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Load Rom THEN phone settings?? HELP!?

Gentlemen,
I've rooted my GS3 - works flawlessly. Id like to start experimenting with various ROMS. My questions is
once I've done an android backup with CWM, and the new ROM is loaded, how do I reinstall all of my apps,
and settings (mail,etc)?? I have Titanium backup installed and have backed up each of the important apps one
by one.......
Easier way? That could take hours to recreate.
THanks
DSSKing
(14 years on a blackberry..... made the Android jump!)

Generally restoring phone settings between different ROMs isn't a great idea and can lead to various problems.
You can have you apps reinstalled automatically when you login to Google on first boot.

It reinstals apps on installing google mail??????? HOW?
Now I'm really peaked about loading a new rom..........
TheFiveDots said:
Generally restoring phone settings between different ROMs isn't a great idea and can lead to various problems.
You can have you apps reinstalled automatically when you login to Google on first boot.
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dssking said:
It reinstals apps on installing google mail??????? HOW?
Now I'm really peaked about loading a new rom..........
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Usually when you boot Android for the first time, you're asked to put in your Google credentials - these are used for Gmail, but also to log you in to the Play Store. Then there is usually an option to restore the phone, and it will proceed to download all of your apps.

If you buy the pro key for titanium backup it automates the backup and restore process. And it is fine to restore apps and data (not system data) from one ROM to another. I even restored apps and data from my Atrix to my S3.
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Titanium Backup TiBu and Android 10

Recently updated to Android 10 Q
I have had zero luck in getting Titanium Backup to work properly. Even when trying to restore data, it causes the app the crash resulting in me needing to uninstall and reinstall (not even wiping data helps).
Any steps I need to follow?
I have root with Magisk 19.4 (patched boot img), latest Q update (.c).
I'd really love to get this working as otherwise I'll have lost all SMS data. I backed up before wiping my phone, but the Google backup wasn't available for me to restore from...even my plan B is failing X^D

MeetFace said:
Recently updated to Android 10 Q
I have had zero luck in getting Titanium Backup to work properly. Even when trying to restore data, it causes the app the crash resulting in me needing to uninstall and reinstall (not even wiping data helps).
Any steps I need to follow?
I have root with Magisk 19.4 (patched boot img), latest Q update (.c).
I'd really love to get this working as otherwise I'll have lost all SMS data. I backed up before wiping my phone, but the Google backup wasn't available for me to restore from...even my plan B is failing X^D
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I got around to doing a full flash yesterday (even full flashed both slots) with the .c factory image. Also got the canary MM and canary Magisk updates early this morning. TiBa is working fine for me. Just a shot in the dark, but are you running EdXposed or any other modules/modifications (Substratum themes) that could be causing issues? The only modules I have loaded are MagiskHide Props Config, Active Edge System Mod and systemless hosts. My BusyBox is Stericson and not the module.

sliding_billy said:
I got around to doing a full flash yesterday (even full flashed both slots) with the .c factory image. Also got the canary MM and canary Magisk updates early this morning. TiBa is working fine for me. Just a shot in the dark, but are you running EdXposed or any other modules/modifications (Substratum themes) that could be causing issues? The only modules I have loaded are MagiskHide Props Config, Active Edge System Mod and systemless hosts. My BusyBox is Stericson and not the module.
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No other modules or mods installed, not even a custom kernel at that point., but I found that part of my problem is that TiBu corrupted my messages backup. It took the better part of an hour to back up, but the backup file is only about 350 KB...I'm crestfallen, lol. Never had an issue like that with TiBu, been using it for years. Didn't even think to check that the backup was saved properly.
Lol, I woke up this morning and flashed back to Android Pie so I could restore my messages in TiBU, and then back them up some other way and then roll forward to 10...only to discover this. Talk about salt in the wound.

MeetFace said:
No other modules or mods installed, not even a custom kernel at that point., but I found that part of my problem is that TiBu corrupted my messages backup. It took the better part of an hour to back up, but the backup file is only about 350 KB...I'm crestfallen, lol. Never had an issue like that with TiBu, been using it for years. Didn't even think to check that the backup was saved properly.
Lol, I woke up this morning and flashed back to Android Pie so I could restore my messages in TiBU, and then back them up some other way and then roll forward to 10...only to discover this. Talk about salt in the wound.
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Glad it worked out. I don't use TiBa for messages. I use SMS backup and Restore. I absolutely love that app.

sliding_billy said:
Glad it worked out. I don't use TiBa for messages. I use SMS backup and Restore. I absolutely love that app.
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+1 for SMS backup and Restore. Although I use TiBu, I never restore anything but user apps with it.

Tried updating to Canary Magisk, still no love.
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MeetFace said:
Recently updated to Android 10 Q
I have had zero luck in getting Titanium Backup to work properly. Even when trying to restore data, it causes the app the crash resulting in me needing to uninstall and reinstall (not even wiping data helps).
Any steps I need to follow?
I have root with Magisk 19.4 (patched boot img), latest Q update (.c).
I'd really love to get this working as otherwise I'll have lost all SMS data. I backed up before wiping my phone, but the Google backup wasn't available for me to restore from...even my plan B is failing X^D
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There is an add-on for Titanium on apk mirror. Install it and TB will work.

I have the exact same issue as OP. I'm trying to restore my SMS messages on 10 with TiBu. I'm on 10, rooted, with Magisk 19.4. Every time I go to restore my SMS data, TiBu just hangs and I have to force close it.
Any other ideas on how I could restore these messages?
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madscribblerz said:
There is an add-on for Titanium on apk mirror. Install it and TB will work.
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It's already installed. TiBu installed it automatically
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C5Longhorn said:
I have the exact same issue as OP. I'm trying to restore my SMS messages on 10 with TiBu. I'm on 10, rooted, with Magisk 19.4. Every time I go to restore my SMS data, TiBu just hangs and I have to force close it.
Any other ideas on how I could restore these messages?
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If you have a large message archive, it can take 30-45 minutes to restore. Maybe it's working
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MeetFace said:
If you have a large message archive, it can take 30-45 minutes to restore. Maybe it's working
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It turned out that I needed to make TiBu the default SMS app for the restore. Once I did that it worked right away.

C5Longhorn said:
It turned out that I needed to make TiBu the default SMS app for the restore. Once I did that it worked right away.
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Didn't TiBu prompt you to do that?

Not that I'm aware. It may have a couple of weeks ago, but not this latest time.
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The solution to this is to disable "Verify apps over USB" in developer settings.

Solution to backing up SNS taking so long?
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SMS backup fail on Q
Techvir said:
The solution to this is to disable "Verify apps over USB" in developer settings.
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Backup sms/mms fails with most recent AOSP 10 (Pixel 3a). Manually changing default messaging app (no notification popup) doesn't work either. I guess TB isn't supported after Pie.

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Backup sms/mms fails with most recent AOSP 10 (Pixel 3a). Manually changing default messaging app (no notification popup) doesn't work either. I guess TB isn't supported after Pie.
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I heard that. Anyone who's been around this scene a while knows at one time it was great and a must for all users.
You can send logs in to TBU bug tracker web page. I'm sure they have a lot of people sending logs and writing them and it's probably hard to keep up but I sent some logs not long ago.. I never saw anything updated or anything because of my logs but...? I sent the maximum amount you can at a time and then filled out another report and sent more. Who knows...
I've been using Migrate NG from here on xda to backup my user apps and data from user apps. Works great! Check it out! Also from what I've read Swift app is supposedly the new good backup app that works but if you don't have pro you can only backup one app at a time and same on restore. Not sure why they don't do like a three day trial to let us try if out in pro version before we buy it...But from what I've seen they do not. Definitely check out Migrate app, anyone who hasn't. Works well on my OnePlus6t and the xda thread is active so if for some reason it doesn't work on your device there is help to get it to work.

flash713 said:
I heard that. Anyone who's been around this scene a while knows at one time it was great and a must for all users.
You can send logs in to TBU bug tracker web page. I'm sure they have a lot of people sending logs and writing them and it's probably hard to keep up but I sent some logs not long ago.. I never saw anything updated or anything because of my logs but...? I sent the maximum amount you can at a time and then filled out another report and sent more. Who knows...
I've been using Migrate NG from here on xda to backup my user apps and data from user apps. Works great! Check it out! Also from what I've read Swift app is supposedly the new good backup app that works but if you don't have pro you can only backup one app at a time and same on restore. Not sure why they don't do like a three day trial to let us try if out in pro version before we buy it...But from what I've seen they do not. Definitely check out Migrate app, anyone who hasn't. Works well on my OnePlus6t and the xda thread is active so if for some reason it doesn't work on your device there is help to get it to work.
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I'm just going back to Pie and run it until the wheels fall off (like Kitkat). I don't like a lot of things with Q and breaks too many fundamental legacy apps and features imo. I can't really blame the old school developers for not supporting every autistic brain fart google comes up with.

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I'm just going back to Pie and run it until the wheels fall off (like Kitkat). I don't like a lot of things with Q and breaks too many fundamental legacy apps and features imo. I can't really blame the old school developers for not supporting every autistic brain fart google comes up with.
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I loved pie!! There are some awesome substratum themes too that lost support after pie... I hear you man. Many roms imo seemed to be better on android 9 than now. I used to like when android evolved and up graded to next version and now I don't because of exactly what you're saying here. You look at a nexus device back on say 7.12 and then now... Sure battery is better optimized nowadays but in my opinion those were the best times for android. More roms, themes, sound mods that were made universal (arise audio).. Android 7-9 was killer! I just know how much of a security risk it is using things that are that outdated... Especially nowadays! There is probably a way to patch an older version depending on how old it is.. I mean I see roms being made still for nexus 5x that are android 10 based now.. Good luck!

Question Looking for an alternative full backup solution to Titanium.

As the title says, I've been using Titanium for quite some time now and it works very well for the task.
However, I'm looking for an alternative full backup solution to Titanium since it tends to freeze (even though it gets the job done) and the interface is really outdated (sometimes confusing).
Open source and free would be nice, but I'll take a paid app if the asking price is reasonable and app really gets the job done.

What about oandbackup? I used it only once but it did the job.

I use swift backup, it can backup directly to gdrive
I bought it many years ago, but it was fairly inexpensive at the time, it's an IAP so you can check whatever it supports now and see if it works out for you

I have just switched to swift backup from titanium backup because of split apks. Its pretty good and I use migrate for backing up and switching roms.

I'll look into these backup alternatives, I've tried Migrate and I really like it.
I'd like to only one all-in-on backup solution, but I don't mind having two really good apps compromising each other in features.

Can't go wrong with SwiftBackup. Works very well and has a lot of settings and customisations which you can use to adopt it to your usecase

I use Migrate now... I think so far it's the best... also I've Titanium Backup, MyBackup Pro (before)... In the midst of switching to other ones... then I tried Swift Backup... but if you want privacy... and avoiding using Google Backups... This is not an option... it is very annoying that every time installing this app, you have to make the app go online to phone home and tie to your Google Account first... even I just want to do offline local backup... I've decided not to pay for it, was intended to pay, after hearing all the praises about Split APKs. Also recently I used it (Swift Backup) to backup... I have problem restoring an app... with some error of an app. I won't count on this one too much.

Swiftbackup
Stupidly painless

No Google or Miui Cloud backups here...
Does TWRP backup work for the Poco F3 yet and how does it work exactly (never actually backup up with TWRP)?

Nemix77 said:
No Google or Miui Cloud backups here...
Does TWRP backup work for the Poco F3 yet and how does it work exactly (never actually backup up with TWRP)?
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Over twrp I have a backup made, but I have not yet restored, so I can not guarantee. recovery functionality

Nemix77 said:
No Google or Miui Cloud backups here...
Does TWRP backup work for the Poco F3 yet and how does it work exactly (never actually backup up with TWRP)?
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The previous TWRP didn't restore my backup. I haven't tested the latest release however seeing the development discussions they've been focusing on ROM flashing and zip flashing so backup restore has not been prioritized so I assume it still doesn't work yet

Swift Backup + Migrate looks likes a good alternative full backup solution to Titanium Backup.
I'm still testing it out, but so far so good...thanks again guys.

Neo Backup (formerly OAndBackupX) can be a really good option if someone is still looking for backup tool. And Migrate-GPE for changing ROM and stuff.

Question Good backup options?

Hello everyone!
I pre-ordered my Pixel 6 Pro and received it a couple of weeks ago. I did not immediately unlock the bootloader as I didn't see the need (as I would need to wipe anyway once I install a Google-spyware-free ROM.) However, since development is proceeding smoothly enough (thanks to everyone who's working hard on that!) I'm starting to look at options of how to back up my data in case of a future wipe.
In the golden days of Android development, I used to use Titanium (with root), which also worked without root, really. What do people use nowadays (beyond Google) to back up their Android phones?
Thanks a lot in advance!

SwiftBackup

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SwiftBackup
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There really is no other answer than this one. Migrate is fantastic too - but Swift backup is objectively better. It really is just click/press button and forget, in ease of use.
Some apps don't properly back up each respective app properly, which is why I still use tibu for some things. But I find myself using tibu less and less.

ROOT:
Code:
echo "Demonstrates fzf for interactive selection of multiple packages"
for APP in $(pm list packages | fzf -m)
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APP=$( echo ${APP} | sed "s/^package://")
adb backup -f ${APP}.backup ${APP}
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for APP in $(adb shell pm list packages | grep -E 'accubattery|betterbatterystats|etc|etc|etc')
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APP=$( echo ${APP} | sed "s/^package://")
adb backup -f ${APP}.backup ${APP}
done

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SwiftBackup
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From what I've read, and for what most backup apps are capable of, if you wanna backup app data you have to be rooted.
If you're stock then some developers can limit adb backup from even taking place, so I'm finding options are limited the longer you go without rooting right away.

I talked to the SwiftBackup support yesteday ( old phone OnePlus, new phone pixel ) and was told my "true" backup/restore solution would be with root... Less than root would not get me done.
( so root means TiB pro ? ? ? ) ( ouch, last updated on: November 24th, 2019)

I hate that Android backups are devoid of data backup unless you're rooted or a developer allows you to do such a thing in a vanilla backup. It shouldn't be a choice and should be standard across all apps. It's one area where I prefer apple backups to Android.

old_fart said:
I talked to the SwiftBackup support yesteday ( old phone OnePlus, new phone pixel ) and was told my "true" backup/restore solution would be with root... Less than root would not get me done.
( so root means TiB pro )
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Yeah, but Swift is objectively better as a general backup tool than TiBu these days

yes I meant as rooted backup tool Swift is better
I used to use TiBi but it no longer worked on backing up sms from android 10 so I switched to Swift.
Swift is not as fast and yes one or two apps backup does not work but I found support pretty good

Just checked Swift Backup and even without root it does seem like a valid option. My only concern is that requires a Google login to use? I imagine that, unlike Google's actual Android backup, this would work even without gapps installed (potentially), but just wondering if anyone could confirm that?

From other devices I used to use TWRP backup by just hooking each and every partition and copying the backup file to the PC afterwards. If anything went wrong I simply restored the TWRP backup. Is there a way to do this kind of backup manually from the PC?

RetroTech07 said:
I hate that Android backups are devoid of data backup unless you're rooted or a developer allows you to do such a thing in a vanilla backup. It shouldn't be a choice and should be standard across all apps. It's one area where I prefer apple backups to Android.
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Any app that has been updated to institute Google's standard of cloud backups (started what, at least 3-4 years ago?) will have its app data backed up. I blame the developers who choose not to do this when it would be very helpful.
Non-root would be half pointless if you could have full access to all your apps' data including the ability to edit it.

roirraW edor ehT said:
Any app that has been updated to institute Google's standard of cloud backups (started what, at least 3-4 years ago?) will have its app data backed up. I blame the developers who choose not to do this when it would be very helpful.
Non-root would be half pointless if you could have full access to all your apps' data including the ability to edit it.
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I'd like to root, but would have to sift through all of the new info that's been provided. It'll take some time going from beginning to end, but never do I worry about backups because I'm in control of my data.
When I transitioned over from my old pixel 2xl to the 6 with the data transfer, none of my apps retained data or login info. It's kinda pointless for the transfer to have to redownload every single app and retain nothing except SMS. I don't understand why the process sucks as bad as it does. Why can't it just transfer everything from one device to another? I might as well just not even bother with it and should have rooted it then.

Nekromantik said:
yes I meant as rooted backup tool Swift is better
I used to use TiBi but it no longer worked on backing up sms from android 10 so I switched to Swift.
Swift is not as fast and yes one or two apps backup does not work but I found support pretty good
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There's a good SMS/MMS backup app in the play store that I have used for many years if you'd ever like to try it. I understand you're using swift, but this app doesn't require root to work.

If you are rooted, OAndBackupX is a great tool... It's free and open-source, and a fully featured product. It has some limited capabilities without root, but if you want a full backup with app data, you'd need root.
GitHub - NeoApplications/Neo-Backup: backup manager for android
backup manager for android. Contribute to NeoApplications/Neo-Backup development by creating an account on GitHub.
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Neo Backup | F-Droid - Free and Open Source Android App Repository
The open-source tool to backup your apps and data
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For SMS, MMS & RCS backup, you can try SMS Backup & Restore (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.riteshsahu.SMSBackupRestore). RCS support is still experimental, but SMS & MMS backup & restore works well.

Just a reminder: Because of the requirement to disable dm-verity and vbmeta verification when flashing a patched boot image, you will have to wipe data when doing so. If you have not yet unlocked your bootloader, this is a non issue, as you can disable AVB after unlocking the bootloader.

General Bad Google

I get frustrated with Google backup and restore due to the fact that sometimes it does not restore everything during initial setup. Add to that that you can't do a manual restore such as SMS or Call Logs..... Trying to get in the habit of using SwiftBackup instead!

Yes, feel your pain! I using SMS Backup and Restore app for my SMS & Call logs...

Weird... always works fine for me. What gapps are you using?

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Weird... always works fine for me. What gapps are you using?
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Stock Gapps in stock firmware. Doesn't happen all the time but when it does it means factory reset and setup phone again which is lost time and effort.

TheGhost1951 said:
Stock Gapps in stock firmware. Doesn't happen all the time but when it does it means factory reset and setup phone again which is lost time and effort.
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google only works good in pixel , also that bug is very frustrating

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sometimes it does not restore everything during initial setup.
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You are lucky cause it does not even backup anything for me neither on stock or custom at all. Happens in both of my different phones. Been like this for couple of months. Swift backup is gucci

TheGhost1951 said:
I get frustrated with Google backup and restore due to the fact that sometimes it does not restore everything during initial setup. Add to that that you can't do a manual restore such as SMS or Call Logs..... Trying to get in the habit of using SwiftBackup instead!
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Same here. All google backup does for me is reinstall all my apps. I use sms backup and restore for text messages and call logs. I miss the days when I could restore everything with titanium backup, so I didn't have to log back into 37,000 different apps every time I flash a rom.

Masterchief87 said:
Same here. All google backup does for me is reinstall all my apps. I use sms backup and restore for text messages and call logs. I miss the days when I could restore everything with titanium backup, so I didn't have to log back into 37,000 different apps every time I flash a rom.
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Yeah, I use SwiftBackup for apps and data, SMS and Call Logs as well. Better than Google for sure!

TheGhost1951 said:
Yeah, I use SwiftBackup for apps and data, SMS and Call Logs as well. Better than Google for sure!
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Can swift actually restore app data like titanium used to? Is swift basically the new titanium backup? I've been on hiatus for the last few years. Last time I was active here super partitions and a/b slots weren't a thing and titanium still worked.

Masterchief87 said:
Can swift actually restore app data like titanium used to? Is swift basically the new titanium backup? I've been on hiatus for the last few years. Last time I was active here super partitions and a/b slots weren't a thing and titanium still worked.
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It has worked well for me, including some app logins etc.... Rooted only though!

Masterchief87 said:
Can swift actually restore app data like titanium used to? Is swift basically the new titanium backup? I've been on hiatus for the last few years. Last time I was active here super partitions and a/b slots weren't a thing and titanium still worked.
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I'd say that, yes, Swift Backup is the new Titanium Backup. I've had absolutely no problem backing up and restoring all of my apps, as well as SMS messages, call logs, and wi-fi networks, on the latest and greatest Android releases. Titanium's biggest issue vis-a-vis app backups is that it doesn't support the new "split APK" format; every time it tries to restore one, it hangs. I'm pretty sure that some of its esoteric features still work, but given that it hasn't been updated since November 2019, and that its major use (app backup/restore) is crippled, I'd classify it as dead in the water.