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Best phone to upgrade to from Mi5/MI5S?

I've had an MI5 for a couple years and the screen is cracked and close to dying. I was thinking of buying an MI5S as a replacement but feel like I could get a better phone as it's TOO similar to my trusty MI5 even.
My specific, additional criteria includes it being similarly sized (height/thickness) to the MI5/MI5S (to fit my mobile phone holder). After searching GSMArena, it returned around 8 phones. Most of them were cheap phones that were also released in 2016. The one exception was the original Google Pixel. The spec seems similar to the MI5/MI5S but the fingerprint scanner on the back is a deal breaker. So with that, I'd be prepared to open up the choice of phones a bit more. It must be able to run LineageOS and still be getting updates (future releases are never guaranteed, I understand). Any recommended phones (or just get the MI5S)?

I would go for the newer Mi6, because it has an optical image stabilizer like the Mi5, which the Mi5s sadly lacks.
The Mi6 also has a way faster CPU than the Mi5s. Don't forget, the Mi5s is now nearly 2 years old.

Indeed, price difference is minimal, so go with better options like the Mi6. Mi Note 3 and Mi Mix 2 are also friendly priced recently.

Thanks for the suggestions so far. I didn't consider the Mi6 and a few other Xiaomi phones becasuse I was using an old GSMarena saved search where I specified band 28 had to be in the phone, but I don't actually need that band now.
Aaargh, the Mi6 (and upcoming 6X), Mi Note 3 and Mi Mix 2 all don’t have headphone jacks (the headphone adapters aren’t going to cut it)! Curse you Apple. We knew it was coming, I guess. They’re all a similar size to my old phone at least and fit the phone holder as well.
Mi Mix 2 looks like it will get updated for some time but that's starting to get heavy (185 g/6.53 oz) too:
https://www.lineageosrom.com/2018/01/xiaomi-devises-getting-android-p.html
The Nokia 8 actually looks very good value with same CPU as the Mi Mix 2 (and similar weight) but with the headphone jack, but the Lineage devs are waiting on the bootloader to be unlockable for that.
I think I’ll have to wait. At least I have a better idea of what I’m looking for. Would be nice if the stats.lineageos.org site showed the newer phones’ popularity/trend in another table.

Mm, you have a point there. The Mi Note 2 or the original Mi Mix maybe? The upcoming Redmi Note 5 (with the SD636) is also promising to be a good deal. Otherwise some Nubia (Z17 lite for instance) and maybe even LeTV phones with a custom ROM might be worth a look (although I'm not sure about the build quality from LeTV). Just check the XDA thread of the device beforehand and always stick to Qualcomm processors as Mediatek gives crap support to both producers and ROM developers.

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Mm, you have a point there. The Mi Note 2 or the original Mi Mix maybe? The upcoming Redmi Note 5 (with the SD636) is also promising to be a good deal. Otherwise some Nubia (Z17 lite for instance) and maybe even LeTV phones with a custom ROM might be worth a look (although I'm not sure about the build quality from LeTV). Just check the XDA thread of the device beforehand and always stick to Qualcomm processors as Mediatek gives crap support to both producers and ROM developers.
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Thanks for those. Mi Note 2 and orignial Mi Mix are a bit old (hey, one of the earlier posts has made me only look at 2017 or later phones). The Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro phone is a bit heavy at around 180gm (my 64gb Mi5 is 129gb).
The LeTv/LeEco phnoe have two, more-recent releases that look reasonable but from those the LeEco Le Pro3 Elite has the same chipset as my Mi5 and the LeEco Le Pro 3 AI Edition has a Mediatek chipset (taking your advice on ruling out phones with those).
The Zubia Z17 lite looks a decent option (168gms is getting up there is weight) but just saw its finger print scanner is rear-mounted too.
Will keep looking!

On the 24. April Xiaomi will present the new Mi 6X. Details so far unknown, but will probably be the successor of the Mi 6.

patoberli said:
On the 24. April Xiaomi will present the new Mi 6X. Details so far unknown, but will probably be the successor of the Mi 6.
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No separate 3.5mm/headphone jack. Looks nice though. I refuse to get wireless earphones or use any dongle. I bought some nice wired earphones not too long ago.
Sounds like the Mi7 might be out sometime this year too (but, again, probably won't have a 3.5mm/headphone jack).

Development potential oft redmi note 8 / redmi note 8 pro

Hi everybody,
I am considering to buy this phone, (rmn8 pro), however it ships with the mediatek G90T processor. in the past my understanding was that ROM development for mediatek based phones is troublesome due to missing sources. Can anyone confirm this issue for me?
Would it therefore be better to buy the non pro version of rthe rmn8 shipping with an snapdragon 655 processor?

Yeah I'd like to know it too.

OK - so it seems that if we want custom ROMs we should go with the non pro version.
Based on xiaomis history and the development activity for the redmi note 3 snapdragon and redmi note 3 mediathek there is a considerable difference.
Furthermore it appears that it took 3 years for xiaomi to release the kernel source for the rmn 3 and the rmn 2 mediatek version. In general it appears that the source release is up to the OEMS - e.g. Xiaomi. Mediathek is known to only distribute the source to customers or people who are willong to pay.
This is kind of disappointing as the pro version of the rmn8 is quite a bit better.
Any other opinions ?

I want the pro version but mtk processor no way ill be buying as I want gcam and custom roms.

I would suggest you to wait for the Global launch because Xiaomi might launch RN8Pro with Snapdragon soc..

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I would suggest you to wait for the Global launch because Xiaomi might launch RN8Pro with Snapdragon soc..
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That could be the case, but I guess it won't happen as they try to create some hype around the new helio chips.

If Xiaomi released source code for kernel, there is chance for start develop custom ROMs and kernels, but SoC from Qualcomm Snapdragon still more universal. I think MediaTek will get custom ROMs/kernels but Gcam will be more problematic. In my opinion XDA members should try create better support for MediaTek SoC. Why ? MediaTek Helio G90T it's seriously impressive SoC with some more performance than SD730G.

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The phone is very, very good，Feel good, good color, great performance.
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kounir said:
If Xiaomi released source code for kernel, there is chance for start develop custom ROMs and kernels, but SoC from Qualcomm Snapdragon still more universal. I think MediaTek will get custom ROMs/kernels but Gcam will be more problematic. In my opinion XDA members should try create better support for MediaTek SoC. Why ? MediaTek Helio G90T it's seriously impressive SoC with some more performance than SD730G.
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The problem is that MTK doesn't fully release the sources of their SoC's that's why it has low development here in XDA.

xhqsjzs999999 said:
The phone is very, very good，Feel good, good color, great performance.
Life is invincible.
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Have you got the phone

n7 pro 675 is faster than n8 665
but n8's screen is better than n7 pro
and n7 pro have a lot of rom
i searched just 3 phones have snapdragon 665,and all has few roms
so i want to buy n7 pro recently

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n7 pro 675 is faster than n8 665
but n8's screen is better than n7 pro
and n7 pro have a lot of rom
i searched just 3 phones have snapdragon 665,and all has few roms
so i want to buy n7 pro recently
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Exactly my thoughts.... Redmi Note 7 pro has lot of developments going on and it is better than Redmi Note 8.
Redmi note 8 has Samsung sensor which does not have much gcam support.
Redmi note 7 pro has Sony sensor which works flawlessly with gcam.

naser_cbe said:
Exactly my thoughts.... Redmi Note 7 pro has lot of developments going on and it is better than Redmi Note 8.
Redmi note 8 has Samsung sensor which does not have much gcam support.
Redmi note 7 pro has Sony sensor which works flawlessly with gcam.
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Well about development, sure note 7 Pro may have better Dev support coz it's an older device but as far as gcam support is concerned, you may be wrong, I'm using note 8 and it's working flawless. At least it's giving much better camera results when compared to poco

girishjangir7 said:
Have you got the phone
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Not sure whether the guys who ordered online received or not. I got the device from an local Mi store on the sale day itself.

Realme 6 Pro or Xiaomi Note 10 Lite?

Bought a Xiaomi Mi 9 Lite on Amazon France (it was cheapest there) in February. Was working fine up until a few weeks ago when it turned itself off and asked me to "Reboot to main menu". This now happens 2 or 3 times a day. Did factory reset, same problem. So looks like it's a glitch and I'll be returning it to get a refund. I've had Xiaomi phones before, never had a problem. So I'm looking for best phone around €300. I'd like a decent camera, quick /snappy processor, no glitches, good support and decent resale value as I tend to sell my phones every 18 months and upgrade. The realme 6 Pro and mi note 10 lite seem to suit my needs best..... But which is the better?

There's no reason for picking the 6 Pro over the Note 10 Lite.
1. Would pick note 10 lite's AMOLED instead even just comes with 60Hz. Why ? because 90Hz on 6 Pro is gimmicky, especially considering you ran it on mid-range SoC.
2. Higher battery capacity.
3. Mostly, Xiaomi phones have better community support due to several reasons like :
- They have official flashing tools (MiFlash) for repairing soft-brick, where realme doesn't.
- Better kernel source code quality, at least better than realme. The source code that provided by realme is total mess (sorry realme).

Orders the Note 10 Lite today, hope to get it next week at some stage.

Is it still worth it to buy the Redmi Note 8?

I currently have the budget to buy a phone in the prices of the Redmi Note 8 and the Redmi Note 9, I am really into custom roms and I'm currently leaning into buying the Redmi Note 8 just because of it. Will the Redmi Note 8 still be supported by the developers here in the long run or are a lot of them transitioning in buying the new Redmi Note?

In my experience the redmi line have developer support during several years. My last phone was a redmi 5 plus (vince) and even today there are quality custom roms available (but there are not many options anymore). I bought a RN 8 recently and I think it is still a good device, especially considering that RN9 has a mediatek processor and the development for that device is going to be harder. Sorry for my bad English btw.

bettermercury said:
In my experience the redmi line have developer support during several years. My last phone was a redmi 5 plus (vince) and even today there are quality custom roms available (but there are not many options anymore). I bought a RN 8 recently and I think it is still a good device, especially considering that RN9 has a mediatek processor and the development for that device is going to be harder. Sorry for my bad English btw.
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appreciate it, my brother just bought a Redmi Note 9, I'm not really feeling the size of the phone, plus I don't think there's going to be much development because of the processor? I guess I'll just go with this, the roms with the RN8 seems pretty great.

Take into consideration that Xiaomi is really delaying updates for this phone, even Redmi note 7 got updates sooner.

Question OP 9 pro or new Norc 2 CE

My OP 6 is slow as hell because of the bad (update) support from OP with updates and the screen just cracked so I am looking to buy a new phone. With the upcoming OP10 and the review from jerryrigseverything I will not spend my money on that thing because my phone will lay everywhere and will be in every pocket. Although the bad reputation OP is getting themselves in {Mod edit} I am not ready to leave the brand yet (Samsungs get slow as hell as well after a few years and other brands ask way above 1k as well for a phone). Thinking about getting the 9 Pro after the 10 is out to get it for cheap but I noticed that de Nord 2 CE is out as well. Is this a better phone (or close to the 9 Pro) in terms of performance and all or not?
Would it be better to get the Nord 2 CE instead of the 9 Pro?

Totally different goals for each device. OP9 Pro has a flagship SoC and Nord CE 2 is focused on average users. The hardware doesn't replicate the same premium features (the body is covered with plastic, the screen isn't so bright and the refresh rating reaches up to 90Hz).

Look at the 9RT else the Iqoo 9 / 9 Pro. The new Mi series is also good. Nord 3 might release soon. My OP6 was working fine but needed a new phone so sold that and got the 9RT. It's good enough.

If the price is close 9 Pro. Just better.
10 Pro Global is still young in OxygenOS, still got some bug's...