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Button press input lag for a few hours a day

Does anyone else get input lag (that lasts for a few minutes to hours) each day?
Every day (most of the time at around the same time) I'll get horrible input lag that will last from a few minutes to hours that will make the button presses on the remote take 3+ seconds just to register and execute on the Fire TV.
I sideloaded an app to check the CPU usage and it doesn't seem like there is any major CPU usage when I'm experiencing input lag.
This is a very annoying problem with my Fire TV and I'm not sure if other people experience the same problem.

If you have root access,you can use Trickster Mod after installing busybox to increase GPU performance by setting the Govern to performance.
This will partially overclock it to always run 400Mhz instead of going down to lower values which causes inconvenient lags.
I managed to get extremely fast performance after enough consecutive hours of on-time.
You could also get Kernel Tuner to make sure all four CPU cores are enabled and at the proper .384-1.7 settings.
My CPU0 was strangely disabled with the maximum clock on zero but I enabled the core by sliding it to 1.7 where it should actually be.
There is some hidden buttons on the main screen for turning CPU1,2,and 3 on/off you can find with the arrow keys.
You can also set your color bit depth to 32bit or 16bit while 24bit is the default for some reason.
Mine runs perfectly fine on 32bit and it appears to look much sharper.
Why is the default set to 24bit when 32bit works fine and looks better?

retroben said:
If you have root access,you can use Trickster Mod after installing busybox to increase GPU performance by setting the Govern to performance.
This will partially overclock it to always run 400Mhz instead of going down to lower values which causes inconvenient lags.
I managed to get extremely fast performance after enough consecutive hours of on-time.
You could also get Kernel Tuner to make sure all four CPU cores are enabled and at the proper .384-1.7 settings.
My CPU0 was strangely disabled with the maximum clock on zero but I enabled the core by sliding it to 1.7 where it should actually be.
There is some hidden buttons on the main screen for turning CPU1,2,and 3 on/off you can find with the arrow keys.
You can also set your color bit depth to 32bit or 16bit while 24bit is the default for some reason.
Mine runs perfectly fine on 32bit and it appears to look much sharper.
Why is the default set to 24bit when 32bit works fine and looks better?
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Won't this cause the FTV to overheat? I'm thinking about doing this myself, but wouldn't want to cause any premature damage for a slight increase in performance.

The GPU is not far from max when set to normal mode.
It would usually stick around 320Mhz while occasionally going up to 400Mhz.
The heat has not been much different with performance mode keeping the GPU at 400Mhz.
Don't mess with the Quad-Core CPU modification,because that is the main thing that might overheat you.
I keep mine completely on default apart from enabling that one strangely disabled CPU core.
Out of 212F possible degrees,Trickster Mod's Temperature Info reads out 120F right now after quite a few hours of usage while the "battery" says 86F.

retroben said:
The GPU is not far from max when set to normal mode.
It would usually stick around 320Mhz while occasionally going up to 400Mhz.
The heat has not been much different with performance mode keeping the GPU at 400Mhz.
Don't mess with the Quad-Core CPU modification,because that is the main thing that might overheat you.
I keep mine completely on default apart from enabling that one strangely disabled CPU core.
Out of 212F possible degrees,Trickster Mod's Temperature Info reads out 120F right now after quite a few hours of usage while the "battery" says 86F.
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Ok thanks I'll give it a try.

I also recently acquired two nice apps that use root to customize settings for a major performance boost in general and with "touch" related performance as well.
I have noticed a smoother touch scroll in browsers,faster menus,and app loading speeds.
The two apps are called Performance Booster and Digitizer Booster.
Performance:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gejos.android.performancebooster
Digitizer Booster (responsive touch):
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gejos.android.digitizerbooster
There is also some donate and pro versions of Performance Booster that allow double boost and triple boost.

retroben said:
If you have root access,you can use Trickster Mod after installing busybox to increase GPU performance by setting the Govern to performance.
This will partially overclock it to always run 400Mhz instead of going down to lower values which causes inconvenient lags.
I managed to get extremely fast performance after enough consecutive hours of on-time.
You could also get Kernel Tuner to make sure all four CPU cores are enabled and at the proper .384-1.7 settings.
My CPU0 was strangely disabled with the maximum clock on zero but I enabled the core by sliding it to 1.7 where it should actually be.
There is some hidden buttons on the main screen for turning CPU1,2,and 3 on/off you can find with the arrow keys.
You can also set your color bit depth to 32bit or 16bit while 24bit is the default for some reason.
Mine runs perfectly fine on 32bit and it appears to look much sharper.
Why is the default set to 24bit when 32bit works fine and looks better?
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Hey Retroben,
Can you do a posting with all your tips in the forum? your tips have greatly helped me out. Im sure many will greatly appreciate the performance boosts you helped us get.

I got to gather my findings before I can,but I'll see what I can do.
The major speed increase with GPU Govern set to "performance" while 400Mhz is my biggest accomplishment of findings.
I will need to devise a series of steps for each of my findings,so it might take a long while.
The 32bit Color Depth does seem a lot more vibrant and crisper than 24bit.

If anyone is curious, I found out that having a controller plugged in can cause the random input lag.
Someone had mentioned that on another website so I unplugged my xbox controller from the Fire TV and I haven't had any input lag since then.

retroben said:
Performance:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gejos.android.performancebooster
Digitizer Booster (responsive touch):
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gejos.android.digitizerbooster
There is also some donate and pro versions of Performance Booster that allow double boost and triple boost.
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I'm curious about what these apps actually do. The dev won't say; it looks like a lot of it build.prop style tweaks but I'm not sure if it's directly editing the file or adding a loadable script someplace.
On the 24 vs 32 bit color: it's not clear to me that for a TV screen, there's an advantage to 32 bit color. There will be a performance improvement in graphics, as the GPU is calculating many fewer bits per pixel.
The 8 bit and 24 bit images in the Wikipedia article are pretty interesting to look at on a display. I'm surpised by how similar they are on my computer display at its normal 32 bit resolution:
8 bit
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
versus 24 bit
An excellent interactive comparison of bit depths is at
http://www.cambridgeincolour.com/tutorials/bit-depth.htm
IF I can extract the tv from the teenager anytime soon, like tomorrow, I'll look at that cambridge image on the set as well. On the computer, at 16 or 32 bit, the difference in appearance of the last two images in it is very subtle.

retroben said:
I got to gather my findings before I can,but I'll see what I can do.
The major speed increase with GPU Govern set to "performance" while 400Mhz is my biggest accomplishment of findings.
I will need to devise a series of steps for each of my findings,so it might take a long while.
The 32bit Color Depth does seem a lot more vibrant and crisper than 24bit.
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I have all for cores running on Performance max thanks to Kernel Tuner and the GPU on Performance at 400 with Tweak mod and i switched to 32 bit and im running a bit slower now with FF Type Zero in PPSSPP compared to before. I think im going to switch back to 24 bit and hopefully get a bit more speed back.

THAT IS WHAT I SAID NOT TO DO!
The CPU cores all set to that height will majorly overheat your device,and might kill it.
The most you should do is use Kernel Tuner to set the minimal speeds up to something around 50% full.
I reccommend either leaving it at the default or setting it around the 500 range.
Leave the CPU Govern alone,but GPU on performance mode with Trickster Mod is fine.
The Kernel Tuner's 32bit option does not negatively effect the performance enough (if at all),so you can keep it on with no problems.
The framerate of PPSSPP is dependant on what settings are used.
I have almost everything enabled and I get fluid 60fps with DBZ Budokai Shin.
I also get a nearly stutterless fps with SRB2PSP which normally runs abysmal on the actual system.
My PPSSPP settings...
Graphics:Non buffered,frame limit unchecked with 50% alternative speed,all of performance enabled, and the two speedup hacks enabled.
System:Multithreading and I/O disabled with native 330Mhz PSP clock speed on 2000/3000 mode.
A majority of games will have visual issues (Simpsons Game 3D graphics broken [I blame Qualcomm]) while the two I have tested (DBZ Shin and the SRB2PSP homebrew/port) work nearly flawlessly at full rates.
The 50% alternative rate is really helpful for better performance,since the game still goes up to full speed.

retroben said:
THAT IS WHAT I SAID NOT TO DO!
The CPU cores all set to that height will majorly overheat your device,and might kill it.
The most you should do is use Kernel Tuner to set the minimal speeds up to something around 50% full.
I reccommend either leaving it at the default or setting it around the 500 range.
Leave the CPU Govern alone,but GPU on performance mode with Trickster Mod is fine.
The Kernel Tuner's 32bit option does not negatively effect the performance enough (if at all),so you can keep it on with no problems.
The framerate of PPSSPP is dependant on what settings are used.
I have almost everything enabled and I get fluid 60fps with DBZ Budokai Shin.
I also get a nearly stutterless fps with SRB2PSP which normally runs abysmal on the actual system.
My PPSSPP settings...
Graphics:Non buffered,frame limit unchecked with 50% alternative speed,all of performance enabled, and the two speedup hacks enabled.
System:Multithreading and I/O disabled with native 330Mhz PSP clock speed on 2000/3000 mode.
A majority of games will have visual issues (Simpsons Game 3D graphics broken [I blame Qualcomm]) while the two I have tested (DBZ Shin and the SRB2PSP homebrew/port) work nearly flawlessly at full rates.
The 50% alternative rate is really helpful for better performance,since the game still goes up to full speed.
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Yeah i just did performance govern for a temp performance test, i get the same speeds on ondemand just fine. but i'll try turning off multithreading and I/O and test it again with the other tweaks you said for PPSSPP.

For what its worth, I noticed the lag immediately following updating to the latest fw. On the original fw the ftv felt so fast and snappy and now is feelz slow and laggy.

It must be related to new bloatware like the kiddy mode and music management.
If you press alt+tab on a keyboard to view recent apps,the media options like apps games videos and photos will be listed,which means they run every time you pass the related options.
Root users need not worry,because rbox will have the homescreen options mod for removing the options soon.
I want to wittle it down to search,home,and settings so I can access things much faster.

Netflix is super dark on S9

Okay, im losing my mind with this problem. Watching videos on new S9 (Pie) on netflix is so dark i barely can see anything happening around. I have changed adaptive display, video enhancer but they do little or not anything at all. While Netflix is dark af Youtube on the other hand works perfectly fine regular and HDR content and yes, i have the 'best' netflix plan.
Comparison against ip8+: https://i.imgur.com/TNhg6WQ.jpg
Using search bar i can see what is happening but during playback no: https://i.imgur.com/azR7fGa.jpg
Any ideas? Has this been this bad whole year?

Tried an older version of the Netflix app ?

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Tried an older version of the Netflix app ?
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I have not but i tried subscribing into beta version and it did not solve this. Is there easy way to do that or should i just download some random apk from somewhere?
Okay found it from apkmirror, will try now.

Tested on three different version. One from mid december and one from november. Third one was so old (from march) that it directly said i need to update my Netflix app in order to proceed.
No luck with these, same problem persists.

jsomby said:
Tested on three different version. One from mid december and one from november. Third one was so old (from march) that it directly said i need to update my Netflix app in order to proceed.
No luck with these, same problem persists.
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Says they are currently investigating the bug
https://help.netflix.com/en/node/100220

*Detection* said:
Says they are currently investigating the bug
https://help.netflix.com/en/node/100220
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I saw the same thing but that feels like generic notification or old. Could have been there for months.
I try to contact the chat support if i get anything out of there and post the info back here. I use netflix daily (talk about addiction) and i cant live with this issue

Okay, problem was my settings or viewing habits after all. I had to disable adaptive brightness and pump the brightness quite high which makes using the phone before sleep in bed quite horrible experience but when doing that the issue goes away most of the time. I need to check if changing colors to more yellow tint helps to overcome this new issue i just generated. Maybe i'm to used to use IPS/LCD displays which are bright but not like flashlight into eyes like HDR/Amoled.

In your display settings you have to turn in your AOMLED to Cinema mode when watching movies on Netflix and turn the contrast on high. Best results I've found this far.

Turn on video enhancer under advanced features. It works! I have a Note 9.

Temporary Fix
I was able to view content again that was not too dark to watch by uninstalling latest Netflix app and then installing v4.12.2 from apkmirror.

Netflix 4.12.2 from ApkMirror

Thanks jsomby and iskidoo2. So glad to know I'm not alone. I spent hours faffing around in my S9 settings (blue light filter, brightness, adaptive brightness, screen modes, etc, and Netflix subtitles on or off) and no combination of settings made a meaningful difference
I called Netflix support from the app yesterday and today about this.
Yesterday the agent was very nice but got stuck into the advice for "screen is black but I hear sound" which wasn't really the correct category.
After that call and learning from this thread about how to get older versions of apps, I tried two Netflix 6 versions which made no difference (current Play Store version is 7.26.1). Then I spotted iskidoo2's suggestion of 4.12.2. It worked! Thank you for giving me Netflix back!
I then took some pictures comparing the ancient Netflix app with the current one, even demonstrating the way the inset preview image is much less dim than the film itself when you're moving the red dot on the progress bar....
I called Netflix again today to be told it's a known issue with the S9 and streaming HDR titles, and they're working on it. Since this thread is over 6 months old I'm not sure if they're working on it exceedingly slowly, or if it was never properly acknowledged as a bug until recently?!
TLDR: thank you for this thread. I registered here to say that.

LittleGreenCourgette said:
Thanks jsomby and iskidoo2. So glad to know I'm not alone. I spent hours faffing around in my S9 settings (blue light filter, brightness, adaptive brightness, screen modes, etc, and Netflix subtitles on or off) and no combination of settings made a meaningful difference
I called Netflix support from the app yesterday and today about this.
Yesterday the agent was very nice but got stuck into the advice for "screen is black but I hear sound" which wasn't really the correct category.
After that call and learning from this thread about how to get older versions of apps, I tried two Netflix 6 versions which made no difference (current Play Store version is 7.26.1). Then I spotted iskidoo2's suggestion of 4.12.2. It worked! Thank you for giving me Netflix back!
I then took some pictures comparing the ancient Netflix app with the current one, even demonstrating the way the inset preview image is much less dim than the film itself when you're moving the red dot on the progress bar....
I called Netflix again today to be told it's a known issue with the S9 and streaming HDR titles, and they're working on it. Since this thread is over 6 months old I'm not sure if they're working on it exceedingly slowly, or if it was never properly acknowledged as a bug until recently?!
TLDR: thank you for this thread. I registered here to say that.
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I didn't try the old version yet and some series are hard to impossible to watch in dim light (ie. bed) but i will look into that older apk. I also spoke with netflix support and 'solution' was to pump up the brightness but in bed that usually makes eyes hurt, otherwise no issues. There are couple of series in netflix that are pure agony to watch with this phone, one of these are 'The Ranch'. Colors are off and since are scenes are quite low contrast it makes watching really bad with S9.
Also there is this issue with blacks and how they leave trail when moving fast but that's for another topic and hw issue and not related no netflix only.

Here's the current app compared to the old one. I've not had to mess with any of my settings or adaptive brightness... the old one just works. Such a relief to suddenly see faces again rather than just lightbulbs surrounded by blackness.
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}

jsomby said:
Okay, im losing my mind with this problem. Watching videos on new S9 (Pie) on netflix is so dark i barely can see anything happening around. I have changed adaptive display, video enhancer but they do little or not anything at all. While Netflix is dark af Youtube on the other hand works perfectly fine regular and HDR content and yes, i have the 'best' netflix plan.
Comparison against ip8+: https://i.imgur.com/TNhg6WQ.jpg
Using search bar i can see what is happening but during playback no: https://i.imgur.com/azR7fGa.jpg
Any ideas? Has this been this bad whole year?
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Hi Everyone,
Try
1) increase full brightness
2)start any videos on Netflix
3) click home button and you will get pop up netflix screen
4) now click full screen on netflix

ajayverma99 said:
Hi Everyone,
Try
1) increase full brightness
2)start any videos on Netflix
3) click home button and you will get pop up netflix screen
4) now click full screen on netflix
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Wow! You are a hero! It really works!

THANKS!! Finaly I have Netflix back...by using Netflix 4.12.2 from ApkMirror

I had the same issue with samsung note 10+. The screen went dark. Then I installed netflix 4.12.2 from apkmirror. The brigtness came back. Then update the app back to latest version from playstore. The latest version started working fine with proper brightness.

Ok guys. Netflix is incompetent. Here is a fix until the retards get it fixed. It's an HDR streaming problem. Brightness controls and what not seem to have little effect. Start a Netflix show that has this problem them picture in picture your netflix. While inpic in pic go to display settings and turn adaptive display on then turn brightness to high. Your netflix should be better now but still not how it should be in HDR. For some reason Netflix HDR is using adaptive brightness settings automatically and screwing things up

I had a similar problem with Netflix playback on the Android app being very dark and discovered that there is a brightness control in Netflix. When you are playing back a movie tap the screen to bring up the play/pause controls and on the left side is a brightness slider. This fixed the problem for me.

Can a Mi10t lite downgrade to 90hz?

Since I’m actually afraid of consuming the battery life and personally don’t need 120hz, is there a way to downgrade it to 90hz?
And if it isn’t possible via settings, is there a DBTO image that can allow that?
thanks

I don't think it's possible (yet) but It's adaptive sync so it will not run 120hz at all time, it will run at the supported hz's of: 30Hz/48Hz/50Hz/60Hz/90Hz/120Hz
For example on the home screen and settings it will run at 50hz (according to my test) when you not scroll, only 120hz when you scroll or touch.
Most games locked to 30/60fps and it will not run at 120hz there of course.

ZLevente said:
I don't think it's possible (yet) but It's adaptive sync so it will not run 120hz at all time, it will run at the supported hz's of: 30Hz/48Hz/50Hz/60Hz/90Hz/120Hz
For example on the home screen and settings it will run at 50hz (according to my test) when you not scroll, only 120hz when you scroll or touch.
Most games locked to 30/60fps and it will not run at 120hz there of course.
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I know, but even with adaptive sync I don't think this phone will get to 7 hours of usage with display on

Percyco said:
I know, but even with adaptive sync I don't think this phone will get to 7 hours of usage with display on
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My phone with normal usage (chrome, youtube, instagram, some light games) gets 8-9 hours on screen with 120hz (adaptive sync).

Percyco said:
Since I’m actually afraid of consuming the battery life and personally don’t need 120hz, is there a way to downgrade it to 90hz?
And if it isn’t possible via settings, is there a DBTO image that can allow that?
thanks
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This work for me https://forum.xda-developers.com/xi...-to-force-miui-to-90hz-instead-120hz-t4177211

Question Is this hardware or software issue??

My poco f3 stutter really bad when scrolling, its happening almost on every apps, except facebook. Im using stok rom MIUI 12.5.5, rooted. This is the example when im using twitter app.

avatarwan13 said:
My poco f3 sutter really bad when scrolling, its happening almost on every apps, except facebook. Im using stok rom MIUI 12.5.5, rooted. This is the example when im using twitter app.
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120 hz enabled in display settings right?

souvy said:
120 hz enabled in display settings right?
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Yes, 120Hz enabled

Since it is smooth on Facebook it is not a hardware issue. Try the following and post screenshots
Enable Developer options. Navigate to Settings > About > Build number and tap on Build number seven times.
Profile GPU rendering; tap on that and choose “On screen as bars”.

miravision said:
Since it is smooth on Facebook it is not a hardware issue. Try the following and post screenshots
Enable Developer options. Navigate to Settings > About > Build number and tap on Build number seven times.
Profile GPU rendering; tap on that and choose “On screen as bars”.
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Are you able to collate the judders with the spikes in GPU rendering?
I sometimes notice judder when viewing a webview even at 120 Hz.
To help you diagnose, is Samsung Browser smooth while scrolling?

miravision said:
Are you able to collate the judders with the spikes in GPU rendering?
I sometimes notice judder when viewing a webview even at 120 Hz.
To help you diagnose, is Samsung Browser smooth while scrolling?
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This is when its stuttering

miravision said:
Are you able to collate the judders with the spikes in GPU rendering?
I sometimes notice judder when viewing a webview even at 120 Hz.
To help you diagnose, is Samsung Browser smooth while scrolling?
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Samsung browser is smooth when im scrolling, but sometimes its stuttering, but not very often. In twitter app, stutter is really bad.

That proves my observation. I noticed that your temperatures are under control at 36
If Samsung Browser is smooth then I think its the webview renderer that is the problem.
As to why twitter app stutters so bad could be because it uses webview to render tweets
Try updating to the latest webview or the latest canary build for bromite or chrome webview

A fix that worked for me is to set the refresh rate to 60Hz , clear the app data from the performance and battery app and then set the refresh rate back to 120Hz

So, i tried geekbench, and running compute benchmark (opencl and vulkan), I think the score is very low, even lower than my Huawei Nova 5t phone. First pict is my poco scores, the second is my Huawei scores.

Question Persistent Stuttering with Scrolling

Hi all, I've had my Pixel 6 Pro since December and there's been one issue that preventing me from loving it. Nearly every 3rd party app (and some Google apps) has this stutter when scrolling. Just to be clear this is not the bug where it drops from 120hz to 60hz. It is very clearly running at 120 the entire time but there is some sort of dropped frames or screen tearing going on that makes it stutter. A lot of people can relate to this stuttering to how the Twitter and Reddit apps behave on Android. Except this is happening to so many apps I use which are not present when I compare it to someone's S21 Ultra. Apps such as play store, yelp, linkedin, google feed on the left of homescreen, google feed in chrome, netflix, uber eats, google news, and youtube all have this issue. There are apps that run like butter however such as settings, contacts, calendar, and keep so I know its possible. Does anyone else experience this? I have tried the December, January, February, and 12L beta 3 and there are not improvements. I just don't understand how so many people say this phone is butter when this stuttering is so jarring.

johnyu950 said:
Hi all, I've had my Pixel 6 Pro since December and there's been one issue that preventing me from loving it. Nearly every 3rd party app (and some Google apps) has this stutter when scrolling. Just to be clear this is not the bug where it drops from 120hz to 60hz. It is very clearly running at 120 the entire time but there is some sort of dropped frames or screen tearing going on that makes it stutter. A lot of people can relate to this stuttering to how the Twitter and Reddit apps behave on Android. Except this is happening to so many apps I use which are not present when I compare it to someone's S21 Ultra. Apps such as play store, yelp, linkedin, google feed on the left of homescreen, google feed in chrome, netflix, uber eats, google news, and youtube all have this issue. There are apps that run like butter however such as settings, contacts, calendar, and keep so I know its possible. Does anyone else experience this? I have tried the December, January, February, and 12L beta 3 and there are not improvements. I just don't understand how so many people say this phone is butter when this stuttering is so jarring.
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This is 100% not the norm. I've had two 6 Pro's (just got a replacement because of a weird haptic motor) and both have been fine. So, it sounds like either an app is causing this, or its a hardware issue. I recommend re-flashing 12L (after a wipe), and during setup, create a temporary gmail account (you can delete it later). install the worst 3 or 4 apps and see if it fixes it. It's the best way to troubleshoot your issue.
Or try ProtonAOSP with a temporary Google Account (just for a few hours). You need to get to the bottom of what's causing this. But you absolutely should NOT have to use a "ROM" to get a proper experience. We're just trying to troubleshoot here.
How many apps do you have listed in Settings -- Accessibility? can you disable all of them, restart and see if there is any change>?

Alekos said:
This is 100% not the norm. I've had two 6 Pro's (just got a replacement because of a weird haptic motor) and both have been fine. So, it sounds like either an app is causing this, or its a hardware issue. I recommend re-flashing 12L (after a wipe), and during setup, create a temporary gmail account (you can delete it later). install the worst 3 or 4 apps and see if it fixes it. It's the best way to troubleshoot your issue.
Or try ProtonAOSP with a temporary Google Account (just for a few hours). You need to get to the bottom of what's causing this. But you absolutely should NOT have to use a "ROM" to get a proper experience. We're just trying to troubleshoot here.
How many apps do you have listed in Settings -- Accessibility? can you disable all of them, restart and see if there is any change>?
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I've reflashed 12L and tried ProtonAOSP but the stuttering is still there. This was with fresh install with no additional apps other than what came out of the box. Can you confirm that both your google feed and google news apps scroll perfectly smooth? This should be consistent across all Pixel 6s since it is a stock app.

I've had this issue since day 1.
Google feed stutters pretty badly, is probably the biggest offender on my end that stutters the most.

johnyu950 said:
I've reflashed 12L and tried ProtonAOSP but the stuttering is still there. This was with fresh install with no additional apps other than what came out of the box. Can you confirm that both your google feed and google news apps scroll perfectly smooth? This should be consistent across all Pixel 6s since it is a stock app.
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Yes, it is fine for me. No issues with stuttering on these apps. Can you take a video of what's happening? does it show up in a screen recording?

Alekos said:
Yes, it is fine for me. No issues with stuttering on these apps. Can you take a video of what's happening? does it show up in a screen recording?
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Here's a screen recording of me scrolling through Google feed, play store, news, and podcast. All stock apps that should perform perfectly but there is stuttering. If it's not too much trouble could you upload a similar video so I can compare?
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Are you sure 120 is enabled under display? It sure looks like you are in 60hz mode

Also you state you have tried dec, Jan, Feb and 12L did ANY of those involve a CLEAN FLASH like a FULL WIPE or did you just update to them and call it broke.

johnyu950 said:
Here's a screen recording of me scrolling through Google feed, play store, news, and podcast. All stock apps that should perform perfectly but there is stuttering. If it's not too much trouble could you upload a similar video so I can compare?
New video by Jonathan Yu
photos.app.goo.gl
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It's hard to judge the footage, since it's a 296x640 24fps? 30fps? recording, but it seems that what you refer to as "stuttering" is merely the scrolling animation, bringing the scroll to a "halt". Pretty sure that it's intentional, but then again it's hard to judge, since the quality of the video you shared doesn't offer much room for interpretation. We would need solid footage with 60fps or more to understand what you refer to as stutter.
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Also mind that sharing GPhotos involves your full GAccount name, delete the link if you don't want people to know your "credentials".

johnyu950 said:
Here's a screen recording of me scrolling through Google feed, play store, news, and podcast. All stock apps that should perform perfectly but there is stuttering. If it's not too much trouble could you upload a similar video so I can compare?
New video by Jonathan Yu
photos.app.goo.gl
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as others have stated, it's best not to share media with your google photos account. others might be able to upload a video to compare. If you do want to share video, use a free upload service like share.riseup.net, for images use postimages.org (there's probably other services some will suggest).
I think what your seeing is pretty normal. mine isn't much smoother, and I don't think there's anything wrong with your phone. The only way to know for sure is to compare to another 6 Pro in real life - but that might not be possible (unless you go to a store that has it on display).
also like other user has suggested, that video will look worse because it isn't a high frame rate or resolution.
Go to developer options and enable "Force Peak refresh rate" and turn the 3 animation scale options to 0.0 (the latter probably won't do anything for scrolling but try it anyway).
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Personally, I don't think there's anything wrong with your phone. I think that sometimes we're so fixated on scrolling animation. It's totally fine to, but the phone has so much to offer. I don't use the Google apps you've suggested. I also feel that if this is really important to you, maybe the S21/S21 is a better phone.

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Are you sure 120 is enabled under display? It sure looks like you are in 60hz mode
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Also you state you have tried dec, Jan, Feb and 12L did ANY of those involve a CLEAN FLASH like a FULL WIPE or did you just update to them and call it broke.
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This video was made using the screen record quick toggle straight from the phone after a clean flash of 12L. Updated all stock apps in the play store so everything is up to date. Can't really get more clean than that. Also recorded the morning after so things have settled. I can assure you its running at 120hz and not 60hz. Now that I check on my computer I can see it doesn't playback with 120 fps. I guess google photos doesn't pick up the framerate.

Morgrain said:
It's hard to judge the footage, since it's a 296x640 24fps? 30fps? recording, but it seems that what you refer to as "stuttering" is merely the scrolling animation, bringing the scroll to a "halt". Pretty sure that it's intentional, but then again it's hard to judge, since the quality of the video you shared doesn't offer much room for interpretation. We would need solid footage with 60fps or more to understand what you refer to as stutter.
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Footage quality can be increased to 1440p but you're right that it doesn't pick up the fps on a desktop, if you watch from your phone (if you have a pixel 6 pro) then it should show 120fps. I'll try to record again using something else. I get what you're saying about the scrolling animation but I feel its more that than. When compared to a S21 Ultra its much smoother with no hiccups. The best comparison is scrolling through settings and scrolling through google feed or google news. You can't tell me those two feel the same.