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Developer Decorum and Conduct
Android is open source and Google releases the code under the Apache License. This open source code and permissive licensing allows the software to be freely modified and distributed by device manufacturers, wireless carriers and enthusiast developers.
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Full version here
Read Apache Licence here
2.) What is Open-Source?
open source refers to a program in which the source code is available to the general public for use and/or modification from its original design. Open source code is typically created as a collaborative effort in which programmers improve upon the code and share the changes within the community.
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Read Open-Sourcing here
3.) Too many big words, what does this mean exactly?
Everytime you develop for the android-software you are bound by the GPL, Apache license and the XDA forum rules
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See full GPL Licence here
4.) What must I do before publishing my work?
Review your work and see if it violates any of the following:
XDA Forum Rules #12
Using the Work of others
If you are developing something that is based on the work of another Member, you MUST first seek their permission, and you must give credit to the member whose work you used. If a dispute occurs about who developed / created a piece of work, first try to settle the matter by private message and NOT in open forum. If this fails then you may contact a moderator with clear evidence that the work was created by you.
Convincing evidence will result in copied work being removed. If there is no clear evidence you created the work then in the spirit of sharing all work will remain posted on the forums.
As an addition, developers have the right to hold exclusivity over their work for as long as it is deemed necessary by the dev or freely share it. However, if the work is claimed as exclusive, it must remain as such. No selective sharing will be allowed (ie allowing certain people to use it and not others). Should the dev decide to start sharing the work with others, the work automatically becomes fair game for all to use.
In regards to permissions, same rules remain for this but if permission was already given, unless there is a very valid reason, it cannot be revoked (same applies to major updates on the work). Under that same premise, permissions cannot be denied unless the work is exclusive or under severe circumstances.
In plain English: If you want to keep your work exclusive, go for it. However, if you are going to share your work, do it fairly.
These rules apply to all software posted on XDA (including but not limited to ROMs, RUUs, apps, games, kernels, themes, icons, etc) unless that software comes with a license that waives these rules.
Ask permission before using other's work, no matter how small it is (a .png file or a xml code), please secure all nessesarry permits from the original author before publishing
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Tips:-
Create your own license, disclaimer and warranty notice
Protect your work by creating your own license and publishing them together with your work, remember this is your work and you have all the right to secure it at will and on your behalf, just make sure you clearly specify your license, disclaimer and warranty.
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Open-GPL Licence Sec. 5-6
Publishing your sources, and providing notice of modification
5. Conveying Modified Source Versions.
You may convey a work based on the Program, or the modifications to produce it from the Program, in the form of source code under the terms of section 4, provided that you also meet all of these conditions:
a) The work must carry prominent notices stating that you modified it, and giving a relevant date.
b) The work must carry prominent notices stating that it is released under this License and any conditions added under section 7. This requirement modifies the requirement in section 4 to “keep intact all notices”.
c) You must license the entire work, as a whole, under this License to anyone who comes into possession of a copy. This License will therefore apply, along with any applicable section 7 additional terms, to the whole of the work, and all its parts, regardless of how they are packaged. This License gives no permission to license the work in any other way, but it does not invalidate such permission if you have separately received it.
d) If the work has interactive user interfaces, each must display Appropriate Legal Notices; however, if the Program has interactive interfaces that do not display Appropriate Legal Notices, your work need not make them do so.
A compilation of a covered work with other separate and independent works, which are not by their nature extensions of the covered work, and which are not combined with it such as to form a larger program, in or on a volume of a storage or distribution medium, is called an “aggregate” if the compilation and its resulting copyright are not used to limit the access or legal rights of the compilation's users beyond what the individual works permit. Inclusion of a covered work in an aggregate does not cause this License to apply to the other parts of the aggregate.
6. Conveying Non-Source Forms.
You may convey a covered work in object code form under the terms of sections 4 and 5, provided that you also convey the machine-readable Corresponding Source under the terms of this License, in one of these ways:
a) Convey the object code in, or embodied in, a physical product (including a physical distribution medium), accompanied by the Corresponding Source fixed on a durable physical medium customarily used for software interchange.
b) Convey the object code in, or embodied in, a physical product (including a physical distribution medium), accompanied by a written offer, valid for at least three years and valid for as long as you offer spare parts or customer support for that product model, to give anyone who possesses the object code either (1) a copy of the Corresponding Source for all the software in the product that is covered by this License, on a durable physical medium customarily used for software interchange, for a price no more than your reasonable cost of physically performing this conveying of source, or (2) access to copy the Corresponding Source from a network server at no charge.
c) Convey individual copies of the object code with a copy of the written offer to provide the Corresponding Source. This alternative is allowed only occasionally and noncommercially, and only if you received the object code with such an offer, in accord with subsection 6b.
d) Convey the object code by offering access from a designated place (gratis or for a charge), and offer equivalent access to the Corresponding Source in the same way through the same place at no further charge. You need not require recipients to copy the Corresponding Source along with the object code. If the place to copy the object code is a network server, the Corresponding Source may be on a different server (operated by you or a third party) that supports equivalent copying facilities, provided you maintain clear directions next to the object code saying where to find the Corresponding Source. Regardless of what server hosts the Corresponding Source, you remain obligated to ensure that it is available for as long as needed to satisfy these requirements.
e) Convey the object code using peer-to-peer transmission, provided you inform other peers where the object code and Corresponding Source of the work are being offered to the general public at no charge under subsection 6d.
After securing the permits if in case your project is a derivative or is based upon another project, you must publish and indicate it in a conspicuous and clear place within your post or work together with it's sources,
if in case of a original work, you must indicate the sources in a conspicuous and clear place within your post or work
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XDA Forum Rules #6
Do not post warez.
If a piece of software requires you to pay to use it, then pay for it. We do not accept warez nor do we permit any member to promote or describe ways in which Warez, cracks, serial codes or other means of avoiding payment, can be obtained. This is a site of developers, i.e. the sort of people who create such software. When you cheat a software developer, you cheat us as a community
Don't Include Paid Apps versions on your work, Remember not all app developers do it for a hobby, sometimes they rely on app purchases for feed their kids, pay their bills and get their life ahead,
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XDA Forum Rules #13
Advertising and Income Generation
Commercial advertising, advertising referral links, pay per click links and other income generating methods are forbidden. Do not use xda-developers as a means to make money
Don't post your link to redirect a pay-per-click (e.g adfly, etc) website
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Link to the XDA Forum Rules
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5.) The original author declined my permission to use his work or he is not responding, What shall i do?
If in case the author has declined to provide permissions to secure usage of his work. then you are unable to publish it in XDA, you are however free to use it for your own device without sharing the source.
If in case author was unable to respond, PM the moderator to settle this issue and wait for a "GO" signal to publish your work.
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6.) A person accused me of stealing his work, What should I do to defend myself?
PM the accusor to disscuss with him the matter at hand, however if you are unable to negotiate a concensus with the accusor, then PM a moderator to settle your disputesDON'T FIGHT WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT THREAD,and wait for the moderators to finish their investigation and undergo a conclusion on the matter
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7.) Does #4 apply to porting roms, apps, from another device?
YES.
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special thanks to deathnotice01 for this useful thread
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Dear XDA members and developers, in case all of your apps need to be tested, and tested correctly, I would like to introduce my google+ beta community here:
Betaapps
As many of you know, Google implemented beta testing options to the Google Play Market and this option based on google+ communities, where you can invite your testers.
These way have a huge advantage:
1) Users can install your beta application directly from Play Market (they can trust your app more, and they don't need to move *.apk files on the device).
2) You will have a simple bugtracker with crash reports, it should increase quality of received feedbacks.
My community should help developers to share their beta programs and invite testers to their communities. If you have a post on XDA forums with your application beta promo, you also can just share the link to our community to the "Request feedback" section with no worry that it will be removed (even if you don't have any community). There are not so much places where you can find a list of beta testing programs, like in our "apps" section, and I also would like to invite all XDA members who want to be notified about new android apps in beta to join our Betaapps community as a tester.
For now, Betaapps community is growing and it will be very helpful if you will share this community with your google+ circles and other social networks. This forum section could be more effective for developers if they will know how to get more testers.
Actually I have a big plans in beta testing field and my community and I hope that XDA members will enjoy my activities and our work will be help testers and developers meet each other. Welcome for your comments.
* for moderators: It would be great to pin this post in this forum section. I also
can place a link to this post in our community description to help people visit XDA. Thanks!
Hey if tester positions are still opened please consider me.. As I'm a real QA Analyst so can easily find and report the bugs n I'll prefer Quality all the way...
Thanks
Sent from my GT-I9070 using XDA Free mobile app
Welcome - Betaapps community is a part of crowd testing. It's mean that everyone can become a tester and of course you can be invited privately for more interesting projects, if your testing skills are good.
There are a lot of free testing programs there and you can join any of them, by the way I will share some information about other beta platforms where you can find paid projects in "crowd" section. Stay tuned and you will become a part of a big crowd testing project with paid opportunities and other awesome features.
You can also introduce yourselves there, and share that community with your friends. We are looking for active QA professionals there :highfive:
Fill free to ask anything you want to know about Betaapps!
sunil.avvas said:
Hey if tester positions are still opened please consider me.. As I'm a real QA Analyst so can easily find and report the bugs n I'll prefer Quality all the way...
Thanks
Sent from my GT-I9070 using XDA Free mobile app
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Vindceo said:
Welcome - Betaapps community is a part of crowd testing. It's mean that everyone can become a tester and of course you can be invited privately for more interesting projects, if your testing skills are good.
There are a lot of free testing programs there and you can join any of them, by the way I will share some information about other beta platforms where you can find paid projects in "crowd" section. Stay tuned and you will become a part of a big crowd testing project with paid opportunities and other awesome features.
You can also introduce yourselves there, and share that community with your friends. We are looking for active QA professionals there :highfive:
Fill free to ask anything you want to know about Betaapps!
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I'm In and thanks for the info I've juts Joined & followed the Beta apps from G+
After migration to the new forum, I'm unable to login tot my old account and when i tried to reset password it says " The requested member could not be found. "
My account username is "ojuniour"
Help me, Mods/Staffers
denniss4000 said:
After migration to the new forum, I'm unable to login tot my old account and when i tried to reset password it says " The requested member could not be found. "
My account username is "ojuniour"
Help me, Mods/Staffers
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Contact Us | XDA Developers
Founded in 2002, XDA is the world’s largest smartphone and electronics community. Looking for the latest tech news and reviews? Want to do more with your Android phone, Windows PC, iPhone, iPad, or MacBook? Look no further than XDA.
www.xda-developers.com
The account still exists.
ojuniour
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Contact Us | XDA Developers
Founded in 2002, XDA is the world’s largest smartphone and electronics community. Looking for the latest tech news and reviews? Want to do more with your Android phone, Windows PC, iPhone, iPad, or MacBook? Look no further than XDA.
www.xda-developers.com
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just tried that
denniss4000 said:
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just tried that
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[All XDA Members] Requests to Moderators and Admins
Rather than sending a PM to an individual Moderator, please feel free to ask questions in need of Moderator or Admin assistance. We will all be monitoring this thread, and someone will reply without much delay. In order to hopefully address some...
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As mentioned before, the RD onboarding system was retired after Xenforo migration.
As a stop-gap measure, we are now accepting applications via a google form.
If you wish to apply for the RD Program, first read the minimum requirements and code of conduct linked below.
Recognized Developer Code of Conduct & Minimum Requirements.
Recognized Developer Code of Conduct As an XDA Developers member with special standing as part of our developer program, we obviously have some expectations of your conduct. We try to be friendly here, and while we understand that not everyone is...
forum.xda-developers.com
Then you can fill the form to apply for the same.
XDA RD Form
This is the form to apply to become a "Recognized Developer" at XDA-Developers. Please answer all questions as completely as possible. You should familiarize yourself with the following document...
docs.google.com
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karandpr said:
Further developments will be conveyed soon
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Many thanks my friend.
karandpr said:
Then you can fill the form to apply for the same.
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Badger50 said:
Many thanks my friend.
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Yeah, and the link to the form has also been updated in the portal announcement.
XDA Recognized Developer Program
A Recognized Developer is a user on XDA, with a history of producing cutting edge work, and doing so in a mature and respectful manner, co-operating with others, and generally setting a good example with regard to adherence to open source licenses and other legal concerns. Recognized Developers...
www.xda-developers.com
karandpr said:
As mentioned before, the RD onboarding system was retired after Xenforo migration.
As a stop-gap measure, we are now accepting applications via a google form.
If you wish to apply for the RD Program, first read the minimum requirements and code of conduct linked below.
Recognized Developer Code of Conduct & Minimum Requirements.
Recognized Developer Code of Conduct As an XDA Developers member with special standing as part of our developer program, we obviously have some expectations of your conduct. We try to be friendly here, and while we understand that not everyone is...
forum.xda-developers.com
Then you can fill the form to apply for the same.
XDA RD Form
This is the form to apply to become a "Recognized Developer" at XDA-Developers. Please answer all questions as completely as possible. You should familiarize yourself with the following document...
docs.google.com
Further developments will be conveyed soon
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Hi karandpr,
The following links in RD Form not working. You may need to update them.
@karandpr Sir, above for your information.
Retrial said:
Hi karandpr,
The following links in RD Form not working. You may need to update them.
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Oswald Boelcke said:
@karandpr Sir, above for your information.
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Should be fixed.
@karandpr I noticed that this link leads to a broken link
Edited: Issue Fixed
I'm creating this thread, but if any Senior Mods or Admins feel it would best be discussed in [All XDA Members] Feedback/Recommendations for XDA thread (I was unsure as that thread is more for suggestions & feedback, I don't know if criticism falls in the spirit of the thread) or some other more appropriate spot, please move these posts there.
Because there isn't any dedicated unlocked thread regarding the rules, policy, stance, and instances on this site (XDA) concerning (Telegram primarily; WhatsApp was mentioned once) external links that may or may not require registration to download files or public/private "channels" or how devs (there and here) deal with the policy, I am moving discussions made from THIS THREAD to a thread here devoted to the topic so it is on-topic here (rather than off-topic there) and anyone can feel free to discuss it further in a dedicated space for it.
Also, in the spirit/theme of the thread, I will also post some related materials to re-establish with an excerpt from Forum Rule 11 and the link to XDA's current rules, policy, & stance on Telegram directly below:
XDA Developers Forum Rules said:
11.
...This includes promoting sites similar / substantially similar to XDA-Developers.com.
Encouraging members to participate in forum activities on other phone related sites is prohibited.
Off-site downloads are permitted if the site is non-commercial and does not require registration.
Off-site downloads from sites requiring registration are NOT encouraged but may be permitted if both of the following conditions are met:
A) The site belongs to a member of XDA-Developers with at least 1500 posts and 2 years membership, who actively maintains an XDA-Developers support thread(s) / posts, related to the download.
B) The site is a relatively small, personal website without commercial advertising / links (i.e. not a competitor forum-based site with purposes and aims similar to those of XDA-Developers.com.)
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Telegram Chat Channels - Way Forward
WhatsApp/Telegram Groups and Channels - Going Forward Hello XDA family! Just notifying all members that posting certain links to Telegram and other sites like WhatsApp is now allowed on XDA. What does that mean? We will allow links to messages...
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swer45 said:
So you can download it, give root permissions to Alpha and direct install it.
Random Telegram channel? The dev is one of the contributors of official Magisk, LSPosed and Shamiko. I don't think it's a random telegram channel
Give it a try : mod edit;telegram link removed
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Can't believe you not only got away with this but got thanked by an XDA mod for it!... Impressive!... Rules on TG links on XDA have changed, to allow information but maybe we can give TG as file source now @V0latyle?... I ask because of past warnings... PW
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pndwal said:
Can't believe you not only got away with this but got thanked by an XDA mod for it!... Impressive!... Rules on TG links on XDA have changed, to allow information but maybe we can give TG as file source now @V0latyle?... I ask because of past warnings... PW
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According to these rules, download links from Telegram should be ok as long as...
What about download links?
Download links from hosts, platforms or other sources are allowed as long as they do not require registration. Some Telegram links require registration for downloads, so they will not be allowed. Please check them before posting.
pndwal said:
Can't believe you not only got away with this but got thanked by an XDA mod for it!... Impressive!... Rules on TG links on XDA have changed, to allow information but maybe we can give TG as file source now @V0latyle?... I ask because of past warnings... PW
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Check out the TG policy in my sig. We treat files hosted on TG like we do any other file host - they must be available to the public without registration, I.e., a TG account must not be necessary to download them.
I personally can't figure out how to download it but I'm also not TG literate, so...
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Can you say app then?... Or did I miss it... PW
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You mean the app name?
Main bank is Navy Federal but you can't test biometric sign in unless you have an account.
Other app is Mid America Bank, it complains about root unless DenyList is enabled on it, then it complains about USB Debugging.
Lughnasadh said:
According to these rules, download links from Telegram should be ok as long as...
What about download links?
Download links from hosts, platforms or other sources are allowed as long as they do not require registration. Some Telegram links require registration for downloads, so they will not be allowed. Please check them before posting.
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This.
V0latyle said:
Check out the TG policy in my sig. We treat files hosted on TG like we do any other file host - they must be available to the public without registration, I.e., a TG account must not be necessary to download them.
I personally can't figure out how to download it but I'm also not TG literate, so...
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Well that's what's confusing about XDA... Rules were strictly no TG except one per development thread in OP originally, then was told still no links to TG threads needing registration but can link relevant information on public threads but CANNOT give TG links as file sources regardless... PW
Lughnasadh said:
According to these rules, download links from Telegram should be ok as long as...
What about download links?
Download links from hosts, platforms or other sources are allowed as long as they do not require registration. Some Telegram links require registration for downloads, so they will not be allowed. Please check them before posting.
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Ok, got it thanks... I missed the change nearly a year ago! ... Guess better late than never... PW
pndwal said:
Well that's what's confusing about XDA... Rules were strictly no TG except one per development thread in OP originally, then was told still no links to TG threads needing registration but can link relevant information on public threads but CANNOT give TG links as file sources regardless... PW
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Ok, got it thanks... I missed the change nearly a year ago! ... Guess better late than never... PW
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Yeah. If you read the policy, we allow one TG link for developers in the OP, with the condition that support and updates must be provided in the XDA thread. There's been a few developers that try to keep everything on TG, and that's the point where we consider it to be self promotion under Rule 5:
Links to an external source are only allowed if relevant to the topic in hand. A description must be included, no copy & pasting from the original source.
Self-promotion is forbidden, this includes blogs, social media and video channels etc. Random links will be removed.
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I'm not going to quote the TG policy here since you can just click on the far right link in my sig and read it, but you get the idea
Speaking of Telegram, can someone help me figure out how to download the file? I don't have Telegram on my phone and while I have an account (that I don't frequently use) I'd rather not join the channel
swer45 said:
To download the file you must have Telegram installed in your phone and had an account
But I can share it
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Thank you. If the previous link you shared does indeed require an account I recommend you remove it
V0latyle said:
Check out the TG policy in my sig. We treat files hosted on TG like we do any other file host - they must be available to the public without registration, I.e., a TG account must not be necessary to download them.
I personally can't figure out how to download it but I'm also not TG literate, so...
You mean the app name?
Main bank is Navy Federal but you can't test biometric sign in unless you have an account.
Other app is Mid America Bank, it complains about root unless DenyList is enabled on it, then it complains about USB Debugging.
This.
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Ok, so seems what I was told is actually still correct:
pndwal said:
... Rules were strictly no TG except one per development thread in OP originally, then was told still no links to TG threads needing registration but can link relevant information on public threads but CANNOT give TG links as file sources regardless...
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Members "can link relevant information" from TG as the links (to public channels) can be opened in browser as a 'preview' (eg with /s/ inserted before the channel name).
However they "CANNOT give TG links as file sources regardless" as files cannot be downloaded without registering an account.
The cited rule
What about download links?
Download links from hosts, platforms or other sources are allowed as long as they do not require registration. Some Telegram links require registration for downloads, so they will not be allowed. Please check them before posting.
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may possibly apply to WhatsApp (can that be accessed without registering an account? ) per its banner heading, but for TG the statement "Some Telegram links require registration for downloads, so they will not be allowed" seems wishful, superfluous and misleading to me as all Telegram links require registration for downloads unless I'm mistaken. PW
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Ok, so seems what I was told is actually still correct:
Members "can link relevant information" from TG as the links (to public channels) can be opened in browser as a 'preview' (eg with /s/ inserted before the channel name).
However they "CANNOT give TG links as file sources regardless" as files cannot be downloaded without registering an account.
The cited rule
may possibly apply to WhatsApp (can that be accessed without registering an account? ) per its banner heading, but for TG the statement "Some Telegram links require registration for downloads, so they will not be allowed" seems wishful, superfluous and misleading to me as all Telegram links require registration for downloads unless I'm mistaken. PW
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Someone had demonstrated to me at some point that TG files can be made publicly available. But I don't remember who. The only thing I can suggest is getting one of the more Telegram knowledgeable mods in here like @karandpr or @Oswald Boelcke or @alecxs
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Someone had demonstrated to me at some point that TG files can be made publicly available. But I don't remember who. The only thing I can suggest is getting one of the more Telegram knowledgeable mods in here like @karandpr or @Oswald Boelcke or @alecxs
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I think it was Oswald I discussed this with previously...
Seems you can download without Telegram "by joining a Telegram group called Files Web Downloader" or similar:
https://techlizar.com/how-to-download-telegram-files-without-telegram/
but "you’ll need to join the group and forward the downloadable link" before "they will convert the link as a fast downloadable link", but that's no good due to need to register...
Apparently a Telegram bot called GetPublicLinkBot might work per link above. "You can use it to download any large files without Telegram... This bot will generate a direct download link for any file you send it" but it didn't work in my test:
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
... Doubt such third party file-mirroring solutions would be acceptable to XDA anyway, at least unless 3rd party links are used... Original TG links still require registered account to work. PW
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Someone had demonstrated to me at some point that TG files can be made publicly available. But I don't remember who. The only thing I can suggest is getting one of the more Telegram knowledgeable mods in here like @karandpr or @Oswald Boelcke or @alecxs
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Telegram posts with external links are available publicly.
Telegram download links required a Telegram account.
karandpr said:
Telegram posts with external links are available publicly.
Telegram download links required a Telegram account.
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For context, this:
pndwal said:
Ok, so seems what I was told is actually still correct:
pndwal said:
... Rules were strictly no TG except one per development thread in OP originally, then was told still no links to TG threads needing registration but can link relevant information on public threads but CANNOT give TG links as file sources regardless...
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The cited rule
What about download links?
Download links from hosts, platforms or other sources are allowed as long as they do not require registration. Some Telegram links require registration for downloads, so they will not be allowed. Please check them before posting.
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may possibly apply to WhatsApp (can that be accessed without registering an account? ) per its banner heading, but for TG the statement "Some Telegram links require registration for downloads, so they will not be allowed" seems wishful, superfluous and misleading to me as all Telegram links require registration for downloads unless I'm mistaken. PW
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So it seems that despite the rule update and the fact that many here use Telegram to communicate or to peruse forums, we still cannot link even main Magisk test forks from principal Magisk Devs like @vvb2060's Alpha (with no GitHub published releases) or other apps etc published (for root hiding etc) there...
-------An aside: @ipdev recently made me aware of the "official XDA-Developers Telegram chat hub"... ("Here you will find links to all official XDA Telegram chat groups. The XDA-Developers Telegram chats are run by members of XDA Management with help from various trusted community members.")
https://t.me/xdadevelopershub
I couldn't find rules there against posting or linking files and many have been posted... So I wonder if an acceptable workaround for regular XDA members would be to post such files in the XDA TG General Discussion channel, then reply to that post with a reference to the app/mod like "The Alpha build is 13mb" and link that post (not a download source itself; only a source of 'pertinent information' ) from an XDA forum response to a member asking about such releases(?)...
As a for-instance, I ran early versions of Shamiko and posted on XDA about this new hiding module's development long before @nullptr gave it a public GitHub home, but I couldn't post a source for release files when members asked for it as it was only available on TG for some time...
Now (since the extinction of MagiskHide) Shamiko is a staple module for XDA Magisk users too, but it would still be taboo here if it hadn't been for @nullptr's (and @canyie's?) initiative, because of XDA policy... PW
The Telegram discussion doesn't really belong here, we (used to?) have a thread about Telegram and XDA, I'm currently trying to find it
pndwal said:
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So it seems that despite the rule update and the fact that many here use Telegram to communicate or to peruse forums, we still cannot link even main Magisk test forks from principal Magisk Devs like @vvb2060's Alpha (with no GitHub published releases) or other apps etc published (for root hiding etc) there...
Also, @ipdev recently made me aware of the "official XDA-Developers Telegram chat hub"... ("Here you will find links to all official XDA Telegram chat groups. The XDA-Developers Telegram chats are run by members of XDA Management with help from various trusted community members.")
https://t.me/xdadevelopershub
I couldn't find rules there against posting or linking files and many have been posted... So I wonder if an acceptable workaround for regular XDA members would be to post such files in the XDA TG General Discussion channel, then reply to that post with a reference to the app/mod like "The Alpha build is 13mb" and link that post (not a download source itself; only a source of 'pertinent information' ) from an XDA forum response to a member asking about such releases(?)...
As a for-instance, I ran early versions of Shamiko and posted on XDA about this new hiding module's development long before @nullptr gave it a public GitHub home, but I couldn't post a source for release files when members asked for it as it was only available on TG for some time...
Now (since the extinction of MagiskHide) Shamiko is a staple module for XDA Magisk users too, but it would still be taboo here if it hadn't been for @nullptr's (and @canyie's?) initiative, because of XDA policy... PW
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The problem xda had was a few Devs were using XDA to promote their telegram groups and not contributing to xda at all. Several of these Devs were then selling their work on telegram. All though the xda rules are far from ideal, this is what they were trying to stop
pndwal said:
For context, this conversation:
So it seems that despite the rule update and the fact that many here use Telegram to communicate or to peruse forums, we still cannot link even main Magisk test forks from principal Magisk Devs like @vvb2060's Alpha (with no GitHub published releases) or other apps etc published (for root hiding etc) there...
Also, @ipdev recently made me aware of the "official XDA-Developers Telegram chat hub"... ("Here you will find links to all official XDA Telegram chat groups. The XDA-Developers Telegram chats are run by members of XDA Management with help from various trusted community members.")
https://t.me/xdadevelopershub
I couldn't find rules there against posting or linking files and many have been posted... So I wonder if an acceptable workaround for regular XDA members would be to post such files in the XDA TG General Discussion channel, then reply to that post with a reference to the app/mod like "The Alpha build is 13mb" and link that post (not a download source itself; only a source of 'pertinent information' ) from an XDA forum response to a member asking about such releases(?)...
As a for-instance, I ran early versions of Shamiko and posted on XDA about this new hiding module's development long before @nullptr gave it a public GitHub home, but I couldn't post a source for release files when members asked for it as it was only available on TG for some time...
Now (since the extinction of MagiskHide) Shamiko is a staple module for XDA Magisk users too, but it would still be taboo here if it hadn't been for @nullptr's (and @canyie's?) initiative, because of XDA policy... PW
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OMG, I thought you have successfully finished the thesis on this topic, but apparently it's still on the table
andy242 said:
The problem xda had was a few Devs were using XDA to promote their telegram groups and not contributing to xda at all. Several of these Devs were then selling their work on telegram. All though the xda rules are far from ideal, this is what they were trying to stop
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Exactly. This is largely a non profit site, and the only revenue we get is from traffic on this site...so anything that directs users elsewhere is bad. That's also why we discourage self promotion, etc. The idea is that XDA and the content shared herein should be available to the general public for anyone to get useful information...not a platform to promote oneself, one's website, social media, etc.
@pndwal trying to compete with @Oswald Boelcke for the Wall of Text!
@karandpr is it still true that only channels allow free download of files, but groups require using a TG account? Or is it both?
andy242 said:
The problem xda had was a few Devs were using XDA to promote their telegram groups and not contributing to xda at all. Several of these Devs were then selling their work on telegram. All though the xda rules are far from ideal, this is what they were trying to stop
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Correct.
There is also the security perspective.
We had previous instances when some malicious actor passed malware onto devices from a telegram group.
That resulted in device bricks. Furthermore, malicious actors also cheated members of their money via crypto.
It's a reasonable line we have drawn .
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@karandpr is it still true that only channels allow free download of files, but groups require using a TG account? Or is it both?
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You can view public channels, public groups, and posts in public groups.