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Hi All,
I like(d) my ARC, especially for gaming. The problem is, however, that many games (amazing spiderman, the dark knight rises, death trigger..) randomly crash during gameplay. Firstly I thought it is a RAM problem, but now I think it is something else because when the game crashes, often the launcher is still in memory and services like Facebook or Maps or Dropbox have been running for very long time. In other words, if it is a RAM problem, shouldn't these services and processes be killed before the memory reaches critical state and the app crashes? I have about 150MB free ram when starting the game, I doubt the whole game is going to eat it all up (unless android is for some stupid reason trying to keep 100 MB or so constantly free..)
So if it is not a RAM problem, what else might be causing these issues? Lack of VRAM? Are you guys facing the same crashes? If not, what ROM are you using? (I wanna keep ICS, so pls. don't tell me "go back to GB" )
Thanks for your opinions!
V6 Supercharger.
The only problem - supercharging makes the phone slower and everything lags more. Heavier applications (like Chrome or maps) cause the whole phone to freeze even for 5 seconds.
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Hey all!
Somewhat new to the custom ROM and kernel scene. I'm currently running Lupus Stock GB/ICS Kernel v3, 480p and Krisdee's Hybrid ROM v1.0. My phone runs smoothly, even better than it did with the stock ROM.
However, I noticed if I leave the phone on overnight while charging, in the morning the RAM will almost be completely used up, causing several processes to close and try and re-open itself. I only found out what was going on when apps I tried to open end up closing themselves after a few seconds.
I can clear up the RAM by restarting the phone, but I'm actually not used to having to turn it off at all. Would there be a way to have it use better memory management and keep it at ~200 MB free while idling?
Your ram problem may be the cause of an application or widget having memory leaks. Try removing/uninstallng any useless applications and widgets that you may have constantly running in the background. Remove them one by one to see if you could find the application causing the problem.
Live wallpapers also tend to take up ram, so if possible disable them. You could also use a launcher which utilizes less ram such as "lightning launcher" or "zeam launcher".
NXT light rom is also a good candidate for more better ram.
And take a look at Esus task manager. Very useful in freeing up ram either manually or automatically.
This is normal in linux
I think adrenalin ( not the one in xplay xda) tweak can solve this
Try rebooting the phone
|SavageD| said:
Your ram problem may be the cause of an application or widget having memory leaks. Try removing/uninstallng any useless applications and widgets that you may have constantly running in the background. Remove them one by one to see if you could find the application causing the problem.
Live wallpapers also tend to take up ram, so if possible disable them. You could also use a launcher which utilizes less ram such as "lightning launcher" or "zeam launcher".
NXT light rom is also a good candidate for more better ram.
And take a look at Esus task manager. Very useful in freeing up ram either manually or automatically.
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It's a fairly fresh build, the only apps I have extra are Skype, Candy Crush Saga, ES File Explorer and Freedom. Skype normally isn't running.
pedyvirus said:
This is normal in linux
I think adrenalin ( not the one in xplay xda) tweak can solve this
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I'll take a look at that.
w4r3zh4ck said:
Try rebooting the phone
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This is my current solution, however, it tends to happen again as time goes on and I essentially need to reboot at least once a day.
flamefury said:
It's a fairly fresh build, the only apps I have extra are Skype, Candy Crush Saga, ES File Explorer and Freedom. Skype normally isn't running.
I'll take a look at that.
This is my current solution, however, it tends to happen again as time goes on and I essentially need to reboot at least once a day.
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Well right now the best thing i could advise you to do is download an application that shows or records background process. The default app for showing processes on the XP sucks. It doesn't show all processes that are running. Chances are you may have thought that you closed off skype, but it still runs in the background. You really show take a look at a task manager like "Esus Task Manager" to determine what is eating your ram.
Hi there
I have a Galaxy nexus on android 4.3 and running 3d games have lots of lag. For example, the game with the most amount of lag is Modern Combat 4 with the meltdown update. Is there a way to improve the gpu processor power on the phone so that itwouldboost the framerate? Its always about 5-15 fps and im so annoyed. If there is a solution, could you let me know? My galaxy nexus is not rooted.
Does it plays smoothly then, for no reason, it gets laggy for some seconds, then come back to play everything smoothly again, then repeats? Or it just keeps being laggy at all times?
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Does it plays smoothly then, for no reason, it gets laggy for some seconds, then come back to play everything smoothly again, then repeats? Or it just keeps being laggy at all times?
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It does exactly that, it plays smooth for 5 seconds then ridiculous lag for 10 seconds then repeats like a loop.
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speedsolve said:
It does exactly that, it plays smooth for 5 seconds then ridiculous lag for 10 seconds then repeats like a loop.
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What I'm gonna tell you now may be related to what what is happening with your device or not. It was my problem, so if it's not this I don't know what can be happening.
First, the galaxy nexus can downvote it's processors when it's too hot, although it's probably not that, just keep that in mind.
Anyway, go to settings - apps then "running apps" and check the used and free ram. If you have high RAM usage (like, 600 mbs being used) than this is probably the problem. While you're in the game, your gnexus will try to clean RAM for it, but since your gnexus is already out of RAM, it will force close background app's and services, but since those are required to run all the time, all that's going to happen is that they will keep being restarted, causing lag in the apps that are running.
To check if this is the problem, just check how much free ram you have free. If it's too low, open a game (even temple run 2 or sub way surfers will do), then when the game starts, go back to settings-app-running apps and check for things restarting.
If this is the problem, then you need to see what is the apps that are consuming all your RAM (although it can be android itself, just keep reading).
Just check what apps are in the running part of the "running apps". If you have a lot of apps running, then you can try freezing some of them or unnistalling the ones that consume more RAM. BUT! it may be that there's just too much RAM being consumed even though you have few apps running, in this case, the problem is android itself.
I don't know if this happens to android 4.3 itself, the gnexus's version of it or if it's some app causing it, but there's a memory leak that will eventually consume all your RAM. I'll use my case as an exemple: I have some common apps running on background (facebook, messenger, whatsapp, airdroid, 3d watchdog). If everything is normal, my "used RAM" keeps aroung 430mb~. Leaving almost 200mb~ free for apps to use. But after some days using my phone, the used ram will grow to 500, then 550, then 600mb, eventually to 630mbs.
Check if this is happening to you. To check, simply reboot your device, then when it boots, check how your RAM is being used.
If it was normal before the reboot (around 500mb, probably even less) and stay this way after the reboot, then your problem is another one, then I can't help you.
If your RAM was high and after the reboot it's still high, check your running apps.
If it's high but after the reboot it's back to normal, then you just "solved" your problem. Just keep rebooting daily.
If this was your problem, then enjoy your phone. If it's not, you can try checking some other things like the I/O speed (which was solved in android 4.3. Check this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1971852&highlight=trim ).
ygorvaz said:
What I'm gonna tell you now may be related to what what is happening with your device or not. It was my problem, so if it's not this I don't know what can be happening.
First, the galaxy nexus can downvote it's processors when it's too hot, although it's probably not that, just keep that in mind.
Anyway, go to settings - apps then "running apps" and check the used and free ram. If you have high RAM usage (like, 600 mbs being used) than this is probably the problem. While you're in the game, your gnexus will try to clean RAM for it, but since your gnexus is already out of RAM, it will force close background app's and services, but since those are required to run all the time, all that's going to happen is that they will keep being restarted, causing lag in the apps that are running.
To check if this is the problem, just check how much free ram you have free. If it's too low, open a game (even temple run 2 or sub way surfers will do), then when the game starts, go back to settings-app-running apps and check for things restarting.
If this is the problem, then you need to see what is the apps that are consuming all your RAM (although it can be android itself, just keep reading).
Just check what apps are in the running part of the "running apps". If you have a lot of apps running, then you can try freezing some of them or unnistalling the ones that consume more RAM. BUT! it may be that there's just too much RAM being consumed even though you have few apps running, in this case, the problem is android itself.
I don't know if this happens to android 4.3 itself, the gnexus's version of it or if it's some app causing it, but there's a memory leak that will eventually consume all your RAM. I'll use my case as an exemple: I have some common apps running on background (facebook, messenger, whatsapp, airdroid, 3d watchdog). If everything is normal, my "used RAM" keeps aroung 430mb~. Leaving almost 200mb~ free for apps to use. But after some days using my phone, the used ram will grow to 500, then 550, then 600mb, eventually to 630mbs.
Check if this is happening to you. To check, simply reboot your device, then when it boots, check how your RAM is being used.
If it was normal before the reboot (around 500mb, probably even less) and stay this way after the reboot, then your problem is another one, then I can't help you.
If your RAM was high and after the reboot it's still high, check your running apps.
If it's high but after the reboot it's back to normal, then you just "solved" your problem. Just keep rebooting daily.
If this was your problem, then enjoy your phone. If it's not, you can try checking some other things like the I/O speed (which was solved in android 4.3. Check this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1971852&highlight=trim ).
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When I checked, I had about 300-400 megabytes of ram being used. Thank you for the info and the effort though. It has a dual core processor, it should be able to run well.
I figuare out the problem of the game lag, the CPU temperature limt!
If you're using custom kernel, set the limit to 74, and u will find out it smoothly on game play, plus if you of the gpu to 384, its almost lag free, but frame drop is also here coz the gpu power.
Does this work on stock kernel also? Last time i had custom kernel, lots of screen problems.
speedsolve said:
Does this work on stock kernel also? Last time i had custom kernel, lots of screen problems.
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Nope, flash leankernel, wipe cacje and dalvik cache, install trickster mod, and adjust the settings.
Quite less you can do with stock kernel.
ok i have lean kernel but where do i change the setting in the franco kernel app
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ok i have lean kernel but where do i change the setting in the franco kernel app
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You need to use trickster mod not Franco app. The Franco app is optimized for the Franco kernel.
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OK I installed trickster but every time I try to change a setting, after a reboot, it goes back to stock. What now
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You need to use trickster mod not Franco app. The Franco app is optimized for the Franco kernel.
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FKU also incorporates LeanKernel Updater so why isn't it optimized
And just to add that the above trick of disabling thermal throttling works nicely for me. I always wondered about why playing PPSSPP produces random lag - setting the governor to "performance" won't help a bit - and FKU saved my ass!
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Hi all,
Anyone experience lag in the dialer when switching tabs (usually the first time changing from Dial tab to Call Log/Contacts) ?
Try This!!!
liamR said:
Hi all,
Anyone experience lag in the dialer when switching tabs (usually the first time changing from Dial tab to Call Log/Contacts) ?
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There may be background running apps causing this lag. Clear recent apps try.. U can also reboot the device to close unnecessary background running apps...
Yes absolutely right.
Its the only place where m phone lags by switching the tabs.
there are basically 2 places where you can force the phone to either end processes associated with apps when the app is closed or limit running background processes. Have you used either of those options? If so, this is what is likely causing the lag. If not....? So if you used the developer options menu to limit background then go ahead and put it back to default. If you used the other way to limit processes of specific apps then unchecked the couple that have to do with the dialer and let those run free.
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There may be background running apps causing this lag. Clear recent apps try.. U can also reboot the device to close unnecessary background running apps...
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Clearing recent app will not solve the problem, android system know how to do it the best way.
I asked if anyone else having this problem because I did some major system customization and I can't remember if this problem was before my changes. I don't have time to debug it.
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Clearing recent app will not solve the problem, android system know how to do it the best way.
I asked if anyone else having this problem because I did some major system customization and I can't remember if this problem was before my changes. I don't have time to debug it.
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I know the android memory management. if it needs memory for foreground apps it frees up some memory by killing the background process. The lag is mostly because of the busy processor. sometimes apps like whatsapp and viber who have push notifications work in background as demons. This processes may use up the clock cycles and henceforth contribute to the lag while switching tabs etc. A higher priority process such as games will force the system to give up most of the CPU time to the game app and hence they DO NOT LAG. Sometimes they may lag when u receive a text message in background. This is because the SMS and calls have higher priority. Killing the background apps which may be using up CPU cycles will not only give a lag free operation but also a good battery life. that is why you swipe up the apps from the recent apps tray.
I'm not talking about memory because i know how android handles the memory..
Yup, that LG dialer is one idiotic piece of software that I hate about this phone. The stock ROM otherwise is surprisingly fluid. But dialer................less I say the better. The backspace delay is intolerable.
I dont know if this is issue with completely stock system or not as frankly i never ran this phone stock. I am running V4 stock based ROM. This issue was not there on any CM based ROMs. Specific to stock based rom.
Has anyone else noticed some slowdowns on their pixel 2 XL? I had noticed slow animations on Android Oreo, I thought that maybe they would be fixed in the Pie update, but i am still noticing slow downs every so often.
For me, Pie has actually been the smoothest compared to DP2 though DP5. There's a similar thread already here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-2-xl/how-to/phone-sluggish-time-t3826729
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Has anyone else noticed some slowdowns on their pixel 2 XL? I had noticed slow animations on Android Oreo, I thought that maybe they would be fixed in the Pie update, but i am still noticing slow downs every so often.
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I've been getting stutters too. Occasionally it will just catch up and lag.
Haven't noticed any stuttering, just seems smooth for my usage...
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Has anyone else noticed some slowdowns on their pixel 2 XL? I had noticed slow animations on Android Oreo, I thought that maybe they would be fixed in the Pie update, but i am still noticing slow downs every so often.
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There's micro stutters here and there but they're insignificant, I wouldn't call them slowdowns. Google really needs to up their ram for the next phone, the 4gb is starting to show it's limitations. Compared to the iPhone , the pixel doesn't seem very smooth with it's animations.
Actually my test shows after couple hours usage, the free RAM of Android P will drop around 600MB.
At this stage, you will start getting stutter or even no response from apps due to system try to release free RAM.
Right after boot up, Andrpod P will have around 1300MB free RAM, however after couple hours use (depends on how heavy you use your phone), the free RAM will go down to around 500MB and you will notice stutter if you launch some App which requires RAM.
You can verify this by launch Google Map, Google Photo and Street View together... or you could launch Camera App then take some panorama after a day's use. When fresh out of reboot, Pixel 2 XL has no trouble running those App together or handling multiple Panoramas but will run into stutter or even kill your Launcher for free RAM after couple hours useage...
I checked the OOM setting on "empty app" and it's defaulted at 318MB. I suggest raise it to 512MB to get better, longer stutter free operation (YMMV). With default OOM setting when I launch camera app, sometimes Nova Launcher will be killed for free RAM. However after modifing the empty app OOM limit to 512MB I seldom got any kill rampage when launching camera app.
For me, Android P is smooth when free RAM is over 900MB and you will definitely get into stutter when free RAM under 600MB. And it's unavoidable to went to this low ram stage after some use...
If you don't have above issue then lucky you, or you just didn't use your phone heavy enough as Google think you should... I don't want to argue how good Android can manage RAM since for me, kill my Launcher to make RAM for Camera is not a solution... Which happened to me quite often. I use Greenify to block most background app and do check what runs behind the scene quite regularly and kill those unwanted... Still, Android P will go to 600MB free RAM unless I modify OOM... (It's now aound 800MB when Nova Launcher is foreground App)
You can use this app for monitoring your free RAM.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=info.kfsoft.android.MemoryIndicatorPro
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Actually my test shows after couple hours usage, the free RAM of Android P will drop around 600MB.
At this stage, you will start getting stutter or even no response from apps due to system try to release free RAM.
Right after boot up, Andrpod P will have around 1300MB free RAM, however after couple hours use (depends on how heavy you use your phone), the free RAM will go down to around 500MB and you will notice stutter if you launch some App which requires RAM.
You can verify this by launch Google Map, Google Photo and Street View together... or you could launch Camera App then take some panorama after a day's use. When fresh out of reboot, Pixel 2 XL has no trouble running those App together or handling multiple Panoramas but will run into stutter or even kill your Launcher for free RAM after couple hours useage...
I checked the OOM setting on "empty app" and it's defaulted at 318MB. I suggest raise it to 512MB to get better, longer stutter free operation (YMMV). With default OOM setting when I launch camera app, sometimes Nova Launcher will be killed for free RAM. However after modifing the empty app OOM limit to 512MB I seldom got any kill rampage when launching camera app.
For me, Android P is smooth when free RAM is over 900MB and you will definitely get into stutter when free RAM under 600MB. And it's unavoidable to went to this low ram stage after some use...
If you don't have above issue then lucky you, or you just didn't use your phone heavy enough as Google think you should... I don't want to argue how good Android can manage RAM since for me, kill my Launcher to make RAM for Camera is not a solution... Which happened to me quite often. I use Greenify to block most background app and do check what runs behind the scene quite regularly and kill those unwanted... Still, Android P will go to 600MB free RAM unless I modify OOM... (It's now aound 800MB when Nova Launcher is foreground App)
You can use this app for monitoring your free RAM.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=info.kfsoft.android.MemoryIndicatorPro
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This is only valid for people who buy the phones direct from Google and are able to root. For those from Verizon, you are out of luck, as there's no way to mess with memory settings.
This post is one reason in won't buy from Verizon.
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