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Hello all.
Just wondering if anyone has this and wouldnt mind putting up their opionion on it. It looks cool and it's currently $79.99 with free shipping on amazon. I know theres the mod to make it work with just the HDMI out, but the added function with the USB ports, make it a little better and less of a "hack job.."
http://www.amazon.com/Motorola-Mult..._m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=0HWYEBKJMAYFCF63E22S
I like to know this as well.
Hey guys,
I bought the same one from Amazon. It is just a dock with ports for connecting the USB, Power, and HDMI. The only thing I hate about it is getting the phone into the dock slot. You have to hold it just right to have the two ports on the phone aligning with the dock. The dock slot was not designed to help guide the phone into the connectors. Once you got it into the dock it’s fit great. The dock is usefully if you do not have a Bluetooth keyboard or mouse. I plug my wireless keyboard into the USB and it is good to go.
I did the WebTop mod and it is great to use when you are at friends house or traveling. The dock also allows you to access other options when it is dock.
WebTop
Entertainment Center
Clock Dock
I like the Clock Dock, since my phone is also my alarm clock.
Oh, if you got a case on your phone it will not fit into the HD dock. I own the Incipio case. It’s very thin but still doesn’t fit the dock.
Peter
Multimedia dock for Atrix
I bought the dock with remote for the Atrix (came with the IR remote).
I concur with the issue regarding aligning the unit to the usb and hdmi ports on the phone -- I spend a few seconds each time trying to get everything lined up (and hope I'm not scratching the phone in the process).
Other than that, the dock is very nice. I prefer using wired keyboards and USB mice rather than bluetooth -- it keeps the BT free for audio (listening to music).
I have my dock set up at work and connected to a KVM switch to connect my phone to the keyboard/mouse I use for the two computers at my desk. I don't switch video with the KVM switch, and I leave the phone in the "do nothing" mode most of the time so I can use the phone without the monitor.
The keyboard works great and I can use it to compose emails and SMS messages while it's on the dock.
My biggest disappointment is the operation of the mouse when it's on the dock and not in Webtop mode. The phone does not create a mouse cursor in the "do nothing" mode to allow you to use the mouse effectively, so you have to reach over and touch the screen to control the device. Using the mouse is pretty much useless as it jumps from icon to icon and you can't really predict where you are going when operating the mouse.
In webtop mode, you get a cursor, and operating the mouse is as you would exepect -- you can control the phone display mode with the cursor and it's as intuitive as using your finger. This is what should have been available when you're not in Webtop mode with a mouse.
If you hook up the monitor without a keyboard and mouse, the phone display turns into a laptop touchpad control. A keyboard icon is also available to switch to keyboard input as well. An external mouse and keyboard are highly recommended, however.
In short, the dock is awesome, and I plan on getting two more (without remotes); one for my desk at home and work (this one will be put on my home entertainment system so I can use the remote to control the device for music and videos.)
-Mark Sly
P.S.
I also am interested in what Motorola may be offering in terms of the "ruggedized case" mentioned in the manual for the dock. If you have an Otterbox or other protective case for your phone, you will likely will have to remove the device from the case in order to dock the unit.
The manual for the dock mentioned another insert you can place on the dock to accomodate the ruggedized case, but I can't find anything on Motorola's website for ordering either the insert or the case.
Just had my HD Dock yesterday.. Is there a way I can customize the webtop (desktop) other than change the wallpaper? Nothing special, it looks like it just blow up the 4" screen to 42" screen but the resolution is still the same. I was expecting somethin like opening multiple windows at the same time and multitask.
I had it connected to my 42" 1080p LED TV but looked like 50pixels all around the screen is gone! I can only see the minimize button on the upper right hand corner, restore can still be clicked if i drag my cursor all the way to the corner and click blindly, but the close button is totally gone. Is there an "fit to screen" option?
It great nonetheless..
powered ports on dock?
Usually, the fit to screen setting is on the tv itself. Check your remote for the aspect or zoom key, or in the settings somewhere.
But while I'm here, I had a question for you dock owners. Are the usb ports powered with 500ma? Has anyone tried connecting an external 2.5 hd to it?
Might want to check this out
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=980193
daetrin said:
Usually, the fit to screen setting is on the tv itself. Check your remote for the aspect or zoom key, or in the settings somewhere.
But while I'm here, I had a question for you dock owners. Are the usb ports powered with 500ma? Has anyone tried connecting an external 2.5 hd to it?
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thanks bro.. i set the screen resolution to 16:9 and it fits just perfectly!
thatboyp said:
Oh, if you got a case on your phone it will not fit into the HD dock. I own the Incipio case. It’s very thin but still doesn’t fit the dock.
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You can remove the insert on the dock and the Incipio will fit. The only problem now is it is too loose. A thicker case like Speck or Bodyglove will probably fit better.
Have a Shield Tablet and i have ordered the official Nvidia wireless controller from Amazon but they are taking forever to send it (currently doesnt even have a shipping estimate and i pre-ordered it). Im considering getting an affordable bluetooth controller for the time being (and using it as a secondary controller later).
The issue is all of the controllers ive come across have very mixed reviews. I dont need anything fancy just something thats functional and reliable. Id like it to offer analog sticks and all the required buttons.
So whats the best brand/model 3rd party controller thats 100% functional on the shield tablet?
Thanks
I'm gonna try the Moga Pro, kinda expensive but I shouldn't have to buy the Nvidia one if I have it.
The one for the Amazon Kindle Fire TV works quite well.
Moga pro looks awasome
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Moga Pro. Had the first Moga Pro and updated to the Moga Power Pro when that came out too.
how do you map your 3rd party controller's buttons? I have the Asus controller that I ordered with my Nexus Player. It seems to work great, I just need to map the power button on the controller as being the start button.
I own a couple of the Nvidia Shield controllers, and they're great and all. Particularly as they were made for the console, they work pretty well. But after taking a look into the Power A Moga Pro, have decided to order a couple of them. Despite their steep price, they seem to be well worth it. Especially as I can also use the MP with a phone.
Certain members of my family, namely my luddite partner, have found the official shield remote complicated to use. For our second Shield this time I ordered the Amazon Kindle Fire Voice TV Remote, as it has all of the buttons on the official Shield remote, but the addition of a pause, fast forward, rewind, and menu buttons. It also has properly labelled Android buttons for home and back. I have hoped this will encourage her to use Kodi etc. more.
We have been using it for two or three days now and my first impressions are these; this is much cheaper than the official remote, it is a very nice bit of kit although being made of plastic is does not have the same premium feel as the official remote, and the buttons make noise when you click them which I personally find ever slightly cheapens the experience. That is not to say it feels cheap - it is of good build quality. Opting for this remote you also lose the functionality of a micro USB port to charge, and instead have to use batteries, starting with those included, and you will also lose the 3.5mm headphones jack port. The voice control does work but you need to hold the button down to speak rather pressing it just once - we have had some issues with voice not working, as in not responding at all to the audio of our voices, and Android apparently getting stuck on the screen where it listens. To resolve this we needed to cold reboot the shield. Sometimes it also takes a few button presses to get the Shield to start responding, but once it does it keeps working at least for that session. We have our shield behind the TV so I am not sure whether that may be a factor with the signal or not.
All of that said, I would still recommend this over the official remote and not just because of the difference in price. For the room this Shield is in we are less likely to need to use the headphones, and we always have the game controller for that.
I am retracting my recommendation for using the Amazon Fire TV Voice Remote with the Shield, it just has too many issues, half the time it does not work and a reboot is required, and often it takes several keypresses to get a response on screen, and often I cannot boot the shield using the remote, even pressing the different buttons repeatedly.
I started using the official remote again and it was a relief, it is overpriced, it lacks rewind, fast forward etc. buttons, but it just works all of the time.
I've got a Razer Serval, can't map the buttons, so it's pretty crap really
Promising voice remote with IR programmable buttons
BPR1 BPR1S Plus 2.4G
BPR1 / BPR1S / BPR1S Plus Air Mouse Remote Control | Boxput Official
Please Note : it Maybe can Not use well on Samsung and LG Smart Tv directly. Due to the special systems of Samsung and LG TVs, There will be compatibility issues.many remote controls cannot be perfectly compatible. if Samsung or LG Smart Tv connecte android tv box , you can use our remote...
boxput.com
sold on aliexpress: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/3256803606647035.html
looks like the only downside is weird "boxput" logo
I ordered and waiting to arrive to test...
One of my few complaints with the LG G6 was the lacking IR blaster. I don't watch much TV, but my TV remote is missing and has been for years. I do use the Bluetooth sound bar a lot though and got used to having the convenience of having a IR Blaster. So with the the pending shipment of the Google Home I was researching home control capabilities and I came across this:
https://youtu.be/WHw9YRQNhRY
Bought it off AliExpress and it took about 3 weeks for shipping (I think you can get it off Amazon, also).
I was up and running within minutes and now have an IR blaster for the LG G6. Best of all it's WiFi based so it works from anywhere in the home (I can control sound volume from 2 rooms over) and I don't have to worry about awkward positions trying to get the phone to "see" the TV IR receiver. It supposedly has a lot more functionality, but I don't think I'll ever use it for anything more than a IR blaster.
I've read it can integrate with Google Home, but not having my Google Home I can not yet comment on that.
It was $15 and well worth it for just the IR blaster alone. Plus ALL my devices can use it (tablets, other phones, etc.).
Just figure I'd put this here for anyone else missing their IR blaster.
Keep in mind it does NOT have the devices pre-programmed so you'll need to "learn" each button function manually, but it's a one time set up thing and it took moments. I actually used my old phone to teach it the TV codes.
It does not come with a wall outlet plug, just the USB-A to the USB-Micro, so you'll need to acquire one somewhere else (I have a drawer full).
It's extremely simple device thus far.
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good find
I can verify this works with Google Home, although not natively. It requires IfTTT along with a spare Android phone to act as a server with the Tasker app, RM Plug in app, and Join app installed. But it actually works well.
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some help to you guys who want to find those IR Blasters for phones, try searching for 3.5mm headphone ir remote, they are cheap and aliexpress have some of it, is helpful since LG remove the native IR Blaster.
skyfox99 said:
I was up and running within minutes and now have an IR blaster for the LG G6. Best of all it's WiFi based so it works from anywhere in the home (I can control sound volume from 2 rooms over) and I don't have to worry about awkward positions trying to get the phone to "see" the TV IR receiver.
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If it's WiFi based, its not an IR blaster. An IR Blaster literally shoots infrared waves...
Also, you're missing the functionality of using your phone as a remote on all devices, you are limited to only controlling devices on your local network...
So you pulled up a thread that's over a year old to dispute it... And...
An IR blaster doesn't literally shoot anything. IR blasters are basically light bulbs, essentially, that emit light. Maybe you were meaning figuratively?
This device is an IR Transceiver. It literally emits Infrared light to control IR devices.
There is a model that is also a RF transceiver which I hadn't looked into in depth since I don't have any RF devices to control. Although with cheap RF modules out there for wall outlets, lights, etc. I have been considering looking into it further.
This IR Blaster merely receives the commands to transmit via WiFi communication. Sorry if there was confusion in the way I presented the information.
It's been over a year I've been using this IR Blaster and it's 98% up time is worth it alone just for the integration with my Google Home units. I rarely even have to use my phone now as it's all voice controlled. When I need to, the app is accessible but slower than just saying "Hey, Google."
Hope that helps clear up any confusion.
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The RM Mini is now supported by Google Home natively. It's still a little cumbersome, but far more simple to set up and NO longer requires a server running, and using multiple apps to make it work. It just requires you download the broadlink app (called "ihc"). Set up your device, learn your codes, create scene within the app, and then sign into the service via the Google Home services section. It will import all your scenes you've created.
Works flawlessly so far.
Best part is it's voice activated so I don't have to touch my phone to do anything, but can still use the app if needed.
Need ir remote link please
Hello sun_is_shinning. Just curious if you might have a link to the audio Jack ir blaster. I love my LG G5 since it has the built-in ir blaster. I dont mind trying the wifi remote blaster, but find the built-in ir blaster too convenient to lose
mastercoin said:
Hello sun_is_shinning. Just curious if you might have a link to the audio Jack ir blaster. I love my LG G5 since it has the built-in ir blaster. I dont mind trying the wifi remote blaster, but find the built-in ir blaster too convenient to lose
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Just to mention i find this IR Blasters but never try one or another, i make one for myself with a LED from a remote and soldering to one 3,5 headphone jack i have around, it did work fine with anyremote but you need to be under 20 centimeters to make it work because headphone jack power is low and cant make it work with more range from the device you are controling.
here they are:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/3-5...lgo_pvid=b81aae45-2dc2-43aa-90eb-70e0cc6893da
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Min...lgo_pvid=b81aae45-2dc2-43aa-90eb-70e0cc6893da
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Uni...lgo_pvid=b81aae45-2dc2-43aa-90eb-70e0cc6893da
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/For...lgo_pvid=b81aae45-2dc2-43aa-90eb-70e0cc6893da
@Sun_is_shining. Thank you for replying. I purchased 2 LG G5 phones. I have found the built in IR transmitters good enough to use for many TV’s. With the Quic Remote Android app, I have experienced many happy memories secretly controlling many hospital, auto dealership, & other waiting rooms broadcasting boring tv shows, moronic commericals
If I need to try the above, posted links I will reply much sooner than this reply.
Happy holidays
I was not sure where to post this because I kindof hijacked the Honda Connect Android thread with alternative solutions so I decided to create a new thread here as it seems more apropriate. I hope this will help others decide on an aftermarket unit that suit their needs.
The unit I bought and pictures with comments.
01.11.2018
I forgot to mention, there are no issues with porlarized sunglasses (vision impaired like I have, or regular). Usually LCD screens are polarized so if you have polarized glasses you only see the full display colors and brightness at a fixed angle 0 or 90 degrees (head straight or tilted to one side). This unit does not suffer from this issue like older phones did. (after posting I noticed I did mention this in my previous note )
28.10.2018
I'm really happy with the unit:
- response time is as fast as you expect it to be (as in touch - do stuff vs. click - you got it, hold on it's comming, almost there, just keep spinning windows/macos stuff)
- display is bright/direct sunlight, polarized sunglasses not an issue
- you can disable most of the inputs that source (steerwheel button) cycles through, except of A/V in (which I think is the LaneWatch camera)
- switching between radio, music, Waze and other apps is instant
- Waze only crashed once during a 450km ride, in the same area it crashes on my phone as well ... really Google ?
In the end I guess it's all about personal prefference about the preinstalled software which you can replace with apps from play store (or other sources) to your liking, so I'm not gonna comment on that as most of the defaults are fine for me it's fine. There are however a vew caveats to consider:
- Since I don't use my google account and created a new one for the unit I don't have access to my contacts. Altho the unit syncs your contacts via bluetooth to the phone app, 'OK Google' cannot use that.
- The default phone app does not have any favourites options, so your best bet is to use the last recent calls. But that list is not synced with your phone, it's only the list from when your phone was connected with the car (tried MTCDTelephonyBridge, did not work).
- There are some volume issues which I could not figure out (yet ). Navigation volume is set on MIXIN and has a range from -10 to + 10. At first I had it on -5, it was very low, then I moved to +7, fine for a while until it became too loud, lowerd to +5 and it was very low, bumped it again to +7 and it was the same low. I wish they would do the 'smart' thing like the original HU and just output navigation to front left speaker (that's the only clever thing I noticed in the decade old default Honda unit)
- Only one screw can be used to fix the unit, the original ones don't fit as they have huge integrated washers. You don't really need to fix it as it won't go anywhere but still, worth mentioning. Also I wanted to insulate all the cables with the same kind of foam that you find around air conditioning pipes, so that the cables don't touch the back plate of the unit. After taking the dashboard off again, I realized there is a ton of space there so the cables will not touch the back of the unit holding the radiator, which anyway is just for the TDA amp, so there was no reason to. If you go for a 2din unit, extra space will be smaller but still plenty of room on the bottom part.
24.10.2018
A few notes of my initial experience after installing the new unit:
1. First and most important for me, the 2 USB ports of the car have different connectors (mindblown). They look the same, but one of them has a different gap (or slit, not sure of the exact word) in one of the corners as you can see in this picture. The adapter provided only fits the gray connector. I'm not sure if the 2nd adapter that I ordered will fit the green one or not (maybe with some tunning it will fit). Now, it's not that important for everyone as you can still very easy pull the 2 other USB ports in the glove compartment (which I did), but now I have 2 unused slots: USB and HDMI.
2. For OCD types, the unit I got has a 9" screen (instead of 8" as described) so the frame that holds the part of the dashboard that you need to remove in order to install the HU stands on top of the screen covering the right part of the screen bezel and the 2nd mic instead of being around the screen (I hope that makes sense). The front pannel itself (bezels included) is a bit larger than the hole in the dashboard. This results in the actual screen being buried about 1cm below the dashboard line (about 5mm more than the original one). This interfeers a bit with the access to the 'hardware' buttons on the left side, but as a driver you don't need them as you can do all that from the steering wheel controlls. One side benefit could be that there is less sunlight hitting the screen. I will update with daytime pictures.
3. There are only 2 screws that can fix the new unit, but the original ones don't fit because of the embeded washers (which can not be removed from the screws ... why ????). The unit will not go anyware thanks to the fitting holes and the dashboard being linked with frame I mentioned before. I will still go look for some replacement screws, just in case.
4. Time for the good part. The difference between the original unit and this one ... day and night. Everithing is so fast and works as it's supposed to. Even the cold boot seems faster (20s or so) than the hot start of the original unit. I still have to test the ergonomics while driving and the long term stability of the whole system, but the first impressions are very positive. You would still have to configure a few things here and there to match you preferences or missing features (like proportion between navigation and music and sound level for different sources - like music and bluetooth, missing lane watch camera - which defaults to on and when you signal right unit will show a warning because of missing camera signal, direction lines when using the reverse camera - which are off by default etc.). There are a ton of options to configure. Plus you get some extra stuff like status of open doors, status of parking sensors, AC feedback (it also has an app for control but does not seem to do anything, I will dig deeper at some point but I don't find it that usefull, still cool tho), automatic door locking when you pass a set speed limit (I have not tested this yet), and probably some others which I am eager to discover.
I will update this post to share my experience with the new unit.
kind3r said:
I was not sure where to post this because I kindof hijacked the Honda Connect Android thread with alternative solutions so I decided to create a new thread here as it seems more apropriate. I hope this will help others decide on an aftermarket unit that suit their needs.
The unit I bought and pictures with comments.
24.10.2018
A few notes of my initial experience after installing the new unit:
1. First and most important for me, the 2 USB ports of the car have different connectors (mindblown). They look the same, but one of them has a different gap (or slit, not sure of the exact word) in one of the corners as you can see in this picture. The adapter provided only fits the gray connector. I'm not sure if the 2nd adapter that I ordered will fit the green one or not (maybe with some tunning it will fit). Now, it's not that important for everyone as you can still very easy pull the 2 other USB ports in the glove compartment (which I did), but now I have 2 unused slots: USB and HDMI.
2. For OCD types, the unit I got has a 9" screen (instead of 8" as described) so the frame that holds the part of the dashboard that you need to remove in order to install the HU stands on top of the screen covering the right part of the screen bezel and the 2nd mic instead of being around the screen (I hope that makes sense). The front pannel itself (bezels included) is a bit larger than the hole in the dashboard. This results in the actual screen being buried about 1cm below the dashboard line (about 5mm more than the original one). This interfeers a bit with the access to the 'hardware' buttons on the left side, but as a driver you don't need them as you can do all that from the steering wheel controlls. One side benefit could be that there is less sunlight hitting the screen. I will update with daytime pictures.
3. There are only 2 screws that can fix the new unit, but the original ones don't fit because of the embeded washers (which can not be removed from the screws ... why ????). The unit will not go anyware thanks to the fitting holes and the dashboard being linked with frame I mentioned before. I will still go look for some replacement screws, just in case.
4. Time for the good part. The difference between the original unit and this one ... day and night. Everithing is so fast and works as it's supposed to. Even the cold boot seems faster (20s or so) than the hot start of the original unit. I still have to test the ergonomics while driving and the long term stability of the whole system, but the first impressions are very positive. You would still have to configure a few things here and there to match you preferences or missing features (like proportion between navigation and music and sound level for different sources - like music and bluetooth, missing lane watch camera - which defaults to on and when you signal right unit will show a warning because of missing camera signal, direction lines when using the reverse camera - which are off by default etc.). There are a ton of options to configure. Plus you get some extra stuff like status of open doors, status of parking sensors, AC feedback (it also has an app for control but does not seem to do anything, I will dig deeper at some point but I don't find it that usefull, still cool tho), automatic door locking when you pass a set speed limit (I have not tested this yet), and probably some others which I am eager to discover.
I will update this post to share my experience with the new unit.
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Are you sure you asked for the correct unit or dasaita sent to you the correct unit?
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ikerg said:
Are you sure you asked for the correct unit or dasaita sent to you the correct unit?
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Could you be more specific ? There is a link to the unit I bought and pictures in the first post. I asked the seller about compatibility and other stuff before purchasing and he assured me that all is ok. I'm not saing I'm not happy with the unit, the small differences don't bother me, but others might be bugged by those details. Overall I'm just sharing my experience while highlighting differences between expectations (aka product description) and reality
@ kind3r: bought one for my CRV also.. got the same issue with those 3 connections I think its the 2 usb & 1 hdmi connection in the console box of our car. I'm currently looking for a solution for the AC control, and IMID display setting for the steering wheel. I haven't really tinkered with the setting so maybe its just setting or connection issue. Could you pls. update me if you discover the AC thing or other features that you have unlock with your unit.
Is the wheel button works good??
hafidelbazdari said:
Is the weel button works good??
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What's a weel button?
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Wifi and Bluetooth..how to they going for you..
Internal speaker for hands free or using external?
What phone are you connecting to it..apple or Android?
kind3r said:
....the 2 USB ports of the car have different connectors...
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Maybe that's because one is for charging? So they separated them via different connectors.
kind3r said:
2. For OCD types, the unit I got has a 9" screen (instead of 8" as described)...
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At the Dasaita Official Store they sell it as a 9" unit.
At the MTKNAVI Store they sell the "same" units.
Main advantage of MTKNAVI store: they ship from EU/Germany. Means no trouble about custom and taxes.
Thanks a lot for creating this thread. I am looking forward to hearing and seeing more from your Dasaita/HR-V experience.
HNDXCRV said:
@ kind3r: bought one for my CRV also.. got the same issue with those 3 connections I think its the 2 usb & 1 hdmi connection in the console box of our car. I'm currently looking for a solution for the AC control, and IMID display setting for the steering wheel. I haven't really tinkered with the setting so maybe its just setting or connection issue. Could you pls. update me if you discover the AC thing or other features that you have unlock with your unit.
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I think it's just so that they only fit one way so service people don't reverse them. Both did the same charging and connection, mirrorlink etc. so I can't really tell if there is actually a difference between them.
The only way I see a connection with the IMID display (mine is next to the speedometer) is via the canbus. I think that traffic is encrypted tho because I saw no mention about it anywhere so far. I'm not even sure if you can set the clock. I will do some more research on the subject.
My unit has an AC app, but it does not control anything. I will dig into that as well, tho I don't find it useful.
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Is the wheel button works good??
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Yes, all wheel buttons work but some with different functions. Hangup button also works as back, source switches between a lot of (some useless for me) apps like the ones for AV inputs but the navigation app is not included (I wish you could set a list of apps to cycle through), the task switcher that used to switch between nav, audio and phone now is the home button, the shortcut button acts as the old android menu button and the voice command does mute. There is no long press 2nd function except for left and right in radio app. I guess installing MTCDTools could improve the situation but I'm ok with the standard config.
dgcruzing said:
Wifi and Bluetooth..how to they going for you..
Internal speaker for hands free or using external?
What phone are you connecting to it..apple or Android?
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I use a phone that sits in the truck for internet via WiFi, no issues so far. For bluetooth/handsfree I use an iPhone, sound quaility is very good both ways, way better than the stock one. Time will tell.
I'm not sure what you mean by internal speaker. It uses the car sound system and speakers and I also connected the external mic that came with the unit and placed it close to the ignition button.
Manfred.62 said:
Maybe that's because one is for charging? So they separated them via different connectors.
At the Dasaita Official Store they sell it as a 9" unit.
At the MTKNAVI Store they sell the "same" units.
Main advantage of MTKNAVI store: they ship from EU/Germany. Means no trouble about custom and taxes.
Thanks a lot for creating this thread. I am looking forward to hearing and seeing more from your Dasaita/HR-V experience.
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Yeah, the taxes thing was a big advantage for me as they usually ship with DHL so you have to pay custom tax and also DHL tax for handling custom tax for you. My unit was shipped from UK, still EU for the next 6 month or so . Also I initially wrote to Dasaita Official Store and I still have not got a reply. MTKNAVI replied within a few hours.
kind3r said:
I think it's just so that they only fit one way so service people don't reverse them. Both did the same charging and connection, mirrorlink etc. so I can't really tell if there is actually a difference between them.
The only way I see a connection with the IMID display (mine is next to the speedometer) is via the canbus. I think that traffic is encrypted tho because I saw no mention about it anywhere so far. I'm not even sure if you can set the clock. I will do some more research on the subject.
My unit has an AC app, but it does not control anything. I will dig into that as well, tho I don't find it useful.
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wanted to change the date & time in my IMID display thats why im looking for workaround.. AC app? what's the name of the app? is it built in? i want to see the climate settings for novelty
kind3r said:
I think it's just so that they only fit one way so service people don't reverse them. Both did the same charging and connection, mirrorlink etc. so I can't really tell if there is actually a difference between them.
The only way I see a connection with the IMID display (mine is next to the speedometer) is via the canbus. I think that traffic is encrypted tho because I saw no mention about it anywhere so far. I'm not even sure if you can set the clock. I will do some more research on the subject.
My unit has an AC app, but it does not control anything. I will dig into that as well, tho I don't find it useful.
Yes, all wheel buttons work but some with different functions. Hangup button also works as back, source switches between a lot of (some useless for me) apps like the ones for AV inputs but the navigation app is not included (I wish you could set a list of apps to cycle through), the task switcher that used to switch between nav, audio and phone now is the home button, the shortcut button acts as the old android menu button and the voice command does mute. There is no long press 2nd function except for left and right in radio app. I guess installing MTCDTools could improve the situation but I'm ok with the standard config.
I use a phone that sits in the truck for internet via WiFi, no issues so far. For bluetooth/handsfree I use an iPhone, sound quaility is very good both ways, way better than the stock one. Time will tell.
I'm not sure what you mean by internal speaker. It uses the car sound system and speakers and I also connected the external mic that came with the unit and placed it close to the ignition button.
Yeah, the taxes thing was a big advantage for me as they usually ship with DHL so you have to pay custom tax and also DHL tax for handling custom tax for you. My unit was shipped from UK, still EU for the next 6 month or so . Also I initially wrote to Dasaita Official Store and I still have not got a reply. MTKNAVI replied within a few hours.
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Hello, For the bluetooth connection, did you use the built-in microphone of the car? if so, Did you add an adapter to operate the integrated microphone of the car?
hafidelbazdari said:
Hello, For the bluetooth connection, did you use the built-in microphone of the car? if so, Did you add an adapter to operate the integrated microphone of the car?
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No, I used the external mic provided with the new unit.
kind3r said:
No, I used the external mic provided with the new unit.
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Can you send me please a picture of this mic?
hafidelbazdari said:
Can you send me please a picture of this mic?
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You can see it in this picture on the left side (near the speedometer): https://photos.google.com/share/AF1...?key=cy04WUVYY3RrYTBYSXM0Q1RjSFEzd2RNM1h1ZEd3
Also you can see it in the description of the Dasaita unit at Aliexpress.
Manfred.62 said:
You can see it in this picture on the left side (near the speedometer): https://photos.google.com/share/AF1...?key=cy04WUVYY3RrYTBYSXM0Q1RjSFEzd2RNM1h1ZEd3
Also you can see it in the description of the Dasaita unit at Aliexpress.
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Ok thank you, if we have any idea to hide it .it will be better . What the you think?
hafidelbazdari said:
Ok thank you, if we have any idea to hide it .it will be better . What the you think?
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Using adapter cables. So one can use the inbuilt microphone and GPS module. We just have to find the correct cables via ebay, Aliexpress...
@kind3r
did you found a connector at the Dasaita harness with 12pin (instead of 14pin at EU version of Connect unit)? That must be connector D in the attached file. Found this info in a german HRV forum. He didn't use this connector (no problems so far).
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Can you send me please a picture of this mic?
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Sligthly better bicture of the mic in the final position.
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Using adapter cables. So one can use the inbuilt microphone and GPS module. We just have to find the correct cables via ebay, Aliexpress...
@kind3r
did you found a connector at the Dasaita harness with 12pin (instead of 14pin at EU version of Connect unit)? That must be connector D in the attached file. Found this info in a german HRV forum. He didn't use this connector (no problems so far).
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Wow, nice find. I was actually looking for that before buying a unit but could not find any schematics.
The back pannel arrangement of the connectors is not similar to my original unit see a picture of the back of mine here, but connectors seem to be more or less the same. Now, not all the connectors on the car have a corespondend on the harness and viceversa. The connector you are reffering to must be the Sirius XM receiver (? satelite radio) which as far as I know is not available in EU. Also, the USB connectors look the same in your document but in my case they are a bit different by just a small notch. What is the functionality you are interested in so I can tell you if it works for me or not.
On a side note, I have tested the unit during the last few days using the auto sleep feature, witch does not do a shutdown + cold boot so the unit starts in 1-2 seconds after you start the car. There is still a small delay after that when you get notifications about the SD card and USB stick that are being mounted so that's another 2-3 seconds until playback resumes, so it's still faster than the cold boot which takes around 25 seconds. But as android tends to be like windows on the long term, I will stick with the cold boot 'mode'.
As @HNDXCRV and others mentioned, I could not find a way to set the clock on the factory display. But as DST changed in my country, with a big bang I might add (earthquake during the night, could not sleep after that :/) to my surprise the car's clock changed as well. So I guess there is some communication from the HU, at least for time. My guess is playing in Factory Settings could result in AC being controlled from the unit as well. But I don't really see the point in doing that since dedicated hardware buttons are better than touching a display.
Some were concerned about the performance of the display in direct sunlight. Today was a sunny day, I took a trip to the seaside and I can tell you I had no issues looking at the display with my polarised sunglases on. Also the angle of the polarisation did not seem to matter as tilting my head did not do anything to the brightness level or colors, so kudos for that, it's a really nice display. At some point I was looking through the settings and realized it was only at 75% brightness.
Overall I really love this unit. Of course it's not perfect and there is some room for improvement here and there, but there are no words to describe the difference of (first and foremost for me) performance, sound quality, level of customization, size and quality of the display. Most of the small things that bother me are due to software ergonomics say like the radio app having a dedicated button for stereo lock, instead of something more useful (not that anything comes to mind right now). You have to customize a bit to your liking, I have uninstalled/disabled apps that cycle via the source button on the steering wheel, changed the volumes of navigation, radio, music, a2dp etc. to my personal preference. Also there are a ton of replacement apps for the stock ones, play store is full of choices if you have enough time to try them out, like launchers, dialers, music apps etc.
I still have to update to the latest Android version (unit came with 20180809, latest is 20181011, but with newer MCU 2.98_1) but since there is no reason to, I will hold off for the moment. I am tempted to do a full reset of the unit as there are some leftovers from the seller testing the unit like paierd phones etc. (not that it matters too much).
@kind3r
thanks a lot for your infos. Seems like this device is really worth it. I can not decide yet.
What I like to do if...
connect the original GPS (via adapter, found in ebay)
connect the original microphone (via adapter, not found yet)
Questions:
the radio has RDS fully working (channel names, radio text, traffic TP/TA) ?
is the Dasaita usable without internet connection (only radio or mp3) or does it throw error messages?
does "Ok Google" work? Or do we need the MtcDialer
Because of updates: maybe it's best to do it at the beginning.
For the GPS adaptor it will still take around 2 weeks to get to me so I can post some feedback about it.
I could not find any reference in the connectors for the integrated mic. I'm not sure if an adapter exists. At first I thought this will bother me but it tursn out it's not really that big of a deal. Sound quality is way better than with the original mic/HU combination.
RDS is working but unfortunatelly I cannot test traffic as it is not available in my country. The radio app has switches to enable disable TA and TP but since there is no broadcast for that ... they don't do anything for me.
It should not throw errors without an internet connection but for me the whole point was to use it with Waze for the realtime traffic information. There is a version of iGO preinstalled with Europe maps on an 8G SD card. I will probably buy a bigger card that can fit the iGO maps and music so I have an offline navigation as a backup just in case.
'OK Google' is working but unfortunatelly I think it uses the contacts from the google account and does not use the contacts synced via bluetooth from the paired phone. Since I created a new account for the car I don't have any contacts but I will add some just to test. MTCDialer did not work for me, it always crashes on launch.
Hi,
I'd like to introduce my project...
I'm building a vintage kit car using the BMW Z3 (2000 model year) as the base car. I want the car to have access to tech but for the tech to be hidden in the centre console, actually on the underside of the top of the console. The concept is that when no tech is needed (for example at shows) the car will retain its vintage looks but when tech is required (i.e. when being driven) the tech becomes available. I'm imagining a top section of the console which will hinge up and reveal the tablet. There isn't going to be much space on the underside of the console which is why I'm going for a tablet rather than one of the many Chinese android units.
As an aside, I've just ordered an Icebox Octa core 64G Rom / 4G Ram unit (TTF1983 ) for my facelift (2015) Vauxhall Insignia which I expect to arrive in the next week or so.
I've already researched other people's projects which has helped me to get to where I currently am. Where I currently am is ordering many of the bits and pieces which I expect to need.
My tablet project is intended to be a much simpler affair than the Icebox unit:
DAB and FM radio
Rear and, hopefully, front camera
Sat nav
OBD II
Mirror my phone if needs be
What I won't need includes:
Steering wheel controls
Air con management
Electric roof control
Pretty much everything else that an android head unit offers
What I might need is:
BT Phone but in a convertible that's going to be a bit of an issue any way
Because the car will only be used sporadically I need an effective power management system, one which will kick in after perhaps a month's lack of use.
My tablet of choice is a Galaxy Tab S 10.5 (SM-T800) which I happen to have lying around, it's currently running stock Android 6.01 . The tablet is a wifi model so the plan is to hotspot it to my Galaxy S8 when I'm on the road
I've already ordered
a 12V to 5V 3A dc-dc converter
a 4 port USB2 hub
an OTG Y cable to take power from the dc-dc converter to feed the tablet and to move data between the devices
an easycap UTV007 video capture device (for the parking camera units)
a USB to USB relay to allow the easycap to feed the video through to the USB when reverse is connected
an 'intelligent' video selector which has two video inputs (front and rear cameras) and one video output (to the head unit via the USB relay). The unit keeps the relevant camera connected to the output. I need to take delivery of this and play with it to see what it can really do.
an ELM327 bluetooth OBD II device
a NooElec Smart DVB+ device
a Creative Soundblaster DAC
I know that I'm going to need a decent amplifier between the DAC and the speakers (suggestions and recommendations welcome). I might also want a manual volume control, possibly with a push button mute facility. I've probably missed a bunch of stuff...
I've rooted the tablet and tweaked it (overwritten lpm) so that when the ignition is switched on then the tablet will boot. I've used MacroDroid to tell the device to switch off 10 seconds after the ignition is switched off (unless the ignition gets switched on again within those 10 seconds)
I'm looking very closely at the Agama Car Launcher to pull much of it together. There are some aspects of this launcher that I'd like to see improved. For example I'd like to be able to get back to the home screen from the maps screen (or other screens) CarWebGuru places a button on the screen to allow this. It would be nice also to have a split screen so that I can have maps on one side and Audio / OBD / any other app on the other side. I'm aware that I might not get all that I wish for
One thing I'd REALLY like to see improved is the cold boot time which is currently 50 seconds. I might consider a custom ROM if anyone knows of a ROM that will fire up quickly, or any other tweak which will significantly shorten the cold boot time. 10 seconds or less would be nice. I've looked at Cyanogenmod 12.1 or 13 with the quick boot utility but I understand that the quick boot is basically hibernate and may not survive a month without the ignition being switched on.
Hopefully I've given a reasonable overview of what I'm looking to achieve and hopefully there will be people out there that can help tie everything together and troubleshoot when the time comes.
Russell
nice project, good luck with it..
Keep us posted on your project progress...
Wondering how this is coming along?
My question for you is, will the tablet charge and use data via the OTG cable simultaneously? Did you need to run a custom kernel to enable that?
thanks.
Quite in consonance with what I've been wanting to achieve. Nevertheless, the plan was frustrated by other priorities. Would love to see how this emerges. Meanwhile here's a basic experiment I've tried.