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Teathering on T-Mo TP2?

I am contemplating dumping my HTC Fuze and jumping ship from AT&T to T-Mobile just to get a Touch Pro 2, however I just got off the phone with T-Mo customer service and they informed me that you cannot tether the Touch Pro 2 to a laptop or use it as a modem.
Now I am sure the harware supports tethering and this is just something T-Mobile has decided to cripple, but how easy would it be to enable teathering? I hate the idea of paying $350 plus locking into a new contract and losing functionality from my Fuze!

Baloney.
Internet sharing is on the phone and the HTC WiFiRouter works perfectly.
I have tested both.

Thank you for the fast response, and for clearing this up! Once again, knowledge gained from this site continues to impress me!!!

I think what the T-Mobile people were actually getting at is your not supposed to do it.
I think its in the T&C's that if you have a data plan you wont use it through a computer and to watch video etc
(I use it all the time though and they dont enforce it)

You can tether (legitimately) on Total Internet (their old $20 plan) or the new "PDA" plans ($25 and $35, but include messaging.)
You CANNOT (according to the rules) do so on their "phone" plans (Web2Go I think now) but in some cases it will work. They're enforcing this with the TP2 by doing the "automatic add the feature" game based on IMEI, as they have with other smartphones they are selling now (especially the Android ones that won't work at all without it.)
Note that the TP2 has a number of included features (including embedded account management!) that doesn't work right, especially from the browser, if you use the Internet2 or Internet3 APN. You have to use "epc" if you want those to work.
I'm not sure why they'd care about video and such on the TP2 in particular, seeing as it has a Youtube video viewer BUILT IN FROM THE FACTORY in T-Mobile's software load!

Genesis3 said:
Baloney.
Internet sharing is on the phone and the HTC WiFiRouter works perfectly.
I have tested both.
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Where are you finding this "HTC WiFiRouter"?? (I'm on the T-Mobile version just like you guys)
I don't see it anywhere. I feel like such a newb, lol, even though I'm an ex-cook from my old Wing. So the WiFiRouter thing is pre-installed, right? And it'd let me create a WiFi hotspot for others to connect and use my data? That's what it sounds like.
Am I way off here? Or where the heck is this program? (Welcome everyone)

Search for it here on XDA - its a CAB you have to load.

Genesis3 said:
Search for it here on XDA - its a CAB you have to load.
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Ok, lol. You made it sound as if it was pre-loaded. I'll find it. Thanks.

T-mobile policy on tethering
Per policy it states that this type of 3g HSPCA device isnt allowed to tether and be used as a modem but the phone says otherwise. Also my theory on the last minute price jump on the tp2 is because tmobile can't stop it from being used as a modem on there smart phone data plans like they have with non rooted android devices. As an employee I researched this heavily before buying the TP2 and its one of the reasons why I went for the device. T-Mobile is so proud of their new 3g network but have made a lot of decisions to try and limit bandwidth consumption like removing push internet from the device. But anyway it should work. My disclaimer is that policy changes constantly at T-Mobile so this may not always be so.

Greyfoxzero said:
Per policy it states that this type of 3g HSPCA device isnt allowed to tether and be used as a modem but the phone says otherwise. Also my theory on the last minute price jump on the tp2 is because tmobile can't stop it from being used as a modem on there smart phone data plans like they have with non rooted android devices. As an employee I researched this heavily before buying the TP2 and its one of the reasons why I went for the device. T-Mobile is so proud of their new 3g network but have made a lot of decisions to try and limit bandwidth consumption like removing push internet from the device. But anyway it should work. My disclaimer is that policy changes constantly at T-Mobile so this may not always be so.
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Lol. Yea, that's probably true. I wish if we could have the push internet, but we'll get that with custom ROM's! Take that T-Mobile!

azwildcat98 said:
I am contemplating dumping my HTC Fuze and jumping ship from AT&T to T-Mobile just to get a Touch Pro 2, however I just got off the phone with T-Mo customer service and they informed me that you cannot tether the Touch Pro 2 to a laptop or use it as a modem.
Now I am sure the harware supports tethering and this is just something T-Mobile has decided to cripple, but how easy would it be to enable teathering? I hate the idea of paying $350 plus locking into a new contract and losing functionality from my Fuze!
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Tethering works. I have a Touch Pro 2 with the stock T-Mobile USA ROM. Despite what the T-Mobile representative says, the stock ROM contains the correct application to do this. Programs --> Internet Sharing.
Plug the Touch Pro 2 into your computer via USB and then hit "Connect". Bam, instant Internet tethering. Works well if you're in a bind.

T-Mobile does states exactly this:
"1. Permissible and Prohibited Uses
Your Data Plan is intended for Web browsing, messaging, and similar activities on your device and not on any other equipment. Unless explicitly permitted by your Data Plan, other uses, including for example, tethering your device to a personal computer or other hardware, are not permitted."
When I logged in to get details of my Data Plan, here is what I found:
"T-Mobile Total Internet
T-Mobile Total Internet includes unlimited Internet access on your phone, along with unlimited Internet access in T-Mobile HotSpot locations. Access your e-mail or browse the Web on your phone, or log on to wireless broadband access from a T-Mobile HotSpot in one of thousands of locations around the world using your Wi-Fi-enabled device."
I'm not inclined to poke this fire with T-Mobile as I have been a customer for a long time and have been nothing but happy with their customer service; and even before a put a cooked ROM on my last phone (wing) it had an internet connection sharing by default (bluetooth or USB only).

i tether on my 2.99 t-zone plan, they never said anything.

testaccount said:
i tether on my 2.99 t-zone plan, they never said anything.
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They won't ever say anything, lol, don't worry. Hell, I downloaded a 139 MB file to my TP2 a few days ago, it's not like they nock on my door, saying, are you the account holder of number ******???
Go ahead and tether all you want. If they do ask you, say you were downloading lots of music or something FROM YOUR PHONE. They can't prove anything.
PS, that's the $5.99 T-Zones, LOL. 2.99 would be incredible!

ace10134 said:
Go ahead and tether all you want. If they do ask you, say you were downloading lots of music or something FROM YOUR PHONE. They can't prove anything.
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This is one blind statement if I ever heard one!
Tmobile IS your ISP. Tmobile KNOWS where you go and what you do.
Now, whether they will actually take the time to look through their logs and find out who's been going where, that's a different story.
But don't say they can't prove anything, because they can, and if they want to they will terminate your contract, and charge you the ETF on top.
FYI, I've been with Tmobile since they were VoiceStream. In fact I opened the account in Feb of 2001. Not to mention, at some point during my career I've actually managed the entire wireless account pool for a 150 people office, and most of them were on Tmobile. That should tell you something about my level of knowledge, as well as loyalty.

ace10134 said:
PS, that's the $5.99 T-Zones, LOL. 2.99 would be incredible!
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Actually no, his is $2.99. At one point it WAS $2.99; however i have the $5.99 tzones and have used it to tether w/o any issue a few times

Hi, are there any other settings to configure internet sharing in win mobile, can't browse on my PC, but on my phone says it's connected

leemrvnt said:
Hi, are there any other settings to configure internet sharing in win mobile, can't browse on my PC, but on my phone says it's connected
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Start - Programs - Internet sharing.

LOL
The last post was too funny. Seriously though, T-Mobile has little in the way of "monitoring" what data is being sent to your phone. Its more of the amount thats an issue. T-Mobiles logic is that tethering will burn up bandwidth quicker which makes it more likely to hit the data cap and considering whats going on with ATT and the IPHONE bandwidth issue it makes sense. BUT if you monitor your bandwidth consumption and keep it under 10gb, I would say safer would be under 5gb a month then your not rocking the boat. And even when it hits the cap is throttles down to edge speeds anyway so I cant see an issue in this. Now if you live on tethering 24/7 then ya your gonna be pushing it. Customer care can see your data consumption in the system so just call um up and say hey I am worried I might be going over my data limit, lol they will be like blah i know how important blah blah it is to not go over. Then when they shut up they will say you used only 3gb this month so far so your doing fine blah blah blah. If T-Mobile had something in place to detect you tethering they wouldnt have made google remove the tether app from the market. Open source i guess means its open until you do something we think isnt right? I think its still bunk because what happens when someone hits the cap on there 3g phone. nada. And you would be surprised how under used T-Mobiles 3g network really is depending on the city. Theres some rumor that this was planned since the iphone may be going to other carriers soon. I will leave it at that.

[SOLVED] So...Can you USB tether? [solution # 25 no root required]

Seems to be mixed reviews that some can and some cannot. So what's the deal?

no....the end

Mine will let me but my web browser takes me to a page asking me to sign up for the Tethering service at $14.95/month.
Suppose the answer to the question is technically *yes*

I paid the upgrade for tethering, though I think it is a bit of bait and switch (their literature certainly wasn't clear, and my plan allowed it on my Vibrant with no complaint). But it is too important a function for me not to have. If I were a new customer, I would opt for it as well (unless some other carrier didn't charge extra). Frankly, I don't see why they can't just charge by the gigabyte (why should they care if you are streaming videos to your cell phone or to your PC?), but it seems this is the current convention.

jpnelson40 said:
I paid the upgrade for tethering, though I think it is a bit of bait and switch (their literature certainly wasn't clear, and my plan allowed it on my Vibrant with no complaint). But it is too important a function for me not to have. If I were a new customer, I would opt for it as well (unless some other carrier didn't charge extra). Frankly, I don't see why they can't just charge by the gigabyte (why should they care if you are streaming videos to your cell phone or to your PC?), but it seems this is the current convention.
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If the carriers can charge you for something they will. It's as if 1GB on PC > 1GB on Phone. I assume that once we get root on these phones we'll be able to tether for free the same way I was able to on my Vibrant.

grabiarz said:
If the carriers can charge you for something they will. It's as if 1GB on PC > 1GB on Phone. I assume that once we get root on these phones we'll be able to tether for free the same way I was able to on my Vibrant.
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That should be the case. It's hard to go from 2 years (roughly of course) of using all sorts of awesome roms on the HD2 to this locked up guy. Here's to the future though, cheers.

Yes, I can.

I can. No app needed. Built right in the stock rom

I see another difference from previous tethering on the Vibrant: from the T-Mobile support page:
"When your phone is serving as a Wi-Fi hotspot for otherdevices, you cannot access the Internet on the phone itself."
It seems that it isn't completely true: I can listen to Internet radio, use Firefox, at least some of the time. The Android Market seems to fail consistently, however (just hangs "loading...").
Does anyone understand why this change has been made, or what is it's purpose?

i still don't quite can figure out why some people are able to teather as is without root
yet, some other are unable to teather
it's something in the phone plan that you guys have?, or simply the SIM card? or maybe it's on the account side in Tmobile?

I put the new SIM in my nexus and tethered fine when I couldn't from this phone.
Sent from my SGH-T989 using XDA App

Its in the wireless And Network settings under 'mobile hotspot'

Just tried to tether again this morning, it didn't work. It asks me to now add the plan.... Tethering was working.
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I suppose that in order to ask us to sign onto tethering, the data must be going through the phone already, so they must have some filter in place that detects that fact and blocks further data, pending your decision.

Theres definitely something with the sim card. Used the sim from my mt4g and tethering would start and the automatically turn off a few seconds later. Activated the new sim and now it stays on but directs me to the site to purchse the service. Bummer.
We need to root this thing quickly.
Wonder if that's one of the reasons why tmo wants us to use the sim included.
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ronin4740 said:
...Tethering service at $14.95/month.
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Holy crap. I pay less than that for unlimited data. That's more than half of what a full data plan costs on T-Mobile. I take it not may people buy it. I'm guessing some of the custom ROMs will port over native tethering from the international SGS2. I wonder if T-Mobile flags tethering for people not on a legit tethering plan?

I tried to tether my Touchpad but got the T-Mobile page saying to add tethering. Gotta wait for root to get free tethering and utilize those fast data speeds!

i was doing some reserach on this and figured out how t-mobile does it. if you noticed when you turn on tethering a popup generates and after you enable it the 4g disappears for a bit, apparently in the software the phone disconnect your current apn, epc.tmobile.com and changes to another apn built into the phone software which checks for the 14.99 feature so yea sucks hopefully once root is established we can get around this. if you want to test this turn on wifi tether and then go to your apn and try to select the epc.tmobile apn bubble it will go on and then disconnect immediately

Has anyone tried any other APN's?
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Here in the USA, T-Mobile charges $9.95/m for tethering. I chatted with T-Mobile asking them how come I cannot tether (brought to their promo page) and I was told that T-Mobile will be enforcing the T&Cs regarding tethering... that is, it's not allowed unless you pay for it.
I told them that my Vibrant and G2x tethered just fine to what he responded that this will change in the near future. He said that with the introduction of the SGS2 they will start to clamp down on tethering without a tethering plan.
Mind you, this is one T-Mo CSR and I don't know if it will really be policy. However, it's pretty clear that this is the case at least for the SGS2.

Cradlepoint usage with WiFi Tether Router

I just tried to connect my S3 to my Cradlepoint MBR-1000. At first it did not work, but then started to. Connected thru usb straight from the phone as a modem, but the data count sent and received are not working in the wifi tether. Don't really care really, but I want to make sure I'm not flagging myself to Sprint, or worse, get a huge bill next month. About a week ago, I canceled my data card as I had not used it for over one year.
Anyone know if I'm good or not? I did a quick look for a router forum here but did not see anything. Thanks
Pick of info screen on the cradlepoint.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ws1818io8vumwt8/Screenshot%202014-07-19%2015.26.23_2.png

I also have a Netgear Nighthawk AC1900 still in the box if anyone knows how to share my cells with it. I live in the country and have to keep the phone in a Wilson's booster cradle. Nice out here in the woods, but has it's limits.

[Q] Can't tehter On My New T-Mobile LG G3

Hey guys, so i have the G3, tmobile, but I'm using a simple mobile service.
Problem is, my G3 Died and LG just repaired it, bought a BLU phone to use temporarily and it work fine tethering. And my Old G2 tether fine as well, so i don't think its service issue.
But before my G3 died and after it was fixed, I've never been able to get the hotspot to work. When my tablet connects to it, the WiFi icon always have an exclamation mark on it.
Any idea why this is happening ? I really need the WiFi at work. Can't tether it to my laptop either, will say "Unlimited connection".
Any help will be appreciated.
And my data plan is work, i have 10GB of high speed month, right now i've only used about 200mb of that, so its not because i don't have data plan.
Thanks

sizzorkay said:
Hey guys, so i have the G3, tmobile, but I'm using a simple mobile service.
Problem is, my G3 Died and LG just repaired it, bought a BLU phone to use temporarily and it work fine tethering. And my Old G2 tether fine as well, so i don't think its service issue.
But before my G3 died and after it was fixed, I've never been able to get the hotspot to work. When my tablet connects to it, the WiFi icon always have an exclamation mark on it.
Any idea why this is happening ? I really need the WiFi at work. Can't tether it to my laptop either, will say "Unlimited connection".
Any help will be appreciated.
And my data plan is work, i have 10GB of high speed month, right now i've only used about 200mb of that, so its not because i don't have data plan.
Thanks
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sounds like your wifi was damaged, id send that backand warranty that fast.

you think? or i need to root it in other to use my hotspot with simple mobile, since its a tmobile phone and i don't have tmobile service, perhaps that's why its blocked?

sizzorkay said:
you think? or i need to root it in other to use my hotspot with simple mobile, since its a tmobile phone and i don't have tmobile service, perhaps that's why its blocked?
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What app are you trying to root with? If you are trying to use t-mobile's "mobile hotspot"app or the Settings/Tethering & Networks/Mobile Hotspot... No, it is not going to work for you without a t-mobile data plan.
You might be able to find an app that allows tethering, but I think you'll need to be rooted.
I know that MetroPCS is a *itch to get free tethering with.

I'm afraid of rooting this device lol, don't wanna brick it, it died on me once, out of the blue, that's why i sent it in for repairs.
Yes, as you know, its a tmobile phone, but my service is simple mobile, while it was being repaired by LG, i bought a BLU phone for temporary use, and it tethers fine without root. And my old G2 tethers fine without root either, so I'm surprised this G3 is making that hard. So i can tether with other phones, even though its simple mobile service on a tmobile phones, so I'm thinking the G3 might be the one with the problem. And if I'm to root, you have any idea the best thread for that? Thanks for your time.

V35 + Cricket = no paid hotspot. WTF? help...

For years I have used a Leeco with a custom ROM as a hotspot for the Android head unit in my car. Last month, I got a warning about hotspot use and decided to go legit. The hotspot data got funky after the warning.
->I bought an LG V35 direct from Cricket, carrier unlocked
->I upgraded 5 family lines to the "Cricket More" plan that includes 15GB of hotspot data
But Cricket blocks all except a short list of phones from hotspot use even with a paid plan. I spent about an hour on the phone and they basically offered me nothing except to return the phone. No BYOD phones will work as a hotspot either except for iPhones.
What can I do? Has anyone else run into this? The custom ROM Leeco basically didn't work after the warning. Is anyone successfully using a V35 with a custom ROM as a hotspot?
Thanks for any help.
10/6/2019 Resolution for anyone else with a similar Problem:
1. it is difficult/impossible to bootloader unlock and root a LG V35. But that's not apparently the issue here.
2. Cricket only supports wifi hotspot on a short list of phones and all else including BYOD rooted/custom ROM devices are throttled to the point of uselessness even with a paid hotspot plan.
3. PDAnet works well but didn't work for my Android car headunit even after every known update.
4. I am using EasyConnect, a point-to-point screen mirroring app over USB, on the head unit and its OK. Not great but good enough to not trash Cricket and look for a new carrier.
Thanks!

Since no one else has responded, I'll make an attempt. You are going down a lot of paths without gathering any info in advance. The v35 cannot be bootloader unlocked without specialized tools. Even if you bootloader unlock, there is limited developer support. TWRP has not been ported to the v35 and there are no custom roms. Hopefully this situation will change, but the prospects are dimming as time goes by.
You still MIGHT be able to get hotspot working. I say might because I am not familiar with Cricket. Many carrier's phones check for a tethering subscription before allowing the hotspot to be turned on. The rom on the phone communicates with the carrier to make the check. That MAY be the issue you are facing since Cricket is an arm of AT&T. If so, you can get around it by cross-flashing to the open market / Google Fi rom which won't do a subscription check. I did that with my AT&T branded v35. It works great on StraightTalk. Browse around in the threads in the v35 forums and you will find information about how to cross-flash.
Now back to the MIGHT part. Some carriers, Verizon for example, can detect tethering. They throttle hotspot speeds for Unlimited plans. Presumably they could just block hotspot traffic. I have tried everything to get around throttling to no avail.

I might be able to help here. I have a rooted essential phone on the unlimited data + hotspot Cricket plan. I am able to activate hotspot but it is severely throttled (128k by the looks of it). No fixes, not even fixes that use root, has changed this.
The only thing I have gotten to work is pdanet app ($8 in playstore, after 30 days). With it I am able to connect my laptop/tablets to my data plan, all while hiding the usage from Cricket. I am not sure if this will work with your head unit or if it's viable since you kind of got to jump through some hoops to get the stuff working but just thought I would chime in here.

cmrntnnr said:
Since no one else has responded, I'll make an attempt. You are going down a lot of paths without gathering any info in advance. The v35 cannot be bootloader unlocked without specialized tools. Even if you bootloader unlock, there is limited developer support. TWRP has not been ported to the v35 and there are no custom roms. Hopefully this situation will change, but the prospects are dimming as time goes by.
You still MIGHT be able to get hotspot working. I say might because I am not familiar with Cricket. Many carrier's phones check for a tethering subscription before allowing the hotspot to be turned on. The rom on the phone communicates with the carrier to make the check. That MAY be the issue you are facing since Cricket is an arm of AT&T. If so, you can get around it by cross-flashing to the open market / Google Fi rom which won't do a subscription check. I did that with my AT&T branded v35. It works great on StraightTalk. Browse around in the threads in the v35 forums and you will find information about how to cross-flash.
Now back to the MIGHT part. Some carriers, Verizon for example, can detect tethering. They throttle hotspot speeds for Unlimited plans. Presumably they could just block hotspot traffic. I have tried everything to get around throttling to no avail.
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Thanks, there seems to be 2 things going on. 1st is the tether provisioning check. One can turn the provisioning check off (most custom ROMs have done this and it was what I did with my Leeco); or you can pay the carrier. For my v35 I paid the carrier and it still didn't work since there is some 2nd network check that isn't visible to me.. What runderekrun describes is exactly what happened to me.

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I might be able to help here. I have a rooted essential phone on the unlimited data + hotspot Cricket plan. I am able to activate hotspot but it is severely throttled (128k by the looks of it). No fixes, not even fixes that use root, has changed this.
The only thing I have gotten to work is pdanet app ($8 in playstore, after 30 days). With it I am able to connect my laptop/tablets to my data plan, all while hiding the usage from Cricket. I am not sure if this will work with your head unit or if it's viable since you kind of got to jump through some hoops to get the stuff working but just thought I would chime in here.
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Thanks, that is helpful. For me, I went years with no trouble and then got a warning text followed by the throttling. It was very, very slow.
I just tried PDAnet+ and it worked! Hurray! seems to need the app to act as a passthrough but I can live with that. I have not tried it on the head unit yet but it's fundamentally just a big Android tablet and PDAnet just worked on my tablet that is actually a tablet. Thanks!

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I might be able to help here. I have a rooted essential phone on the unlimited data + hotspot Cricket plan. I am able to activate hotspot but it is severely throttled (128k by the looks of it). No fixes, not even fixes that use root, has changed this.
The only thing I have gotten to work is pdanet app ($8 in playstore, after 30 days). With it I am able to connect my laptop/tablets to my data plan, all while hiding the usage from Cricket. I am not sure if this will work with your head unit or if it's viable since you kind of got to jump through some hoops to get the stuff working but just thought I would chime in here.
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PDAnet+ worked my S3 tablet and Windows laptop. But did *not* operate for my Android head unit. Any tips for figuring it out?