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I came from a 7 Pro and honestly have been pretty unimpressed with the 9 Pro.
The 7 Pro was probably the first android device that I have had in a long time that didn't give me any issues and the performance from day 1 to this day is amazing.
Now fast Forward I got the 9 pro when it was announced, It feels sluggish in comparison to my 7 pro and has tons of issues with Android Auto.
My biggest complaint is Wifi reception is exceptionally poor, my 7 Pro runs circles around my 9 pro when it comes to wifi reception.
I've tried flashing custom roms on the 9 pro but no matter the device honestly just feels like a turd. So I am back on stock.

sultan.of.swing said:
I came from a 7 Pro and honestly have been pretty unimpressed with the 9 Pro.
The 7 Pro was probably the first android device that I have had in a long time that didn't give me any issues and the performance from day 1 to this day is amazing.
Now fast Forward I got the 9 pro when it was announced, It feels sluggish in comparison to my 7 pro and has tons of issues with Android Auto.
My biggest complaint is Wifi reception is exceptionally poor, my 7 Pro runs circles around my 9 pro when it comes to wifi reception.
I've tried flashing custom roms on the 9 pro but no matter the device honestly just feels like a turd. So I am back on stock.
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My last device was a OP 6T, so the OP 9Pro is several years later.....can't say I I'm having a similar experience. The 120hz beautiful display is buttery smooth. I only use wifi at my house and it's been fine. I personally think the camera is WAY BETTER than my 6t. It may not be Google Pixel quality but it's damn close.
My one and only gripe is the battery life. 6 hour average of SOT is not good.

sultan.of.swing said:
I came from a 7 Pro and honestly have been pretty unimpressed with the 9 Pro.
The 7 Pro was probably the first android device that I have had in a long time that didn't give me any issues and the performance from day 1 to this day is amazing.
Now fast Forward I got the 9 pro when it was announced, It feels sluggish in comparison to my 7 pro and has tons of issues with Android Auto.
My biggest complaint is Wifi reception is exceptionally poor, my 7 Pro runs circles around my 9 pro when it comes to wifi reception.
I've tried flashing custom roms on the 9 pro but no matter the device honestly just feels like a turd. So I am back on stock.
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Latest firmware (see sticky)? I have no issues at all. WiFi and Android Auto working fine. Smoother than my 8 pro.

sultan.of.swing said:
I came from a 7 Pro and honestly have been pretty unimpressed with the 9 Pro.
The 7 Pro was probably the first android device that I have had in a long time that didn't give me any issues and the performance from day 1 to this day is amazing.
Now fast Forward I got the 9 pro when it was announced, It feels sluggish in comparison to my 7 pro and has tons of issues with Android Auto.
My biggest complaint is Wifi reception is exceptionally poor, my 7 Pro runs circles around my 9 pro when it comes to wifi reception.
I've tried flashing custom roms on the 9 pro but no matter the device honestly just feels like a turd. So I am back on stock.
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One thing regarding Android Auto: you have to enable developer options and change the standard USB behaviour to File Transfer.

Honestly over the years coming from 8t but started with 5t and having everyone up. the innovation died after 7 pro. just straight led to death(poor leadership). but with hassleblad and big sensors camera now comes into play. as for the rest of the hardware, well its current hardware what else do I say.. Oxygen is oxygen not the device, so software is equally relevant from previous versions... ltpo is an experiment we'll see how that goes. but to answer, generally I agree not impressed but not upset

If not for 5G, I'd have stuck with my 7 pro (I know I could have gotten a 7t pro but I figured I'd spend a bit more and get something new)
So far, it's not knocking my socks off

I'm done with it. I love the device itself. The design, the hardware, love it. Hell, even love the pine green color. But the software is a complete clusterfuck of inane bugs and failures. I've never seen a device screw up google assistant before, but here we are. It's the only phone (of the 4 sitting on my desk) that doesn't know who my wife is, when I say "call my wife". Android Auto gets completely borked while driving. It doesn't ring when I get a call. A PHONE THAT DOESN'T RING. I'm in sales, and this is my work phone. This is a disaster. Oh, and the mute switch is bugged too, which is really odd. When the phone comes out of DND mode in the morning, it thinks the mute switch is in the silent position, even though it's (always) set to ring. Just silly.
Really annoyed I spent this much money on a phone I can't even use 2 months later. I went back to my S21, which I'm NOT a fan of. But at least it works as it should.

Disappointed with camera tbh can get some nice shots granted but soon as zoom past 3x it all goes pear shaped all the promo hype prior to release with the moons I was expecting at least half decent shots but zoom is terrible out of focus and we'll just crap really very disappointing and collaboration with hassleblad was basically a marketing gymick to fool us into thinking it's going to be a epic camera , oh we fell for that hook line and sinker , let's hope they can turn it around in future updates , not holding my breath , it's odd the moon was big and bright last night a nice orange tinge and looked a lot closer than when held camera up to get a shot it was much further away looking through camera and to get as close as it looked to the naked eye I had to zoom in 20x and we'll then it's just a fuzzy ball , pointless having zoom if it can't get clear shot really

entropism said:
I'm done with it. I love the device itself. The design, the hardware, love it. Hell, even love the pine green color. But the software is a complete clusterfuck of inane bugs and failures. I've never seen a device screw up google assistant before, but here we are. It's the only phone (of the 4 sitting on my desk) that doesn't know who my wife is, when I say "call my wife". Android Auto gets completely borked while driving. It doesn't ring when I get a call. A PHONE THAT DOESN'T RING. I'm in sales, and this is my work phone. This is a disaster. Oh, and the mute switch is bugged too, which is really odd. When the phone comes out of DND mode in the morning, it thinks the mute switch is in the silent position, even though it's (always) set to ring. Just silly.
Really annoyed I spent this much money on a phone I can't even use 2 months later. I went back to my S21, which I'm NOT a fan of. But at least it works as it should.
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Strange. I have none of these issues. Very, very strange.

its getting better, next update will fix other issues which phone has be patient .
things are getting better

alleshi said:
its getting better, next update will fix other issues which phone has be patient .
things are getting better
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Can only hope so , another thing is The difference is pictures like colours taking same picture multiple times theres no consistency Evey one looks different some out of focus some look brighter some look dull or washy think they need to work harder at getting better consistency especially switching back and forth from wide angle etc it's terrible

entropism said:
I'm done with it. I love the device itself. The design, the hardware, love it. Hell, even love the pine green color. But the software is a complete clusterfuck of inane bugs and failures. I've never seen a device screw up google assistant before, but here we are. It's the only phone (of the 4 sitting on my desk) that doesn't know who my wife is, when I say "call my wife". Android Auto gets completely borked while driving. It doesn't ring when I get a call. A PHONE THAT DOESN'T RING. I'm in sales, and this is my work phone. This is a disaster. Oh, and the mute switch is bugged too, which is really odd. When the phone comes out of DND mode in the morning, it thinks the mute switch is in the silent position, even though it's (always) set to ring. Just silly.
Really annoyed I spent this much money on a phone I can't even use 2 months later. I went back to my S21, which I'm NOT a fan of. But at least it works as it should.
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WTF dude?
A.) You are ****ed up your phone somehow yourself.
Or
B.) It's broken and you should have it replaced. There is a guarantee
Have you ever tried to reset the device and start over?
I read about software bugs in OxygenOS all the time. But somehow I've never had a problem myself. Before the 9Pro, I never had any problems with the OnePlus 3t also.

My 9 Pro works fine, Fast & never hot. It get's a little worm when it charges, but thats normal.
I am uninmpressed with samsung bs & iphose creap.

I agree it's getting better and better. My issue is that it was pretty bad when first released and some of these bugs should have to post release I think. Just my opinion.

It's getting better ever so slightly. But OOS 11 in my opinion never came out of beta. It ruined the 7 series, and honestly, it is hot GARBAGE on the 9 Pro, the UI/UX issues are annoying, things that just haven't been fixed and things that can be replicated on the 8 Pro that I also have.
The hardware is brilliant and some of the best ever imo (better than the iPhone 12 series), but OnePlus is seriously let down nowadays by their poor software and company decisions. Up until 1.5 years ago I had no issues with OnePlus Support, but now it just seems like customer service is the last thing on their agenda. Fairly disappointed but I guess this is the price to pay for their obvious complacency.

I would say the opposite of OP. Came from a 6T which is still going strong (gave to my sister). 9 pro is like WAY BETTER than 6T. The biggest gripe with oneplus has always been cameras but on 9 pro. It's frigging amazing. Initial reviews of camera were bad but they definitely improved it with updates. That's why didn't buy it staright away. The screen is gorgeous & buttery smooth. I love the curved screen. Always wanted one.
Just 2 issues - The battery life is meh. It's like pretty avg or below avg. The other issue is there is stuttering sometimes due to frame drops sometimes.
No issue with colors OS getting merged with OOS if it improves update speed & stability. They can still improve the camera a bit more. Some shutter lag is still there.

entropism said:
I'm done with it. I love the device itself. The design, the hardware, love it. Hell, even love the pine green color. But the software is a complete clusterfuck of inane bugs and failures. I've never seen a device screw up google assistant before, but here we are. It's the only phone (of the 4 sitting on my desk) that doesn't know who my wife is, when I say "call my wife". Android Auto gets completely borked while driving. It doesn't ring when I get a call. A PHONE THAT DOESN'T RING. I'm in sales, and this is my work phone. This is a disaster. Oh, and the mute switch is bugged too, which is really odd. When the phone comes out of DND mode in the morning, it thinks the mute switch is in the silent position, even though it's (always) set to ring. Just silly.
Really annoyed I spent this much money on a phone I can't even use 2 months later. I went back to my S21, which I'm NOT a fan of. But at least it works as it should.
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I don't use Android Auto, but I never had any problem with the DND mode. Works perfectly every day. OOS 11.2.9.9 has a few minor bugs, but what phone doesn't? I'm mostly happy with my OP9P. Can't fathom where your "disaster" and "clusterfuck" are coming from.

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Can't fathom where your "disaster" and "clusterfuck" are coming from.
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Literally from the exact things I described in my post. Also you're talking about 9.9, my post was from July and the phone has long since been retired.

Question The Pixel 6 Pro absolutely lives up to the hype

My 6 Pro got delivered this morning and I've spent the entire day setting up and playing with it - this phone is absolutely incredible! (Also the nerd in me is happy to see people shortening the 6 Pro to 6P, I loved my Nexus 6P)
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Can't comment on battery life yet but wow, the display, the cameras and the speakers are all excellent! Haptics are nice and tight, the entire phone feels snappy and gorgeous! Also shout out to the natural depth effect from the 4x telephoto camera, that's a lot of fun to play with.
As someone who's owner multiple Pixel phones in the past, I think every reviewer is on the mark when they say this is the first no compromise Pixel - Google have outdone themselves I fully believe it deserves the hype it's getting!
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Got to admit I've never had a phone like it, not with as many bugs that's for sure especially the freezing screen one and still waiting for Google to certify my phone on my network for 5G so no 5G out of the box

Shipoftheline said:
Got to admit I've never had a phone like it, not with as many bugs that's for sure especially the freezing screen one and still waiting for Google to certify my phone on my network for 5G so no 5G out of the box
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and that search bar so annoying

alleshi said:
and that search bar so annoying
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Yep and no option to change or move it

Shipoftheline said:
Yep and no option to change or move it
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.....Except changing to a different launcher like Nova ( which is far better anyway ) which takes all of 30 seconds. Nice complaint.

Burt Squirtz said:
.....Except changing to a different launcher like Nova ( which is far better anyway ) which takes all of 30 seconds. Nice complaint.
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Yes we all buy phones like you so we can put Nova on

Shipoftheline said:
Yes we all buy phones like you so we can put Nova on
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By your logic, you may as well not download ANY apps on the playstore and just strictly use apps that are stock on the phone. Pfft.
Stock launchers, since the dawn of Android, have been the most atrocious launchers there are. I've been using Nova ever since Android Donut and have never looked back since.

It was one of the worst phones I've owned, sadly. Sold it in the end after 3 months.

Burt Squirtz said:
.....Except changing to a different launcher like Nova ( which is far better anyway ) which takes all of 30 seconds. Nice complaint.
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Totally agree. Nova fits my needs very well and gives me everything I want in a launcher, with one small (but sometimes big to me) caveat. Anyone else notice that when you go home from an app, you have to wait a split second before tapping on anything on the home screen in the Nova launcher? If you tap too quickly, the tap is ignored and you have to tap again. I believe this is a widespread issue that Nova has recognized and I think their stance is "that's how it's designed, take it or leave it."
Like I said, not a big deal and I'll take it like that. Just a little bummed out because it almost feels like I have a low/mid range phone that isn't fully ready to tackle that initial tap on the home screen because the processor is too slow or the RAM is too low. I really wish it picked up that first immediate tap when going back to the home screen after exiting an app, only thing I miss from the stock launcher. Ok, my rant is done.

I had a high degree of interest in the Pixel 6 pro but in the end a few things steered me in another direction:
- Canada wasn't deemed worthy of the 512 GB model.
- Placed an order for the 256 GB model Jan 01, was still waiting for it Feb 09.
- Spent my time learning as much as I could about the device while waiting for it only to come to the conclusion that
there are way to many unresolved issues with conectivity and audio DAC incomatability etc.
Hopefully they get it right with the Pixel 7 Pro and decide that all regions deserve the same storage options.

The only issue I've run into, is the signal level on the phone. In areas where I would have "full bars", on my old A71 samsung, I have 1/2 bars.

Running A12L and 13 radio. Finally, I am enjoying the phone. I've been on Pixel since OG XL and not an iPhone fan. Other Android phones may have better hardware, but blocking ads, easy rooting, and the best AI & ML are the most important factors for my loyalty.

elodin_89 said:
....... with one small (but sometimes big to me) caveat. Anyone else notice that when you go home from an app, you have to wait a split second before tapping on anything on the home screen in the Nova launcher? If you tap too quickly, the tap is ignored and you have to tap again. I believe this is a widespread issue that Nova has recognized and I think their stance is "that's how it's designed, take it or leave it."
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It's a well known issue with 3rd-party launchers and A12. I have the same experience with Smart Launcher and still can't find a solution.

I don't fully agree honestly.
There really hasn't been a phone released in the past 3 or 4 years that has lived up to any real hype.
Maybe the Foldables but those are not on my radar currently.
Phone tech is pretty stagnant and the biggest issue we have right now are companies releasing BETA products and BETA software to consumers.
Consumers keep buying into the hype and companies will keep releasing BETA products.
I have the P6P, P6 and a S21 Ultra.
My S21 Ultra has more advanced Google features than any of my Pixel 6's do.

MArtyChubbs said:
Running A12L and 13 radio. Finally, I am enjoying the phone. I've been on Pixel since OG XL and not an iPhone fan. Other Android phones may have better hardware, but blocking ads, easy rooting, and the best AI & ML are the most important factors for my loyalty.
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13 radio on 12L? worth it?

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Personally I have found the Pixel 6 Pro to be a very good phone. I have been fortunate that I have not had the issues that some have had and Fingerprint reader on the whole reads first time, no random reboots, battery that lasts all day even when only charged to 80% (and still leaves me with 30% before re-charging).
I have the Mobile Network Standby reading a stupid number (40%+ recently) but this was 6% back when I got it and the actually battery usage has not changed, so don't feel it is an issue of any consequence.
Signal wise, not had any issues, its about the same as my OnePlus 6T was but this gets 5G when in a signal area which that phone couldn't.
There have been some things I haven't liked in Android 12 and the Pixel Launcher, so I have kept the Apex Launcher I used on the OnePlus and have kept the backgrounds to a minimum to not trigger the colour theming (do prefer greyscale anyway).
On the phone pretty pleased with it and don't have anything that is annoying me.
Will soon swap to a eSim so that I can add my work Sim which from what I am hearing may cause an issue, but will see what happens, can always switch back if needs be until fixed.
One of the reasons for using Android is the freedom to customise things like the launcher and the experience. If I was going to stick solely to what the manufacturer was supplying then I would have an iPhone (Not )

can we just be civil please. We all bought a Pixel 6 because we are the 1%'ers (kind of like a biker club). There are lots of great things about the Pixel Launcher (fluidity, simplicity etc) but there are also great things about Nova Launcher (customization etc). So it's about personal preference - just like choosing a Pixel over a Samsung.
Many times when reading comments on a forum, its hard to get your point across (or the real meaning behind your comment gets hidden). So I just wanted everyone to think about that for a second.

Sui77 said:
13 radio on 12L? worth it?
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Works for me, best reception and speed I've had yet

I love my p6pro with root I'm on 12L and have experienced bugs though, like occasional freezing and unresponsive screen. The Bluetooth cuts out on my headphones sometimes, but it's still the best phone I've owned. No complaints at all here with the p6pro

Sui77 said:
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I'm running the latest 12l radio on stock February update. Also the best bandwidth I've had yet.

Question Help me choose my next phone

Hi everyone, so i have a Redmi Note 9 Pro Max, and while it is a decent phone, MIUI and the various other issues of this phone made me lose trust in Xiaomi/Redmi and i want to upgrade to a more premium brand/phone.
my options are:
Pixel 6 pro
iphone 13 pro
Oppo Reno 5 Pro
wait for pixel 7 pro
S21 Ultra ( i dislike the s22 Ultra look/grip)
Oneplus 10 pro NOPE
I don't really game on my phone, but battery longevity and top notch performance with best cameras are my requirements but since am listing all premium phones i doubt any will have issues in those points right?
i was thinking of just going for an Iphone 13 Pro, but the switch from android to apple is worrisome as am used to the freedom of customization that Android allows, i am also a Flutter developer and debugging apps on android is much quicker/easier than on iOS, but i can't help but see the iphone 13 series just an all around premium, the look, the grip, its very different.
But if i want to go for a Pixel, shall i just wait for Pixel 7 pro when its released? or just get Pixel 6 Pro
Am very undecided...

If you don't mind oxygenos get the op10pro otherwise get a google pixel 6 pro if I'm not mistaken it's on sale right now

spart0n said:
If you don't mind oxygenos get the op10pro otherwise get a google pixel 6 pro if I'm not mistaken it's on sale right now
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Thank you for your response,
I've never had experience with oxygenos, is it comparable to MIUI?
Also doesn't the pixel 6 pro have several issues with hardware since the pixel 6 pro is the first phone to use googles in-house processor?

I am curious to see what the Nothing Phone delivers.....should be announced soon...

simlol12 said:
Thank you for your response,
I've never had experience with oxygenos, isn't comparable to MIUI?
Also doesn't the pixel 6 pro have several issues with hardware since the pixel 6 pro is the first phone to use googles in-house processor?
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I've had a p6p and my wife has a p6 and we've had zero problems with them. The problems seem to be a hit or miss. And oxygenos is almost clean android

Start at the 7 minute mark for the pertinent content.

android_dan said:
Start at the 7 minute mark for the pertinent content.
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Jeeesus,i can see it in the thumbnail but i saw the video anyway... ye oneplus out!!!
didn't know the Oneplus 10 pro had a new feature: DIY foldable phone!

simlol12 said:
Hi everyone, so i have a Redmi Note 9 Pro Max, and while it is a decent phone, MIUI and the various other issues of this phone made me lose trust in Xiaomi/Redmi and i want to upgrade to a more premium brand/phone.
my options are:
Pixel 6 pro
iphone 13 pro
Oppo Reno 5 Pro
wait for pixel 7 pro
S21 Ultra ( i dislike the s22 Ultra look/grip)
Oneplus 10 pro
I don't really game on my phone, but battery longevity and top notch performance with best cameras are my requirements but since am listing all premium phones i doubt any will have issues in those points right?
i was thinking of just going for an Iphone 13 Pro, but the switch from android to apple is worrisome as am used to the freedom of customization that Android allows, i am also a Flutter developer and debugging apps on android is much quicker/easier than on iOS, but i can't help but see the iphone 13 series just an all around premium, the look, the grip, its very different.
But if i want to go for a Pixel, shall i just wait for Pixel 7 pro when its released? or just get Pixel 6 Pro
Am very undecided...
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I have Pixel 6 Pro now and unfortunately, I am one of those who has many bugs. I switched to the iPhone 13 Pro for a few days and now using the OnePlus 8T until the OnePlus 10 is released. I tried a few iPhones for a week and every time I go back to Android.

ram4ufriends said:
I have Pixel 6 Pro now and unfortunately, I am one of those who has many bugs. I switched to the iPhone 13 Pro for a few days and now using the OnePlus 8T until the OnePlus 10 is released. I tried a few iPhones for a week and every time I go back to Android.
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What made you switch back from Iphone? and what kind of issues did you experience with p6p?

Purchase the Pixel from Google and you have two weeks to return it. Surly by then you can decide yay or nay.

simlol12 said:
What made you switch back from Iphone? and what kind of issues did you experience with p6p?
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I like the clean android experience, so Pixel and OnePlus are my options. With Pixel 6 Pro bugs and OnePlus planning to retire OxygenOS, I wanted to check if I can survive iPhone and I couldn't. I am planning to flash Evolution X ROM on my OnePlus 8T and try it out for few days.
Pixel 6 Pro Bugs:
Missed calls (Sometimes I don't get a call when my friends try reaching me, no voice mail, no missed call. Happens after a factory reset as well. I miss important calls as well)
Consistent Bluetooth disconnection from my car.
Occasional frame drops. Animations are smooth on Pixel 6 Pro, but it has occasional frame drops.
Finicky fingerprint.
iPhone issues for me:
Terrible notifications management
No YouTube Vanced
Screen TIme bug and a few other issues

it is up to you to decide. we cant decide what phone is best for you as we all look at phone differently. you be your own judge.

ram4ufriends said:
I like the clean android experience, so Pixel and OnePlus are my options. With Pixel 6 Pro bugs and OnePlus planning to retire OxygenOS, I wanted to check if I can survive iPhone and I couldn't. I am planning to flash Evolution X ROM on my OnePlus 8T and try it out for few days.
Pixel 6 Pro Bugs:
Missed calls (Sometimes I don't get a call when my friends try reaching me, no voice mail, no missed call. Happens after a factory reset as well. I miss important calls as well)
Consistent Bluetooth disconnection from my car.
Occasional frame drops. Animations are smooth on Pixel 6 Pro, but it has occasional frame drops.
Finicky fingerprint.
iPhone issues for me:
Terrible notifications management
No YouTube Vanced
Screen TIme bug and a few other issues
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ram4ufriends said:
I like the clean android experience, so Pixel and OnePlus are my options. With Pixel 6 Pro bugs and OnePlus planning to retire OxygenOS, I wanted to check if I can survive iPhone and I couldn't. I am planning to flash Evolution X ROM on my OnePlus 8T and try it out for few days.
Pixel 6 Pro Bugs:
Missed calls (Sometimes I don't get a call when my friends try reaching me, no voice mail, no missed call. Happens after a factory reset as well. I miss important calls as well)
Consistent Bluetooth disconnection from my car.
Occasional frame drops. Animations are smooth on Pixel 6 Pro, but it has occasional frame drops.
Finicky fingerprint.
iPhone issues for me:
Terrible notifications management
No YouTube Vanced
Screen TIme bug and a few other issues
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Well, it sounds like mostly software bugs, hopefully they'll patch em.
Oh man you're right. No YouTube Vanced oof...

Well, you ARE on a google pixel 6 forum...can't imagine what responses you will get. LOL

If you want something that just works and you use it in the way it was designed then the iPhone is a good candidate. If you want something that you can get to how you want it to look the the Pixel 6 Pro would still be my pick of Android devices.
Jumped from OnePlus as they have massively dropped the ball. Their devices are no longer cheap and their software has become very buggy and even slower to get updated.

I'm having the P6P and honestly I'm thinking of switching to samsung.
The phone is good don't get me wrong, but the battery life for me has been quite bad, considering always high mobile network battery drain(40% rn, and no workaround has helped me with that).
It falls down to your preference of which android skin you prefer the most, all of them are great in every requirement that you need, iphone 13pm wins the battery for sure, pixel is better on cameras if you're the kind of people that wants absolutely the most details possible on any level(It's better but not by a lot comparing to other phones).
Performance wise you won't notice difference between any of those, it can be again just the OS being laggy.
I don't know pixel just feels to simple for me, there's not a lot of customization in here, so I've had to root to gain more of what I want from a phone, install the addon features module for that and a couple of others.
So far yes, you can get lucky with the unit, and if you don't mind that pixel is a little bit more simple(kind of like iphone) in comparison with others, you can go for it.
The only 2 things that I hugely dislike about this phone is the battery life and just the simple OS, but I knew what I was going for so it's my fault that I've chose a phone with such limited and simple amount of settings.
I would wait for next samsung/pixel for now, and about current pixel, I cannot say for sure since I'm struggling with battery life, so cannot recommend a phone that I have problems with myself.
The /oneplus/oppo just don't cut it because of their android skins, iphone is better surely, but that's the phone that you'd want if you just want to buy it and use it without thinking about anything else.

I'd say wait and see what the P7P offers if you're not in a rush. Chances are it's going to just be a minor bump compared to the 6, as mobile tech has pretty much reached a peak for the time being. Unless the 2nd gen Tensor completely blows away the 1st gen, but even then probably won't see much difference in terms of every day usage. You could then just grab the p6p, which will probably have a nice discount by that time.

ram4ufriends said:
Pixel 6 Pro Bugs:
Missed calls (Sometimes I don't get a call when my friends try reaching me, no voice mail, no missed call. Happens after a factory reset as well. I miss important calls as well)
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That is actually an issue on the network side, not the phone. Basically the issue is that you connect to one network for data, and it needs to switch to another network for voice. Sometimes that network carrying voice is just not available and the call breaks. For example, if you have an LTE network that doesn't support VoLTE, then when a call comes in it has to switch down to HSPA. I've heard that "5G" networks are in a non-voice state, so they need to fall down to VoLTE or HSPA for a call. The solution is to lock your phone into a network that supports both data and voice. Like LTE with VoLTE enabled.
I had this problem *all the time* with my Pixel 2XL, which my network never authorized for VoLTE.
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Consistent Bluetooth disconnection from my car.
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That was DEFINITELY a problem for a while, but it was a software issue that has been fixed.
ram4ufriends said:
Occasional frame drops. Animations are smooth on Pixel 6 Pro, but it has occasional frame drops.
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Um, hardly worth mentioning.
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Finicky fingerprint.
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Fingerprint is probably not a good unlock method anyway, since it isn't clear if it is protected by the US 5th amendment or similar anti-self-incrimination laws in countries outside the US. GrapheneOS offers a hybrid unlock method that fully disables fingerprint on the lockscreen, but leaves it enabled for other places within the OS.

lesafijndt said:
I'm having the P6P and honestly I'm thinking of switching to samsung.
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Heh, P6P *is a samsuck*. Yes, I'm serious. Its an Exynos SoC+modem with a gooble sticker stuck onto it.

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Heh, P6P *is a samsuck*. Yes, I'm serious. Its an Exynos SoC+modem with a gooble sticker stuck onto it.
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Well, when it comes to hardware part sort of, but not so on software side and features/possibilities

Question Who is happy?

Who is truly happy with there pixel 6 pro and aren't having any issues. I want to buy the pixel 6 pro but hearing so many negative things about it like fingerprint scanner , weak signal , Bluetooth issues and more

Me, sir! Rock stable since January update.

The biggest problem I had was occasional system UI crash errors, but that was it. Just an error without any noticeable impact whatsoever, and I'm not even sure if that's the phone's fault given that I'm rooted and have a bunch of things installed. I'm pretty happy.

I'm happy too. I have no issues.

I have it since about two weeks and I love it.
I come from a pixel 5 witch was a great midrange phone.
My battery is great, I have no WiFi Dropouts, cell signal is strong and the camera is great too.
I really like this phone and I don't regret the switch.

I'm on the edge. I switch for the camera and big screen but I mainly a Xperia 1 III for the headphone jack sd card and screen. Plus my head buds are Sony. Here is my deal with pixel. Bluetooth is spotty maybe it's me, signal drops a lot. My Sony headbuds are buggy only one works until I turn off Bluetooth.. battery is great. But I'm 6/10 happy with the pixel pro.

Just fingerprint sometimes doesn't want to unlock the screen and need to do the pin code and i think it's software because also smart lock is crazy sometimes.
Except this, all is fine since november. I didn't have issue with december FW and following updade. A rock !!!

No issues here, had pixel 1, 3 and now 6 pro, she's a big old beast but I love it

I think it would be useful if people mentioned what they are running on their Pixel. Stock, beta, some custom ROM such as ProtonAOSP.
I read many users stating that the A12L beta is more stable than stock A12.

Barely any issues here, and the ones I've had I figured out how to fix. I've been tinkering with the bits and pieces of android since I got my HTC Dream/G1 and telnet was all you needed to root. The issues we had to deal with back then would be unacceptable today. Bugs, bugs everywhere. Finding the limits, compatibility, and workarounds is the best part. I've had every nexus and pixel phone except the 5 series. They aren't getting worse, but the complaining is getting louder every year.

I've had mine since it was released and have not had a single issue with it. I switched back to my Note 20 Ultra for a week just for a change and the battery on the P6P is 2-3 times better. The only thing the Note beats the P6P on is the screen and brightness. Other than that I am completely happy with it. It's the 1st Google device I've had since the Nexus 6.

I'm very happy with my Pixel 6 Pro NOW (unlocked from Google running on AT&T, stock ROM, no beta, locked bootloader). But until the January update, it was an absolute hot mess, SO bad I *almost* switched to an iPhone after 12 years of being a loyal Android user. I had hardly any signal, no data connection in more than half the areas around where I live, it was incredibly buggy, half the time I locked the screen, it was corrupted (icons didn't show that were supposed to, did that weren't, fingerprint scanner wouldn't appear or respond), it would randomly freeze constantly. And doing something as basic as running YouTube music with Google Maps was a sure fire way to have to force close one of them.
Since the January update: just fine. Whatever conditions I have REALLY demonstrated the hot mess that was the initial release software. But since the update, it's been virtually flawless. Signal is back, data is back, virtually bugless. The delayed updates kinda bug me (I expect this for a long while), but so long as it keeps working as well as it does now, I'm actually very happy with it.

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I'm very happy with my Pixel 6 Pro NOW (unlocked from Google running on AT&T, stock ROM, no beta, locked bootloader).
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I'm curious because I don't get to ask very often in the wild. With access to the devices today, What's the point of getting a google device through third party vendors that add nothing of value and only make it worse?. Pulled out my old Galaxy S5 the other week and my Verizon version STILL hasn't been fully unlocked. That thing was a nightmare to keep useful.

id be happy if volte and 5G would work

I'm extremely happy. If you know me,or ask anyone about me,I rarely NOT grumble of a phone. I back the 6 pro. Was happy with 5G on,but, now I've turned off 5G and settled for 4G/LTE with way less heat and less battery consumption,don't think I'll be upgrading this year. I go through phones like nothing,but, I've had a good experience so far that makes me wanna keep this for a year..... Hell,maybe even 2

Hi, everyone I am so happy when I help people.

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Hi, everyone I am so happy when I help people.
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Who you helping with that comment bruh?

Happy user here

I'm happy on a fully stock 12L beta

I'm mostly happy with it. It seems a lot more stable with the February update. I've not had any WiFi or Bluetooth issues. That said, reception is a bit worse than the S22 Ultra I use. I do really enjoy stock Android and the ability to customize with root. If the reception could be improved and the updates pushed on time, I'd say the phone is rock solid.
I guess I'm picky because I've used the competition and can tell it's not entirely up to par in that area.

Question Anyone upgrade from 8T, is it worth it?

Hi, all.
Had my 8T since Dec 2020 (longest ever for a device), and just can't find a device worth upgrading to. Anyone here jumped to 11 and thinks it was worth it?
Thanks!

I made the jump from the 8T to the 11 and I like it (mostly). The phone is super-fast and the software is pretty darn good. I'm starting to get antsy for some custom ROM's though (eg: paranoid android, pixel extended, etc).
The only thing I didn't really like (at the beginning) was the waterfall display on the edges. I don't really notice it any more but (personally) I prefer flat displays.

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I made the jump from the 8T to the 11 and I like it (mostly). The phone is super-fast and the software is pretty darn good. I'm starting to get antsy for some custom ROM's though (eg: paranoid android, pixel extended, etc).
The only thing I didn't really like (at the beginning) was the waterfall display on the edges. I don't really notice it any more but (personally) I prefer flat displays.
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Good deal. I just feel like 8T is still plenty fast until they discontinue the update support here in a year or so. How's the camera on 11?

1. This is not OxygenOS. I wouldn't say it's complete crap but it's leaves a lot to be desired.
2. Battery life is poor.
3. Camera is barely any better than for my even older than yours OnePlus.
4. Yeah, it's fast, too bad it's overheating even when using light apps like Google Maps.
I've no idea what to upgrade to but I'm not a fan of OnePlus 11 by a long shot. I've heard some Lenovo/Motorola and Asus phones feature a ROM which is close to stock Android.
Oh, and the Pixel 7 Pro is certainly an option as well, though stock Google Android is missing a ton of features from OxygenOS, even simple ones such as double tap to wake (it can be single tapped to wake but that leads to an extreme number of unnecessary wake up's).

I can't recommend it.
I have 8T and with the update to A13 it went way down in terms of sw quality :/
That worse sw quality + unreliable USB-C connecter made me looking for other devices.
After watching some reviews I got an incorrect impression that the OS/SW is better on OnePlus11...
But it's not...
- constantly fighting with android auto, when you connect the phone to your car, usually 1st attempt works, 2nd and any following doesn't and you need to do some dance like usb debug enable/disable or reboot to make it working...
- now with latest update, it has broken pressed state so most of apps don't have it visible
- whole UI is weirdly bloated, I prefer more dense content, I was already using the custom DPI value to override it, now the number must be even higher, but this value doesn't survive reboot... what a pain, if I have to reboot every other day...
- Notifications UX is somehow weird comparing to pixel 7 with A13, I have hard time to just dismiss it by swiping it out, very annoying.
- I don't like much the oneplus photos app, so I just disable it to get rid of it. What a surprise to see that the camera app has the oneplus photos app hardwired, so it it doesn't open any photos app, so I had to reenable it back again just to be able to see a history of photos directly from camera app...

Thanks, guys. My wife has a pixel 7 (non-pro) and I don't like it at all lol I hear youtubers raging about xiaomi and other Chinese phones (hell, OP is one also), but I'm on the fence on those due to security and update support.
Is Samsung any better than when it had that weird UI back in the day?

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Thanks, guys. My wife has a pixel 7 (non-pro) and I don't like it at all lol I hear youtubers raging about xiaomi and other Chinese phones (hell, OP is one also), but I'm on the fence on those due to security and update support.
Is Samsung any better than when it had that weird UI back in the day?
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joe.scurab said:
I can't recommend it.
I have 8T and with the update to A13 it went way down in terms of sw quality :/
That worse sw quality + unreliable USB-C connecter made me looking for other devices.
After watching some reviews I got an incorrect impression that the OS/SW is better on OnePlus11...
But it's not...
- constantly fighting with android auto, when you connect the phone to your car, usually 1st attempt works, 2nd and any following doesn't and you need to do some dance like usb debug enable/disable or reboot to make it working...
- now with latest update, it has broken pressed state so most of apps don't have it visible
- whole UI is weirdly bloated, I prefer more dense content, I was already using the custom DPI value to override it, now the number must be even higher, but this value doesn't survive reboot... what a pain, if I have to reboot every other day...
- Notifications UX is somehow weird comparing to pixel 7 with A13, I have hard time to just dismiss it by swiping it out, very annoying.
- I don't like much the oneplus photos app, so I just disable it to get rid of it. What a surprise to see that the camera app has the oneplus photos app hardwired, so it it doesn't open any photos app, so I had to reenable it back again just to be able to see a history of photos directly from camera app...
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I must be one of the lucky ones because I haven't had any issues with the USB charger, battery life (I can get almost 2 full days if I really stretch it out), Android Auto, the notifications or the photo app. I agree that it's not the Oxygen OS we've grown accustomed to but it's not the worst thing in the world (in my opinion).
But to each his own. Everyone has to make their own decision on what they can live with and what they can't.
I'd love to have a Pixel for the streamlined OS but the charging speed to stupid slow compared to the OnePlus 11 (hell, even the OnePlus 8t is way faster at charging). The camera on the OnePlus 11 is (for me) fine for the daily quick photo but I have a Canon DSLR that I use if I really want a good photo.
RussianBear, my suggestion is the try the OnePlus 11. If you like it, great. If not, send it back.

I just can't seem to justify paying full retail for this thing. It'd have to be that much better than 8T for me to drop near 1k (looking for max specs) on a new phone. Their 100 day gimmick is cool, tho lol

birdie said:
1. This is not OxygenOS. I wouldn't say it's complete crap but it's leaves a lot to be desired.
2. Battery life is poor.
3. Camera is barely any better than for my even older than yours OnePlus.
4. Yeah, it's fast, too bad it's overheating even when using light apps like Google Maps.
I've no idea what to upgrade to but I'm not a fan of OnePlus 11 by a long shot. I've heard some Lenovo/Motorola and Asus phones feature a ROM which is close to stock Android.
Oh, and the Pixel 7 Pro is certainly an option as well, though stock Google Android is missing a ton of features from OxygenOS, even simple ones such as double tap to wake (it can be single tapped to wake but that leads to an extreme number of unnecessary wake up's).
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I have 10-9hrs average screen on time while traveling.
Nothing overheats while having gps navigation active during my trips.
SOT are great, especially when I switched from OP7Pro.

I enjoy using my OnePlus 11, it's my first day to day device back with Android since I left behind the 6T and went to the iPhone lol The camera has improved to the point where it can be in the conversation with the Pixel and Galaxy phones, OxygenOS isn't as clunky as I thought it would be, and 80W charging is amazing.

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I enjoy using my OnePlus 11, it's my first day to day device back with Android since I left behind the 6T and went to the iPhone lol The camera has improved to the point where it can be in the conversation with the Pixel and Galaxy phones, OxygenOS isn't as clunky as I thought it would be, and 80W charging is amazing.
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I jumped from 6T to 8T

Camera is snappier, fast charging, more battery, faster device.

I moved from OP8T to OP11, and the first big thing is the vastly superior battery life of the 11.
Wiht my OP8T I had grown used to the idea that i would need to take a powerbank with me if i was going to be out all day, and that it would need to be left on charge overnight to ensure it was full in the morning - before going out for day , my new OP11 - at the moment easily lasts all day - and no longer needs an overnight charge
So OP11 has
better battery life
much nicer screen
its faster/ more responsive
havent had enough time to use the camera yet - but first impressions are its an improvement over the 8T

I have the 11 and 8T and much prefer my 8T. I'm actually actively trying to sell my 11. I probably would have a different opinion if OnePlus didn't take away a person's rights to fix their phones themselves with MSM, but that's mostly an Oppo issue. I tinker with my 8T because I know if I botch something, MSM will save my ass.

RussianBear said:
I just can't seem to justify paying full retail for this thing. It'd have to be that much better than 8T for me to drop near 1k (looking for max specs) on a new phone. Their 100 day gimmick is cool, tho lol
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Then you can wait a bit for a lower price and I think the 100 day offer ended on April 30th. I've upgraded from both OP6 and 9 and I think it was worth it. Some people have hardware issues as it happens with any brand, while some just need a factory reset to straight up things. Everything is running perfectly here. Everything launches faster, haven't had heat issues, not even with Maps and the five year updates gives the thing longevity. Battery life is also lasting much more than OP9 despite using OOS. The only thing I wish is to once more have tools like MSM publicly available and of course, custom development which might come one day.