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Mi Max 3 Gcam HDR+ vs Mi Max 2 Gcam HDR+?

Hi, was wondering if anyone could do a Mi max 2 Gcam HDR+ vs Mi max 3 Gcam HDR+ front and rear camera comparison? I would like to see the maximum potential of these two cameras to see how much it has improved and whether I should get this or just keep the Mi Max 2? Thank you!

FangXIII said:
Hi, was wondering if anyone could do a Mi max 2 Gcam HDR+ vs Mi max 3 Gcam HDR+ front and rear camera comparison? I would like to see the maximum potential of these two cameras to see how much it has improved and whether I should get this or just keep the Mi Max 2? Thank you!
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Only a few people may have both of these phones and even fewer probably use gcam on them so I would not be to optimistic about someone posting a comparison. I have used the gcam mod on many different devices from Xiaomi and the results has more or less been the same. I would guess that Max 2 and Max 3
produce very similair results when using the gcam mod. Photo quality from smartphones are like 90% software optimization and 10% camera hardware quality.

flipp0 said:
Photo quality from smartphones are like 90% software optimization and 10% camera hardware quality.
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Should be 90% hardware & 10% software, I think

dinhvtai said:
Should be 90% hardware & 10% software, I think
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Not with Google Cam.

dinhvtai said:
Should be 90% hardware & 10% software, I think
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Not at all. I owned a Redmi 5 Plus and Huawei Mate 10 at the same time. I prefered the low light photos from 5 Plus with gcam even tough Mate 10 has way better camera hardware.

flipp0 said:
Only a few people may have both of these phones and even fewer probably use gcam on them so I would not be to optimistic about someone posting a comparison. I have used the gcam mod on many different devices from Xiaomi and the results has more or less been the same. I would guess that Max 2 and Max 3
produce very similair results when using the gcam mod. Photo quality from smartphones are like 90% software optimization and 10% camera hardware quality.
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It's true, I guess it was worth a shot. I'm only asking because I checked the mi max 3 vs pixel 2 gcam comparison on XDA the other day, and IMO the mi max 3 was better than the pixel 2 in almost all the shots, I was shocked myself, so I wanted to know if it improved by a lot when compared to the mi max 2.

FangXIII said:
It's true, I guess it was worth a shot. I'm only asking because I checked the mi max 3 vs pixel 2 gcam comparison on XDA the other day, and IMO the mi max 3 was better than the pixel 2 in almost all the shots, I was shocked myself, so I wanted to know if it improved by a lot when compared to the mi max 2.
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In January I posted a comparison between Redmi 5 Plus and Mi 5S, using the ported gcam app on both phones.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/albums/72157692005458944
Even though Mi 5s has a "much better" image sensor, the photo quality was very close IMO. The reason? As I said earlier, the photo quality from smartphone cameras is mostly about software optimizations.
IMO all phones produce more or less the same results when using Gcam and HDR+. You may find minor differences here and there, but not any large differences.

I'm waiting Max 3 6G/128G. As I know Max 3 has all Samsung camera sensors which are more compatible with GCam so result will be better. HDR+ processing speed also improved on higher performance Max 3

I got both phone. And also the third one, the mi max prime, first of all! ^^.
All are rooted. But i'm in vacation. So... You need to wait. But I can allready said that mi max 3 cam is more more capable that cam of the mi max 1...

pystolero said:
I got both phone. And also the third one, the mi max prime, first of all! ^^.
All are rooted. But i'm in vacation. So... You need to wait. But I can allready said that mi max 3 cam is more more capable that cam of the mi max 1...
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Do you refer to the stock camera or the gcam mod with hdr+?

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Do you refer to the stock camera or the gcam mod with hdr+?
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The stock one. I have trouble with magisk module and i'm unable to install camera2api...

I have both Mi Max 2 and 3, both with GCam installed (but different versions)
The Max 3 has more/different GCams available (that don't crash), and thus has better quality

PianoMonkey said:
I have both Mi Max 2 and 3, both with GCam installed (but different versions)
The Max 3 has more/different GCams available (that don't crash), and thus has better quality
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Do I need root to install them on Mi Max 3?

AdamSanJuan said:
Do I need root to install them on Mi Max 3?
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To enable camera2 api yes, which let's you use functions like HDR

PianoMonkey said:
To enable camera3 api yes, which let's you use functions like HDR
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Is it worth it to just wait for the impending update that will enable the Camera2 Api?

AdamSanJuan said:
Is it worth it to just wait for the impending update that will enable the Camera2 Api?
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You should do yourself a favor and install a custom OS anyways, and have your phone rooted
One of the reasons I prefer Android is rooted apps that give me a more pleasant experience, like Adblock, custom keyboard add-ons, Xposed
It also takes 1 second to apply the Gcam patch if your phone is rooted

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You should do yourself a favor and install a custom OS anyways, and have your phone rooted
One of the reasons I prefer Android is rooted apps that give me a more pleasant experience, like Adblock, custom keyboard add-ons, Xposed
It also takes 1 second to apply the Gcam patch if your phone is rooted
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What roms offer a similar feature to Xiaomi's Second Space? I feel like I would lose more features when I use a custom rom.

AdamSanJuan said:
What roms offer a similar feature to Xiaomi's Second Space? I feel like I would lose more features when I use a custom rom.
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No, it is a unique feature of MIUI...

AdamSanJuan said:
What roms offer a similar feature to Xiaomi's Second Space? I feel like I would lose more features when I use a custom rom.
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MIUI is getting alot better these days with all those extra features too.
we pretty much only need a custom kernel to squeeze more juice / performance from it and that's it.

Hello Guys.. A few questions until my phone is bought:

I'm gonna hit myself in the balls and buy the Mi A2 Lite (I owned a Mi A1 phone but I broke it) and I want to check out this phone because why not? (Don't say it)
Did XIAOMI fixed their mistakes with the Mi A1? Missing EIS, broken updates etc.
People who already have the phone:
How is it? Good or bad for that price range? (I know I could get a better phone for the same amount of money so don't say it)
If anyone had a Mi A1 is anything better with Mi A2 Lite than with Mi A1?

SnoopDoggyStyleDogg said:
I'm gonna hit myself in the balls and buy the Mi A2 Lite (I owned a Mi A1 phone but I broke it) and I want to check out this phone because why not? (Don't say it)
Did XIAOMI fixed their mistakes with the Mi A1? Missing EIS, broken updates etc.
People who already have the phone:
How is it? Good or bad for that price range? (I know I could get a better phone for the same amount of money so don't say it)
If anyone had a Mi A1 is anything better with Mi A2 Lite than with Mi A1?
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Well, I don't know about the Mi A1, but I've been using the A2 Lite for a few days and everything looks great...if you can get the 64/4 for 180-200$ or the 32/3 for a bit less it's good enough.
You could get better phones, for me android one is the deal-breaker. I just like stock android, and hate OEM's skins.
Battery life is really good, camera is ok, no laggy UI and it's updated to the latest security patch (August 5th).
If Android One is what you're looking for then yes, this phone is good for it's price range.
It's not a camera phone, but it takes nice photos if the light allows it, and is not a gaming phone, but gets the job done on my day to day use (which consists in no social apps installed, only Boost for Reddit and Whatsapp)
For the most part is a smaller A1 with a bigger battery.
I come from an S8, and I don't miss a single thing. Maybe the USB-C, but I couldn't care less. I needed a phone with near to stock Android, good battery life and comfortable size. This is it. If you have other needs, you can get something else for sure!

SnoopDoggyStyleDogg said:
1- Did XIAOMI fixed their mistakes with the Mi A1? Missing EIS, broken updates etc.
2- How is it? Good or bad for that price range? (I know I could get a better phone for the same amount of money so don't say it)
3- If anyone had a Mi A1 is anything better with Mi A2 Lite than with Mi A1?
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1- I don't know. If I'm not wrong, no EIS by default, but with GCam I got some nice video stabilization compared to stock camera.
Only two OTA updates until now, both installed without problems, and they both come regularly in the second half of the month.
2- As you said, you can get better phones for the same money. The main reason I bought this phone is the 72 mm width, that you won't find at this price with all the features of Mi A2 Lite.
3- I don't have Mi A1 but the main differences with A2 Lite are the dimensions (A1 bigger than A2 Lite), the battery (3000 mAh on A1 vs 4000 mAh on A2 Lite) and the screen (regular 16:9 A1 vs 18:9 with notch on A2 Lite).

SnoopDoggyStyleDogg said:
Did XIAOMI fixed their mistakes with the Mi A1? Missing EIS, broken updates etc.
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Too early to tell with the software but it does come with Treble so that is a bonus, It does see like EIS is included in the video and seems to work.
SnoopDoggyStyleDogg said:
How is it? Good or bad for that price range? (I know I could get a better phone for the same amount of money so don't say it)
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Coming from a OnePlus 5, I wanted something smaller and this was one of the few devices under ~72mm. The 625 is sufficient for everything I do (Mostly Calls, Texting, Youtube & Social Media) (No Games). Camera is acceptable, not great not unusable. 4000mAh is just an awesome bonus. Phone is nice and loud. The only other device that caught my eye is the Nokia 6.1 Plus but I'm skeptical because the camera might be worse, isn't widely available and audio quality is questionable.
BubuXP said:
2- As you said, you can get better phones for the same money. The main reason I bought this phone is the 72 mm width, that you won't find at this price with all the features of Mi A2 Lite.
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:highfive:

iLovPieNCake said:
Too early to tell with the software but it does come with Treble so that is a bonus, It does see like EIS is included in the video and seems to work.
Coming from a OnePlus 5, I wanted something smaller and this was one of the few devices under ~72mm. The 625 is sufficient for everything I do (Mostly Calls, Texting, Youtube & Social Media) (No Games). Camera is acceptable, not great not unusable. 4000mAh is just an awesome bonus. Phone is nice and loud. The only other device that caught my eye is the Nokia 6.1 Plus but I'm skeptical because the camera might be worse, isn't widely available and audio quality is questionable.
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Phone still kind of big prefer it was a bit narrow and shorter.

Yeah same here but there aren't many options.

I've just ordered the Lite from Amazon. I've had an A1 for 2 days, but it seems broken so is going back. Main reasons for not going full A2 are the battery, I have a million micro USB cables, and the size. I don't need a top end phone, so for £155 and Google One, the lite is a total bargain.

Mate 10 pro vs lg g7 thinq

hi guys!i have mate 10 pro and love it so far!!Does it worth to switch to lg g7?How is the camera?Its equally good?

It's recommended to switch from any phone to LG G7 or any LG flagship!

johnnyman25 said:
hi guys!i have mate 10 pro and love it so far!!Does it worth to switch to lg g7?How is the camera?Its equally good?
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Mate..Don't even think of switching to LG from mate 10 pro..Mate 10 pro is superb both in terms of camera and battery...
Also LG's UI is not even a match for Huawei's feature rich EMUI. If you want timely updates for your phone ..don't ever switch to a LG phone. Huawei is far better in terms of updates. I'm still getting monthly security updates on my Honor 8.

Huawei lags behind on Bluetooth though, if listening to music with high SQ is important LG is a clear upgrade. Otherwise somewhat similar devices.

johnnyman25 said:
hi guys!i have mate 10 pro and love it so far!!Does it worth to switch to lg g7?How is the camera?Its equally good?
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Yeah, it's totally worth switching form Huawei. LG is far more solid brand. Camera can shoot video in actual formats, even in UHD HEVC with 3rd party apps.

But how is the battery and camera compared to mate?
Mate the 10 pro be with you

johnnyman25 said:
But how is the battery and camera compared to mate?
Mate the 10 pro be with you
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IMO ..Mate 10 pro is superior in terms of camera and battery...Mate 10 pro rules for battery endurance among the flagships...Camera only differentiation is the wide angle on g7. But Lecia branded camera is great as well..

Maverick Honor said:
IMO ..Mate 10 pro is superior in terms of camera and battery...Mate 10 pro rules for battery endurance among the flagships...Camera only differentiation is the wide angle on g7. But Lecia branded camera is great as well..
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Based on what personal experience? I get 4-5+ sot with the lgg7. The battery on the g7 is pretty good imo. Also, isn't the mate 10 pro lacking an SD card slot? That alone is s deal breaker. It also lacks a 3.5 Jack.

Yes, both phones ecxel in different areas. Huawei wins on battery and camera. LG wins on sound quality, better Bluetooth, more powerful cpu/GPU, better for gaming, more nice form factor and lighter. My taste leans towards best SQ available, so LG wins for me. And yes, sdcard is great to have too.

Thank you all. Also how is screen compared to amoled? Are blacks good enough?
Also what about updates?
Which security patch it has now?
Android pie in horizon?
Mate the 10 pro be with you

johnnyman25 said:
Thank you all. Also how is screen compared to amoled? Are blacks good enough?
Also what about updates?
Which security patch it has now?
Android pie in horizon?
Mate the 10 pro be with you
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Black is good enough but there is no way you can expect it to be as good as oled screen. Its somehow the best you can expect from an lcd. The brightness is also brightest i've ever seen on any phone.
Using LG, dont expect any fast update. Developments are bloody slow compared to other flagships.

johnnyman25 said:
Thank you all. Also how is screen compared to amoled? Are blacks good enough?
Also what about updates?
Which security patch it has now?
Android pie in horizon?
Mate the 10 pro be with you
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I'm actually kind of regreting getting the LG because of the blacks. I only notices it after my wife got the p20 pro. Because of the RGBW pixels the blacks are really washed out. I don't recommend it if you watch alot of video on the phone. Can't wait for next month's phone to arrive so I can switch to an oled phone. Probably gonna pick the mate 20 pro.
I only recomment this phone if you like one hand use.
That reminds, because the phone is so slim, it's 19.5x9 (or whatever), when you watch a video in full screen and you pinch out to fill the screen the video cuts alot more than an 18x9 phone (like a p20 pro or, I'm guessing, mate 10 pro as well).
Save your money and maybe get one of the phones that will come out next month. The oneplus 6t will the around the price of the G7 and I'm betting it will blow it out of the water.

xtrocata said:
I'm actually kind of regreting getting the LG because of the blacks. I only notices it after my wife got the p20 pro. Because of the RGBW pixels the blacks are really washed out. I don't recommend it if you watch alot of video on the phone. Can't wait for next month's phone to arrive so I can switch to an oled phone. Probably gonna pick the mate 20 pro.
I only recomment this phone if you like one hand use.
That reminds, because the phone is so slim, it's 19.5x9 (or whatever), when you watch a video in full screen and you pinch out to fill the screen the video cuts alot more than an 18x9 phone (like a p20 pro or, I'm guessing, mate 10 pro as well).
Save your money and maybe get one of the phones that will come out next month. The oneplus 6t will the around the price of the G7 and I'm betting it will blow it out of the water.
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Good morning my friend. Are the black rly so bad especially during night?
Another thing pls. Which security patch the phone has? What about 4k 60 fps?
Mate the 10 pro be with you

johnnyman25 said:
Good morning my friend. Are the black rly so bad especially during night?
Another thing pls. Which security patch the phone has? What about 4k 60 fps?
Mate the 10 pro be with you
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Compared to the huawei p20, yes.
I'm seeing here that the last update was on August 10.
4k 60 fps recording or playing?

xtrocata said:
Compared to the huawei p20, yes.
I'm seeing here that the last update was on August 10.
4k 60 fps recording or playing?
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4k 60 fps recording my friend
So it has August security patch? Any slow Motion features?
Thx for answering!
Mate the 10 pro be with you

johnnyman25 said:
4k 60 fps recording my friend
So it has August security patch? Any slow Motion features?
Thx for answering!
Mate the 10 pro be with you
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Yeah, then it does have 4k 60 fps recording. And slow motion

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Yeah, then it does have 4k 60 fps recording. And slow motion
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What fps and resolution in slow motion? Pls make one comparison between p20 pro and the g7.
Mate the 10 pro be with you

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What fps and resolution in slow motion? Pls make one comparison between p20 pro and the g7.
Mate the 10 pro be with you
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I don't know the resolution. It doesn't specify.
But the p20's slow motion seemed more fluid, if that makes sense.

Gcam for S20 Ultra

Any news from porting Gcam to S20 ultra? Thanks!

Would also like to know since the camara atm on this phone is trash!!

Check out: https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/android/google-camera/

larryk said:
Check out: https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/android/google-camera/
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Thanks but none there yet for this phone at least at 108Mpx mode

TF1920 said:
Thanks but none there yet for this phone at least at 108Mpx mode
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That's true I also wasn't able to find anything.

This is a similar cam forum https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-note-10/themes/gcam-t4005605 but still no 108Mpx Gcam

TF1920 said:
Any news from porting Gcam to S20 ultra? Thanks!
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Doesn`t the normal SD chipset work for everyone not on the exynos chip?
Holding my fingers crossed for a Exynos port of the Gcam for the Ultra. Even with the camera update it seriously smears the texture on photos and have had some horrible portrait photos as a result.
Most annoying part is that if you use the pro mode you get excellent results without any smeared skin tones but using the main camera set on auto without bixby scene detection and 12mp binned photos it sure looks like **** most of the time.
I think Samsung REALLY needs to improve a lot on the camera or it will be the biggest camera failure in the last 10 years....
So unless you mainly post to instagram and actually want to print pictures I suggest you use the 108mp setting and give it a quick sharpening in snapseed (or lightroom for some much needed defringing and sharpening)
So I´m holding out hope for a Gcam port for us stuck with the Exynos chipset that seems to produce slightly worse then the Snapdragon powered Ultra.
Other then that, I love the S20 Ultra and a worthy upgrade from my old S8+

N900_Maemo_user said:
Most annoying part is that if you use the pro mode you get excellent results without any smeared skin tones but using the main camera set on auto without bixby scene detection and 12mp binned photos it sure looks like **** most of the time.
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So why do you use auto?

Waiting for this as well

dazed1 said:
So why do you use auto?
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Obviously because you get no HDR while in Pro mode...

costindaemon said:
Obviously because you get no HDR while in Pro mode...
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The need for HDR in bright daylight is almost non exsistent.

I cant understand. I have oneplus 6.... crapy photie... I gave up and bought S20 Ultra... even crappier photos..... what is going on?????
With gcam one plus 6 photos almost looks great...
Should I sell S20 and buy Xiaom 10?
Hardware in S20 should be much better than in mi 10... but looks like software is crap??
Thank you for suggestions

Beso said:
I cant understand. I have oneplus 6.... crapy photie... I gave up and bought S20 Ultra... even crappier photos..... what is going on?????
With gcam one plus 6 photos almost looks great...
Should I sell S20 and buy Xiaom 10?
Hardware in S20 should be much better than in mi 10... but looks like software is crap??
Thank you for suggestions
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probably cause you have exynos.

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probably cause you have exynos.
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What do you suggest?

if you can get snapdragon go for s20 if not just go for oppo xfinder x2 or mi 10 pro if camera is important for you, if you want the best camera go for p40 check dxomark.com for camera rankings although p40 have no google services but can be installed in less than 10 minutes

So for EU (Exynos) version of S20 Ultra there is no hope?

Working GCAM6.1 on exynos S20 ULTRA
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So for EU (Exynos) version of S20 Ultra there is no hope?
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Hi,
i found on with everithing working , included Portrait mode Front and Back

Can you post it?

Aezhyr said:
Can you post it?
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I use ZGCAM vers.917 on my EXYNOS S20 Ultra (XEF) :
-Night mode front and back
-PhotoBooth
-Photo Sphère (bugs sometimes)
-Slow Motion
-Zoom
-Video
-Google Lens
-Portrait (back and Front)
-Panorama
pictures looks better with stock in most of the cases (Night shoots) but with the correct settings i think GCAM will be much better than stock.
with the virus it's hard for me to spend a lot time outside to find the best set up but i think it's a good begining.
I can't share my pictures or setting for the moment( need 10 usefull posts before..)
let me know if you need more details

It is working!!
First app that has worked for me until now
Thank you very much
Do you know the best settings to use this cam on auto? Never worked with Gcam before
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Actually, when I try night mode it shuts down the camera

Question Should I buy this phone for the camera or is there a better alternative at that price?

Should I buy this phone for the camera or is there a better alternative at that price?
I am not a hardcore gamer but performance is also a factor for me. TIA.

Meh, I'd rather go for a Xiaomi Mi 10 Lite 5G. It's cheaper as well.

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Meh, I'd rather go for a Xiaomi Mi 10 Lite 5G. It's cheaper as well.
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Mi 11 lite 5g cost 20€ more than poco f3. Mi 11 lite 5g is a good phone but I'm really tight on budget.

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Mi 11 lite 5g cost 20€ more than poco f3. Mi 11 lite 5g is a good phone but I'm really tight on budget.
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Mi 10 lite 5G is half the price and has a 48MP camera as well. It is a good phone too.

Lala🇧🇩 said:
Should I buy this phone for the camera or is there a better alternative at that price?
I am not a hardcore gamer but performance is also a factor for me. TIA.
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I have had the Mi 10 Lite 5G. A good phone but Poco F3 will have much better support for Gcam. Would definitely go for F3 over Mi 10 Lite.

Mi phones are a hit or miss. But GCam can solve those problems

This is not a camera phone, your best bet for a camera phone with performance is the Samsung S20 FE.
Otherwise you're asking for too much at this price range, you need to spend on a flagship phone like the Mi 11 if you want all the bells and whistles.
You either get a good camera in the Redmi Note 10 Pro but average performance or your get the Poco F3 which has the performance but just average camera at this budget oriented price range.

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Mi 10 lite 5G is half the price and has a 48MP camera as well. It is a good phone too.
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I thought you were talking about mi 11 lite 5g

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I thought you were talking about mi 11 lite 5g
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Nono, Mi 10 Lite 5G. Look up reviews on the phone. Read about it. Look at the prices.
I am pretty sure it's precisely what you need. Fast CPU, good camera, low price.
Though, the choice is yours. Only you know what suits you.

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Verbato said:
Nono, Mi 10 Lite 5G. Look up reviews on the phone. Read about it. Look at the prices.
I am pretty sure it's precisely what you need. Fast CPU, good camera, low price.
Though, the choice is yours. Only you know what suits you.
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I don't care about 5g but i would love to have high refresh rate amoled screen.
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Verbato said:
Nono, Mi 10 Lite 5G. Look up reviews on the phone. Read about it. Look at the prices.
I am pretty sure it's precisely what you need. Fast CPU, good camera, low price.
Though, the choice is yours. Only you know what suits you.
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I had this phone last year. The camera is nothing special. F3 is clearly the better buy. Especially when combined with gcam.

flipp0 said:
I had this phone last year. The camera is nothing special. F3 is clearly the better buy. Especially when combined with gcam.
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The camera is good. I've installed ArrowOS on it with gcam. Using it as a second phone.
How ever, it is a budget phone. It has a low price for a reason. At the same time, for that price, the camera is good.
The Poco F3 costs about twice as much as the Mi 10 Lite 5G.
At that price you are better off buying a used Xiaomi Black Shark 3. Superior camera, superior speed cpu/gpu, superior most of everything.

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The camera is good. I've installed ArrowOS on it with gcam. Using it as a second phone.
How ever, it is a budget phone. It has a low price for a reason. At the same time, for that price, the camera is good.
The Poco F3 costs about twice as much as the Mi 10 Lite 5G.
At that price you are better off buying a used Xiaomi Black Shark 3. Superior camera, superior speed cpu/gpu, superior most of everything.
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But where are you able to buy a Mi 10 Lite 5G for half the price of F3? In that case you are most likley talking about a second hand unit.
Xiaomi Black Shark 3 is a ugly gaming phone. I you are looking for second hand unit in that price range you can just as well buy a Mi 10 or Mi 10T Pro instead. Much better camera than BS3.

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But where are you able to buy a Mi 10 Lite 5G for half the price of F3?
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Chyna.
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In that case you are most likley talking about a second hand unit.
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I would have said so if it was.
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Xiaomi Black Shark 3 is a ugly gaming phone.
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Who cares? I don't see OP stating, "it must be pretty, I love pretty phones <3" in their post.
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I you are looking for second hand unit in that price range you can just as well buy a Mi 10 or Mi 10T Pro instead.
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Sure, you could.
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Much better camera than BS3.
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Ah, but not better screen or CPU. And no, not much better. Slightly better.
I told OP to research on their own. Because there will be people here trying to tell, "I'm the know it all, I know best, do as I say, because what all others say is just poop, I know best".
The only person who knows what phone suits OP is OP. This is why I told OP to do their own research.

Verbato said:
Chyna.
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Please provide a link. Did not find this shop.

flipp0 said:
Please provide a link. Did not find this shop.
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Why?

Verbato said:
Why?
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To prove your statement. Why would anyone belive that you can a buy a Mi 10 Lite 5G for half the price of Poco F3 without a link to the shop?

flipp0 said:
To prove your statement. Why would anyone belive that you can a buy a Mi 10 Lite 5G for half the price of Poco F3 without a link to the shop?
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There's no "we", there's just you. You can't find it.
You are here just to argue, not to help. I don't care.

Verbato said:
There's no "we", there's just you. You can't find it.
You are here just to argue, not to help. I don't care.
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How can it be helpful to claim that Mi 10 Lite costs half the price of F3 but not provide a link? I tought you ment that OP could actually buy the phone for this price. If not, why would you bring it up.