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So I have been racking my brain on what phone to buy my Nexus 6 is on its last leg and I just would like something new. So do you guys like your phone? Has it been worth it? I do like the look and I would probably be running an AOSP ROM of some kind but I'm more concerned with the Hardware? Have you guys had any major issues that would make it a deal breaker? So Otherwise I've always used the Nexus line but I just can't afford a Pixel so I'm kinda have been torn on what phone to buy a Nexus 6p, Moto G5, Honor 7, or maybe an HTC 10 or a U11 or a OnePlus 3t if I can find one cheap enough. I would like to keep it under 250$ 300$ max. Thx for all your help...
Also, development is important to me.:good::good:
NUGZZ420 said:
So I have been racking my brain on what phone to buy my Nexus 6 is on its last leg and I just would like something new. So do you guys like your -------------buy a Nexus 6p, Moto G5, Honor 7, or maybe an HTC 10 or a U11 or a OnePlus 3t if I can find one cheap enough. I would like to keep it under 250$ 300$ max. Thx for all your help...
Also, development is important to me.:good::good:
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Interested in development and custom ROMs!! then better stay away from this device. The scene might change once Oreo gets released but no one is sure when it will come.
P.S. There is no stock firmware yet for this device to restore.
If you don't need NFC or quick charge I believe you'll be happy with this phone. There's a few parameters I want in a phone and this has them---
#1---Battery life. I have NEVER had a phone with battery life like this one. I have had the Samsung note 5, Note 3, S4 active, LG g3 and a few others...even from day one there's no comparison. For example, yesterday I was on my phone texting throughout the super bowl (Philly here ) streaming MP3's, browsing the internet, etc. When I got home at midnight my phone was on 79%. Simply amazing.
#2---screen..it's essentially a 1080P screen and images are crisp and detailed. Compared to my Note 5, it's not as good side by side, but it's marginal. Still very acceptable
#3--- Speed and customization. Both are very acceptable and scrolling etc is smooth on most items but occasionally is quirky especially scrolling through group texts. Must be a bug or something.
#4---Photos are a little over saturated in daylight shots but I believe they're better than ALL of my previous Samsung phones. I have not really experimented with darker scenes and can't tell about that. Also, I've been using the standard setting for now and believe photos will get better as I adjust them
#5---form factor. It's a slim phone in every way and seems smaller but I guess being "bezel-less" makes it appear so...
Depending on your budget, you might consider the Huawei Mate 9. You can still buy new units and some vendors are starting to give steep discounts--B&H Photo sold their stock off at around $350 to make way for new models. Huawei's Oreo Beta has been rolled out to this phone. It's got a great Leica dual lens camera with a true B&W camera (check out the photos in the XDA Developers forum for the camera), NFC and a 4000MaH battery. I've given up waiting for Huawei to decide on whether they're really going to bring the Honor V10 to North America, the Mate 9 and Mate 10 (original, not Pro) top my list for a replacement phone. If you live in a large city, read Amazon reviews of the 7X. The lack of 2 WIFI bands is causing some people to return the 7X because WIFI congestion is keeping the phone from operating well on WIFI.
Well Thx everyone I am semi tempted to jump on one and I have looked at the Mate 9 some and I might try and pick one up before too long. I also might just grab a Nexus 6p I found one for 125$ and it seems fine and then maybe save up for something in the future. I am also reading that all kinds of phones are having proximity sensor problems after updating to Oreo and I think that's one of the problems my nexus 6 is having and I cant fix it no matter what I try from app to xposed apps. So IDK we will see thx for your help as well I still am halfway tempted to grab one of these just to give it a shot for the price it seems nice and I don't live in a huge city so I would hope my wifi would be ok.
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Well Thx everyone I am semi tempted to jump on one and I have looked at the Mate 9 some and I might try and pick one up before too long. I also might just grab a Nexus 6p I found one for 125$ and it seems fine and then maybe save up for something in the future. I am also reading that all kinds of phones are having proximity sensor problems after updating to Oreo and I think that's one of the problems my nexus 6 is having and I cant fix it no matter what I try from app to xposed apps. So IDK we will see thx for your help as well I still am halfway tempted to grab one of these just to give it a shot for the price it seems nice and I don't live in a huge city so I would hope my wifi would be ok.
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Good luck. All your options sound good. It's too bad Huawei decided to only include one WIFI band in the 7X, knowing they planned on marketing this in North America, where WIFI adoption is so widespread that 2 bands are essential to avoid congestion issues for all those in large urban areas. It will not be cost effective in the long run, given how many potential customers are affected by WIFI congestion, and clearly shows that a Chinese-dominated staff is making serious missteps in markets outside of China. Huawei desperately needs to hire western technical consulting companies and actually listen to them . They build beautiful and dependable phones that rival all their competitors. It's silly missteps like this that can mar their brand reputation. I think all the other cost cutting steps for the 7X are fine.
Having just 2.4ghz doesn't bother me much although I think they still should have added 5ghz. An old Lenovo K3 Note phone which I don't use anymore only had 2.4ghz also, however a custom rom allowed it to have 5ghz turned on. I wonder if it was hidden on this phone also.
The 2.4ghz on the Honor 7x connects to my router at half the speed my Samsung Galaxy Note 4 does.
Anyone here going for the OnePlus 6?
If it supported Verizon...I would no doubt. But, no such luck this time around either.
No! Going to keep my badboy Pixel XL 2!!
Hell no! I've got enough data mining in my life already! ?
Battery 3300 is very bad for a 6.28 inch screen.
Knowing the release of op 6, I bought pixel 2 xl very recently (slightly higher price paid than avengers edition of op6). OP camera software often so bad that we end up waiting and using gcam mods.
Camera, Battery life and display are better in pixel 2 xl.
Oneplus forum is a war zone no courtesy shown by many. Ofcourse we could use xda for it though.
srikanth.k39 said:
Battery 3300 is very bad for a 6.28 inch screen.
Knowing the release of op 6, I bought pixel 2 xl very recently (slightly higher price paid than avengers edition of op6). OP camera software often so bad that we end up waiting and using gcam mods.
Camera, Battery life and display are better in pixel 2 xl.
Oneplus forum is a war zone no courtesy shown by many. Ofcourse we could use xda for it though.
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3300 is fine and will actually yield great battery life because
1. The screen is still 1080p
2. SD 845 will be more efficient
I'm most likely getting one, but definitely keeping my 2 XL. The camera, as well as my current setup (Stock+Root+Flash Kernel+Xposed w/ GravityBox) is absolutely perfect for me.
Not to mention the amazing camera on the 2 XL! I'm sure the 6's camera will be great, but I doubt it will beat the 2 XL.
So all-in-all, I'll have both! If the camera performs at least close to the 2 XL, and when development picks up, then I'd probably consider selling my 2 XL down the road and using the 6 as my daily driver - at least until the Pixel 3 comes out lol
NO!
No. OnePlus is an awful company.
No, im not going back to oneplus .
From my personal experience: anyone coming from a OP to a Pixel will not buy another OP.
Yes, it has great specs, but try to profile the GPU and trace the dropped frames on every single screen and then compare to a Pixel. Having the latest SOC and a 20MP+16MP camera. 8GB of Ram... all that means little when their software is an absolute mess and has basically 0 polish.
This might be an odd sentence but here's the bottom line:
You're paying 550€ for a phone that has the specs of a 850€ phone but getting the performance of a 550€ phone. That's why it doesn't cost 850€: you're not getting the same experience you get on a Pixel and it's not even remotely close.
Question is why would i?
Sent from my Google Pixel 2 XL using XDA Labs
rickysidhu_ said:
3300 is fine and will actually yield great battery life because
1. The screen is still 1080p
2. SD 845 will be more efficient
I'm most likely getting one, but definitely keeping my 2 XL. The camera, as well as my current setup (Stock+Root+Flash Kernel+Xposed w/ GravityBox) is absolutely perfect for me.
Not to mention the amazing camera on the 2 XL! I'm sure the 6's camera will be great, but I doubt it will beat the 2 XL.
So all-in-all, I'll have both! If the camera performs at least close to the 2 XL, and when development picks up, then I'd probably consider selling my 2 XL down the road and using the 6 as my daily driver - at least until the Pixel 3 comes out lol
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Nice.
I was the owner of OP 5T before as daily driver.
I was very less options left at that time coming from iphone to android. I have more restrictions, I needed phone with work profile (so rooting has to be given up). I badly needed a dual aim for daily driver. S8+ fingerprint placement I hated. So chose OP5T. Camera software was very bad the default one. Tired of exploring multiple gcam modes etc... The famous oil painting effect on pics has not been resolved for months on 5T when I owned.
My current set up is S9+ as daily driver (work phone) just because of dual sim support. Keeping pixel 2 XL as secondary one (most of my personal use occasional work email check) Neither Pixel nor iphone can become my primary until dual sim versions released though with my restrictions.
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Nice.
I was the owner of OP 5T before as daily driver.
I was very less options left at that time coming from iphone to android. I have more restrictions, I needed phone with work profile (so rooting has to be given up). I badly needed a dual aim for daily driver. S8+ fingerprint placement I hated. So chose OP5T. Camera software was very bad the default one. Tired of exploring multiple gcam modes etc... The famous oil painting effect on pics has not been resolved for months on 5T when I owned.
My current set up is S9+ as daily driver (work phone) just because of dual sim support. Keeping pixel 2 XL as secondary one (most of my personal use occasional work email check) Neither Pixel nor iphone can become my primary until dual sim versions released though with my restrictions.
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Yeah I didn't like my 5T when I had it. Sold it very quickly. My 5 on the other hand was strangely better, even though it came before the 5T.
I also was not happy about the camera issues like you mentioned + the vibration motor felt very cheap.
I like how much custom development is available for those devices, which is a big reason why I'm most likely going to buy it and just switch between my 2 XL and that whenever I feel like it.
I've never had Samsungs though but if it's treating you well, why not continue using it
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Yes, it has great specs, but try to profile the GPU and trace the dropped frames on every single screen and then compare to a Pixel. Having the latest SOC and a 20MP+16MP camera. 8GB of Ram... all that means little when their software is an absolute mess and has basically 0 polish.
You're paying 550€ for a phone that has the specs of a 850€ phone but getting the performance of a 550€ phone. That's why it doesn't cost 850€: you're not getting the same experience you get on a Pixel and it's not even remotely close.
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I said this on a portal discussion regarding the release of the 5T, and it bears repeating here. For a company with "Never Settle" as its slogan, OnePlus does an awful lot of "settling", i.e. compromising, on the most important part [the display] of a smartphone. The display was why the OP5T never factored into my buying choices. The OP6 isn't any better, as it's still not quad HD like on flagship devices. So for yet another year OnePlus will simply be a pretender to the throne.
If OnePlus really wants to play with the big boys, they need to stop compromising and go all out. Make a product that will truly knock people's socks off.
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Yeah I didn't like my 5T when I had it. Sold it very quickly. My 5 on the other hand was strangely better, even though it came before the 5T.
I also was not happy about the camera issues like you mentioned + the vibration motor felt very cheap.
I like how much custom development is available for those devices, which is a big reason why I'm most likely going to buy it and just switch between my 2 XL and that whenever I feel like it.
I've never had Samsungs though but if it's treating you well, why not continue using it
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Due to no dual sim support, I had to live with samsung. S9+ has better camera, beauty and display though battery life is worse compare to pixel 2 xl even with full hd+ we all know it is due to bloatware services/apps.
Heard rumours that Apple is also considering dual sim versions for next iPhone, hope google do consider dual sim versions.
By the way I did try huawei honor v10 and 20 pro. Unfortunately work profile issues and bad support made me avoid them completely.
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No. OnePlus is an awful company.
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and liars. I got OP5 and returned, because camera was terrible, but they talked about "clearer photos". They lied in performance test.....for me they bad reputation company
FrankBullitt said:
From my personal experience: anyone coming from a OP to a Pixel will not buy another OP.
Yes, it has great specs, but try to profile the GPU and trace the dropped frames on every single screen and then compare to a Pixel. Having the latest SOC and a 20MP+16MP camera. 8GB of Ram... all that means little when their software is an absolute mess and has basically 0 polish.
This might be an odd sentence but here's the bottom line:
You're paying 550€ for a phone that has the specs of a 850€ phone but getting the performance of a 550€ phone. That's why it doesn't cost 850€: you're not getting the same experience you get on a Pixel and it's not even remotely close.
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Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
I said this on a portal discussion regarding the release of the 5T, and it bears repeating here. For a company with "Never Settle" as its slogan, OnePlus does an awful lot of "settling", i.e. compromising, on the most important part [the display] of a smartphone. The display was why the OP5T never factored into my buying choices. The OP6 isn't any better, as it's still not quad HD like on flagship devices. So for yet another year OnePlus will simply be a pretender to the throne.
If OnePlus really wants to play with the big boys, they need to stop compromising and go all out. Make a product that will truly knock people's socks off.
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Frank: The OnePlus 5T was the fastest phone on the market until the S9+ came out and gave it a run for its money. Then the 6 came out and it is now the fastest/best performing device on the market. And OxygenOS is amazing, clean, and adds useful features (like face unlock that's actually good). Plus OnePlus added in over 200 optimizations to make it even better. Look it up. There are tons of videos to prove it's faster and smoother. Your comment has no grounds.
Strephon: How can you say anything about the display of a phone when defending the Pixel 2 XL? It literally had a huge scandal, and still isn't fixed. The normal resolution gives it an edge in battery life, and overall performance. The 27" monitor I'm typing this on is 1080p and at 2 feet away is no issue. You're telling me a 6 inch phone with that resolution is a problem? Plus the Amoled OnePlus uses is much better quality compared to the Pixel's lackluster LG panel. I guess I shouldn't expect anything less from the Pixel forum, but come on, lose the blinders, people.
Had 3 devices from OP so far (OPO, OP5 and OP5T) and still use them but not going to get another one anymore. Why? Because Pixel devices is what suits me the best... top hardware with top software.
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Strephon: How can you say anything about the display of a phone when defending the Pixel 2 XL? It literally had a huge scandal, and still isn't fixed. The normal resolution gives it an edge in battery life, and overall performance. The 27" monitor I'm typing this on is 1080p and at 2 feet away is no issue. You're telling me a 6 inch phone with that resolution is a problem? Plus the Amoled OnePlus uses is much better quality compared to the Pixel's lackluster LG panel. I guess I shouldn't expect anything less from the Pixel forum, but come on, lose the blinders, people.
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The quoted post above is sponsored by OnePlus, where "Never Settle" is an oxymoron.
You mentioned us P2XL owners having blinders on when nothing could be further from the truth. While we may have unwanted press over non-issues such as blue shifting and color profiles, at least our devices were assembled with the screens pointed in the right direction, unlike the OP5T.
Ignoring the fact that people rarely view their devices at the extreme angles required for the blue shift to be noticeable, the phenomenon is inherent in ALL AMOLED displays. My Galaxy S4 has it. My Nexus 6 has it. My P2XL has it. Of the three the S4, having an early AMOLED screen, has blue shift to a greater degree than either my Nexus 6 or my P2XL.
The only reason blue shift and the color profile were even mentioned is to drive page views. As for the color profile non-issue, I use the original color profile and not the boosted or saturated modes. No problems here, and in fact I enjoy the color accuracy.
OnePlus having a FHD screen is not a problem if you're not used to anything else. But a flagship device has a QHD display, period. What OnePlus has done here is what they have always done: compromise. When they stop, perhaps then we'll take notice.
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Frank: The OnePlus 5T was the fastest phone on the market until the S9+ came out and gave it a run for its money. Then the 6 came out and it is now the fastest/best performing device on the market. And OxygenOS is amazing, clean, and adds useful features (like face unlock that's actually good). Plus OnePlus added in over 200 optimizations to make it even better. Look it up. There are tons of videos to prove it's faster and smoother. Your comment has no grounds.
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Yes, my comments have no ground.
https://www.reddit.com/r/oneplus/co...soon_discontinuing_development_i_wont/dyi9wh0
It's not just the camera; everything on the Pixel 2 is way, way more polished than anything that OnePlus (and I on my own) could ever make.
As much as I hate to admit it, my custom ROMs can't touch the stock ROM on the Pixel 2 in terms of polish and performance. Lately I've been doing more scientific performance assessments on Android (for the sake of research with a professor at my university), instead of just using the phone and thinking, "Seems good to me!," and the results I pulled off the Pixel 2 absolutely crush the results I pulled from stock LineageOS 15.1 on the 3T. It is very difficult to get frame drops while playing with the Pixel 2, whereas I instantly recorded frame drops galore on the 3T. This has been a bit of a wakeup call to me in that I need to reevaluate my ideology and follow a more scientific strategy in optimizing Android on a phone (i.e., using the dozens of test suites Google has built for Android). The bugs that bother users the most are the ones that tend to happen a small percentage of the time (like random reboots), and the Pixel 2 has clearly been optimized to the point where most of those rare bugs are nonexistent (e.g., frames are rarely dropped).
When I ran one of Google's UI performance test apps on the Pixel 2 against my LineageOS 14.1 ROM on the 3T, my ROM dropped frames nonstop (according to this tool) while the Pixel 2 dropped zero frames...
Deep down, I'm a kernel developer and that's where I excel. I'd rather stick to what I know (and enjoy) with kernel hacking and leave the pain of polishing userspace to Google's army of engineers.
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You were saying something about oneplus, weren't you?
I owned oneplus phones, I owned Nexus, I own a Pixel2XL. Tell me about daily performance again, please.
im thinking about buying the 9 pro but at has been out for a while should i just wait or should i pull the trigger need some advice
If you want it to install roms forget it, the developers have it very abandoned. For example, no developer has compiled a beta version for Android 12, But if you want to use it normally, I really recommend the 9 more because the 9 Pro with the Rom stock the battery is ****.
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If you want it to install roms forget it, the developers have it very abandoned. For example, no developer has compiled a beta version for Android 12, But if you want to use it normally, I really recommend the 9 more because the 9 Pro with the Rom stock the battery is ****.
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yea im big on roms i might wait for a good deal on a one plus 8pro
As with most other devices, A12 roms are unlikely to be available until after the OOS 12 ROM is released (GA, not Beta).
There are lots of good A11 ROMs out there, and the phone itself (LE2125) is excellent. The stock OOS 11 is also very very good.
But hey, doesn't affect me one way or another what phone/ROM you use. I'm very happy with what I have!
Cheers
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If you want it to install roms forget it, the developers have it very abandoned. For example, no developer has compiled a beta version for Android 12, But if you want to use it normally, I really recommend the 9 more because the 9 Pro with the Rom stock the battery is ****.
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A12 OOS official isn't out yet and most devs actually prefer to use finished sources before releasing anything to public. I'm sure some are building ROM's off the beta builds for testing but not releasing them. Also, only some people seem to have issues with the battery, heat, etc. I (and others) have no such issues with our 9pros even on stock OOS. I would suggest the phone to anyone honestly.
COCODRILO45 said:
im thinking about buying the 9 pro but at has been out for a while should i just wait or should i pull the trigger need some advice
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DON'T...
Go for pixel 6pro...
Wait for what ? OnePlus 10 ?
OnePlus 8 pro Oxygen OS too will get worse because of google BS.
About roms look in Development section.
COCODRILO45 said:
im thinking about buying the 9 pro but at has been out for a while should i just wait or should i pull the trigger need some advice
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Been using the device for over 3 months and can confidently say that nothing makes the device worth the price. The phone heats up with general use. Battery life is pretty ordinary. Not much into camera, screen and performance are the only saving grace.
If I was into ROMs, I would buy a device with the best price to specs ratio like mi 11 series or ROG 5 or even the standard 9 and upcoming 9RT. But avoid the 9 pro at all cost.
The answer for you will depend on your priorities ;-)
I needed a phone recently and found an open box 9 Pro on ebay within my budget. I wouldn't have bought this phone at msrp. My experience has overall been positive. The only time I've overheated the phone was transferring about 80 GB from my old phone before realizing both were on a heat soaked surface. Putting the phone where it could breathe resolved this. Even with extended gaming sessions, the phone has run cool since. Battery life more than meets my daily needs. PD support is ideal as that's what my pc uses at work, so I don't worry about carrying a charger. A 10 min top up at 45W from PD or 65W from the stock charger is a game changer. Going from 20-90% in ~12 mins on the included charger while making coffee & breakfast is great!
Note on battery life: I tend to power off my device for a few mins a couple times each month for consistency. Especially after the primary Google Assistant app updates (this one).
I'm a photography enthusiast and have been generally happy with the 9 Pro IQ. If you do end up getting this phone or the OP9, take some time to review the different options (like Photo, Pro, Portrait) and settings - they are extensive and can be fine tuned for your use case. Be sure to take some test shots to dial this in.
The biggest shortcoming is the selfie cam, which has low dynamic range, easily washing out. I installed gcam MGC by BSG (currently v8.1.101) and it takes much better selfie shots. For the rear facing sensors, the stock camera app vs. gcam HDR+ generally show parity.
My partner has a Pixel 5 so using her phone for selfies is also an option. I prefer the FOV on the OP tho.
The screen is gorgeous! I tried 60 hz vs 120 hz with lpto and noted little effect on battery life, so have remained on the latter. I've found FHD+ meets my needs as the screen size shows little benefit bumping up to QHD+. I appreciate the stock Screen Calibration options and find Advanced > AMOLED Wide Gamut gives the color palette I prefer.
Two things requiring workarounds for my use:
a) My previous phone had a notification light, which I used more than I realized. Rather than turn the screen on periodically, I enabled the Always on Display during my waking hours, problem solved.
b) Historically I've traveled internationally for work, so having dual sims has been a must. It looks like there is work from XDA devs underway to enable this if OP doesn't themselves. Otherwise my partner has an old mobile hotspot from her job I'll commandeer when/if work travel resumes.
Reviews that helped me make an informed decision:
o XDA Devs : of course!
o Notebookcheck
https://www.notebookcheck.net/OnePl...end-phone-charges-twice-as-fast.530399.0.html
o GSM Arena review and comparison to other phones
https://www.gsmarena.com/oneplus_9_pro-10806.php
o Photography Blog
https://www.photographyblog.com/reviews/oneplus_9_pro_review
o Danny Winget Youtube firmware comparison
Hope this helps!
In a lot of ways, the OnePlus 9 Pro is a great phone, with a super-smooth screen, the fastest wired and wireless charging, pleasant software, with a solid long-term update commitment. I even enjoy the camera.
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Been using the device for over 3 months and can confidently say that nothing makes the device worth the price. The phone heats up with general use. Battery life is pretty ordinary. Not much into camera, screen and performance are the only saving grace.
If I was into ROMs, I would buy a device with the best price to specs ratio like mi 11 series or ROG 5 or even the standard 9 and upcoming 9RT. But avoid the 9 pro at all cost.
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Horrible advice
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Horrible advice
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In hindsight; you may be right.
But, still, thermal issues are for sure my biggest gripe.
Besides, yeah, I do feel it is a good device, but getting it over Oneplus 9 or 9RT would depend on the user's preferences.
If your into rooting and modding, warp charging then yes. If you don't root then get a Pixel 6 Pro.
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DON'T...
Go for pixel 6pro...
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Is it available for sale?
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If your into rooting and modding, warp charging then yes. If you don't root then get a Pixel 6 Pro.
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It's better to wait for Pixel 6 and see what it brings and see real time performance and then choose
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It's better to wait for Pixel 6 and see what it brings and see real time performance and then choose
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Performance will be close at worst but when it comes to software and features and picture quality the Pixel 6 is on a whole different level. That's just my opinion.
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Performance will be close at worst but when it comes to software and features and picture quality the Pixel 6 is on a whole different level. That's just my opinion.
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Nobody really knows yet. Since Pixel 6 series is using a new in-house cpu (Tensor) and there are no reviews out yet (product ships on 10/28) so no one really knows what it's going to really perform like. I also would be curious if/how easy it will be to root or unlock bootloader since it's a totally different CPU architecture.
I came from a OnePlus 3T. Overall I think this phone is great, the camera and functionality is slick. I also appreciate that having the phone on max performance levels, screen brightness and sync enabled will impact the battery.
I like that it has an active community here, and on the OnePlus forums. I've logged a few bugs and evidenced how to recreate them. Am I unhappy about the companies communication style, not being open about throttling etc, yes. However I understand that people are human and make mistakes. It's still a young device released 6 months ago. Let's see where we are in a year from now
COCODRILO45 said:
yea im big on roms i might wait for a good deal on a one plus 8pro
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Funny enough, I was thinking recently if I should get the 8 pro as well. Specifically for rooting/custom ROMs. I'm currently using a OP6T (rooted with CrDroid ROM), I can literally get the 8 Pro for free with a screen protector + case and some cash left from my £500 Amazon giftcard. But I just don't know if I should get a 8 pro or not and I can't justify the purchase tbh
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yea im big on roms i might wait for a good deal on a one plus 8pro
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Be careful. I am not able to send text msgs randomly I am on Sprint/T-Mobile and nothing works. It's why I'm trying to get the 9 pro.
Hi everyone, so i have a Redmi Note 9 Pro Max, and while it is a decent phone, MIUI and the various other issues of this phone made me lose trust in Xiaomi/Redmi and i want to upgrade to a more premium brand/phone.
my options are:
Pixel 6 pro
iphone 13 pro
Oppo Reno 5 Pro
wait for pixel 7 pro
S21 Ultra ( i dislike the s22 Ultra look/grip)
Oneplus 10 pro NOPE
I don't really game on my phone, but battery longevity and top notch performance with best cameras are my requirements but since am listing all premium phones i doubt any will have issues in those points right?
i was thinking of just going for an Iphone 13 Pro, but the switch from android to apple is worrisome as am used to the freedom of customization that Android allows, i am also a Flutter developer and debugging apps on android is much quicker/easier than on iOS, but i can't help but see the iphone 13 series just an all around premium, the look, the grip, its very different.
But if i want to go for a Pixel, shall i just wait for Pixel 7 pro when its released? or just get Pixel 6 Pro
Am very undecided...
If you don't mind oxygenos get the op10pro otherwise get a google pixel 6 pro if I'm not mistaken it's on sale right now
spart0n said:
If you don't mind oxygenos get the op10pro otherwise get a google pixel 6 pro if I'm not mistaken it's on sale right now
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Thank you for your response,
I've never had experience with oxygenos, is it comparable to MIUI?
Also doesn't the pixel 6 pro have several issues with hardware since the pixel 6 pro is the first phone to use googles in-house processor?
I am curious to see what the Nothing Phone delivers.....should be announced soon...
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Thank you for your response,
I've never had experience with oxygenos, isn't comparable to MIUI?
Also doesn't the pixel 6 pro have several issues with hardware since the pixel 6 pro is the first phone to use googles in-house processor?
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I've had a p6p and my wife has a p6 and we've had zero problems with them. The problems seem to be a hit or miss. And oxygenos is almost clean android
Start at the 7 minute mark for the pertinent content.
android_dan said:
Start at the 7 minute mark for the pertinent content.
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Jeeesus,i can see it in the thumbnail but i saw the video anyway... ye oneplus out!!!
didn't know the Oneplus 10 pro had a new feature: DIY foldable phone!
simlol12 said:
Hi everyone, so i have a Redmi Note 9 Pro Max, and while it is a decent phone, MIUI and the various other issues of this phone made me lose trust in Xiaomi/Redmi and i want to upgrade to a more premium brand/phone.
my options are:
Pixel 6 pro
iphone 13 pro
Oppo Reno 5 Pro
wait for pixel 7 pro
S21 Ultra ( i dislike the s22 Ultra look/grip)
Oneplus 10 pro
I don't really game on my phone, but battery longevity and top notch performance with best cameras are my requirements but since am listing all premium phones i doubt any will have issues in those points right?
i was thinking of just going for an Iphone 13 Pro, but the switch from android to apple is worrisome as am used to the freedom of customization that Android allows, i am also a Flutter developer and debugging apps on android is much quicker/easier than on iOS, but i can't help but see the iphone 13 series just an all around premium, the look, the grip, its very different.
But if i want to go for a Pixel, shall i just wait for Pixel 7 pro when its released? or just get Pixel 6 Pro
Am very undecided...
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I have Pixel 6 Pro now and unfortunately, I am one of those who has many bugs. I switched to the iPhone 13 Pro for a few days and now using the OnePlus 8T until the OnePlus 10 is released. I tried a few iPhones for a week and every time I go back to Android.
ram4ufriends said:
I have Pixel 6 Pro now and unfortunately, I am one of those who has many bugs. I switched to the iPhone 13 Pro for a few days and now using the OnePlus 8T until the OnePlus 10 is released. I tried a few iPhones for a week and every time I go back to Android.
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What made you switch back from Iphone? and what kind of issues did you experience with p6p?
Purchase the Pixel from Google and you have two weeks to return it. Surly by then you can decide yay or nay.
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What made you switch back from Iphone? and what kind of issues did you experience with p6p?
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I like the clean android experience, so Pixel and OnePlus are my options. With Pixel 6 Pro bugs and OnePlus planning to retire OxygenOS, I wanted to check if I can survive iPhone and I couldn't. I am planning to flash Evolution X ROM on my OnePlus 8T and try it out for few days.
Pixel 6 Pro Bugs:
Missed calls (Sometimes I don't get a call when my friends try reaching me, no voice mail, no missed call. Happens after a factory reset as well. I miss important calls as well)
Consistent Bluetooth disconnection from my car.
Occasional frame drops. Animations are smooth on Pixel 6 Pro, but it has occasional frame drops.
Finicky fingerprint.
iPhone issues for me:
Terrible notifications management
No YouTube Vanced
Screen TIme bug and a few other issues
it is up to you to decide. we cant decide what phone is best for you as we all look at phone differently. you be your own judge.
ram4ufriends said:
I like the clean android experience, so Pixel and OnePlus are my options. With Pixel 6 Pro bugs and OnePlus planning to retire OxygenOS, I wanted to check if I can survive iPhone and I couldn't. I am planning to flash Evolution X ROM on my OnePlus 8T and try it out for few days.
Pixel 6 Pro Bugs:
Missed calls (Sometimes I don't get a call when my friends try reaching me, no voice mail, no missed call. Happens after a factory reset as well. I miss important calls as well)
Consistent Bluetooth disconnection from my car.
Occasional frame drops. Animations are smooth on Pixel 6 Pro, but it has occasional frame drops.
Finicky fingerprint.
iPhone issues for me:
Terrible notifications management
No YouTube Vanced
Screen TIme bug and a few other issues
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ram4ufriends said:
I like the clean android experience, so Pixel and OnePlus are my options. With Pixel 6 Pro bugs and OnePlus planning to retire OxygenOS, I wanted to check if I can survive iPhone and I couldn't. I am planning to flash Evolution X ROM on my OnePlus 8T and try it out for few days.
Pixel 6 Pro Bugs:
Missed calls (Sometimes I don't get a call when my friends try reaching me, no voice mail, no missed call. Happens after a factory reset as well. I miss important calls as well)
Consistent Bluetooth disconnection from my car.
Occasional frame drops. Animations are smooth on Pixel 6 Pro, but it has occasional frame drops.
Finicky fingerprint.
iPhone issues for me:
Terrible notifications management
No YouTube Vanced
Screen TIme bug and a few other issues
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Well, it sounds like mostly software bugs, hopefully they'll patch em.
Oh man you're right. No YouTube Vanced oof...
Well, you ARE on a google pixel 6 forum...can't imagine what responses you will get. LOL
If you want something that just works and you use it in the way it was designed then the iPhone is a good candidate. If you want something that you can get to how you want it to look the the Pixel 6 Pro would still be my pick of Android devices.
Jumped from OnePlus as they have massively dropped the ball. Their devices are no longer cheap and their software has become very buggy and even slower to get updated.
I'm having the P6P and honestly I'm thinking of switching to samsung.
The phone is good don't get me wrong, but the battery life for me has been quite bad, considering always high mobile network battery drain(40% rn, and no workaround has helped me with that).
It falls down to your preference of which android skin you prefer the most, all of them are great in every requirement that you need, iphone 13pm wins the battery for sure, pixel is better on cameras if you're the kind of people that wants absolutely the most details possible on any level(It's better but not by a lot comparing to other phones).
Performance wise you won't notice difference between any of those, it can be again just the OS being laggy.
I don't know pixel just feels to simple for me, there's not a lot of customization in here, so I've had to root to gain more of what I want from a phone, install the addon features module for that and a couple of others.
So far yes, you can get lucky with the unit, and if you don't mind that pixel is a little bit more simple(kind of like iphone) in comparison with others, you can go for it.
The only 2 things that I hugely dislike about this phone is the battery life and just the simple OS, but I knew what I was going for so it's my fault that I've chose a phone with such limited and simple amount of settings.
I would wait for next samsung/pixel for now, and about current pixel, I cannot say for sure since I'm struggling with battery life, so cannot recommend a phone that I have problems with myself.
The /oneplus/oppo just don't cut it because of their android skins, iphone is better surely, but that's the phone that you'd want if you just want to buy it and use it without thinking about anything else.
I'd say wait and see what the P7P offers if you're not in a rush. Chances are it's going to just be a minor bump compared to the 6, as mobile tech has pretty much reached a peak for the time being. Unless the 2nd gen Tensor completely blows away the 1st gen, but even then probably won't see much difference in terms of every day usage. You could then just grab the p6p, which will probably have a nice discount by that time.
ram4ufriends said:
Pixel 6 Pro Bugs:
Missed calls (Sometimes I don't get a call when my friends try reaching me, no voice mail, no missed call. Happens after a factory reset as well. I miss important calls as well)
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That is actually an issue on the network side, not the phone. Basically the issue is that you connect to one network for data, and it needs to switch to another network for voice. Sometimes that network carrying voice is just not available and the call breaks. For example, if you have an LTE network that doesn't support VoLTE, then when a call comes in it has to switch down to HSPA. I've heard that "5G" networks are in a non-voice state, so they need to fall down to VoLTE or HSPA for a call. The solution is to lock your phone into a network that supports both data and voice. Like LTE with VoLTE enabled.
I had this problem *all the time* with my Pixel 2XL, which my network never authorized for VoLTE.
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Consistent Bluetooth disconnection from my car.
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That was DEFINITELY a problem for a while, but it was a software issue that has been fixed.
ram4ufriends said:
Occasional frame drops. Animations are smooth on Pixel 6 Pro, but it has occasional frame drops.
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Um, hardly worth mentioning.
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Finicky fingerprint.
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Fingerprint is probably not a good unlock method anyway, since it isn't clear if it is protected by the US 5th amendment or similar anti-self-incrimination laws in countries outside the US. GrapheneOS offers a hybrid unlock method that fully disables fingerprint on the lockscreen, but leaves it enabled for other places within the OS.
lesafijndt said:
I'm having the P6P and honestly I'm thinking of switching to samsung.
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Heh, P6P *is a samsuck*. Yes, I'm serious. Its an Exynos SoC+modem with a gooble sticker stuck onto it.
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Heh, P6P *is a samsuck*. Yes, I'm serious. Its an Exynos SoC+modem with a gooble sticker stuck onto it.
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Well, when it comes to hardware part sort of, but not so on software side and features/possibilities
I'm about to buy a new device, but still wondering is the Pixel 6 Pro worth the money in 2023, my friends and some ppl say the Pixel 6 is more worthy, or try Pixel 7 as the Pixel 6 series doesn't have many ROM yet. What do you guys think?
6pro or 7pro, take your pick, they're pretty close to the same.
Screen is lesser on non-pro, as well as memory, and camera.
I have a 7 Pro and the wife a 6 Pro. I like the 6 Pro build quality a little better so I would go with that.
I can afford Pixel 6 Pro for now, the Pixel 7 Pro still have a pretty high price in my country so I need to wait a little more
Honestly both phones are pretty bad... P6 has modem issues, so of you like consistent data and the ability to make calls then it might not be the phone for you. The P7, fixed the modem issues, but is having back glass issues. So either you have a crappy "phone" that is solid build or a good "phone" with crappy build quality.
I don't recommend you any pixel...
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Honestly both phones are pretty bad... P6 has modem issues, so of you like consistent data and the ability to make calls then it might not be the phone for you. The P7, fixed the modem issues, but is having back glass issues. So either you have a crappy "phone" that is solid build or a good "phone" with crappy build quality.
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That sounds like a problem to me. How about 4G/5G on the P6P?
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I don't recommend you any pixel...
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I really don't want to jump back to Xiaomi, nether iPhones. I don't really like Bixby on Samsungs and their price are still pretty high on my country.
The Pixel 4XL was the best deal for me tho, but its EOL so I'm thinking for a jump
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That sounds like a problem to me. How about 4G/5G on the P6P?
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Yea 4g/5g is the main issue on the P6P, the whole Pixel 6 line uses the same modem. Lots of reports of issues if you look online.
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Yea 4g/5g is the main issue on the P6P, the whole Pixel 6 line uses the same modem. Lots of reports of issues if you look online.
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Thank you very much, I just found some on Reddit. Thats sucks
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I really don't want to jump back to Xiaomi, nether iPhones. I don't really like Bixby on Samsungs and their price are still pretty high on my country.
The Pixel 4XL was the best deal for me tho, but its EOL so I'm thinking for a jump
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You don't have to use Bixby if you buy a Samsung Galaxy phone. If it isn't Pixel 5 or older which come with unlimited Google Photos storage (even if Storage Saver quality), I would get a Samsung/ Vivo/ iQOO or OnePlus phone.
The P6P is an absolute beast of a phone, especially considering you can get the phone sub $300 right now if you are in the US. And to be completely honest outside of privacy concerns there aren't really too many reasons to run a custom ROM on the phone as you can just root it and change next to whatever you want. I currently use 3C Tools (to manage my battery and flash custom boot up screens but there is much more you can do), AOSP Mods and Pixel Launcher Mods (to customize the UI and tweak things like the lock screen and notification panel), 2 Button Gesture Restore LSposed Module, Adaway to block ads, the Call recording Magisk module, Fox;s Magis Module Manager (for the built in repo) and MacroDroid to force my phone into 4G when at my friends house because 5G doesn't work worth crap and the only way to have decent battery life at his house is using MacroDroid to identify the towers at his house and force my phone into 4G.
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The P6P is an absolute beast of a phone, especially considering you can get the phone sub $300 right now if you are in the US. And to be completely honest outside of privacy concerns there aren't really too many reasons to run a custom ROM on the phone as you can just root it and change next to whatever you want. I currently use 3C Tools (to manage my battery and flash custom boot up screens but there is much more you can do), AOSP Mods and Pixel Launcher Mods (to customize the UI and tweak things like the lock screen and notification panel), 2 Button Gesture Restore LSposed Module, Adaway to block ads, the Call recording Magisk module, Fox;s Magis Module Manager (for the built in repo) and MacroDroid to force my phone into 4G when at my friends house because 5G doesn't work worth crap and the only way to have decent battery life at his house is using MacroDroid to identify the towers at his house and force my phone into 4G.
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thank you thank you
TheMystic said:
You don't have to use Bixby if you buy a Samsung Galaxy phone. If it isn't Pixel 5 or older which come with unlimited Google Photos storage (even if Storage Saver quality), I would get a Samsung/ Vivo/ iQOO or OnePlus phone.
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I mean, except for Pixel, Mi13, Samsungs or these lastest OnePlus, the rest are not my taste anymore, but they come with a pretty high price so I thought P6P was the best for me, I will check on the Samsungs maybe or iPhone would be a good option
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I mean, except for Pixel, Mi13, Samsungs or these lastest OnePlus, the rest are not my taste anymore, but they come with a pretty high price so I thought P6P was the best for me, I will check on the Samsungs maybe or iPhone would be a good option
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Xiaomi doesn't allow gesture navigation with 3rd party launchers. This alone is a deal breaker for me as I have no interest in installing custom ROMs or rooting my phone anymore.
I have phones from several brands (except Pixel) and overall, I'll choose Samsung as my primary phone because of their cameras and also the software experience (with GoodLock modules installed).
OOS 12 & 13 have some pretty annoying things about them. FunTouch OS13 on iQOO and Vivo phones is better.
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Honestly both phones are pretty bad... P6 has modem issues, so of you like consistent data and the ability to make calls then it might not be the phone for you. The P7, fixed the modem issues, but is having back glass issues. So either you have a crappy "phone" that is solid build or a good "phone" with crappy build quality.
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Some say the problem would be fixed with software updates. And i don't see any aosp users complaining about this issues. Is it still going on right now. I'm planing for 6 pro but this connection issue is holding me back.
I've had the P6P for over a year. Just unlocked the bootloader a few months ago. I remember after getting the phone, coming from a OnePlus 7 pro, the signal strength was weak in many areas and data recovery was slow to non-existent. Those problems still exist with AOSP roms, and 1 year later. I've gotten used to it now but it still doesn't make it okay
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Xiaomi doesn't allow gesture navigation with 3rd party launchers. This alone is a deal breaker for me as I have no interest in installing custom ROMs or rooting my phone anymore.
I have phones from several brands (except Pixel) and overall, I'll choose Samsung as my primary phone because of their cameras and also the software experience (with GoodLock modules installed).
OOS 12 & 13 have some pretty annoying things about them. FunTouch OS13 on iQOO and Vivo phones is better.
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Thank you for your option, i will reconsider a bit...
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I've had the P6P for over a year. Just unlocked the bootloader a few months ago. I remember after getting the phone, coming from a OnePlus 7 pro, the signal strength was weak in many areas and data recovery was slow to non-existent. Those problems still exist with AOSP roms, and 1 year later. I've gotten used to it now but it still doesn't make it okay
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That's a really deal breaker
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Thank you for your option, i will reconsider a bit...
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I have done a comparison of software features by OEM. It is not complete as I don't have devices from every brand. But it can still be useful. Check it out:
Comparing Android 13 features of different OEMs
In this post, I'm comparing the features available on Android 13 from different OEMs as of the end of 2022. Since some OEMs offer a different set of features for their budget devices, not all features available on one device will be available on...
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