MotoX Pure 2015 if I knew there would be so many development issues with both Nougat *and* the Pixel.
But I do love how fast the Pixel does everything.
A person who would like to get something like an S8 or whatever should also look at the V and G series phones from LG, and other heavily modified android skins. Pixel, OnePlus aren't for them.
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A person who would like to get something like an S8 or whatever should also look at the V and G series phones from LG, and other heavily modified android skins. Pixel, OnePlus aren't for them.
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Agreed. An LG V20, is probably the best bang for your buck phone out there (on Verizon anyway) and easily the most underrated phone of 2016 (well... Maybe the Moto Z?).
No thanks on the laggy Samsung phones.
Ex Note 7 user here. I have always had a much better user experience with the stock android devices (nexus, Moto x) than samsung but I tried the note 7. I loved it but it still was not fluid. I was more in love with the form factor than the operations of the device. After that I tried the OP3 and no way I will ever purchase another one plus device. Is it good for the price? yup. Does it work...nope. Random reboots while using your gps to make an appointment in downtown Boston don't really fly with me. Bought a pixel XL and I'm not looking back. Everything works as it should all the time. Battery is great and camera is too. I have not had any issues just like I had no issues with my previous Nexus devices. I will jump on the next pixel as well. I'm done with "extra features" skinned android and cheaper budget alternatives.
I'm so torn on waiting until ****ing end of april for s8 or getting the xl now. I have the note 3 rooted/rom, and I love it, so I would love to be able to root again. On the flipside, the new 835 chip supporting its own VR, 4k screen, along with improvements to camera and whatnot makes this decision very hard.
1. I'm curious to know what other phone you considered before you got a Pixel XL.
2.. What features made the choice easy in your mind?
I'm struggling with this and am strongly leaning towards an LG V20 for the following reasons:
- Slightly bigger screen
- Removable battery
- as good or a close second (based on a couple of reviews I've seen) camera as on the Pixel
- price
The only two potential cons are (as far as I'm concerned anyway)
- With a Pixel, you'll get the latest Android updates for the next two years.
- The new Google assistant which may not come to the V20 (as it appears that Google want to differentiate their phones from other Android phones). I really want this feature even though the reviews say its really a 1.0 version and needs work.
Im forced to get a new phone so I was definitely looking around.
1) The new Moto lines, LG v20, S7 edge, and possibly the iPhone 7 for the hell of it.
2) I mainly look for a good camera, battery, and speed. The pixel has a great camera, the batter is big enough (XL) and it has one of the latest processing chip. These are enough got me to get the pixel xl. The unlimited storage is also a bonus since I've been using google photos to save my pictures and videos.
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Im forced to get a new phone so I was definitely looking around.
1) The new Moto lines, LG v20, S7 edge, and possibly the iPhone 7 for the hell of it.
2) I mainly look for a good camera, battery, and speed. The pixel has a great camera, the batter is big enough (XL) and it has one of the latest processing chip. These are enough got me to get the pixel xl. The unlimited storage is also a bonus since I've been using google photos to save my pictures and videos.
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Literally my exact opinion, minus the iphone 7. i was kind of debating hoping on the iphone 6+, but after playing with my wifes for a few days that idea was out the door quick.
S7 edge and iPhone 7
Got the iPhone 7, use it for a month...using s7 edge now because I have a feeling the pixel and pixel xl will not be that great of the device because of who's manufacturing it.
Note 7. Only have a Pixel XL because it's the only large screen device that sucks less than the others.
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I still have my S7 Edge Exynos running DBT German unlock firmware. Its difficult because the S7 has a better screen, battery, wireless charging as well as a comperable camera, all for $320 less than the Pixel XL costs (vs what i'd get selling my S7 Edge)
I couldn't find a phone on the market I liked more than my note 7. For me it came down to the iPhone 7 or the pixel xl. I picked the pixel xl and while I do like it. The no ard card, no water resistance and 32gb kills it for me. Sucks cause I really do like the phone but those 3 are big cons for me. Still not sure what I'm going to do. Btw I don't have patience to wait for 128gb
Well I feel the same as everyone else....love my note 7....don't want to be stuck with an already old phone(S7edge) for another 2 years....so I ordered the Pixel XL 128g black.....
Now I'm hearing they may let the ones that got S7edges to upgrade to a S8 or Note 8 free.....ugg
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Well I feel the same as everyone else....love my note 7....don't want to be stuck with an already old phone(S7edge) for another 2 years....so I ordered the Pixel XML 128g black.....
Now I'm hearing they may let the ones that got S7edges to upgrade to a S8 or Note 8 free.....ugg
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You don't want an S8. You want a Note 8
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LGV20 but took too long to release on Verizon so I got the Pixel XL
Honestly I didn't consider anything else once the second recall came around. I was more than happy with my Note 7, though
Had the Note 7 and loved it... Now I love this even more! No bugs or issues at all! Got 15hrs off battery and 4.5hrs SOT today in a crappy cell service zone. Pretty good for day 2.
I was considering the V20 as well. But since it didn't come to any carrier in Australia, I figured since I'm buying a phone outright, I'll go with the Pixel XL
What's your experience so far with the Pixel XL?
I'm considering the Pixel XL but looks like there're a lot to lose in term of features (QI chargin, edge, compact body, SPay,...). I flashed mine S7e with the Unlocked U firmware so the bloatware is minimal and I'm getting >7hrs SOT. Is it worth it to switch?
Takes a little getting used to at first, I had the note 7, I will say this thing is a beast and doesn't lag like my note 7 did, also getting better battery with the same usage.
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Takes a little getting used to at first, I had the note 7, I will say this thing is a beast and doesn't lag like my note 7 did, also getting better battery with the same usage.
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The carrier's junks are bad. Since switched to the unlock firmware, my S7e feels like a different phone. No lag, run cooler, better battery life...
I came from the S7 (regular) and I've not looked back.
Love the bigger screen, the buttery smooth stock android and the battery is amazing (for my usage anyway!)
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I came from the S7 (regular) and I've not looked back.
Love the bigger screen, the buttery smooth stock android and the battery is amazing (for my usage anyway!)
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Not to mention it's possible at the moment to unlock, root, and do what you want with it. Really liking the photo sync at full resolution.
I've come from the s7e and I prefer this phone. I go through phones multiple times a year and this thing is a beast. Battery life is a lot better than my s7e and I much prefer the plain Android experience. Will hold onto this unless the mate 9 turns out to be epic.
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I upgraded from S7Edge. Its been a week now and i am loving pixel XL. Edge on S7Edge wasn't very useful to me...
just pulled the trigger today and ordered the xl, had the note 7, traded it in and was using my s6 for the time being. My s6 has turned into a giant pile, so i can not wait for december 9th when my xl ships. glad to hear some of the positive reviews
Upgraded to a Note 7 from a S7 Edge and to the Pixel XL from a Note 7... Enjoying the phone so far
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Came from a Note 7. There are definitely things I like about the pixel, but I certainly miss the Note. The s-pen, screen write, AoD, gif maker.. it just sucks to lose all that.
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Had the Note series since version 2. Had to find something to replace my 7. Never thought I would like a non Note device as much as I do this Pixel XL. Next year is going to be a tough choice between second generation Pixel or whatever Sammy calls the next Note. I do miss the AOD and Spen slightly, but Assistant, stock Android, battery life, always listening Google make up for it enough.
The main thing i miss from my Note 7 is the display ...boy nothing really seems to compare when outside .
been a samsung fan from the s1, had every phone, will no longer buy samsung due to locked bootloaders and bloated system even without carrier bloat. every single samsung lags, newer ones not as bad but still lag including the note 7 (bomb edition). the pixel just flies through every task, and being that your on xda, i would assume you like to mod your device, well in that category there is absolutely no comparason
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The main thing i miss from my Note 7 is the display ...boy nothing really seems to compare when outside .
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Use http://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-xl/development/kernel-elementalx-pxl-0-02-t3487072 and you can turn on HBM (high brightness mode) while outdoors, its just as bright if not brighter than my note 7.
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Use http://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-xl/development/kernel-elementalx-pxl-0-02-t3487072 and you can turn on HBM (high brightness mode) while outdoors, its just as bright if not brighter than my note 7.
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Thats exactly what ive been using , i have an app that sets it to auto just a bit flacky for me it likes to kick off to quickly. When i keep it on i will agree it matches close to the note 7, but i liked the stock adaptive brightness that got into to the high brightness smoothly .... just a little picky i know
No going back to samsung now. I love their camera, i love their crazy fast autofocus but damn the software on the XL, just spoils you. This is truly lag free and an amazingly refreshing experience. It's no nonsense, cuts to the job of getting things done and has really good battery life.
I Had s7e, and the pixel flies in comparison, or at least it feels that way. Camera on s7e seemed to load just a tad quicker, but otherwise the pixel is much better
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Had the Note series since version 2. Had to find something to replace my 7. Never thought I would like a non Note device as much as I do this Pixel XL. Next year is going to be a tough choice between second generation Pixel or whatever Sammy calls the next Note. I do miss the AOD and Spen slightly, but Assistant, stock Android, battery life, always listening Google make up for it enough.
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Assistant is nice but its essentially google now with games. Nevermind there are some things that GA doesnt do that Google Now does currently like tell you what song is currently playing.
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Assistant is nice but its essentially google now with games. Nevermind there are some things that GA doesnt do that Google Now does currently like tell you what song is currently playing.
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Yeah. I believe when they release the code for the developers to have third party access this month or next, the usefulness will change dramatically. Instead of google baking stuff in, they set up the AI to accommodate and going to let devs go wild. B4 long we will see it's true power. Also, I was more speaking of always listening assistant that I use often. I HATE Sammy disabling it and forcing S Voice. So I never even used it on Notes 5 or 7. Nice to have the google back.
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Yeah. I believe when they release the code for the developers to have third party access this month or next, the usefulness will change dramatically. Instead of google baking stuff in, they set up the AI to accommodate and going to let devs go wild. B4 long we will see it's true power. Also, I was more speaking of always listening assistant that I use often. I HATE Sammy disabling it and forcing S Voice. So I never even used it on Notes 5 or 7. Nice to have the google back.
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What did Samsung disable? On my Note 7 and S7e I used Google Now fine and assistant in allo worked fine. They crippled the listening from always on when the screen is off to only allow when plugged in. I doubt it's pushing s voice though. I've never even opened the s voice app since the Note 4. Only reason I don't disable it is because it's tied to the voice to text framework
Correction, only reason I DIDN'T disable it, past tense
I am just curious if anyone here is considering the OnePlus 6?
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I am just curious if anyone here is considering the OnePlus 6?
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I'd consider the snot out of it if it weren't for 2 things...1. THE NOTCH!!!!! 2. It doesn't work on my provider! ??
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I'd consider the snot out of it if it weren't for 2 things...1. THE NOTCH!!!!! 2. It doesn't work on my provider!
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Same. I wonder if they realize how many customers they are losing out on by continuing to not put in certain bands. Or, do they need someone's permission? Either way: notch = no sale, for me.
I don't see the reason for switching to a OP6. I don't even consider it as an upgrade.
OnePlus screens have never been amazing
Snapdragon 845 over 835... do you really need the difference in processing power?
Camera is going to be definitely worse, even the S9 still struggles against the Pixel 2.
Software updates aren't going to be faster, that's for sure
Battery life and RAM might be better though I have never ever had RAM problems with my Pixel 2. RAM is there for being used, free ram is wasted ram.
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I don't see the reason for switching to a OP6. I don't even consider it as an upgrade.
OnePlus screens have never been amazing
Snapdragon 845 over 835... do you really need the difference in processing power?
Camera is going to be definitely worse, even the S9 still struggles against the Pixel 2.
Software updates aren't going to be faster, that's for sure
Battery life and RAM might be better though I have never ever had RAM problems with my Pixel 2. RAM is there for being used, free ram is wasted ram.
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Very good points. I would only consider one as something extra to play with, not a daily driver.
On your first point, I certainly wouldn't describe the Pixel 2XL's screen as amazing, either. I'm not referring to blue shift. That doesn't bother me. I'm more about ghost swipes and graininess.
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Very good points. I would only consider one as something extra to play with, not a daily driver.
On your first point, I certainly wouldn't describe the Pixel 2XL's screen as amazing, either. I'm not referring to blue shift. That doesn't bother me. I'm more about ghost swipes and graininess.
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I understand somebody can upgrade their Pixel 2 XL to an S9 or S9+ with the main reason of having a way better screen, but I think OP6 screen will not be worth the switch.
If it worked on VZW, would ditch the Pixel and go back to the OnePlus in a second. It is better in every single way except the camera. But the 6 might close that gap more.
one thing is having used 3, 3T and 5, there is a touch latency where it cannot even beat Nexus 6p. seems liek there is lag while 6p, 2xl there isnt any.
however the 6 do interest me with the screen to size ratio.. notch doesnt bother me
Nada! Our Pixel XL 2 keeps getting better and better with more Development! Salute'
I was an upgrade every year user before but have turned into an every two year person now. So 2019 for me but I'm also still waiting for a Sprint compatible variant which will probably never come. I'll never be switching carriers as Sprint is good everywhere I need it to be and cost is good.
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I was thinking about getting one as a secondary device, just because it seems like OnePlus is replacing/has replaced the now dead Nexus line in terms of development.
It would be nice to have a device to just tinker with and install mods, ROMs, kernels, and so on.
But I'd definitely keep the Pixel 2 XL as my daily driver just because of things like the camera and overall smoothness of stock Android.
No... After using Samsung devices for years, I got a Pixel 2 XL for the quick updates despite the missing features compared to the Galaxy S7/S8/S9, and so far I'm pretty happy with my choice and I'm dealing better than I thought I would with the lack of a microSD card reader, wireless charging and minijack audio port.
The way I see it, OnePlus phones are a lose-lose situation: they lack the quick Android updates the Pixel has AND they lack the features that make the Galaxy S7/S8/S9 such great phones (terrific display, IP68, wireless charging, great camera, SD card reader, etc.) so yeah, I'm not interested at all in the OnePlus 6.
For me the only dilemma I have these days is pretty simple: Do I go with the quick Android updates and great user experience +
decent hardware (Pixel) or do I go for all the hardware bells and whistles but a less enjoyable software experience (Galaxy/Note)?
I'm not saying the OnePlus 6 is a bad phone for others, but it's not a phone for me
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I am just curious if anyone here is considering the OnePlus 6?
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The day OnePlus supports Verizon is the day I will spend money on a phone of theirs. I am patiently waiting with money in hand.
Short ans no
Long ans still no
Cheers ?
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No... After using Samsung devices for years, I got a Pixel 2 XL for the quick updates despite the missing features compared to the Galaxy S7/S8/S9, and so far I'm pretty happy with my choice and I'm dealing better than I thought I would with the lack of a microSD card reader, wireless charging and minijack audio port.
The way I see it, OnePlus phones are a lose-lose situation: they lack the quick Android updates the Pixel has AND they lack the features that make the Galaxy S7/S8/S9 such great phones (terrific display, IP68, wireless charging, great camera, SD card reader, etc.) so yeah, I'm not interested at all in the OnePlus 6.
For me the only dilemma I have these days is pretty simple: Do I go with the quick Android updates and great user experience +
decent hardware (Pixel) or do I go for all the hardware bells and whistles but a less enjoyable software experience (Galaxy/Note)?
I'm not saying the OnePlus 6 is a bad phone for others, but it's not a phone for me
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I see your points but just a little devil's advocate here, your missing one of the best reasons to get a OnePlus. It's got the best performance for the money. Yes they've been climbing up in price every year but it's still ~$250-$300 less than comparable Pixel and Galaxy phones. Yet it's one of the fastest in everyday multitasking, great RAM management, and very good battery. Even if they have it rise up to $599 for the higher OnePlus 6 model, it's still a decent savings.
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Not even considering it. 2 reasons for me...the stupid a$$ notch and the camera is junk. And I say the camera is junk because I have no faith in these guys to get it right. And if they did...still have the dumb a$$ notch. No thx.
Phazonclash said:
No... After using Samsung devices for years, I got a Pixel 2 XL for the quick updates despite the missing features compared to the Galaxy S7/S8/S9, and so far I'm pretty happy with my choice and I'm dealing better than I thought I would with the lack of a microSD card reader, wireless charging and minijack audio port.
The way I see it, OnePlus phones are a lose-lose situation: they lack the quick Android updates the Pixel has AND they lack the features that make the Galaxy S7/S8/S9 such great phones (terrific display, IP68, wireless charging, great camera, SD card reader, etc.) so yeah, I'm not interested at all in the OnePlus 6.
For me the only dilemma I have these days is pretty simple: Do I go with the quick Android updates and great user experience +
decent hardware (Pixel) or do I go for all the hardware bells and whistles but a less enjoyable software experience (Galaxy/Note)?
I'm not saying the OnePlus 6 is a bad phone for others, but it's not a phone for me
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Have you even owned a OnePlus 5T? Doesn't sound like it. You are spreading misinformation. The main developers are former XDA/Custom Rom Devs who were hired to work for OnePlus. They have Beta releases which they freely communicate and offer instructions/support how to install and run. The last Beta 3 had full fling/swipe gestures which at the same time expanded the screen fully, not the bad fling Nav gestures that are on the custom Roms here which still leave the bottom part of the screen blank/Nav space present and don't expand the view/icons etc to the bottom to gain full use. That is fully functioning in the OnePlus 5T Beta 3 released that is rock solid overall with few bugs. The profile of the 5T phone/near frameless/size are all way ahead of the Pixel 2 XL. The AMOLED screen is much better on the 5T than the Pixel XL 2 in every way. To say the screen is good on this phone is ridiculous with all of the verified off angle blue tint and other issues that became a public fiasco for Google. Mind boggling why this phone looks and performs the way it does with Google in control of the process. The only thing they don't have is the camera/software on the OnePlus. They have some of the best Devs who came from XDA/Custom Rom worlds...hence why they were hired to work for them. Read up on those facts/history is you would like. Also, they have some of the good Dev support from XDA, only second I would say to HTC Dev. This new Pixel with Treble has caused a lot of issues, and soon everybody is going to be dealing with, even OnePlus and other manufacturers since they have no choice. So the future should get better for everybody.
Clean Android experience? Oxygen OS is already pretty stripped down. You can run Nova on it like I do with the Pixel, or AOSP or whatever, it is just as generic and they are open to the standard Google Android experience as anybody, with their own twist if you choose to run their launcher.
Memory/processor loaded up on the OnePlus 5T. No SDCard like a lot of phones today, but dual sim slots if you need it. It is a great performing phone, up there with the best for much less money. If they implement VZW band support and improve that camera, I'm ditching this Google Pixel XL 2 phone is a heartbeat. I personally was running the latest Beta 3 on my 5T with swipe gestures and Nova, unlocked, rooted with blu_sprk custom Kernel/TWRP version and it was a phenomenal performer and great phone. Since I don't take a lot of photos and use the camera that much...really not a big deal. I have a $3k SLR if I want to be serious about photography to use.
But to each his own. Only reason I even am using this Pixel is because there are very few phones on VZW which you can unlock the bootloader/root and maintain functionality to customize it. Only other phone you can buy to do this really is a V30+, and even then, not as good as the Pixel 2 XL.
Not in a million years. On contract in the UK you're basically paying top dollar for a sub par phone. Did they ever fix the upside down jelly displays or put a decent cam in them yet?
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Not even considering it. 2 reasons for me...the stupid a$$ notch and the camera is junk. And I say the camera is junk because I have no faith in these guys to get it right. And if they did...still have the dumb a$$ notch. No thx.
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I hate to say it but the notch is the new "no 3.5 mm headphone jack". I wouldn't be surprised if it becomes the majority rather than the minority in another year or two.
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EeZeEpEe said:
I hate to say it but the notch is the new "no 3.5 mm headphone jack". I wouldn't be surprised if it becomes the majority rather than the minority in another year or two.
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I'm forecasting the opposite. After not meeting sales projections for the year, they will drop this notch foolishness like a hot potato.
We each have a 50/50 shot at being correct. I hope I am, btw.
When ever a new phone comes out I get excited like many. My current phone is OP 8pro and is a great phone. But my previous phone was a Pixel 2Xl and I felt it was a great phone. The Pixel still had a better camara than the 8 Pro.
So now comes the Pixel 6 & 6 Pro. They look nice but the 6 pro is slightly bigger and heavier than my 8 Pro. I've searched a lot to see if the series has facial recognition. From what I've brought up I can't find if it has it not. At this point in a "flag ship" phone they should kick a... and have everything plus be a step ahead of anything that has come out with in 6 months.
Does the 6 series beat out my 8 pro, significantly? Should I think about a 9 pro?
Or stay put for another year, maybe wait the OP 10?
Thanks for ay input!
I'm trading my OnePlus 9 Pro in for the Pixel 6 Pro. I can assure you despite what you see in reviews the camera on the 9 Pro isn't quite top notch. Also with OnePlus, they are folding into parent company Oppo completely so my tenure with them has now concluded after having the 6T/7T Pro McLaren/8T/9 Pro.
One plus are basically becoming oppo and one reason I'm changing my oppo Reno 2 for a 6 Pro is that awful updates that oppo do. I've had one actual proper update come through on the phone in 2 years. I've had to mess about using VPN connections to connect to different countries to get any security updates from them. The one Android update they did release almost broke the phone. I'd never go back to them. I had a pixel 2xl previously, which I've still got, and it was flawless even when I had to use it while trying to fix the oppo. I'm looking forward to going back to a phone with regular updates and updates that actually work.
I know too well it's difficult to decide very often. The Pro is slightly heavier than my Note 10+, too - about the same dimensions, just slightly longer and narrower, IIRC, than the Note 10+.
I haven't used facial recognition yet, but maybe I would eventually if it became available. For me, the selling points for the 6 Pro were the 512 GB of storage and the pure Android that works as Google intended it to work - without Samsung's **** software that doesn't work very well even with Google's standard apps.
If you're happy with the software on your OP 8 Pro, I'd stick with it since it has the facial recognition you prefer. That said, the two previous responses are pretty convincing to get the 6 Pro.
If you're still itching for a new phone, though, then absolutely, go for the 6 Pro unless you want to stay smaller, then go for the non-Pro 6 unless you need the 512 GB storage model of the Pro.
I currently have the OP 8 Pro and while the P6 Pro may weigh a little more, the OP is just a hair taller, and they look to be the exact same width. I never found the camera on the OP to be very good. The modded Gcam app works better, imo. So, along with what I'm assuming is going to be a stellar camera, I'm also excited about the AI integration Google wants to bring with their tensor chip. For me, it was a no brainer. I've had the OP for two years and it's starting to show. I think the 6 Pro will be quite a step up.
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I'm trading my OnePlus 9 Pro in for the Pixel 6 Pro. I can assure you despite what you see in reviews the camera on the 9 Pro isn't quite top notch. Also with OnePlus, they are folding into parent company Oppo completely so my tenure with them has now concluded after having the 6T/7T Pro McLaren/8T/9 Pro.
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Seeing the reviews, the 6p is close to the iPhone 13 pro max' camera, if not better. However, the tensor chip seems to fall behind but Google did this on purpose and that was to extend battery life despite having a slower processor than their competitors
All of the above have pro's and con's....and price points!
Flagships ftw
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Seeing the reviews, the 6p is close to the iPhone 13 pro max' camera, if not better. However, the tensor chip seems to fall behind but Google did this on purpose and that was to extend battery life despite having a slower processor than their competitors
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Yes, and I am in agreeance on the 6 Pro camera. I was referencing the OnePlus 9 Pro since the OP mentioned it as a possible contender. The Tensor exceeds in the GPU category vs an 888 only slightly, and is also slightly behind in the CPU space vs the 888.
Man, all great inputs thanks!! I understand what some of you've said about the updates. When I had my 2 xl , it was cool that they'd get the updates first. As far as OP, going forward, that it will not be the same OP, that's sad and it's maybe time to "go back home" to a Pixel.
Here's my two cents;
I've been on Android since the HTC H1/Dream. Flashed the heck out of it and eventually got myself a DroidX. From there, I went all into the Nexus line. After that turned into Pixel, I stayed with pixel phones. I like to test phones so over the course of time, I had the OnePlus One (loved that phone). I still have my OnePlus 2, tried several phones from HTC LG; used a Samsung s10 for a good while and I still keep some of my favorite phones, they still all work and I still love them and try to keep them updated with custom AOSP roms; my Nexus 5 is still alive and well, the OnePlus X is still fantastic to hold, the Palm phone is an amazing form factor, the Essential PH-1 is incredible to this day (minus the **** cameras), preferring smaller phones, the Xperia XZ1 Compact is awesome, I just got rid of my old OnePlus 5t and both my brother and my best friend are deep into OnePlus since the One.
But I always end up coming back to a Pixel.
Like someone already said, the cameras are fabulous, but they are definitely not "the best", however, in my experience, they ARE the most consistently close to the best. At the time, the Samsung Galaxy s10 had, arguably, a better camera than the pixel of the era (Pixel 3 or Pixel 4, depending on the date, since pixels release late in the year) but it was never as consistent (with me). With the pixel, I always knew I could double tap the power button and take a shot in just a few seconds, and the picture would come out consistently great. People can get amazing shots with a OnePlus, but it requires more effort than the consistency of the pixel.
I don't really care all that much about picture quality, despite what it may seem, but I think it is a good reflection of essentially everything else. Nothing is really THE most important part of a phone for me except for "feel", and my golden standard is the Nexus 5. Perfect size. The Pixel 3 is also a great feeling device. Sure, RAM is important, but in this day and age, for most people, I'd say 6GB or more is good enough. Less than 128GB of storage is not worth getting at this point. Fast charging is cool, just like wireless charging, but a battery that'll live throughout the day is a necessity (this is one thing Pixels have NEVER been able to excel at, for example, hopefully the 6 changes that).
Then there's the OS, and what comes with it (like, updates). Samsung has gotten MUCH better. Their Touchwiz was absolutely atrocious. But OneUI is not bad. It seems like most manufacturers are going now for a more muted skin than they used to (MotoBlur was pretty bad, HTC Sense was pretty, but heavy, TouchWiz was awful, Miui was an iOS copy) so we're far better off now, but it's easy to misrepresent how awesome it feels to receive updates in time. Google announces a new OS, and you've got it. All the new goodies (mostly). While on any other manufacturer, you MIGHT get it in 3 months, you might not get it at all.
I've been on Android 12 since beta 3 a couple of months ago, on a Pixel 3.
I skipped the 5, sold my 4 and went down to the 3, which still works great. I am hoping the 6 is not huge. Needless to say, I preordered the 6. 256gb. I personally think they did a very compelling job. Sure, it's got last years 5g hardware. Sure, there's no "small" version. Sure, the SoC is not exactly better than what Qualcomm puts out. But I think by now, I've made the point that a phone is more than the sum of its parts. And it seems, imo, that Google found a pretty good balance, with a competitive and consistently great camera, a fantastic feeling phone, at a reasonable price.