Hi guys!
I'm considering a replacement phone for my ageing Oneplus 5. So far it has been Oneplus 9, Pixel 6 and Smasung S22. Pixel 6 camera is AWESOME, detailed, fast, great. But the phone itself is not. Oneplus 9's camera is not so good, the weakest of all three phones. S22's camera seems to be placed in between, however the JPEG compression the stock Samsung camera does ruins the details in photos and it cannot be configured.
I've tried various Gcam mods/configs, no one has ever worked to same basic satisfaction.
So my question is whether there is some good camera app replacement and/or modified Samsung stock camera app.
Thanks a lot!
I don't have an answer to this, but hopefully, more people can chime in to discuss around the camera.
I went from Pixel 2XL to S22 Exynos. I Miss a lot the photos from my Pixel.
The S22 photos are ok but it feels like a downgrade against the Pixel (and I'm talking about 4 year old phone!).
Also, the camera shooter is somewhat slow. Just this weekend I tried taking a few portrait photos of a dog that was standing still, and some of the photos came a little bit blurred/moved, which was very frustrating by the time I realise that, and there is no way to refocus in edit mode like I was able to do on the Pixel. I think that's somewhat related to portrait with the 3X telelens.
I tried a few Google Cameras on the S22, and only got one to actually work (picked from reddit). But the results are not that different than stock camera for some reason.
I'll stick with this phone for a year or two, but I believe I'll eventually come back to a Pixel just because of the camera. Shoot and go, and have an incredible perfect and sharp picture.
The video is another story. Samsung does a great job with stabilisation there. But I actually do way more photos than videos, so its not a thing that I actually enjoy.
Biges said:
Hi guys!
I'm considering a replacement phone for my ageing Oneplus 5. So far it has been Oneplus 9, Pixel 6 and Smasung S22. Pixel 6 camera is AWESOME, detailed, fast, great. But the phone itself is not. Oneplus 9's camera is not so good, the weakest of all three phones. S22's camera seems to be placed in between, however the JPEG compression the stock Samsung camera does ruins the details in photos and it cannot be configured.
I've tried various Gcam mods/configs, no one has ever worked to same basic satisfaction.
So my question is whether there is some good camera app replacement and/or modified Samsung stock camera app.
Thanks a lot!
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I am using S22 - SD variant. In my opinion, I don't see anything like that. Maybe because I haven't compared it side by side with Pixel 6. One thing I know for sure that S22 is way better than my previous S20 FE 5G and S8 in terms of details and overall camera performance.
Use Pro mode on the stock camera app. If that doesn't satisfy you, we have Expert Raw App, exclusive for newer Samsung flagships, a notch above the regular Pro mode.
I was close to changing my s22 for iphone 12 or even Galaxy a53 5g but today I tried 50 mpx mode and pictures are imprssively detailed and low of noise. I do not know if they changes something in camera processing in this mode but pictures are much better than 12 mpx standard mode.
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I put the Samsung Galaxy S10 Plus's cameras up against its predecessor the S9 Plus, in an attempt to determine how much has improved and whether or not it's worth upgrading to.
Overall. I've found that there isn't a lot separating both these phones when it comes to the main camera and the telephoto lens that is. Actually, just a little difference, I find that the S9 Plus took pictures that were
slightly more detailed and the high dynamic range on the S9 Plus was also a little better. The pictures taken with the S9 Plus were also more vivid and saturated but whether or not you like that, would depend on personal preference.
Now, where the S10 Plus shines, is the ultra wide camera, the S9 Plus doesn't have that at all, so in that area the S10 Plus wins hands down, capable of capturing nearly as much as the eyes can see, and of course it's generally more fun to shoot landscape images with that ultra wide camera.
Another area the S10 Plus wins in is Video stabilisation at 1080p, trust me when I say the video is really stable.
If video stabilisation and ultra wide images aren't of any interest to you, then, the S9 Plus in my opinion shoots better images so there's no point in upgrading, otherwise if you want something that's versatile go ahead and upgrade to the S10 Plus.
You can either take my word for it or watch the video below, you'll find that everything I said above is mentioned in the video so it isn't mandatory to watch it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=993mzj7aeiw
xdaman85 said:
I put the Samsung Galaxy S10 Plus's cameras up against its predecessor the S9 Plus, in an attempt to determine how much has improved and whether or not it's worth upgrading to.
Overall. I've found that there isn't a lot separating both these phones when it comes to the main camera and the telephoto lens that is. Actually, just a little difference, I find that the S9 Plus took pictures that were
slightly more detailed and the high dynamic range on the S9 Plus was also a little better. The pictures taken with the S9 Plus were also more vivid and saturated but whether or not you like that, would depend on personal preference.
Now, where the S10 Plus shines, is the ultra wide camera, the S9 Plus doesn't have that at all, so in that area the S10 Plus wins hands down, capable of capturing nearly as much as the eyes can see, and of course it's generally more fun to shoot landscape images with that ultra wide camera.
Another area the S10 Plus wins in is Video stabilisation at 1080p, trust me when I say the video is really stable.
If video stabilisation and ultra wide images aren't of any interest to you, then, the S9 Plus in my opinion shoots better images so there's no point in upgrading, otherwise if you want something that's versatile go ahead and upgrade to the S10 Plus.
You can either take my word for it or watch the video below, you'll find that everything I said above is mentioned in the video so it isn't mandatory to watch it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=993mzj7aeiw
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I'm an enthusiast photographer with currently the Canon EOS 5DSR, I'm not making a lot of pictures with my phone except at work (another story )
When I received my 9+ last year, as I had heard so many good words about the camera, I test it in a shopping mall garage and it was impressive for a phone...
After that I used it indoors at work with very good results but when It tried in dark/night shots it was regrettable at least (Lot of noise)...
I received my 10+ last Thursday and Friday night I tried 2 night shots in normal view and one in tele, they where the same as 9+ with MAYBE a REALLY slight improvement...
I haven't try the super-wide yet but I will! I agree that if the reason to upgrade your phone is the camera maybe the PIXEL 3 will be better choice as it have some really impressive effects in camera... I really hope someone port the PIXEL 3 camera to my EXYNOS
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I'm an enthusiast photographer with currently the Canon EOS 5DSR, I'm not making a lot of pictures with my phone except at work (another story )
When I received my 9+ last year, as I had heard so many good words about the camera, I test it in a shopping mall garage and it was impressive for a phone...
After that I used it indoors at work with very good results but when It tried in dark/night shots it was regrettable at least (Lot of noise)...
I received my 10+ last Thursday and Friday night I tried 2 night shots in normal view and one in tele, they where the same as 9+ with MAYBE a REALLY slight improvement...
I haven't try the super-wide yet but I will! I agree that if the reason to upgrade your phone is the camera maybe the PIXEL 3 will be better choice as it have some really impressive effects in camera... I really hope someone port the PIXEL 3 camera to my EXYNOS
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Yep, the Pixel 3 is great for taking pictures at night, the Huawei Mate 20 Pro also takes really great shots at night.
Hello,
Pixel user here. I'm contemplating to buy a S10+ however, I am curious to know if someone has compared
S10+ GCam Vs Pixel 3 Photos. Is it on par with Pixel 3 photos? Because the photos of Pixel are amazing!
Please give me your insights
If you can get the snapdragon S10+ then I think it might be ok. the exynos version has quite some issues getting gcam to work properly on it...
But honestly, camera wise I think the pixel still is the better choice (saying that as exynos s10+ owner who is not too convinced of the camera yet)
Its an unpopular opinion here but i love the pics of my exynos S10+. So much more pleasing colors in comparison with gcam. I often find myself taking a random picture and beeing surprised what this phone is capable of. Its just a different look u have to decide which you prefer neither of both is the clear winner in my opinion.
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Its an unpopular opinion here but i love the pics of my exynos S10+. So much more pleasing colors in comparison with gcam. I often find myself taking a random picture and beeing surprised what this phone is capable of. Its just a different look u have to decide which you prefer neither of both is the clear winner in my opinion.
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I had a S9+ and used Gcam because of thee things:
Consistent HDR+ - Samsung had a good HDR image but far away from Google's
Portrait pics - Samsung's app used the 2.4 aperture camera to take the pics, so it looked super dark at night. HDR wasn't very good either, google's was much better
Night mode - Samsung's night mode added later on was not good in a dark environment, so night sight was a must
But when I got my S10+ things got much better.
HDR - consistent, takes amazing pictures and got even better after the update. I don't think my S9+ with a fully working Gcam could take a few of these beautiful pictures
Portrait - finally Samsung is using the 1.5 aperture camera to take pics and they look beautiful at night, not to mention the great hightlight detection, better than Google's. The HDR effect looks really good as well.
Night mode - looks much better than before, better than Gcam in some aspects, but not as bright overall. Still not as consistent as Gcam, needs some work but I'm really happy now.
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If you can get the snapdragon S10+ then I think it might be ok. the exynos version has quite some issues getting gcam to work properly on it...
But honestly, camera wise I think the pixel still is the better choice (saying that as exynos s10+ owner who is not too convinced of the camera yet)
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You're right, on the main camera pixel 3 is still the champ on photos. Better HDR+ in all moments, more details in any condition, night sight is 100 times better. When it comes to zoom 2x and ultrawide camera is a no go for the pixel 3. I own both a S10+ and p3xl
I was using the OnePlus 6T with GCam. Even that beats my S10+ camera hands down. I have the Exynos S10+ and i regret buying it. Will never buy an Exynos Samsung device ever again.
Now, i use this S10+ with my Google Pixel 3 XL. The camera is just UNREAL.
Anyways, my advice is. If camera is important to you. Get the new Pixel coming. If on a budget Pixel 3A still got fantastic camera. Or even a used Pixel 3.
For me, getting the OnePlus 7 Pro the second it launches and dumping this S10+. It's not a bad device, no. But the camera is average at best (If you ask me).
With the OP7 Pro, will have Snap 855, GCam and Dual SIM with quick software updates
Cheers!
Hi to all
I watch so many YT videos about camera comparison and see so many bad things about S20U camera. Is that because still camera software in beta or it is just what S20U is?
I watch S20U vs:
- Note 10 Plus,
- Huawei P40 Pro,
- Xiaomo Mi10,
- Iphone 11 Pro
And yes S20U have new big camera sensor but still they are no big improvements in night shoot's, astophotography, zoom, night videos, portret and etc.. And every phone have better camera in most situation. Whats wrong with S20U? Will Samsung fix this with software updates?
All the best
Not quite sure how you think most phones have a better camera but from someone who ACTUALLY has an S20U I can tell you this camera is fantastic. And with every update will continue to get better and better.
Feel free to not purchase it though. It isn't for everyone.
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Not quite sure how you think most phones have a better camera but from someone who ACTUALLY has an S20U I can tell you this camera is fantastic. And with every update will continue to get better and better.
Feel free to not purchase it though. It isn't for everyone.
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Come on now. You know that's not exactly true. This phone has pretty serious camera issues, from poor optics to focus problems, etc. It's not a terrible camera, but it is not worth the price tag. Samsung has to do a lot more work on the software side to make it better. I've had the phone since launch and while updates did improve things, it still falls short compared to other flagships. Both iPhone 11 Pro and Pixel 4 take better photos (I have those phones too), as does Note 10+ in most cases (I have it too for comparison). With that said, it is possible to take good photos with the S20 Ultra, so it's not all bad.
If anyone bought the Ultra Solely for the camera then that was Dumbassville! Other than the camera however The 120hz screen rocks, 5g works good depending on your coverage area. It's also a speedy phone. At least my US Unlocked 512gb version is. But if your buying the phone expecting a mobile photography studio like Samsung is hyping in their ads you can forget that BS now because that's what it is. Just plain BS! That is not to say the cameras can't take good pictures or the software won't get better. It just means if your expecting a DSLR or Wonder Miracle camera on a phone it ain't happening. There is a reason those $10,000 DSLR lenses take great night time photos and cost so much. You will never achieve that quality on a phone camera.
I'm one of the few people who buys phone not for the camera but making receiving calls, YouTube media consumption social networking camera is bottom of the list.
I think the camera and video is brilliant and better then most flagship. Its good for an average consumer use for expert photographers not to sure as don't know enough. The good thing is most of us aren't experts.
I prefer the s20 plus as its slimmer and has less protruding camera. Its better buy then huawei as g services are missing and better software and screen. Better then oppo due to mainly software and less curved screen. Oppo could have been my choice were it not for the curved screen. I hate that, most overrated and wasted tech.
Thats my rant and impression of Samsung s20.
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If anyone bought the Ultra Solely for the camera then that was Dumbassville!
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That would make more sense than paying 17% more for a 6% larger screen. The battery is also 11% larger, but the plus is also lighter and thinner, especially at the camera bump. The cameras are the most significant difference between the two, it would only make sense for that to be the main motivating factor in paying the premium (especially considering the plus is tending to get marked down more).
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If anyone bought the Ultra Solely for the camera then that was Dumbassville! Other than the camera however The 120hz screen rocks, 5g works good depending on your coverage area. It's also a speedy phone. At least my US Unlocked 512gb version is. But if your buying the phone expecting a mobile photography studio like Samsung is hyping in their ads you can forget that BS now because that's what it is. Just plain BS! That is not to say the cameras can't take good pictures or the software won't get better. It just means if your expecting a DSLR or Wonder Miracle camera on a phone it ain't happening. There is a reason those $10,000 DSLR lenses take great night time photos and cost so much. You will never achieve that quality on a phone camera.
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The camera is literally the one reason to go for the Ultra vs. the Plus. Screen and battery size difference are insignificant in this decision, so no, Samsung does need to step up and make the Ultra worthy of its name. With that said, I am not expecting DSLR quality. I have a 5D Mark IV and some very high end lenses and know the difference. However, matching or beating the Pixel 4 series or the iPhone 11 Pro shouldn't be a problem for the camera setup on the Ultra, except Samsung botched the implementation badly.
isko01 said:
Hi to all
I watch so many YT videos about camera comparison and see so many bad things about S20U camera. Is that because still camera software in beta or it is just what S20U is?
I watch S20U vs:
- Note 10 Plus,
- Huawei P40 Pro,
- Xiaomo Mi10,
- Iphone 11 Pro
And yes S20U have new big camera sensor but still they are no big improvements in night shoot's, astophotography, zoom, night videos, portret and etc.. And every phone have better camera in most situation. Whats wrong with S20U? Will Samsung fix this with software updates?
All the best
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Agree with you.
Pay 1400$ for S20U
- BATTERY not good than 11 pro max or oppo find x2 or p40 pro
- Exynos 990 so bad ( ex 990 < kirin 990 < sd 865)
- Camera can not take the moment well as iphone or other phone. Can't focus well, but photo and video day light is ok.
- screen ok but oppo find x2 pro's screen are better
Sorry for my bad english.
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About Camera:
Have S20 Ultra hardware that can improve with software? Or should I go for Mi 10?
Thank you
Hi all,
I was happy with my Note 8 Pro until I tested Night Mode.
As you can see from the attached photo the sky is with very bad quality. A lot of and huge grains all over the sky. Even my 10 year old phone did better job. The normal mode made a bit better sky with a bit less grain but still far from acceptable image.
For comparison I will show you the sample photo from GSMArena.
Any suggestions why my sky looks so grainy and bad quality? Do I have a faulty phone? I would prefer complete black sky (as samples from GSMArena) instead of this.
bbfl said:
Hi all,
I was happy with my Note 8 Pro until I tested Night Mode.
As you can see from the attached photo the sky is with very bad quality. A lot of and huge grains all over the sky. Even my 10 year old phone did better job. The normal mode made a bit better sky with a bit less grain but still far from acceptable image.
For comparison I will show you the sample photo from GSMArena.
Any suggestions why my sky looks so grainy and bad quality? Do I have a faulty phone? I would prefer complete black sky (as samples from GSMArena) instead of this.
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I have same issue , it's the same scenario where the pro is not better than non pro (usually soc difference) , gcam only fully supported on qualcomm snapdragon phones even 14nm ones , i tried pixel experience plus gcam and it was clearly better than stock camera , idk if it will work with you because i didn't use night mode. a friend of mine has a 10 year old galaxy phone and his 28 nm snapdragon phone takes better pics than stock miui 11 a10 camera app , when we were comparing photos he was surprised.
Hey guys,
Please help me with this difficult choice for me.
I can swap my Oneplus 8 pro for a Samsung S20 ultra. One year ago I had the ultra but because of the horrible auto focus I switched to oneplus. Now a year later I heard the camera is a lot better now, but is it acceptabele or is it still horible?
I like the flat screen and oneui more than the curved screen of the oneplus and think oneui looks better than Oxygen...
But the bottleneck is the camera, so Please help me today, so I can make my desission the swap to Samsung.
RoyAndroids said:
Hey guys,
Please help me with this difficult choice for me.
I can swap my Oneplus 8 pro for a Samsung S20 ultra. One year ago I had the ultra but because of the horrible auto focus I switched to oneplus. Now a year later I heard the camera is a lot better now, but is it acceptabele or is it still horible?
I like the flat screen and oneui more than the curved screen of the oneplus and think oneui looks better than Oxygen...
But the bottleneck is the camera, so Please help me today, so I can make my desission the swap to Samsung.
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Btw... It's the Exynos version
I would definitely swap, numerous updates did wonders to s20u camera, and battery life is also improved
djoxie said:
I would definitely swap, numerous updates did wonders to s20u camera, and battery life is also improved
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Really?
Full Day battery with 120hz? And focus better and macro?
I get ~6 hours 100%-10% for one day use, or ~5 hours if I use it for 2 days (when busy @work).
Focus is mich more stable, and for macro phone asks you to switch to 2x and move away a bit when you get closer to the object
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I get ~6 hours 100%-10% for one day use, or ~5 hours if I use it for 2 days (when busy @work).
Focus is mich more stable, and for macro phone asks you to switch to 2x and move away a bit when you get closer to the object
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Thanks for replying. So the Camera and battery is fine now...
I use S20 Ultra with Snapdragon.
Autofocus is better then it was in July when i bought it. There are still issues, especially in middle to low light conditions, especially using 60fps video 1080p or 4K. If I use 4K 30fps, autofocus is much more stable. The same goes with 120fps 1080p in Pro Video mode - hard to focus, even at day if there is an object in front and there is some background, then it will focus on background or go back and forth between front and back. Solution - enable grid lines and try to put front object inside main square in the middle of display. Theb it will focus better.
Photos do not have the same clarity and edge, compared to Huawei P40 Pro, which I also own. There is still a little blur on portraits and macros. But for me it is ok, and IMHO for Samsung it is ok. Still photos are excellent. Night mode is the best I've seen.
And there are a lot of features, new and old, that are just unbeatable.
I would say between OP8Pro and S20Ultra I would go Ultra.
A fast SD card slot... there's no substitute.