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Anyone having any freeze and black screen problem when resuming high end game like Asphalt Xtreme from recent apps ? Often facing this annoying issue..please respond..
not for me.. maybe u have too many apps and other crap hogging your memory space... does ur phone gets hot hot??? then maybeur cpu is throttling.
id clean up the phone. if not factory reset once. the whole process will take an hr or less depending on what you re install, but will give u a new phone
darshakjust4u said:
not for me.. maybe u have too many apps and other crap hogging your memory space... does ur phone gets hot hot??? then maybeur cpu is throttling.
id clean up the phone. if not factory reset once. the whole process will take an hr or less depending on what you re install, but will give u a new phone
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Don't know about other crap bt considering the ram most of the time my average usage is about 2-2.2 gig, i.e 10-12 apps running..and also I'm not getting any abnormal heating (mine stays at around 35°C) for which this annoying issue could occur..XDA examined that OP3 handles throttling very well amongst SD820 powered devices..maybe it's a software glitch ?
What ROM and kernel are you running? Any system modifications (like Xposed)?
I'm not having issues you're describing, the phone can even keep multiple demanding games in background and resume them normally.
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Explorer23 said:
What ROM and kernel are you running? Any system modifications (like Xposed)?
I'm not having issues you're describing, the phone can even keep multiple demanding games in background and resume them normally.
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Stock Official OOS 3.2.7 Kernel Version 3.18.20-pref+. Not rooted, i.e, no system modification. Mainly the problem's occurring after the game running in background for a long time
So fully stock ... I really don't know why this would happen :/
Can't do much without root, try factory reset or even fresh ROM installation (if you have time and nerves for it).
EDIT: maybe first try modifying build.prop file to keep more stuff in RAM (set that bg_apps value to 64 for example). Nothing to lose here, it might help.
If I remember correctly there's a way to do it via ADB without root. Google for a guide.
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So fully stock ... I really don't know why this would happen :/
Can't do much without root, try factory reset or even fresh ROM installation (if you have time and nerves for it).
EDIT: maybe first try modifying build.prop file to keep more stuff in RAM (set that bg_apps value to 64 for example). Nothing to lose here, it might help.
If I remember correctly there's a way to do it via ADB without root. Google for a guide.
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There is no problem keeping up to 20-23 apps in memory. But only apps. No games. And I'm facing this issue with Asphalt Xtreme only. I watched videos where same problems happening with Asphalt 8 and GTA SA when they are being fetched from ram. May be I should put my device into test with some heavy games keeping in background ?
It may be due to game then, if it's only one app that refuses to resume.
I've never personally tried GTA, but Asphalt 8 didn't cause issues. It stayed in RAM for hours and I was playing other high-end games in between.
The only game that constantly kept closing in background on my device is Riptide GP: Renegade. That one closed almost any time I opened another app. But it wasn't crashing or having black screens or sth like that, it just loaded up fresh when I tried to resume it.
Everything else that I tried resumes nicely after longer periods of time. For example: Real Racing 3, CSR Racing 1 & 2, and a bit less demanding games like Temple Run 2, Construction City, Atomas, card games ... pretty much anything.
I've only installed Asphalt Xtreme yesterday, haven't played much so can't yet say much about it. Will report in following days if I find anything interesting.
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It may be due to game then, if it's only one app that refuses to resume.
I've never personally tried GTA, but Asphalt 8 didn't cause issues. It stayed in RAM for hours and I was playing other high-end games in between.
The only game that constantly kept closing in background on my device is Riptide GP: Renegade. That one closed almost any time I opened another app. But it wasn't crashing or having black screens or sth like that, it just loaded up fresh when I tried to resume it.
Everything else that I tried resumes nicely after longer periods of time. For example: Real Racing 3, CSR Racing 1 & 2, and a bit less demanding games like Temple Run 2, Construction City, Atomas, card games ... pretty much anything.
I've only installed Asphalt Xtreme yesterday, haven't played much so can't yet say much about it. Will report in following days if I find anything interesting.
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same here with Renegade. I checked again. Normal games are kept in memory with others apps with no problem. But for Asphalt Xtreme after long time in background it keeps showing black screen when resumed. I've to close it anyway. Will wait for your feedback on Asphalt Xtreme :good:
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same here with Renegade. I checked again. Normal games are kept in memory with others apps with no problem. But for Asphalt Xtreme after long time in background it keeps showing black screen when resumed. I've to close it anyway. Will wait for your feedback on Asphalt Xtreme :good:
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It seems that Asphalt Xtreme works well for me. Opened it sometime during yesterday afternoon, paused mid-race and continued to use the phone normally for the rest of the day. Tried resuming before I went to bed (~1AM) and it worked normally, instantly went back to where I left it. Paused again, checked mail and news, set alarm and left it over night. Now I'm using the device for 2 hours already, opened 10+ apps, did some updates while charging, quickly started a few other games and then tried resuming Asphalt again. Went right back into the race, no issues.
So ... I guess it's working here ?
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It seems that Asphalt Xtreme works well for me. Opened it sometime during yesterday afternoon, paused mid-race and continued to use the phone normally for the rest of the day. Tried resuming before I went to bed (~1AM) and it worked normally, instantly went back to where I left it. Paused again, checked mail and news, set alarm and left it over night. Now I'm using the device for 2 hours already, opened 10+ apps, did some updates while charging, quickly started a few other games and then tried resuming Asphalt again. Went right back into the race, no issues.
So ... I guess it's working here ?
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Seems like I have to root my device after all. Thanks btw
me. with Modern Combat 5. sometimes the app freezes. not sure if that's a server problem or My device's. :/
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me. with Modern Combat 5. sometimes the app freezes. not sure if that's a server problem or My device's. :/
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i'm also facing an issue with modern combat 5, few minutes into the game, the core go crazy high and temperature shoots up to 46-48C in MSM_THERM in cpu-Z
Hi All,
Anybody here with the same issue ?
Looks like a software issue/touch unresponsive issue because usually I find it coming back to normal once I press power button and unlock it again.
Sounds like RAM allocation issue, isn't ?
Thinking to sell it. Please suggest if you guys know a better way to deal with it !
Even if I go to SC, I cannot reproduce the issue at that particular time. They will just reset it and give me back, and that where I don't want to waste my time.
Does this looks fruitful to flash stock firmware again by the unbrick way ? I feel like that will be me last try.
You seem new here, so welcome on xda
One thing you should keep in mind is to be as precise as possible when presenting an issue, your description right now is not very clear, by the title it sounded like your phone actually froze, which could have been a ram or even a power management issue, but after reading your post it seems more likely that your display was wet, or that you were charging your phone, capacitive touchscreens are sensible to that.
Usually a frozen phone does not respond to the power button like yours did, and a ram issue seems very unlikely tbh
CriGiu said:
You seem new here, so welcome on xda
One thing you should keep in mind is to be as precise as possible when presenting an issue, your description right now is not very clear, by the title it sounded like your phone actually froze, which could have been a ram or even a power management issue, but after reading your post it seems more likely that your display was wet, or that you were charging your phone, capacitive touchscreens are sensible to that.
Usually a frozen phone does not respond to the power button like yours did, and a ram issue seems very unlikely tbh
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My style of using I believe is the same and I had no such issues in my Cool 1 ever in an year. Was a lot better in every way. Picked it up because I loved the looks, but have lost my trust on Huawei. They really need a lot of improvement.
i am having the same issues as the OP (Although i don't know what he means by "going to the SC")
the phone just goes through moments of extreme lag for about 10-30 seconds, sometimes longer, and it makes the phone COMPLETELY unusable during those times. it happens at least once every other day or so, sometimes several times a day, and sometimes it only lasts about 10 seconds, although on a few occasions, it has lasted several minutes, the phone will "attempt" to respond to inputs, but it gets nowhere quick, opening apps i did not click on, closing apps that weren't open, black-screening, half-screening (app on half the screen), etc.. sometimes i have to just power cycle..
i have the exact same feeling as the OP in that i want to sell the phone. (although i type much better, i'll assume english is a second language for him/her)
i like EMUI a lot.. although i think i want a galaxy s8/s9 now.
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Tirken said:
i am having the same issues as the OP (Although i don't know what he means by "going to the SC")
the phone just goes through moments of extreme lag for about 10-30 seconds, sometimes longer, and it makes the phone COMPLETELY unusable during those times. it happens at least once every other day or so, sometimes several times a day, and sometimes it only lasts about 10 seconds, although on a few occasions, it has lasted several minutes, the phone will "attempt" to respond to inputs, but it gets nowhere quick, opening apps i did not click on, closing apps that weren't open, black-screening, half-screening (app on half the screen), etc.. sometimes i have to just power cycle..
i have the exact same feeling as the OP in that i want to sell the phone. (although i type much better, i'll assume english is a second language for him/her)
i like EMUI a lot.. although i think i want a galaxy s8/s9 now.
BND-L24 HONOR 7X B140 no root
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Since yours is the us variant, I'm assuming you've got 3 gb of ram instead of 4 gb, in which case a ram issue seems much more likely.
Not much of an issue actually, just that you probably had lots of apps open at the same time, leading to almost full ram (so the system starts closing background and even foreground apps if needed, leading to the strange behaviour you noticed).
Just remember to close apps you don't use and you'll be fine
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Just remember to close apps you don't use and you'll be fine
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It's 2018 and I think the OP and I know how smartphones work. I am coming from a phone with 2GB RAM and it has no such issues, no matter how many apps and/or games are open. Google explicitly states that closing background apps is unnecessary, and I should think EMUI offers an improvement over stock Android, not a detrimental experience. However, if you are correct and it is the RAM, it is not acceptable and needs to be fixed or I'm buying a new phone from a different company. In today's world, phones will open links to Chrome and from Chrome open reddit, xda app, pinterest, link to Facebook, share to Twitter, etc etc.. every time I click on a button I should not be having to back track to make sure I only have a certain amount of apps open. Nougat limits max open apps to 20 BTW, marshmallow it was 30.. But RAM management CPU management should be better. If it's of any interest, my reported "free" ram always stays at or above 1-1.5GB so I don't think its ram.. CPU or software problem, possibly.. But my Temps are good as well. Yes it's the 3GB version
Just a quick thought of something you could check (I also have the US 3GB version and was experiencing the same issue). Open up Settings > Battery, and other the "Other" section click "Consumption". See if there's any apps there that are keeping the phone awake and preventing it from sleeping. I would get constant lag after only a few hours of use, and it was intermittent just like you're experiencing. I was about to send the phone back, but checked this setting first. Turns out, the CNN app was running the CPU at nearly 100% for hours on end and preventing the phone from deep sleeping. Once I uninstalled that app, I haven't had issues since then. Could be something similar, just a thought. YMMV.
And by the way, it's NOT the ram. 3GB is plenty. You can see how much is being used on the app select screen, and I've never used more than 1.5 with a ton of apps in the background.
Let me help you there guys....i got the US variant too and has these freezing and lags all over the place, what i discover and did was:
1- Not all the apps works well with the phone hardware(they told me that somewhere) so try to test the apps you put on the phone.
2-Delete all the unnecessary apps from emui, that will give you less lag.
3-Check the battery consuming apps like the guy said and if you want turn on the close apps on screen lock.
Now after all of these my phone have been moving better but the problem isnt the ram, is the software so wait a little more so they can fix this cause is really a good value phone
It has to be the RAM management. Huawei must have optimized the software for 4GB, and then released a US 3GB version without changing anything, so it's screwed up even though phone is showing lots of free RAM.
Wao man thats the best explanation for this problem thanks man
It isn't and never was a RAM thing. Android's memory management essentially force closes apps (but shows them in recents) if it needs more memory. Note there is no work involved in that and you'd never know it until you switch apps and it has to reload, shows logo, etc. Amazing how non-solutions we're brought up multiple times and even thanked. Insert that's-not-how-any-of-this-works meme.
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It isn't and never was a RAM thing. Android's memory management essentially force closes apps (but shows them in recents) if it needs more memory. Note there is no work involved in that and you'd never know it until you switch apps and it has to reload, shows logo, etc. Amazing how non-solutions we're brought up multiple times and even thanked. Insert that's-not-how-any-of-this-works meme.
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Well, yeah, ram issues nowadays should not be present, but I do speak on a basis, I have experienced bad performance and foreground apps getting killed on a nexus 5, which has 2 gb of ram and stock android. I have no idea what's emui's ram management policy, but on a scale, this would be the least likely cause for sure
Okay so the phone is great let me start there and virtually no lag or studder when using most apps again all. But I did notice today while using Google Maps, Pokemon Go, and Facebook messenger that switching between the apps there was a major system hang and a slow down. Also after having a bunch of apps open it ****s Pokemon go down completely from running in the background and even though it shows it's still open in the recents, when I go back to it, it starts up again like I just opened the app and reloaded it. Has anyone else noticed this issue? And if so is this something that could be fixed with an update or is this just bad ram management for 4gb of ram on this phone?
Pokemon Go is a terribly optimized heavy resource game, it reloads after using almost anything else on my Pixel 2
One thing I've noticed for some apps, if you have it battery optimized, it will do that. YouTube Music for me would. I would be in the car, stop and go in a gas station or whatever, come back out and it would startup like it just opened for the first time. Turned off optimization and hasn't done it since. But yeah, watch out for some games. Some are resource hogs.
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Okay so the phone is great let me start there and virtually no lag or studder when using most apps again all. But I did notice today while using Google Maps, Pokemon Go, and Facebook messenger that switching between the apps there was a major system hang and a slow down. Also after having a bunch of apps open it ****s Pokemon go down completely from running in the background and even though it shows it's still open in the recents, when I go back to it, it starts up again like I just opened the app and reloaded it. Has anyone else noticed this issue? And if so is this something that could be fixed with an update or is this just bad ram management for 4gb of ram on this phone?
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This was happening to me on my Pixel 2 XL, and I thought it was a RAM management issue. Turns out it was battery optimization. I turned off battery optimization and PoGo stopped closing in the background. I did this for a couple of other programs I didn't want aggressively closed. It seems to have done the trick.
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This was happening to me on my Pixel 2 XL, and I thought it was a RAM management issue. Turns out it was battery optimization. I turned off battery optimization and PoGo stopped closing in the background. I did this for a couple of other programs I didn't want aggressively closed. It seems to have done the trick.
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So turning off adaptive battery helps you're saying?
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So turning off adaptive battery helps you're saying?
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Not exactly. Select the apps and make sure they are not optimized. Everything else on your phone should stay optimized.
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Not exactly. Select the apps and make sure they are not optimized. Everything else on your phone should stay optimized.
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Awesome, gonna give it a try, thank you
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Not exactly. Select the apps and make sure they are not optimized. Everything else on your phone should stay optimized.
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Just tried it, unfortunately did not work... IDK what's up with this
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Not exactly. Select the apps and make sure they are not optimized. Everything else on your phone should stay optimized.
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Actually I restarted my phone after I did the changes and now it seems to be working? I'll test it through out the day but if that's all it was you're a life saver my friend. Thank you
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Not exactly. Select the apps and make sure they are not optimized. Everything else on your phone should stay optimized.
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It didn't work, see like when it gets 4 or 5 apps down the list it restarts itself when u try and reopen it .. thank you though
I think there's a RAM leak. I think there was one on the 2 XL too.
I saw someone in the comments of an article say there is way to fix this with root. Is there a magisk mod that helps with this?
probably the SWAP being used
You MOMOS. IT SAVES BATTERY. DO YOU GET IT?
More and more reports are coming up regarding this issue - playing music in the background and then using the camera, etc.
I have experienced it when using Smart AudioBook Player playing in the background and have google maps navigation running. All of a sudden, the audio bookstops playing. I have to switch to the audiobook and restart playback. It then happens again and when I restart the audiobook a second time, google maps' navigation gets closed out. I think google needs to issue a software update for their RAM management.
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More and more reports are coming up regarding this issue - playing music in the background and then using the camera, etc.
I have experienced it when using Smart AudioBook Player playing in the background and have google maps navigation running. All of a sudden, the audio bookstops playing. I have to switch to the audiobook and restart playback. It then happens again and when I restart the audiobook a second time, google maps' navigation gets closed out. I think google needs to issue a software update for their RAM management.
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-3-xl/how-to/apps-closing-t3857299/post77946888
In addition to that @topjohnwu has stated:
Just checked the code, it seems that the configurations are read only once when it started. If kernel devs wants to tune LMK, they would either have to: a. Modify /system/bin/lmkd to allow runtime changes b. Use resetprop to modify those read-only props, and restart lmkd https://twitter.com/MishaalRahman/status/1054409086626861056
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Ram isn't a problem for me but I will be implementing simple lmk in FrankenKernel ,for those with issues it's probably just aggressive .. Should not be a huge deal going forward..
Sultan- https://github.com/sultanxda/androi...mmit/cd8c0ff4eba3310ffa016e1bd29b4b0bcd7baff5
Furthermore I think people are taking this a tad too far I have had the device since Friday and can't speak anything but great things and look forward to developing on it in the coming days
There is defiantly some ram issues, i have been using a few music apps that keep getting killed when im doing other things. im sitting at over 3gb of usage almost 700mb more usage then my pixel 2 xl with the same apps i use. Im sure it will be fixed just not sure it will be done with in my return window and since i got it from vzw i wont have the luxury of flashing better optimized kernels . sucks having issues like this but i think all my pixel nexus phones had some odd issues for the first few weeks/months
I noticed the RAM problem while using Amazon Music and Zombie's Run! The music would stop during the first song while the Run app still runs. It really sucks to have to stop my workout to make the music start. My 2XL never had this issue.
I'm on the fence. For this amount of money, I should be happy with it, not annoyed.
Hello guys.
I had some issues with my Galaxy A70. It's lagging like hell while playing garena free fire, my device can handle the game without any issue but I Don't know why this happens.
The problem is when I play the game first 2-3 minutes game works fine but after 2-3 minutes game starts lagging phone slows down and touch sensitivity feels really heavy even game controls seems heavy I can't get fine movement because of this issue. And when I close the game phone seems so much slower it takes 10 seconds to open an app.
And while playing a game when I open the game control menu and close it, game works fine for 1-2 minutes and again it starts lagging. I hope someone here can help me with this issue. Any advice would be much appreciated
My device is not rooted and I'm on android 11 latest version.
Sorry for bad English
It called "thermal throttling".
Most smartphone will thermal throttle when the processor got too hot. Try lower your game setting. This can reduce the heat on the processor, and thus reduce the lag.
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It called "thermal throttling".
Most smartphone will thermal throttle when the processor got too hot. Try lower your game setting. This can reduce the heat on the processor, and thus reduce the lag.
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I accept your solution. but I'm already playing on lower settings the game lagging also on lower settings. I've tried factory data reset and after that lag disappeared for 2 or 3 days and again after 3 days lag came back I only downloaded the game (downloaded game after factory reset)
I think it's not" thermal throttling " maybe some systems apps causing the issue? Cuz every system has high usage
I've noticed every system apps running at 100%high frequency everytime, I think that might be the issue how can I fix this issue?
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Hello guys.
I had some issues with my Galaxy A70. It's lagging like hell while playing garena free fire, my device can handle the game without any issue but I Don't know why this happens.
The problem is when I play the game first 2-3 minutes game works fine but after 2-3 minutes game starts lagging phone slows down and touch sensitivity feels really heavy even game controls seems heavy I can't get fine movement because of this issue. And when I close the game phone seems so much slower it takes 10 seconds to open an app.
And while playing a game when I open the game control menu and close it, game works fine for 1-2 minutes and again it starts lagging. I hope someone here can help me with this issue. Any advice would be much appreciated
My device is not rooted and I'm on android 11 latest version.
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Disable you game launcher because when your phone heats up ,it drop your screen frame rate(fps) and also decrease your volume that cause so much of lagging issue.
My suggestion was to use a custom rom to get best gaming experience
It could be anything but if it is related to hardware section u can do nothing. So first of all u need to tell us about the CPU. If it's low-end or entry level CPU u can't play anything on it.
If it's mid-range, I can help u.
I have a phone running on mediatek helio g85 powered by android 12
I face the same issue as you do because I did an update of my os. So don't update your os.
And you need to charge 100% everytime you play. You need to restart the phone or clear the cache of your game before you play. Don't use your mobile data because it will heat up your phone quickly and don't run apps in background like Avast, Facebook Messenger etc. Try to remove your back cover and hold the phone like near a fan and turn off your volume u will notice a big difference and take a break after 30 minutes to cool down and power off the phone and don't use your phone at night power it off.
Also lower your brightness I mean u can play at night time it will not heat up your phone
OK everybody I have to go to the video to show you exactly the frame drops that I'm having and the crazy b******* that I keep on dealing with with this phone and it's driving me absolutely insane as you can tell from the title I can't I can't stop the phone from you're getting frame drops during the day when decides to do it it doesn't matter if the phone gets a bit hot with the CPU loading or have loaded in the background 1015 apps it just does not matter it when the phone is cold when I haven't touched it in an hour yes I do not Ever have this problem with the frame drops the 2nd I started picking it up and using it for 510 minutes maybe 15 minutes this is one I have the problems with the frame drops and it's driving me insane I've tried everything all the performance cpu settings are on their high Level the battery is not in any way shape form restricted restricted in the settings it's actually unrestricted to have the best performance out of the usage of the phone and still I have this b******* frame dropping g****** insane crazy issue that I cannot stand anymore and I'm coming to you guys the XDA because All reddit keeps on saying is to go ahead and either turn the phone in and get a new unit which is both stupid and and to do a hard reset which I'm not doing because it literally takes hours 6 hours to set up my phone and I'm not doing that that's just stupid heart reset isn't going to fix the problem that I even had on my phone too when android 12 came out and I just downloaded the latest version Which just came out 3 days ago and again here we go again which is another android update and again I still keep on getting this frame dropping please guys please I'm asking you I just want this fold 3 with a snapdrag 888 to work exactly how it's supposed to which a silky smooth all around all day without having any issues handling simple communications Apps simple emails phone calls and just scrolling through my Gallery going through normal social media pages is just insane I'm not even playing any games on this and it's just the back of the phone does get pretty hot very fast sometimes it takes 510 minutes and it just starts getting warm and I've measured the the temperatures usually gets up to a 101 04 with pretty heavy usage and then I'll go back down to 80 and this is the battery temperature not the CPU the CPU also I tested it and it stays between 70 to 85 ﾟﾟﾟﾟﾟﾟﾟﾟﾟﾟﾟﾟﾟﾟﾟF so please guys please I'm asking you I've been asking reddit for months and it's driving me insane I'm coming on here it's been a long time since my last post please let me know how to fix thisw to fix this
Thanks in advance
Ok checked the problem in safe mode it doesnt happen at all so the question how do I find the app reaponsible which really doesnt make any sense to me at all
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Ok checked the problem in safe mode it doesnt happen at all so the question how do I find the app reaponsible which really doesnt make any sense to me at all
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if it was a PC, would be just looking at the task manager to see what's taking up all the processing power... but idk if there is such a thing on the phone.
I would assume your best bet is to reproduce issue then report to Samsung Members app > Get Help > Error Report. Clearly note that you checked with SafeMode and it's not happening in SafeMode, and share your issue reproduced video.
Wakelock detector can show you which apps keep your cpu busy. You need to give permissions via adb so it can monitor all process.