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I've been having the Sleep of Death for 2 months now it seems. It was a please press button to turn on backlight before on occasion, now its been the full blown SOD for the past month or more. I've tried so much and I'm through dealing with it. It's constant to the point its unusable now. I've given up.
Questions I have are:
1. Does anyone really check to see if I have official Verizon software when I go to the store? Can't I just load Mr. X's non SOD Verizon rom and fool them? It looks official to me. A month before I bought my phone noone even knew what a TP2 was at the AT&T store yet I knew about it for half a year before release.
2. Is there anyway I can get another phone? I can't deal with another Touch Pro 2(or windows mobile phone). The 9 months or so I've had it were fun though. It's just so sloooooow at times and dated now. Can I hope to get a refurb Droid Incredible? I have the 1.99 extended warranty if that helps one bit.
3.I bought it online does that make any difference?
4. I'd like to try tomorrow :\
BTW a friend I know from work had 3 separate issues with 3 Touch Pro 2s and on his third trip to the store he was able to snatch a Droid. So I know it can happen but I'm foggy on the details how
if you a having a problem with your phone and you believe it needs to be replaced under warranty, i recommend you tell them you lost the phone and need a replacement.
well that seems a bit dishonest doesn't it? the reason i say this is to prevent you from being screwed over. from my understanding, the tp2 has different moisture detectors on the device that are not accurate, by some accounts on this forum.
i would hate for my claim to be denied and have to pay for another phone when i know that i didn't get it wet...
Do you mean the little sticker inside above the battery? That says void on it :\ It's said that since day 3 or so and I've never gotten it wet. I knew that was fishy and I read about that on the forum. Wow...thanks for the great help.
That really threw everything off though. I get charged for the replacement dont I? Can I get that replacement at the store or do I have to wait to get one shipped?...so broke right now, and all I want is a working phone ...equal or better than mine lol
Yes verizon will probably check to see if you have official software. Also your rom is causing the SOD issue. I use the stock rom and never have any SOD issues. Your chance of a upgrade to incredible is like 2% since it isn't a comparable phone. Also Verizon require 3 replacements inside of 90 days before they offer you a new phone. Also insurance fraud is not very nice. Return the phone if you get a new one.
I think insurance fraud is a bad idea all around. Plus I don't like reading about it since technically I have to stop the conversation if I think that this is where the conversation is going.
I suggest you get the stock firmware back on your phone, re-lock if if at all possible, go to the store and explain the issue you've been having. As long as the water detection stickers haven't changed, they'll usually replace it without asking too many questions.
I don't think the SOD issue you're having is device-related though. I'm almost 100% positive that it's entirely firmware related and I strongly suggest you go back to the stock ROM/RADIO/SPL and see if the issue is resolved before attempting warranty replacement.
Final note - Try to avoid using the term "Insurance Fraud" from here on out. It's bad practice, violates the forum rules, can get the site in BIG trouble and can get you banned/your thread closed.
-DH
so i recently had issues with the usb port not working at all. i go into exchange it and of course, it looks nice and shiny. i wouldnt have cared much about it being a refurb except for the fact that the touch panel hits the center of the lcd screen making it blot and, light leakage on the bottom U part of the phone AND the worst part....they didnt clean the ear piece....so there was still grime in there....THAT is just unacceptable. i went in and they refused to replace it with another phone. they said all they would do was replace the touch panel. ARE U KIDDING ME?! they had no reaction to the whole "grime in the ear piece" at all....*sigh* before i call and tear them a new one, i'd like to know how people have handled or would handle calling sprint with an issue like this? thanks guys!
Did they show you the phone, or was it in a box? I would go back to them, and tell them its unacceptable and you would like either a better refurbished phone or a new one.
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Did they show you the phone, or was it in a box? I would go back to them, and tell them its unacceptable and you would like either a better refurbished phone or a new one.
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they just gave me the phone. i got home and was charging it cuz they gave me the same batter so it was dead. after an hour on the charger turned in on and started inspecting it and found all those issues. i called sprint earlier before going to the repair center and she said they had to give me a new phone and that they shouldnt have issued that phone without inspecting it. when i went back to the sprint repair store they told me, THEY, as an independent store, could not give me a new phone. insurance/TEP only allows them to give me refurbished ones. so i guess tomorrow i get to ***** at sprint and demand a new phone. if it comes down to it, i can always just say that i dont want their business anymore. their tone sure does change when that happens.
That is Sprint's policy as far as I know. If you are outside of the first 30 days then they can only issue refurbs. Bummer, I know. However, if someone on the phone at Sprint is telling you that you should get a new device as replacement, I would try to have them on the phone when you went into the Sprint store. That way, if the people at the store start to hem and haw you can just put the two ends of the problem together right then and there. I would save any threats for a last ditch effort.
heres a time line and a brief explantion of things
aug 14th 2010 got brand new and first evo
sept 10th took phone back in to show it had a problem charging, they offered me a brand new replacement but i had to wait about 3 weeks to get one. the charg issue is due to all evos not trickle charging, apparently this is not defective its just how phones are made now
early october 2010 new phone finaly shows up, and has worked great until:
june 29 i discovered my phone wouldnt always charge via usb charge port, sprint tech says this is a known issue and they will replace it for free but they are out of stock, say it will be a few days and they will call me
july 21 i call them and asked why i havent heard from them they said they should have called, they said they did, i said check my call logs they said fine, we didnt call you. they said my refub was in
july 23 i show up to get phone and on the way home i notice the camera has a big yellow spot in the middle of the lcd and it shows up in all my pics and vids so i:
july 23 went back to get anther replacement and they said they would replace it again, but they are on back order again,
july 27the my replacement is in. but i cant makd the trip today
july 28 i make the trip and get my replacement again, later in the day i notice my replacment phone is answering calls on speaker phone. later in the night i decided to find out why.
well it looks like it may have something to do with a bad usb port again and it thinking it is docked
i rebooted a few times and i noticed that the car panel was opening on its own, well i went to settings and disabled this from auto startup and even though car panel isnt auto running now that i can see it still answers my phone in speaker phone.
also i put it on the charger over night and it didnt charge.
in summary, its been almost a month a 2 refurbs later and i am still trying to get a phone that works
i am the guy who asked about a month ago about how i would like to know how to negotiate for a evo 3d, well here i am not getting what i would even consider a fair shake, let alone a awesome one.
so what do folks think my options are?
is getting a evo3d an option? what about a NEW evo, not a refurb.
should i continue to deal with the sprint store, i know its not their fault but this is a 35minute drive one way to go fetch all these broken phones, or should i contact sprint customer support via telephone?
My advice is to call Sprint and bug them until they send you a NEW phone. I'm not saying it will be an easy call to get through, but it might go smoothly if you have this history.
Having said that, I feel like I've seen fixes for the car dock thing . . . but that may require rooting, and after this many replacements I'm sure you're on GB and would have to wait until a root method is developed. (It might come as early as tonight, but it also might never happen.)
My advice is to call Sprint and bug them until they send you a NEW phone. I'm not saying it will be an easy call to get through, but it might go smoothly if you have this history.
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Yep exactly. The same thing happened to me last year. I went through 6 refurbs, all had different problems. Refurbs are horrible, they are never fixed correctly, and if the phone had multiple issues, they will usually only fix one, leaving the other things still broken.
Call sprint, talk to Account Services. Tell them you will cancel your plan if they dont send you out a NEW phone. Tell them you are tired of going into the store every day for another problem with the phone. Also tell them that if they want to keep giving you refurbs, you will keep returning them until you get a perfect phone, whic is stupid for them because it would just be way cheaper to just give you a brand new one.
Mines had the same usb problem, I got a brand new evo on the spot and I was in and out in 30mins.(saw the rep pull out an evo box and took out the phone in the original factory plastic, no refurb)
They're not going to budge on the evo 3d, You can ask for a nexus S since its the next compareable phone to the evo.
potna, I feel your pain. The joke in my shop it that "does it work?" isn't in the refurb checklist before sending them out. I personally have gone through 5 refurbs for one customer over a two week period because every refurb was defective. The District S&R Supervisor ended up BUYING the customer a new Evo. It's gotten to the point that this "swap up" program that offers a Nexus or Shift seems to be the solution. Granted, fixing the Evo's right the first time would have been my choice but I don't make policy.
My suggestion is to either take the Nexus/Shift swap or when you go back to the store have the service manager contact regional to get authorization for a new Evo. This will be much easier than dealing with the red tape that Customer Service will put you through.
Alright, this is very disconcerting, my faith in LG may be gone.
PREFACE:
I have had this phone since launch and have been on this forum since the day it was started. I have rooted, debloated, and changed launchers. I have no dislike for LG, so please do not call me a hater or a fanboy.
PROBLEM:
Starting a couple of days ago, during calls the person on the other end would only hear static and clicking. I finished the conversation through text. I called somebody else the next day and it worked fine. Today, I was talking to someone for about ten minutes then the static happened and I had to finish the conversation in text. Since the person I was talking to is a close family member I troubleshooted and kept calling them, and then a phone of one of one of my roommate's so that I could hear the problem first-hand. It sounds HORRIBLE. Since then I have used a voice recording app to test the problem.
TROUBLESHOOTING:
I have done the following to determine that this is indeed a hardware problem:
-Turned off all data
-Unlocked ALL "debloated" apps
-Restarted many times
-Put only the original battery in(I have two spare official batteries)
And the problem persists.
QUESTIONS:
-What should I expect will happen with the return/exchange process?
-My original battery has the pink water damage thing turned pink. This phone has never touched water, I think it happened because I have kept the battery in my wallet, which probably has gotten sweat on it. Will LG try to be a **** about this?
-Should I unroot and otherwise restore this phone to stock? If so, how do I do this?
-Is there anything else I should know?
-I need a phone to use, if I cut my SIM card to fit into my old iPhone 4, how will I get it back in?
Thank you, and if there is a possibility I could just return it I may. I LOVE this phone, but I have never had a microphone defect in any other phone I have ever owned. I am starting to wonder how such a large company like LG can allow something like this to happen, rightly so, I am very unsure of the longetivity and overall "completeness" of this phone.
The only other quick and easy thing I would suggest to narrow down the issue would be to try a wired or bluetooth headset.
It's pretty easy to find micro SIM adapters for sale online for 1 or 2 dollars.
I feel like I have some comforting responses to many of your concerns.
First of all, you should have a 1 year manufacturer's warranty against hardware defects. You should be covered.
They will most likely look for the water damage indicator on the battery, but if they are all official batteries then the store clerk won't know the difference. If it says LG on it then you're probably fine.
I saw an "unroot" option in SuperOneClick, but I cannot verify that it's functional for the Nitro. Yesterday was my first root ever. I would find a way to unroot it to be honest. Then do a hard reset and take it in.
As for the SIM going back to the iphone 4, it can be done. I just pulled my SIM and snapped a couple of pics to show you how to cut it and still use it. I didn't cut it myself, it was done by an ebay seller that reactivated my Unlimited Data plan and mailed me the card. He thought I had an iphone 4 so he cut it. I then told him I didn't have the iphone 4 so he set it back in and sent the whole card. It's worked in several phones since then.
I say if you love the Nitro then don't worry. AT&T should honor the manufacturer's 1 year warranty. I've never dealt with it so I don't know how they'll handle it, but they should take care of you.
Just a heads up, the battery is supposed to have pink + signs on it. When those bleed and the sticker is just an ugly mess of pink blotches, that's when it touched water. Not sure what yours looks like but I figured there may be a chance you are seeing the pink + signs and thinking you are screwed.
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Just a heads up, the battery is supposed to have pink + signs on it. When those bleed and the sticker is just an ugly mess of pink blotches, that's when it touched water. Not sure what yours looks like but I figured there may be a chance you are seeing the pink + signs and thinking you are screwed.
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Thank you, what I was seeing was indeed the little pink crosses.
@gmkelly - thanks for the tip, I tried it out and my wired mic does work.
After unplugging the mic, I set it aside and when I checked again, the nitro's mic was working. I made a call and halfway through the issue started up again. Since then, I have replicated the issue multiple times using the recording app. The mic will work, and then usually stops working again after a few minutes of it being on, usually about 3.5 minutes. Thus the problem is intermittent, and I can replicate the problem for an AT&T rep.
What I really need to know is what to do about it being rooted.
EDIT: Dammit, I am having trouble replicating the problem now. Is there a chance that something in the headphone port is causing this. Ahh, I have a program to write for a C++ class and this is not a good time for this to be happening. Been recording now for 10 minutes and the mic is still working fine.
EDIT 2: Does anyone think showing a recording of the static to an AT&T rep be enough evidence? If anyone wants to hear some static you can get an earful here.
red_solo_cup said:
Alright, this is very disconcerting, my faith in LG may be gone.
PREFACE:
I have had this phone since launch and have been on this forum since the day it was started. I have rooted, debloated, and changed launchers. I have no dislike for LG, so please do not call me a hater or a fanboy.
PROBLEM:
Starting a couple of days ago, during calls the person on the other end would only hear static and clicking. I finished the conversation through text. I called somebody else the next day and it worked fine. Today, I was talking to someone for about ten minutes then the static happened and I had to finish the conversation in text. Since the person I was talking to is a close family member I troubleshooted and kept calling them, and then a phone of one of one of my roommate's so that I could hear the problem first-hand. It sounds HORRIBLE. Since then I have used a voice recording app to test the problem.
TROUBLESHOOTING:
I have done the following to determine that this is indeed a hardware problem:
-Turned off all data
-Unlocked ALL "debloated" apps
-Restarted many times
-Put only the original battery in(I have two spare official batteries)
And the problem persists.
QUESTIONS:
-What should I expect will happen with the return/exchange process?
-My original battery has the pink water damage thing turned pink. This phone has never touched water, I think it happened because I have kept the battery in my wallet, which probably has gotten sweat on it. Will LG try to be a **** about this?
-Should I unroot and otherwise restore this phone to stock? If so, how do I do this?
-Is there anything else I should know?
-I need a phone to use, if I cut my SIM card to fit into my old iPhone 4, how will I get it back in?
Thank you, and if there is a possibility I could just return it I may. I LOVE this phone, but I have never had a microphone defect in any other phone I have ever owned. I am starting to wonder how such a large company like LG can allow something like this to happen, rightly so, I am very unsure of the longetivity and overall "completeness" of this phone.
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Just a heads up, the battery is supposed to have pink + signs on it. When those bleed and the sticker is just an ugly mess of pink blotches, that's when it touched water. Not sure what yours looks like but I figured there may be a chance you are seeing the pink + signs and thinking you are screwed.
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Oh btw, I recalled something an AT&T rep asked me when I was sending back the Atrix for an RMA. He didn't ask me to check the battery for water damage by looking at the pink crosses, he asked me to look for a white dot on the phone itself. The same white dot is on this phone. U can see it right above the middle screw to the right of the SD embossed sign. That white dot will change color (I forgot what color he said, maybe pink too) if the phone is water damaged.
I think nowadays the battery moisture indicator does not really apply anymore. At my job, we have tons of BB batteries that has indicators showing moisture damage but works perfectly fine. It's most likely just because the batteries get warm n moisture can build up by it.
Ok I'm sort of confused. Is this only happening with something plugged into the 3.5mm headphone jack, or are you referring to the actual built in mic on the bottom of the phone?
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EDIT 2: Does anyone think showing a recording of the static to an AT&T rep be enough evidence? If anyone wants to hear some static you can get an earful [URL="http://dl.dropbox.com/u/16882142/AUD0001.3gp" said:
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OUCH!! I forgot to turned down the speakers n i got a bad shock!
anywho, do u have an at&t authorized repair/warranty center by where u live/work? I say bring your phone n recording over to them n show it to them, let them hear it n explain this happens sporadically. If u want, tell them u can call their phone there n let it sit for 10 minutes or so until it happens again. But just make sure it can be recreated in their presence though. Otherwise u should just call 611 (or is it 511...411?? ) talk with them n wait till it happens over the phone lol!
Ha, just figured out the "multi-quote" system.
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Ok I'm sort of confused. Is this only happening with something plugged into the 3.5mm headphone jack, or are you referring to the actual built in mic on the bottom of the phone?
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The mic in question is the Nitro's built in microphone.
aquariuz23 said:
OUCH!! I forgot to turned down the speakers n i got a bad shock!
anywho, do u have an at&t authorized repair/warranty center by where u live/work? I say bring your phone n recording over to them n show it to them, let them hear it n explain this happens sporadically. If u want, tell them u can call their phone there n let it sit for 10 minutes or so until it happens again. But just make sure it can be recreated in their presence though. Otherwise u should just call 611 (or is it 511...411?? ) talk with them n wait till it happens over the phone lol!
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Thanks, the Chicago Warranty center is a couple blocks from my work. It looks like I may be able to get "same-day, face-to-face warranty and technical support." This certainly is good news. And thanks for the info about the water damage indicator, white gold!
I guess my main concerns now are backing up and unrooting.
-I guess I will have to purchase titanium backup and go that route. Anything special I should know about backing up?
-As far as unrooting goes, I think I can recall seeing some post about it on this forum, I will have to go hunting. Are there any known successful methods?
EDIT: according to this thread, [email protected] says he has unrooted it. Thanks again for the help guys, I am starting to think this won't be such a PITA afterall.
Easiest way to unroot is to download superoneclick 2.3.3 and click the unroot button with usb debugging enabled on the phone. I have done it several times without fail.
Which method did you use to root it? I know in the SuperOneClick program there is an "Unroot" button.
use malninion's unbricking solution to unroot your phone and restore it to factory if you are concerned about a root getting in the way of an exchange and are unable to deroot. also, all exchanges of this phone under warranty are for refurbished units, LG policy.
Refurbs are fine if they still hold the 1 year warranty. Do you know the details?
if you are asking me, do I know the details of what?
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if you are asking me, do I know the details of what?
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Sorry, yes. Do you know the details of factory warranty on a refurbished phone?
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Sorry, yes. Do you know the details of factory warranty on a refurbished phone?
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The LG rep and the ATT rep I spoke with yesterday said the refurbs are better and they carry full warranty. I *thought* I heard the LG rep say our phone has a 6 month warranty, new or refurbed but it very well could be 1 year. Both reps said all refurbished phones are tested v. 10% of new phones are tested. Not sure how that makes a refurb better but that's all the details I was given re: the exchange policy.
Also, I went through the troubleshooting of mine on the phone with ATT, that agent issued a return authorization that I could have used locally by just bringing the phone in and getting a replacement. I got the impression that there would be no on-site attempt to fix my phone, just a visual inspection of the glass, case and water damage marks.
I was able to fix my phone so I didn't have to go through with it all.
Maybe it's 6 months on a new one. I think I heard 1 year, but I guess I'm not positive on that.
It does not matter which method you used to root your phone (doomlord or superoneclick), superoneclick can unroot the phone fine without restoring the phone via Mal's guide. I use doomlord to root and superoneclick to unroot on my phone.
red_solo_cup said:
Ha, just figured out the "multi-quote" system.
The mic in question is the Nitro's built in microphone.
Thanks, the Chicago Warranty center is a couple blocks from my work. It looks like I may be able to get "same-day, face-to-face warranty and technical support." This certainly is good news. And thanks for the info about the water damage indicator, white gold!
I guess my main concerns now are backing up and unrooting.
-I guess I will have to purchase titanium backup and go that route. Anything special I should know about backing up?
-As far as unrooting goes, I think I can recall seeing some post about it on this forum, I will have to go hunting. Are there any known successful methods?
EDIT: according to this thread, [email protected] says he has unrooted it. Thanks again for the help guys, I am starting to think this won't be such a PITA afterall.
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Or, you can simply remove the super user icon from the app drawer and they won't even know the phone was ever rooted (unless they go into applications and search for it, which I HIGHLY doubt they will even bother). About backing up, how many apps do you have on your phone? Does it really matter if u have to reinstall them again? If it does, then get TiBu free edition n manually accept every reinstallation process.
As for contacts, sync them all to your gmail acc, n your emails should already be synced anyways. For sms/mms, get go sms pro (free) and it has the feature to backup your sms/mms to the phone which u can then back up to your computer.
Don't bother with restoring to factory settings, just hand the phone to them, removing any icons of apps that might indicate you are rooted.
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It does not matter which method you used to root your phone (doomlord or superoneclick), superoneclick can unroot the phone fine without restoring the phone via Mal's guide. I use doomlord to root and superoneclick to unroot on my phone.
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but a reflash = more fun times!
I'm really hoping that someone can come up with a solution to this problem. Back in September, my mother purchased a s6 edge+ under the At&t Next plan. Everything worked fine until November, when calls started dropping and people were saying that either they couldn't hear my mother or she couldn't hear them. There's also a lot of static when making calls.
The first thing we did was take the phone in to an AT&T store for repairs and they figured it was an issue with her sim card. After replacing the sim card, the problem went away, but eventually came back. Going back to the store a second time, a representative suggested taking it to tech support. We did and they couldn't do anything except get a warranty replacement. However, when the replacement came, it had the same issue.
Now my mother is practically ready to rip some heads because basically, no matter who higher up she talks to, they're saying that the only thing they can do is keep sending replacements. There's a complete refusal to offer a different type of phone or any other kind of help at all.
My question is does anyone know what the problem is and how to fix it? If not, is there any other route she can take or is she stuck paying for a phone that is defective?
This is what I would do...
Well, the only thing you can do that I know of is to try and sell it like it is or for parts.
Be honest in the description but be satisfied with the income because its actually pretty high.
1. remove all personal info including all synced accounts to the phone
1a. Make sure you take the sim too
2. soft reset
3. hard reset
4. clear the cache on the device
5. reboot to make sure everything runs smoothly
buy a new phone.
That's what i'd do. Not a XDA expert. Maybe if you hold onto it for a few months a solution will come up.
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I'm really hoping that someone can come up with a solution to this problem. Back in September, my mother purchased a s6 edge+ under the At&t Next plan. Everything worked fine until November, when calls started dropping and people were saying that either they couldn't hear my mother or she couldn't hear them. There's also a lot of static when making calls.
The first thing we did was take the phone in to an AT&T store for repairs and they figured it was an issue with her sim card. After replacing the sim card, the problem went away, but eventually came back. Going back to the store a second time, a representative suggested taking it to tech support. We did and they couldn't do anything except get a warranty replacement. However, when the replacement came, it had the same issue.
Now my mother is practically ready to rip some heads because basically, no matter who higher up she talks to, they're saying that the only thing they can do is keep sending replacements. There's a complete refusal to offer a different type of phone or any other kind of help at all.
My question is does anyone know what the problem is and how to fix it? If not, is there any other route she can take or is she stuck paying for a phone that is defective?
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There issue could either be, A - service where she is at is lacking for the phone, and/or it is how she's holding the phone; holding near the bottom by the base of the phone, it does cause interference with talking on it when using. Try having her holding near the middle to avoid call interruptions or even using a headphones for calling. Reason for holding it differently is because the antennas of our phones are located on the bottom, hence holding the bottom of the phone will cause call interruptions. Furthermore, the only thing that AT&T can do is offer a replacement.
I hope this helps you and good luck. ??
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There issue could either be, A - service where she is at is lacking for the phone, and/or it is how she's holding the phone; holding near the bottom by the base of the phone, it does cause interference with talking on it when using. Try having her holding near the middle to avoid call interruptions or even using a headphones for calling. Reason for holding it differently is because the antennas of our phones are located on the bottom, hence holding the bottom of the phone will cause call interruptions. Furthermore, the only thing that AT&T can do is offer a replacement.
I hope this helps you and good luck. ??
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For the most part, she uses a Bluetooth headset. I also use at&t and call quality is fine for my Nexus 6p
Yes, but she has a 6 E+ correct? As I said, the antenna of the phone is located on the bottom and thus holding the bottom WILL cause call quality to be little to none leading to dropped calls. It sucks so I use a headset to avoid that and/or I hold it differently. That is the only thing 'bad' about it.
Yes, yes, comparing 'other' phones isn't going to help to justify call quality; it's redundant. I gave the two best options to fix the issue; hold the phone differently than the bottom and if it still doesn't work normal, keep on bugging AT&T for replacement(s). Those are the options. If you don't like either of those, (just my hunch ?) sell it and hope to get enough money for a new phone.