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Yes, yes, it's possible to love a phone. Heck, you sleep next to it, don't you? Rate this thread to indicate your love for the Asus ZenFone 3 Zoom, all things considered. A higher rating indicates that the Asus ZenFone 3 Zoom is an incredible phone that you enjoy tremendously. You love it.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
I wanted a stable, smooth phone with a super long battery life. This is it!
Coming from the Galaxy Note 3, this phone is an improvement in every way.
Everything except durability.
Just got this phone a few days ago, LOVE IT.
I really like the ZenMotion stuff too, usually I'd have to root to get stuff like that on other devices.
I dumped my old S5 for this phone back in August '17... it's been the best phone that I've owned to date.
Never regretted getting it, I liked the long battery life and it's good photography.
For $300.00 its a Fantastic Device
Coming from a Nexus 5x that broke while out of town on Vacation I swung in to make an emergency replacement purchase @best buy.
It was my 3rd choice as the first two were out of stock. I was just going to pick anything similar in size with capacitive touch buttons. No flagships because I hate them all (Pixel 2 & 2XL, Anything Samsung, too many short comings for today's devices pushing up on the $1000.00 window)
So, being in a hurry I walked out with the Asus Zenfone 3 Zoom which I have never even heard of. I see its marshmallow and I sunk a little but in a few days I was on Oreo. Dang! OK!
Then I read of white line issues so I'm rolling the dice but its a late production model and so far so good since 5/1/2018 of heavy use and several updates.
But.......... Over the 5x - Call quality and signal strength , WiFi reception, and speaker volume screen brightness in the sun all CRUSH the 5x. Battery Life Is Unreal!
I have my complaints over the out dated 5x although they are minor to a degree,
Slower fingerprint reader (sometimes)
Sometimes a back button lag (rarely)
Slippery when carrying naked (I put a Xiaomi Skin on it)
After Oreo if a memory card is inserted the finger print reader gets slower.
This is going to hold me over while I wait for the Pixel 3, I waited for the OnePlus 6, HTC U12 Plus, and am not impressed. But for $300.00 in the Zenphone 3 Zoom I am.
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Coming from a Nexus 5x that broke while out of town on Vacation I swung in to make an emergency replacement purchase @best buy.
It was my 3rd choice as the first two were out of stock. I was just going to pick anything similar in size with capacitive touch buttons. No flagships because I hate them all (Pixel 2 & 2XL, Anything Samsung, too many short comings for today's devices pushing up on the $1000.00 window)
So, being in a hurry I walked out with the Asus Zenfone 3 Zoom which I have never even heard of. I see its marshmallow and I sunk a little but in a few days I was on Oreo. Dang! OK!
Then I read of white line issues so I'm rolling the dice but its a late production model and so far so good since 5/1/2018 of heavy use and several updates.
But.......... Over the 5x - Call quality and signal strength , WiFi reception, and speaker volume screen brightness in the sun all CRUSH the 5x. Battery Life Is Unreal!
I have my complaints over the out dated 5x although they are minor to a degree,
Slower fingerprint reader (sometimes)
Sometimes a back button lag (rarely)
Slippery when carrying naked (I put a Xiaomi Skin on it)
After Oreo if a memory card is inserted the finger print reader gets slower.
This is going to hold me over while I wait for the Pixel 3, I waited for the OnePlus 6, HTC U12 Plus, and am not impressed. But for $300.00 in the Zenphone 3 Zoom I am.
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Holy sh*t, great post man. I dont need a zenfone 3 zoom but i kinda want one for the EPIC RUN TIME(Pocketnow review) lol. If its served you well and you really like why would you already consider replacing it with the pixel 3? Just curious..
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No flagships because I hate them all (Pixel 2 & 2XL, Anything Samsung, too many short comings for today's devices pushing up on the $1000.00 window)
This is going to hold me over while I wait for the Pixel 3, I waited for the OnePlus 6, HTC U12 Plus, and am not impressed. But for $300.00 in the Zenphone 3 Zoom I am.
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May I ask you to elaborate a bit further regarding the above statements? I believe I'm missing something, as my interpretation of them currently, is something like if I said, "I hate anything with nuts in it, peanuts, almonds, cashew, ect... I'll never eat anything made with them in it. BTW, since you didn't wanna share yours earlier, can you grab me a king size, Reese's PB cup and an almond Snickers bar, on your way back? I suddenly got the munchies.."
Heh, You lost me too. Update on the Zenfone 3 Zoom, it got wet and the screen and/or digitizer needs to be replaced. It boots to the pin screen but is unresponsive to touches.
The ONLY 2 complaints I have on the device is when you insert an SDCard in the expansion slot the phone developes lag, especially when unlocking via finger print. This is with a Sandisk Ultra. And like most devices these days its slippery to hold.
Keep in mind I am a google android & nexus fan boy since their releases. Wanting to upgrade from the 5x I was let down by the google pixel price hikes and the newer ones with screen burn and color issues and lousy speakers. Seems Google is getting into greed and feature hype marketing. Yes they have a great camera but who cares. Not me anyway. I'm a semi pro photographer and know whats going on there.
Samsung no unlocking boot loader and root and android butchering. Overpriced and form over function as in being slippery, easy to damage glass, and the wrap around screens most of my friends complain about.
The HTC U12, Dahum! What a monster of a great device but for the BUTTONS! The hardware and features in this phone are the max but they committed suicide by button! I have handled one with the so-called button fix and its still less than sure footed. Enough for me to avoid the purchase.
Oneplus 6, Caugh! Ahem! Back Stroke! Choking on a little Crow, I have one now 8GB RAM - 128GB still within the 15 day trial and have been converted. I love this thing so far. The boot-loader is unlocked, rooted via Magisk running EX Kernel. The device is a performance beast with a great camera.
Yes slippery glass, I have a dbrand dragon skin on it that helps a little, not much, but better, I use their flip case on the job and its great, I chose it over the 6t for the rear FPS & HPjack. I have ear bud sets I don't want to abandon although a USB-c set works via enabling OTG in settings.
Yes coming from the 5x most any new phone is going to be a night and day performance experience but now my upgrade dilemma is over.
I traded in my Note 5, which I loved for the Note 8 and the Note 8 is clearly the best phone I've ever used. That said, 2017 has finally brought compelling competition worth considering.
What I love about the Note 8:
-Hands down the highest quality screen of any phone
-6 GB RAM makes multitasking great
-The camera takes awesome pictures
-The battery life is incredible
-The theme engine allows dark theme without root
-Call quality is outstanding
-The phone is blazing fast 98% of the time
-Headphone Jack
What I don't love about the Note 8:
-The height and weight of the phone. I have large hands and could always manage the Note 5 one handed, but the height of the Note 8 with added weight make it awkward to use in certain situations. I think if the phone were wider, it might balance the weight distribution. Using a Pixel 2 XL and V30, both are much manageable in the hands.
-The forced white navbar is a nuisance for dark themes. Couldn't Samsung offer grays or faded navbar icons to minimize burn in? I use a 3rd party app to mostly mitigate the problem, but not all apps work properly with it.
-The Bixby button. Again, I've used a 3rd party app to mitigate the problem, but it doesn't seem like a polished solution. Samsung just needs to give us options to remap it.
-The curved screen. Yes, it looks great, but the shadows and light refraction make it annoying at times.
Obviously, the pros of the phone greatly outweigh the cons but every time I see someone using a Pixel 2 XL, I am jealous of the more manageable size, the fast and fluid UI that gets updated faster, and the even bigger battery. I am well aware that both the Pixel 2 XL and V30 have far more problems than the Note 8, namely their screens and bluetooth. Being on Verizon, the OnePlus 5T isn't an option, though I love the thought of a phone that has 8 GB RAM and custom ROM capabilities. Maybe I'm just dreaming of a Note 8 running stock Android, and with a flat 18:9 screen ratio instead of 18.5:9 (which seems to account for the length and narrowness). I'm not actually considering switching phones, but I've been tempted to get another flagship to replace my Nexus 6 as a business line. Thoughts?
I got a note 8 and my wife broke the screen of her s7 edge so of course she wanted fixed or a new phone. Gave her my note 8 and got myself an LG V30 thinking that my note 8 was still too big. After 4 hrs I decided I wanted the note 8 back. The note 8 is a superior phone in all ways except for the audio. I traded the v30 for a new blue note 8 in Bestbuy with 300 dollars off. If I have spare money for another phone I would probably get a pixel 2 xl. I watch a lot of videos and YouTube and the 2 speakers in the front appeal to me. For a daily driver I would get bored right away of the pixel. The note 8 could be customized in so many ways that I haven't even installed Nova launcher yet which has been a most in all my previous phones. If you have a note 8 you have the best Android phone currently and period.
Ha, what competition. Note 8 plays in it's own world. It's a beast.
Also with Oreo update it's only better
I had an ASUS Zenfone AR that I got in September. Nothing but problems - which probably explains why VZW pulled it in less than 6 months. After going through 3 Zenfones, I finally convinced VZW to buy it back and got the Note 8 last week.
Size is very good
Wireless charging FTW
Agreed with above points on speed, screen resolution, etc.
First thing I did was install Nova Plus
I played with the advanced Audio settings - including the hearing test and my LG BT Headset sounds amazing!
Theme engine???????
Disabling Bixby and downloading Google Assistant, finding an obscure setting that I can't find again that selects GA as the default and now it works perfect, but it took me a week to get it to work right.
The one thing I DON'T like about the curved screen is that in 2 weeks, I've had 2 tempered glass screen protectors crack and I have to think this is because of the curve. This second one is just a minor hairline at the bottom but the first one was worse.
The other was being reminded that you can't just connect a Samsung to your computer and transfer files >: Still looking for the best way to do that or break down and pay for Wondershare Mobile Go - which may be worth it since you can browse system files
I've only had it a few days.....had to root and debloat and amend some things (adblocker, viperFX...) It's sure is a beautifully designed thing. It's also like having a Mercedes made out of glass. First thing I did when I ordered it was to order a case and screen protector. No way I would go without it, even walking around a carpeted house. But the key reason I got it was that it was rootable and a high end phone. I was coming from a quirky but great V10 and a Note 3 before that. I will simply not have a phone that I can't root.
I like it a lot incredible battery life using a disable of course most crashes are caused by wonky apps..not blazing fast but not real important. I still prefer it over my iphone 6s plus.. not sure which phone is faster, but for a phone, I choose android.. previous phone was LG10,Note4,galaxys4....way better than those
I'm just looking for a upgraded spen device then I'll be content with the note 8
Hey guys.
After so many years I've been with Samsung, it's time to leave them, I really can't stand my Note 3 any more guys (I'm still on 4.4.2 Android)
I was looking for a new phone and I found this device which looks amazing, with excellent specification, good camera, battery life, and clean OS without any crap or anything and the best thing is the price! only 622.39$ for 128GB damn son!
So I decided I'd buy the phone soon but first I have questions I'd love you to help me with
1. How many screen hours do you have? (heavy/basic use)
2. How is the camera? (Rear and front camera) also, I've seen some good reviews about her on youtube but I saw in the official forum of the device bad reviews about her after the last update 5.0.4. how bad is it? ( I don't care about 4K.. just 1080p)
3. things that I should do after I get the phone? better rom or something?
4. is there any bad thing that I should know?
5. Do you recommend the device? If yes/no, explain why
Thank you and please don't tell me to wait for 1+ 6
(I really hate my note 3 guys.. can't stand it anymore)
I had the Galaxy S7 for awhile. I was a Samsung fanboy back in the captivate to S3 days, back when bootloaders were unlocked. With my S3, I was always flashing ROMs that were closer to stock Android. Samsung's flagship phones are beasts, but Samsung's stock ROM just kneecaps the hardware (there truly is no reason for lag when I'm light use). Then the 2013 Moto X came out. No longer was I compelled to flash a ROM that was close to stock, I already had a phone close to stock. Not to mention the extras Motorola (before Lenovo) added to the Moto X made the user experience much more immersive, and did it well. Long story short, Lenovo **** the bed with the 3rd gen Moto X, I couldn't live with an LCD screen, and went back to Samsung soley for the screen. I was then fixed into the horror that is TouchWiz (I don't care what Samsung calls it these days). The OnePlus 5T has brought back, for me, those days with my first Moto X. Sure, it doesn't fit in the hand like the Moto X, but it's curved edges aren't uncomfortable. The screen is just enough. I never notice a difference in sharpness between my S7 and 5T unless I'm trying. I do miss the camera from the S7. Though, with a reasonable amount of effort, this phone can produce wonderful pictures.
That is all.
beefgoat said:
I had the Galaxy S7 for awhile. I was a Samsung fanboy back in the captivate to S3 days, back when bootloaders were unlocked. With my S3, I was always flashing ROMs that were closer to stock Android. Samsung's flagship phones are beasts, but Samsung's stock ROM just kneecaps the hardware (there truly is no reason for lag when I'm light use). Then the 2013 Moto X came out. No longer was I compelled to flash a ROM that was close to stock, I already had a phone close to stock. Not to mention the extras Motorola (before Lenovo) added to the Moto X made the user experience much more immersive, and did it well. Long story short, Lenovo **** the bed with the 3rd gen Moto X, I couldn't live with an LCD screen, and went back to Samsung soley for the screen. I was then fixed into the horror that is TouchWiz (I don't care what Samsung calls it these days). The OnePlus 5T has brought back, for me, those days with my first Moto X. Sure, it doesn't fit in the hand like the Moto X, but it's curved edges aren't uncomfortable. The screen is just enough. I never notice a difference in sharpness between my S7 and 5T unless I'm trying. I do miss the camera from the S7. Though, with a reasonable amount of effort, this phone can produce wonderful pictures.
That is all.
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SGS3 was my first smartphone and I love it but hate so much the bootloaders + TouchWiz, I flash so many roms and stuff
Then I bought the Note 3, damn the phone was so good in the first few months and I flashed one room and delete almost every samsung bootloaders or cancer ****, the phone went from bike to airplane. but.. still had lags and problems like I wrote
and now I'm want to leave Samsung for good and go to oneplus
The screen is still a big thing for me. After nearly a decade of staring at an OLED display, LCD displays simply don't cut it.
Being a Samsung Galaxy S8 user in the past, now using OP5T. I can say that the battery life is incredible. With moderate usage im getting 7.5hrs of screen on time. Yes i must say that moderate usage meaning normal day to day usage with no or very little gaming.
Coming to screen quality its superb. The sharpness and the color reproduction is fantastic. Talking about the camera, im not satisfied firstly because of the fact that the front camera doesnt have portrait mode. Second the rear camera takes shaky or blurry images in moderate lighting condition. In daylight, it will give you awesome photos but when you come to indoor situation, it will tend to produce noise and also the camera produces blurred shots. Lack of filters and some basic options in the camera app.
The UI is super fast. After using this device, you will feel like every other android phone is damn slow. Its so fast.
Now talking about whether you should buy or not. Yes you should buy as this is one hell of a beast in every aspect except the camera. But only buy the 8gb variant if you want 128gb internals not because of the extra ram as the 2gb extra ram doesnt make any difference in performance. Hope i answered all of your questions.
I also shifted to the 5t from Samsung. The phone is good, leaving the camera ofcourse. But there are many flaws which I am finding these days like Samsung Health doesn't work in this phone(you can ignore this point if you didn't use it), wifi hotspot stops when you use the call, getting wideline l1 is a mess as the service centres don't know a thing about it, accepting the call downwards still a mess for me(you can ignore this point too). The screen is good but not as good as Samsung ofcourse. Considering the 6 will have a notch and they will launch a 6t few months later, get a s8+ in the same price. It will have a slot for the memory card too, better camera, better screen, water & dust resistant. Cheers.
I'm coming from a Samsung S4 that replaced a Samsung S2, and I'm very happy that I did.
This was the best battery and performing Smartphone that I have.
I'm experiencing with very heavy usage like lots of hours watching YouTube videos I have 9 to 10 hours of screen on time, for more light usage never less than 7 Hours screen on time.
The camera is it weakness, but it's not that bad at all.
Hi all I'm thinking of switching from my s21 ultra (exynos variant) but been hearing some bad reviews etc of bad battery life and not so good cameras etc on the pixel does any one who ownes a pixel 6 pro know if most of these have been fixed? And would people consider the pixel 6 pro over the s21 ultra or am I best waiting till the s22 thanks
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Hi all I'm thinking of switching from my s21 ultra (exynos variant) but been hearing some bad reviews etc of bad battery life and not so good cameras etc on the pixel does any one who ownes a pixel 6 pro know if most of these have been fixed? And would people consider the pixel 6 pro over the s21 ultra or am I best waiting till the s22 thanks
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hi, i have switched from s21u(exy) and battery on p6 pro is amazing comparing to samsung(9h+ p6 pro / 6h s21u - same usage)(p6pro 42h/one charge / s21u/28h) . not only battery, i like the mini rounded corners of p6 pro, software is good enough(its new), will be better after fex fixes.
Thanks so would you say it's a good choice over the s21 ultra
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Thanks so would you say it's a good choice over the s21 ultra
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yeah, right now best choice, i am selling my s21u
Thanks might get it ordered today and pass down the s21 ultra to the lad
After the Pixel 1 stopped getting updates two years ago, my wife and I finally upgraded to the Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ 512 GB model, because for the first couple of years after the Pixel 1, I was waiting to buy another Pixel until they came out with a 256 GB model, and then by the time they did, I needed a 512 GB model so I still waited.
The Note 10+ hardware is great. I hate the software. I use my personal phone for my work too, my work uses Google for everything, and apparently, it's common with Samsung devices that they have sporadic syncing of GMail and Chat/Hangouts. When I told my brother about the problem I was having (and I did try deep-diving settings about not optimizing for battery usage, and not killing in the background, and even factory reset), my brother, who had only just bought his family their first smartphones maybe 4 years ago and go the Galaxy S9+, said that he assumed that's just the way Android is. It's not. I never encountered such bad GMail and chat syncing and notification behavior on any other phone.
For chat-type notifications, it was hit and miss whether I would receive timely ones. I could never narrow down what made the difference. For GMail, sometimes I wouldn't get a notification of an email until 45 minutes to even 2 hours later. Multi-tasking on the work computer, sometimes I wouldn't look at my GMail browser tab for long periods of time, and my boss likes to use chat quite often too. Half the time, I did happen to see the email in the browser tab, read it, and even deleted it (for non-critical things), and then later on my Samsung would let me know I have that "new" email. I already saw it and deleted it! Crazy.
There were other things Samsung gimped compared to other phones (Do Not Disturb...), and it also managed to duplicate all my contacts in a way that they're not recognized as duplicates so they can't be automatically de-duped.
Thankfully, back on the P6P 512 GB bandwagon, I no longer have those issues, and we quickly sold our Note 10+'s. So my answer is I'd trade any Samsung for a Pixel. Loved the Samsung hardware, but the software just doesn't cut it for me. The only thing I miss from the Note is the stylus from time to time, which would be handy for Pixel's magic eraser when you have to really fine-tune some erasing.
Oh yeah - I haven't had any issues with my battery life in the month I've had the phone. For the last five years, I never quick charge any phone, I only charge once the phone gets down to 25%, and I take the phone off the charger at 75%. I never charge overnight. The Pixel 6/Pro have Adaptive Charge to help battery life, but my 25-75% battery range lasts me 24 hours normally anyway. I don't own any quick chargers except my original Pixel 1 charger, and I don't use it.
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Hi all I'm thinking of switching from my s21 ultra (exynos variant) but been hearing some bad reviews etc of bad battery life and not so good cameras etc on the pixel does any one who ownes a pixel 6 pro know if most of these have been fixed? And would people consider the pixel 6 pro over the s21 ultra or am I best waiting till the s22 thanks
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If multiple days of battery life is a bad thing, or the camera is too good for you.... you might want to stick with the samdung.
brockyneo said:
Hi all I'm thinking of switching from my s21 ultra (exynos variant) but been hearing some bad reviews etc of bad battery life and not so good cameras etc on the pixel does any one who ownes a pixel 6 pro know if most of these have been fixed? And would people consider the pixel 6 pro over the s21 ultra or am I best waiting till the s22 thanks
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I did the same thing, and battery is good after about a week or two. You have to give the adaptive battery time to learn your habits. Not sure where you heard the camera is bad. That's the best part of the phone.
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The only thing I miss from the Note is the stylus from time to time, which would be handy for Pixel's magic eraser when you have to really fine-tune some erasing.
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There are 10 billion options for capacitive screen pokey things on Amazon. I can't tell you which ones I have, because I can't read the font they used to identify themselves, but works pretty good.
Owning currently both devices here I can maybe share a few thoughts, subjective of course as many of those base on what I like/dislike:
Pro S21 Ultra:
+ build quality
+ display quality
+ overall maturity of the software
+ better standby drain
Pro Pixel 6 Pro:
+ genuine, clean Android with less bloat
+ snappier UI
+ active battery life
+ Camera: much lower noise and much better dynamic range in low light
+ Camera: less heavy-handed noise-reduction/resharpening
+ (slightly) less weight
+ much more development friendly (no hassle bootloader unlock without lost warranty, no Knox.....)
All in all I like both phones, what makes me moving back to the S21 Ultra (or maybe again Mi 11U) is memory - sadly Google only sells the P6P with max 256GB in Germany which I find a bit too small for my purpose.....
And a few more words on the camera: Samsung has its own way in image processing and in many cases this leads to loss of details in grass/leaves/.... which I dislike. The Pixel 6 Pro gives much better results here, as with many indoor shots specifically of pets/kids.... So overall I much prefer the Pixel camera, this doesn't mean the Samsung camera is bad, though - it isn't !
The only thing I like about my s21 ultra is the display screen. Other than that, 6 pro tops it off. (The 6 pro is on par with the iPhone 13 max's camera btw) With the exception of the video quality of course. The iPhone is still the king for shooting high quality videos.
I have both. These are the most notable differences that I have noticed in using both extensively over a few weeks.
Everything else not-mentioned seems the same/equivalent between the two devices.
Battery; The Samsung has better battery life out of the box, hands down. I regularly saw 7hour screen time and easily made it 24 hours or more on a single charge. The P6P gets about 4-5hours screen time and only about 20-22hours on a charge.
Can only hope the P6P gets better with updates. I returned my first P6P because I thought something was wrong with it. Unfortunately, the second one is the same. It's bad (for some people, but apparently not everyone).
Temperature; You have to try really hard to make the Samsung work up a sweat. The P6P seems to get warm at random times without much going on (browsing forums, for example). Then other times when you would expect it to get warm (watching videos), it runs perfectly cool. Very strange.
Camera; There's nothing better or easier than the P6P when trying to produce consistent great quality pictures. Despite superior hardware in the Samsung S21 Ultra, overall picture results are handicapped due to inferior software/processing, especially in portrait mode. It has gotten better with updates, but still gets beat handily by P6P.
Size and Weight; The P6P is more hand/pocket friendly. It is noticeably thinner and lighter than the S21 Ultra, making it more comfortable in the pockets that I carry it in (back pocket or front shirt pocket). The S21 Ultra feels like a small cinder block in the pocket compare to the P6P.
Charging; Despite better technical sheet specs for the P6P, it charges inconsistently and slower than the S21 Ultra. It's not by a small margin either, P6P takes about 2x longer.
It also tends to get warm to the point of thorttling during charging. The S21 Ultra is consistent, and charges very fast and doesnt get very warm (certainly never throttles).
Software; I suppose this could be preference. If you like the Samsung software look and feel, then it's perfectly fine. It really runs almost flawlessly compared to older TouchWiz crap from Samsung. I prefer the look and feel of pure android from Google.
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I have both. These are the most notable differences that I have noticed in using both extensively over a few weeks.
Everything else not-mentioned seems the same/equivalent between the two devices.
Battery; The Samsung has better battery life out of the box, hands down. I regularly saw 7hour screen time and easily made it 24 hours or more on a single charge. The P6P gets about 4-5hours screen time and only about 20-22hours on a charge.
Can only hope the P6P gets better with updates. I returned my first P6P because I thought something was wrong with it. Unfortunately, the second one is the same. It's bad (for some people, but apparently not everyone).
Temperature; You have to try really hard to make the Samsung work up a sweat. The P6P seems to get warm at random times without much going on (browsing forums, for example). Then other times when you would expect it to get warm (watching videos), it runs perfectly cool. Very strange.
Camera; There's nothing better or easier than the P6P when trying to produce consistent great quality pictures. Despite superior hardware in the Samsung S21 Ultra, overall picture results are handicapped due to inferior software/processing, especially in portrait mode. It has gotten better with updates, but still gets beat handily by P6P.
Size and Weight; The P6P is more hand/pocket friendly. It is noticeably thinner and lighter than the S21 Ultra, making it more comfortable in the pockets that I carry it in (back pocket or front shirt pocket). The S21 Ultra feels like a small cinder block in the pocket compare to the P6P.
Charging; Despite better technical sheet specs for the P6P, it charges inconsistently and slower than the S21 Ultra. It's not by a small margin either, P6P takes about 2x longer.
It also tends to get warm to the point of thorttling during charging. The S21 Ultra is consistent, and charges very fast and doesnt get very warm (certainly never throttles).
Software; I suppose this could be preference. If you like the Samsung software look and feel, then it's perfectly fine. It really runs almost flawlessly compared to older TouchWiz crap from Samsung. I prefer the look and feel of pure android from Google.
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I think a lot of what you're putting down as negatives against P6P comes down to gservices and broken "pixel features". I'm running pure (google free) AOSP on mine. I pulled it off the charger this morning at 5:30 (7.5 hours ago). Currently have 1.5 hr screen on time and the battery is at 92%, and so far the battery gauge appears to be pretty linear. I've also NOT noticed ANY substantial heating up. It runs pretty cool consistently -- note that heat comes from the battery, so it makes sense.
Also, there is no magic battery BS in AOSP.
I upgraded from a Note 20 Ultra 512Gb and the battery on my P6P is phenomenal compared to the Note 20. There have been issues for some on the P6P but I've been using my 512Gb unlocked variant with no issue at all. Just make sure you set your P6P from scratch and don't transfer data from your S21 Ultra. Also the standby drain is the best I've ever had, took it off the charger at 9PM at 100% and at 8:30 the next morning was at 99%. Not everyone is having the same results that I have.
I had both for a while. S21 ultra for the last 9 months. Tested them side by side . I don't think the pixel is better than the s21 in any single way, they are actually so similar. I prefer the maturer Samsung email and calendar software but that's subjective. The biggest difference, which matters for me was that the pixel has more global 5g and LTE bands than the s21. I used Nova and mimicked the s21 completely. Really couldn't tell the difference except screen better on s21 IMHO.
if I didn't already own the s21 I would have bought the pixel but because they are so similar and it isn't an upgrade but more a move to the side, the change didn't make sense.
Display, build quality, signal quality and probably smoothness are all better on the s21U. However I prefer the camera on the P6P and also Pixel Android to OneUI. The S21U is a solid, well built device and I don't think the P6P is an upgrade, if anything it's a slight downgrade.
Thanks for all the replys I'm still on the fence at the minute lol,can I root the pixel 6 pro and have no problems like knox,drm keys etc like other devices have? And if ibdecude to want to unroot can it be returned back to totally factory as if it was never rooted? I haven't rooted for years and miss been able to uninstall apps etc and is viper4android still going strong or is there another app in its place thanks
Stick with the S21 Ultra. I went from a Note 20 Ultra to the Pixel 6 Pro. I love the camera, the better speakers, cleaner software experience, but overall it doesn't feel like an upgrade. The 5G reception is slightly worse, Android 12 has lots of quirks, charging speeds are much slower, and customization is currently very limited. It's possible that it will improve with updates and custom ROMs but its current state is underwhelming. To be honest, I'm already looking forward to the S22 Ultra.
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Thanks for all the replys I'm still on the fence at the minute lol,can I root the pixel 6 pro and have no problems like knox,drm keys etc like other devices have? And if ibdecude to want to unroot can it be returned back to totally factory as if it was never rooted? I haven't rooted for years and miss been able to uninstall apps etc and is viper4android still going strong or is there another app in its place thanks
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Yep, no bad sides to rooting or later unrooting at all, just jump through some well established hoops as far as banking apps are concerned. It didn't bother me and it was the first time I ever did what I needed for safety net and banking apps to not know I'm rooted. No one can tell you ever had it rooted if you re-lock the bootloader after restoring to 100% stock and then factory reset, which will re-disable the OEM unlock option on Developer Options.
You just never can automatically update to each months OTA, have to follow the proper manual procedure to update and stay rooted. I did it every month for over three years that I had the Pixel 1.
If you value the camera, root and stock Android then get the Pixel. If you don't value those then stick with the S21U. I came from the S21U so I can honestly tell you that the S21U is definitely a better all around device but the fact that I can root really made my decision easier to go with the Pixel. No, the Pixel isn't any smoother than the S21U as I've had both; they are pretty much the same in the smoothness department. Anyone who disagrees is lying to themselves.
I recently upgraded from the Pixel 5 which I loved and where I thought that it cannot become better. Until I just upgraded to the Pixel 6 Pro. After reading all the issues and problems people seem to have here I was a bit worried. But everything works perfectly, the battery life is awesome and the in screen fingerprint sensor is fast and very reliable. The only thing I kind of miss is the smaller screen size, but I am starting to enjoy the bigger screen more and more https://9apps.ooo/.
I enjoy mine too. The first six months were bad with tons of bugs but with the 13 beta the phone is really good.
It shouldn't have taken that long though.
Wish I could have one!!!
Nikhil15 said:
Wish I could have one!!!
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https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixel/comments/wha36e
--> so far 3 people were able to buy it at target for less than $300 after taxes. Others are getting it for $450+ tax.
Good to hear you are enjoying your Pixel. I like mine too. Wouldn't say it's my favorite phone of all time, but it's good and just reliable. My unit was never buggy - I guess I'm lucky?
My only issue with it is how warm it can get even during light, NON GAMING usage. Best remedy I've found (so far) is Android 13 beta 4.1 with Despair kernel. Dunno what magic this kernel has but the phone will stay reasonably cool for a longer time, compared to before.
Also I really don't understand the complaints about the fingerprint scanner. I literally have a S22 Ultra as my secondary phone, which has an ultrasonic FP scanner and it's regarded as one of the fastest on the market according to reviews. Yes it's extremely fast, but I don't mind the slightly slower, optical one on the Pixel. My thumb absolutely never gets rejected, unless I have wet hands or something.
I think Pixel 6 Pro is the worst phone I ever had but it's the best camera. Anything about connectivity is so unstable about this phone. Having to go to airplane mode and back in order to bring back connectivity.
I agree, awesome phone, but without face unlock I will have to switch My hands are constantly wet/dirty at work so face unlock is a must for me now.
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I think Pixel 6 Pro is the worst phone I ever had but it's the best camera. Anything about connectivity is so unstable about this phone. Having to go to airplane mode and back in order to bring back connectivity.
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never had this problem, and I travel a lot world wide.
I just ditched mine for a s22 ultra. Pixel 6 pro had me so frustrated that I was ready to jump ship and go iPhone.
I wish I did this from day one when I found out about this missing face unlock and didn't even wish to receive my pre order.
Besides the face unlock; the finger print scanner doesn't work and the phone is just plagued with issues.
The screen on my s22 ultra is so nice that when I go back to the p6 to look up old info etc; the screen of that p6 feels like going to iphone 1 compared to the s22
A12 was buggy asf but 13 beta 4.1 has been a lot better for me. Idk if sdmaid was the culprit, but 12 would lag so much I would be having an anxiety attack every time I used the thing. A13 is very stable. I love my p6pro
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I recently upgraded from the Pixel 5 which I loved and where I thought that it cannot become better. Until I just upgraded to the Pixel 6 Pro. After reading all the issues and problems people seem to have here I was a bit worried. But everything works perfectly, the battery life is awesome and the in screen fingerprint sensor is fast and very reliable. The only thing I kind of miss is the smaller screen size, but I am starting to enjoy the bigger screen more and more.
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