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Hello All, This is my first time posting so could not post directly into http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2021640&page=23.
I’ve been having a problem with SPH-D710 FK23 and from what I’ve read and searched, it doesn’t seem to be common but would like to ask the experts. I’ve installed FK23 from the above thread [LINK][ROM][ODIN][TAR]SPH-D710 FK23 (FK23 Modem/Kernel/ROM - Root/Stock), trying first the Rooted_Nodata but then using Rooted_Restore. I’ve redone the phone three times now using Rooted_Restore and the first thing that seems very odd is that the internal USB did not get wiped. After it completed and booted, the items on the internal USB (such as in the downloads directory) were still present. Once I entered my Google account, the apps reinstalled from Google.
Aside from not seeming to completely wipe the device, there didn’t appear to be any problem until I turned on Bluetooth. Once Bluetooth was turned on and paired with my BlueAnt Q2 v.1.1, the device would freeze and reboot. At this point, I’m not able to turn off Bluetooth as even after rebooting (including a battery pull) the system only responds to touch during the initial few moments of boot while showing scanning and/or initializing SD. After a few moments, no screen interaction will respond other than vibration feedback when pressing any of the four bottom buttons. Volume up/down is not responsive though the power button will still blank or turn the screen on. Aside from that the device appears locked than will eventually reboot itself.
Has anyone seen similar and/or any suggestions?
kdean7 said:
Hello All, This is my first time posting so could not post directly into http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2021640&page=23.
I’ve been having a problem with SPH-D710 FK23 and from what I’ve read and searched, it doesn’t seem to be common but would like to ask the experts. I’ve installed FK23 from the above thread [LINK][ROM][ODIN][TAR]SPH-D710 FK23 (FK23 Modem/Kernel/ROM - Root/Stock), trying first the Rooted_Nodata but then using Rooted_Restore. I’ve redone the phone three times now using Rooted_Restore and the first thing that seems very odd is that the internal USB did not get wiped. After it completed and booted, the items on the internal USB (such as in the downloads directory) were still present. Once I entered my Google account, the apps reinstalled from Google.
Aside from not seeming to completely wipe the device, there didn’t appear to be any problem until I turned on Bluetooth. Once Bluetooth was turned on and paired with my BlueAnt Q2 v.1.1, the device would freeze and reboot. At this point, I’m not able to turn off Bluetooth as even after rebooting (including a battery pull) the system only responds to touch during the initial few moments of boot while showing scanning and/or initializing SD. After a few moments, no screen interaction will respond other than vibration feedback when pressing any of the four bottom buttons. Volume up/down is not responsive though the power button will still blank or turn the screen on. Aside from that the device appears locked than will eventually reboot itself.
Has anyone seen similar and/or any suggestions?
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Actually think I have an answer for this now... and it has to do with the change to the storage structure and/or mount points. Before the main mount point for /sdcard was... /sdcard. Now looks like it's /storage/sdcard0. That's the only reason I can think of why it would fail - the script is still triggered so only if it didn't find /sdcard would it skip.
garwynn said:
Actually think I have an answer for this now... and it has to do with the change to the storage structure and/or mount points. Before the main mount point for /sdcard was... /sdcard. Now looks like it's /storage/sdcard0. That's the only reason I can think of why it would fail - the script is still triggered so only if it didn't find /sdcard would it skip.
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Any idea on the unresonsiveness and rebooting?
kdean7 said:
Any idea on the unresonsiveness and rebooting?
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Think it's part of the nodata flash effects still lingering.
Try this:
1) Flash FI27 full restore (rooted)
2) Reboot to Odin
3) Flash FK23 full restore (rooted)
That should fix it if it's old data not playing nice.
If it still happens after this the next step we'll do is check your battery.
garwynn said:
Think it's part of the nodata flash effects still lingering.
Try this:
1) Flash FI27 full restore (rooted)
2) Reboot to Odin
3) Flash FK23 full restore (rooted)
That should fix it if it's old data not playing nice.
If it still happens after this the next step we'll do is check your battery.
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Is it possible that kdean7's problems are because of restoring Google's backup during the initial configuration process?
garwynn said:
Think it's part of the nodata flash effects still lingering.
Try this:
1) Flash FI27 full restore (rooted)
2) Reboot to Odin
3) Flash FK23 full restore (rooted)
That should fix it if it's old data not playing nice.
If it still happens after this the next step we'll do is check your battery.
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Not sure if what i've done is the same outcome as above but did this yesterday before this was posted. Booted to recovery mode and wiped device / factory restore then flashed FK23 full restore (rooted). SInce then, I've added back my google account, added my Samsung account, added one exchange email and one pop3 email and have been letting the device self-update and reinstall the apps from the Play store. Made one test call and a couple txt messages. I've been waiting until no further updated occur before turning bluetooth back on but so far have't seen any random reboots though don't think I've used it long enough to see any screen locking. More to come as I test further this morning.
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Not sure if what i've done is the same outcome as above but did this yesterday before this was posted. Booted to recovery mode and wiped device / factory restore then flashed FK23 full restore (rooted). SInce then, I've added back my google account, added my Samsung account, added one exchange email and one pop3 email and have been letting the device self-update and reinstall the apps from the Play store. Made one test call and a couple txt messages. I've been waiting until no further updated occur before turning bluetooth back on but so far have't seen any random reboots though don't think I've used it long enough to see any screen locking. More to come as I test further this morning.
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Don't recall if the factory reset wipes USB storage, that would be the only possible difference.
Hope that gets you back into shape, will be checking during the day to see if you need any further help!
Same thing happening still
garwynn said:
Don't recall if the factory reset wipes USB storage, that would be the only possible difference.
Hope that gets you back into shape, will be checking during the day to see if you need any further help!
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Same symptoms happened again. I am going to make another attempt based on the the previous method starting back at ics.
garwynn said:
Think it's part of the nodata flash effects still lingering.
Try this:
1) Flash FI27 full restore (rooted)
2) Reboot to Odin
3) Flash FK23 full restore (rooted)
That should fix it if it's old data not playing nice.
If it still happens after this the next step we'll do is check your battery.
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This will sound like a very basic NOOB question but I want to ensure I do this exactly as suggested. I've flashed using SPH-D710_FI27_CL1127689_Rooted_Restore.
For reboot to Odin; Is that mean to boot by holding the Down Vol + Pwr then just powering down from that screen? Or possibly boot by holding Up + Vol and selecting one of those options?
I would also like to say THANK YOU to everyone who has been working on the D710. I've been following postings on this device and the knowledge everyone shares is simply amazing!!!
Still Freezing
kdean7 said:
This will sound like a very basic NOOB question but I want to ensure I do this exactly as suggested. I've flashed using SPH-D710_FI27_CL1127689_Rooted_Restore.
For reboot to Odin; Is that mean to boot by holding the Down Vol + Pwr then just powering down from that screen? Or possibly boot by holding Up + Vol and selecting one of those options?
I would also like to say THANK YOU to everyone who has been working on the D710. I've been following postings on this device and the knowledge everyone shares is simply amazing!!!
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After installing SPH-D710_FI27_CL1127689_Rooted_Restore.exe, booting into odin mode, then installing SPH-D710_FK23_549262_Rooted_Restore.exe, I provided account information for Google and Samsung but this time did not allow the automatic reinstall of apps from the play store. The phone seemed to not exhibit any issues until after the apps shown as needing updates from the play store and the installation of IP Cam Viewer Pro, the phone again started freezing and became unresponsive.
I appreciate the suggestions but will move back to FI27 for a while.
kdean7 said:
After installing SPH-D710_FI27_CL1127689_Rooted_Restore.exe, booting into odin mode, then installing SPH-D710_FK23_549262_Rooted_Restore.exe, I provided account information for Google and Samsung but this time did not allow the automatic reinstall of apps from the play store. The phone seemed to not exhibit any issues until after the apps shown as needing updates from the play store and the installation of IP Cam Viewer Pro, the phone again started freezing and became unresponsive.
I appreciate the suggestions but will move back to FI27 for a while.
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Think one of your apps may not like the JB build. You could try installing 1-2 at a time and see when it starts acting up to get a better idea of which one it may be...
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Found app causing crash
Looks like I may have found the app causing the crash. Breaking News Newtork (BNN). I saw that it crashed after installing that app last time as I was taking everything very slow and testing after individual apps. It wasn't immediate upon install, only after a reboot. So far without that being reinstalled, things are still working. Still running with minimal apps but so far so good.
THIS THREAD IS ONLY FOR THE SGH-730G VARIANT OF THE SAMSUNG DISCOVER. USE OF ANY OF THESE GUIDES AND METHODS FOR ANY OTHER VARIANT OF THE PHONE IS AT THE RISK OF THE USER
This thread is a guide on how to root and install CWM recovery on the Samsung Galaxy Discover (SGH-730G) which is the Tracfone (Net10, Straight Talk) variant of the device. These instructions are for Windows users only. If someone knows how to do it through Linux distro or Mac, please let me know and we will add those instructions to this post.
IMPORTANT: THIS GUIDE ASSUMES THAT YOU HAVE A PRIOR KNOWLEDGE OF THE TOOLS AND TERMS USED. ROOTING YOUR DEVICE WILL VOID YOUR WARRANTY! STOP NOW IF THIS IS SOMETHING YOU ARE CONCERNED ABOUT! IF YOU PROCEED, FOLLOW ALL THE DIRECTIONS CAREFULLY. USE OF THIS GUIDE AND THESE TOOLS IS AT THE RISK OF THE USER! I AM NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY DAMAGE OR NEGATIVE OUTCOMES INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO SOFT BRICK, HARD BRICK, EXPLODING BATTERIES, NUCLEAR WAR, GIANT SQUID PEOPLE, OR SPONTANEOUS JUSTIN BIEBER CONCERTS IN YOUR LIVING ROOM
***First let's get all the tools and files you will need to complete this process***
Samsung USB Drivers: Click HERE to download the USB drivers for the SGH-730G.
UnlockRoot Pro (Free Download) - Click HERE and scroll down to "UnlockRoot Pro" and click the "Free Download" button. *Note*: Your computer may tell you that this program is malicious. You may have to disable antivirus in order to download.
Odin3 v3.07 - Click HERE to download Odin. This program will be used to flash CWM recovery to your phone.
CWM Recovery (thanks to JohnnyGalto) - Click HERE to download CWM recovery for your phone.
***Now that you have all the tools downloaded let's get them installed and ready for use.***
1) Install the USB drivers (should be self-explanatory).
2) Click on UnlockRoot_downloader_by_UnlockRoot.exe to start the installation. You may have to grant it administrator privileges. I DO NOT RECOMMEND INSTALLING ANY OF THE SPECIAL OFFERS THAT FIRST COME UP WHEN YOU OPEN THE FILE. CLICK SKIP until the automatic download begins. This is the download for the program itself. Once that is finished, follow the instructions to install the program on your computer.
3) Extract Odin Files: I recommend creating a folder on the desktop named "Odin" simply for easy access. However, feel free to choose whatever directory you want. Simply extract all the files to a designated folder.
4) CWM Revovery Tar: Move this file into the same folder where you extracted Odin. This will make it easier to access in a little while.
***If you have followed all the instructions correctly, you are now ready to install CWM recovery and root your device! You will periodically see a yellow triangle on the Samsung boot logo screen throughout this process. But have no fear, we will take care of this later on.***
1) Put your phone into download mode by holding VOLUME DOWN + POWER. A warning screen about custom OS will appear. Press VOLUME UP to confirm this is what you want to do. You should then be showing a screen with the Android logo and the "Downloading... Do not turn off target!!" text.
2) Now connect your phone to the computer using the USB cable, and open Odin from the folder you extracted it to. If your phone is connected properly you should see something similar to "0:[COM10]" in the box under ID:COM in the upper left of the window.
**VERY IMPORTANT** MAKE SURE THE ONLY TWO BOXES CHECKED UNDER "OPTIONS" ARE AUTO REBOOT AND F. RESET TIME!! NO OTHER BOXES SHOULD BE CHECKED
3) Under "Files [Download]" click the PDA button. Navigate to where you placed the CWM tar file and click okay.It is important that you ONLY click "PDA" for this. If you have followed the directions carefully, Odin should check the MD5 sum of the file to verify validity. If the file comes back invalid or you get any errors, STOP, and report them in the thread.
4) Click "Start". DO NOT TURN OFF OR DISCONNECT YOUR PHONE DURING THIS PROCESS. If everything goes well, your phone will reboot automatically after install. To check if your install worked properly, follow the next instructions to boot into recovery and make a stock backup.
OPTIONAL BUT RECOMMENDED SAFETY STEP BEFORE PROCEEDING WITH ROOT (REQUIRES AN EXTERNAL MICRO SD CARD) - CWM recovery works without root permission. It is HIGHLY recommended that you make a complete backup of your stock image before proceeding. This will make it easier to recover from a soft brick, or to return your phone to stock in the future should you choose to do so. A)Power off your phone. To boot into recovery, hold VOLUME UP+POWER until the Samsung logo is displayed. After the logo displays, release the POWER button. Keep holding the VOLUME UP button until your phone boots into the CWM recovery screen. B) Using the volume keys to navigate the menu, scroll down to "backup and restore". Use the power button to select. C) Select backup using the power button. D) After your backup is complete, go back to the main menu and select "reboot system now".
5) Before using UnlockRoot Pro, go to your Settings menu and scroll down to "Developer Options". Be sure to select "USB debugging", "Allow mock locations", and just to avoid potential disaster, choose "Stay awake". After this is all done, you can go back and unselect these.
6) With USB debugging enabled on your phone, launch UnlockRoot (not the UnlockRoot PRO shortcut the program installs on the desktop). Click the big green "Root" button. **NOTE** During the process it will ask you if you want to install other apps. DO NOT INSTALL THEM. Once the program is finished, if all went well, you now have a rooted SGH-730G!
7) There are a number of apps available in the Play Store that check to see if you are rooted. Alternatively, this is how I check my devices. A) Download and install "Terminal Emulator" from the Play Store. This app is like using ADB on your phone. B) Once it is installed, open the app. Type in the command "su" (without the quotes) and hit enter. If rooting was successful, your phone should show a pop-up message asking you to grant it root privileges. Go ahead and say yes and rejoice in the fact you were successful. If you receive the error "permission denied", then the root was unsuccessful.
**Dealing with the pesky yellow triangle on the Samsung boot screen**
The yellow triangle on the Samsung boot screen is a visual warning that you are running custom software. To get rid of it, click the following thread link. "Triangle Away" is a paid app in the Play Store, but the awesome Chainfire has made it available in the forums. Read the thread carefully and follow all the instructions for using the app. Neither I, nor him, nor your pet are responsible for the misuse of the app. - http://forum.xda-developers.com/member.php?u=631273
THAT'S IT!!! If you followed all the directions carefully, you now have a rooted SGH-730G and the sky is the limit now. Currently there is no known custom roms for this device. However I am working on building a Stock+Root Deodexed version of the factory firmware, and will upload it when I can verify it is stable to be released. Following that, I will be developing a custom rom based on the stock firmware. But of course, if you have the experience and know-how, feel free to start developing your own roms for this phone. The more the merrier.
And as always, if you were successful using this guide, or it helped you in any way, please inflate my ego by clicking that thanks button.
I will try to answer as many questions as possible if you run into problems during the process, or if you have other questions about what you can do with this device now that it is rooted.
I CURRENTLY DO NOT KNOW OF A WAY TO MANUALLY UNLOCK THE PHONE. IT'S A LITTLE BIT BEYOND MY SKILLS. I HAVE HOWEVER SEEN PEOPLE IN OTHER FORUMS GETTING PEOPLE TO DO IT USING REMOTE ACCESS TO THEIR COMPUTERS WITH THE PHONE PLUGGED IN TO IT. I DON'T KNOW ALL THE DETAILS ABOUT HOW IT WORKS, BUT COMMON SENSE TELLS ME THIS ISN'T A VERY TRUSTWORTHY THING TO BE DOING. IT'S TOTALLY UP TO YOU IF YOU REALLY TRUST A COMPLETE STRANGER TO HAVE VIRTUAL ACCESS TO YOUR COMPUTER AND YOUR PHONE. BE I'D BE WEARY.
:good: Thanks (in no particular order) to andronald for the original thread about the 730M variant of this device, Without that thread, this thread would not be possible. FitAmp for his contributions to the project over there, JohnnyGalto for the CWM recovery image, cshmitt for his help in getting me started working on a custom rom for this device. :good:
Soft Brick Recovery
SOFT BRICK RECOVERY FOR SGH-730G
Right now, I am working on a tar Odin flashable system image to make it easier to recover from a soft brick of the device. Once it is completed and tested, I will update this post to include a download of it.
***This post will help you recover from a soft brick or bootloop error on your SGH-730G after rooting. This quick guide assumes that you still have access to CWM recovery and/or are able to boot into download mode. (See OP for instructions on how to boot into recovery and download mode.)***
If you followed the instructions and recommendations in the previous post, then you should have made a backup of the stock image using CWM recovery. This is what you will use to help recover your phone so you can start the process again, or not, depending on how gutsy you feel.
IF YOU ARE STILL ABLE TO BOOT INTO CWM RECOVERY
1) Power off your device. You may have to pull the battery to do this if you are stuck with a bootloop or other booting issues.
2) Boot into CWM recovery (see OP for instructions)
3) Scroll down to "backup and restore"
4) Select restore
5) You should then see a restore point to select. The format is usually "YYYY-MM-DD.HOUR". The hour is usually in 24h format.
6) Select the file then select "Yes".
7) If everything works correctly, your stock backup should be restored and you should be able to boot your phone again.
**Note** If you lose root while restoring your stock backup, just use the guide in the OP to try again.
**If you cannot boot into CWM recovery after installation and making a backup.**
Try to reinstall the CWM recovery image using the instructions in the OP.
Again, as soon as it is ready, I will upload a tar that can be flashed through Odin to restore the factory image to your phone, and instructions on recovering and returning to stock will be posted here.
As always, if this helps you in any way, inflate my ego by clicking that thanks button.
Fun with the SGH-730G
So far there are a few fun things I have found work for this phone so far.
For those who may want overclock features, check out this thread. The reason I didn't include it in the OP is because I didn't have success in changing the max value for CPU speed. It stayed constant at 1000 and produced a little too much battery drain for my taste.
SetCPU - This app only works to change the minimum allowed CPU speed of the stock kernel. I run the "ondemand" settings with a minimum of 600MHz and max of 800Mhz. This has helped to reduce some lag from the stock speeds the kernel likes to run and doesn't produce a noticeable battery drain.
Seeder - The seeder lag reduction app makes a huge difference in smoothness of the device.
Xposed Framework: If you don't know what this is, search the XDA forums and you will be able to learn just about everything you want about it. So far I have tested features of the XBlast module and Xposed Additions. Center clock and clock color change, 4-way reboot menu with screenshot, Volume button tweaks, all from Xblast. Xposed Additions can be used to remap the buttons for different functions. I was able to remap the back key to kill the foreground app on long-press. Very useful to limit the amount of running apps in the background.
Notification Toggle - This nifty little app allows you to place toggles for wifi, mobile data, brightness, etc, in the notification dropdown screen. Saves a little time from having to navigate through the settings on the phone, and saves home screen space by not having to use the power widget.
Rom Toolbox - Some features may work, but it is better to have the rom deodexed to take full advantage. (A deodexed version of the stock rom will be available soon).
Auto Killer Memory Optimizer: This is a personal favorite of mine. I own the pro version which is well worth the money. It allows custom settings to optimize RAM usage and free up memory. Makes the phone so much smoother.
If you find any other fun mods that work with this phone, pleas share!
Thank you very much. Been waiting for this for a while. Again thanks.
Nomad692000 said:
Thank you very much. Been waiting for this for a while. Again thanks.
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My pleasure. I felt it was necessary to separate this phone version from the other versions to avoid confusion. I'll be (hopefully) updating the soft brick recovery in just a moment. Currently testing a new method. Glad you liked the thread. Stick around, things may start to get interesting soon
So far I haven't had any luck creating an Odin package of the factory system image. I have written to Tracfone to see if they could provide me with the factory image but I'm not going to have high hopes it will happen.
Hopefully this week I will be able to provide a deodexed and debloated version of the stock rom that will run a little faster and take up a little less space on the device.
A custom kernel is in the works for those interested in overclocking, though I think anything past the stock max speed will cause a good amount of battery drain.
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So you building a custom rom for the tracfone version (730G)?
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So you building a custom rom for the tracfone version (730G)?
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Slowly but surely yes. Haven't gotten as much done this week as I had hoped but it is in the works.
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i need stock rom please
TheGeekyNimrod said:
Slowly but surely yes. Haven't gotten as much done this week as I had hoped but it is in the works.
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i mistakingly picked up the wrong phone..the discover and the centura are very similar....i accidently installed custom rom for the centura onto the discover...it is the 730g. i did not make a back up...do you have the stock rom and can you post or email it to me?? [email protected]
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j.nunez123 said:
i mistakingly picked up the wrong phone..the discover and the centura are very similar....i accidently installed custom rom for the centura onto the discover...it is the 730g. i did not make a back up...do you have the stock rom and can you post or email it to me?? [email protected]
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Right now I do not have a copy of the stock rom. I'm still trying to create an Odin flashable of the basic system partition files, recovery, and boot. Wish I could help you. This is why it's always important to make a backup. You might can try one of the 730M Discover threads and see if someone can send you a back up of theirs, but keep in mind that is the Canadian version of the phone. I'm not quite sure what all of the differences in them are.
Based on what I have been able to find out, other than the tracfone custom boot screen and sound, the android on this phone is just stock android 4. No touchwiz (thank God and all that it holy) no bloatware extras, no nothing. So you could probably take the stock Android 4.0.4 I think it is and work from that.
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little trouble
Ive downloaded everyting just fine, but when I try and install the unlockroot it keeps telling me Better installer host has stopped working. Is that something on my end or something on theirs? because i cant seem to figure anything out about better installer and have never seen it before downloading this. You have any suggestions on what is causing this problem?
[sgh-s730g] Discover Straight talk PR Rooted
I will reccomend you to start over as it is in [Root] [CWM] Samgsung Galaxy Discover (SGH-730G) Tracfone Variant ONLYthread, which is in the first page. Do a factory reset if it can be done, and wipe all the catches. format your sd card and be patient, because i followed all the instructions and mine works fine. the only thing i haven't done is get rid of the yellow triangle but I'll doit later on because I'm Working to find the unlocking code for mine. Wish you luck and do be afraid. Just be Patient :good:
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I will reccomend you to start over as it is in [Root] [CWM] Samgsung Galaxy Discover (SGH-730G) Tracfone Variant ONLYthread, which is in the first page. Do a factory reset if it can be done, and wipe all the catches. format your sd card and be patient, because i followed all the instructions and mine works fine. the only thing i haven't done is get rid of the yellow triangle but I'll doit later on because I'm Working to find the unlocking code for mine. Wish you luck and do be afraid. Just be Patient :good:
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I am getting this error on my computer not on my cell phone, My cell is a discover from straight talk. when i downloaded unlockroot from their website onto my computer and go to run it it wont even install. just keeps saying better installer stopped working. Again this is on my computer not on my cell phone.
Uninstall then re-download UnlockRoot .. I had that problem first time I tried to run it. Also, there is the actual free program, amd another program file that pulls up an order and download program for the pro version. Maybe you clicked that one instead?
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I have a debloated, deodexed, zip aligned, rooted version of the stock rom completed. Working on the updater script which is being a pain in my ass. Soon as it is done and tested I'll post it.
I've been behind on it as my volunteer work and family obligations have been my primary focus. But it is something I still try to work on to give this phone a little boost.
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Here it's what you're looking for my Friend
pokesmot88 said:
I am getting this error on my computer not on my cell phone, My cell is a discover from straight talk. when i downloaded unlockroot from their website onto my computer and go to run it it wont even install. just keeps saying better installer stopped working. Again this is on my computer not on my cell phone.
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Il' PM you the unlock root pro with the serial because I can't post it until I make 10 or more post. Download both items, install the software and then copy > paste the serial and start rooting your phone. Don't forguet to make a back up of your original not rooted rom and save it in your computer and sd card in case something goes wrong just restore it to it's original state.
TheGeekyNimrod said:
I have a debloated, deodexed, zip aligned, rooted version of the stock rom completed. Working on the updater script which is being a pain in my ass. Soon as it is done and tested I'll post it.
I've been behind on it as my volunteer work and family obligations have been my primary focus. But it is something I still try to work on to give this phone a little boost.
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I have a SGH-S730M that I bought unlocked off of ebay, and wound up giving it to my wife. After looking at the specs for the SGH-S730G it sounds like they are identical other than one being sold by Telus and the other being sold by net10. Is the SGH-730G unlocked by default? I'm interested in getting one to try my hand at modifying. One of my few key complaints about the SGH-S730M was that even though it didn't have the touchwiz launcher it still had the samsung style lock screen instead of the stock ICS lock screen. Would xposed or any of the other stuff you mentioned allow me to change that back to stock?
Also the battery issue you mentioned also seems to affect the S730M as well, it is more than a little annoying.
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I have a SGH-S730M that I bought unlocked off of ebay, and wound up giving it to my wife. After looking at the specs for the SGH-S730G it sounds like they are identical other than one being sold by Telus and the other being sold by net10. Is the SGH-730G unlocked by default? I'm interested in getting one to try my hand at modifying. One of my few key complaints about the SGH-S730M was that even though it didn't have the touchwiz launcher it still had the samsung style lock screen instead of the stock ICS lock screen. Would xposed or any of the other stuff you mentioned allow me to change that back to stock?
Also the battery issue you mentioned also seems to affect the S730M as well, it is more than a little annoying.
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They are pretty much the same device yes. The 730G I bought was through StraightTalk so it wasn't unlocked. I'm sure you could find one unlocked on Ebay or maybe Swappa or something similar. I do hate the Samsung stock lockscreen too. Stock, Xposed won't do the AOSP lockscreen style. Once I have the deodexed working and ready it should. There is another way to bring it up, but it's a little beyond my experience, but also requires a deodexed system.
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They are pretty much the same device yes. The 730G I bought was through StraightTalk so it wasn't unlocked. I'm sure you could find one unlocked on Ebay or maybe Swappa or something similar. I do hate the Samsung stock lockscreen too. Stock, Xposed won't do the AOSP lockscreen style. Once I have the deodexed working and ready it should. There is another way to bring it up, but it's a little beyond my experience, but also requires a deodexed system.
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Cool I will be watching this thread for updates. I just bought a used SGH-730G that I am willing to do test flashes on the rom if you need a tester. I got it for a super super cheap price so I won't get upset if it gets bricked.
So I looked into all the stuff for rooting my T-mobile Note 3, checked to make sure that the multi touch bug wasn't there (I think I did it right), red up on the process and watched the video for the CF auto root 3 times before I did it. The root went without a hitch, I was able to install a few root programs (titanium, pimp my rom, Greenify, FullScreen, DriveDroid, Good Mood Droid Gesture Control, Stick Mount, AFWall+, Samba File Sharing, and some others I can't recall off the top of my head).
I was able to make a back up with Titanium, I went into AFWall+ and tweaked all my apps (only white apps in the list) and there was another "security" app I used, but it's name eludes me at this time (it was fairly similar to AFWall+. After that the phone just goes through a incessant boot loop. Starts up (which takes a little bit longer then normal), works for about 60 seconds normally, locks up and restarts. I tried pulling the battery and shutting it down, but it continues to do it.
I'm just wondering what could have caused this, how to fix it and what to do to ensure it doesn't happen again.
Thanks
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So I looked into all the stuff for rooting my T-mobile Note 3, checked to make sure that the multi touch bug wasn't there (I think I did it right), red up on the process and watched the video for the CF auto root 3 times before I did it. The root went without a hitch, I was able to install a few root programs (titanium, pimp my rom, Greenify, FullScreen, DriveDroid, Good Mood Droid Gesture Control, Stick Mount, AFWall+, Samba File Sharing, and some others I can't recall off the top of my head).
I was able to make a back up with Titanium, I went into AFWall+ and tweaked all my apps (only white apps in the list) and there was another "security" app I used, but it's name eludes me at this time (it was fairly similar to AFWall+. After that the phone just goes through a incessant boot loop. Starts up (which takes a little bit longer then normal), works for about 60 seconds normally, locks up and restarts. I tried pulling the battery and shutting it down, but it continues to do it.
I'm just wondering what could have caused this, how to fix it and what to do to ensure it doesn't happen again.
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If I were you I would start over again and Odin flash the stock official N900T 4.3 stock rom from
SamMobile.com or any other place which has it available for downloading.
After doing that, use the cf-auto root to root the phone and odin flash twrp or cwm recovery.
Once that's done make a Nandroid backup in recovery so next time when you have these bootloops,
lockups and other issues you can simply restore your rooted Nandroid backup.
All those apps you mentioned with the exception of titanium backup which you used to "TWEAK" your
phone are causing the issues you are having, there is no good reason to even use all those tweaking
apps and most likely are totally un-necessary in the first place.
If your phone works properly after odin flashing official stock firmware and rooting it then the fault
is not in the phone, or the official rom but the fault is in one of those tweaking tools you like to use
either because it's faulty, or you don't know how to use it.
If you can get into advanced settings of your WiFi connection in the 60 seconds before freezing, uncheck "always allow scanning". This had been known to cause boot loops for some people.
If it still loops, try uninstalling all those apps one by one to see which so is causing the issue.
And if that doesn't fix it, I would do as suggested above with the restore.
Sent from any phone that isn't made by Apple.
Maybe you could try something simple first: safe boot. In safe boot the culprit app should not start and if the damage is not in system files, that should give you chance to delete programs one by one and possibly find a culprit, otherwise, if you restore the ROM, you'll never know which one caused the problem. I would assume you wiped cache and if all failed, maybe factory reset?
[Q&A] Hyperdrive Rom Note 10.1 2014 ║ Non-Development Discussion ║ Support
Hyperdrive Rom Support Thread
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smart scrolling ???
Hello ,
I flashed Hyperdrive+RLS3 after wipe data/cache/dalvik cache ,
with hope that smart scroll will work , but it's not working at all,apart from flashing eye in notification panel.
Please solve that problem some how ....
By the way nice work on rom :good: and .
Missing Lock Settings?
To begin, I am reporting a (possible) bug for Hyperdrive RLS3 on my SM-P600 on TWRP 2.7.0.2. I have verified the md5 on my zip prior to each flash. I have been able to replicate/repeat this "bug" on multiple installs (where I have fully/cleanly wiped the device each time).
I've found that my lock screen security detailed options are forever set to those for "swipe" regardless of what I have chosen for my lock screen security option. Even if I set a pattern, pin, password, etc. lock, the options below are always set to those as if I had chosen "swipe" as my lockscreen setting. The lock option that I am selecting still works, but I am unable to see or tweak any of the specific settings associated with each of the particular lock screen security options (e.g. I am unable to toggle the visibility of my pattern, as this option doesn't appear, if I choose the "pattern" lock option. However, the device still asks me for a pattern to unlock with). I can only ever see/modify the "swipe options" such as the "unlock effect", "ink effect", etc.
Is anyone else having this problem too?
Good day all, I just installed rls3 and everything is working fine so far except the penwindow/multi window manager. Adding the apps I want follwed by saving and rebooting does not do anything for me? Anybody have the same issue or am I not doing to correctly?
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Good day all, I just installed rls3 and everything is working fine so far except the penwindow/multi window manager. Adding the apps I want follwed by saving and rebooting does not do anything for me? Anybody have the same issue or am I not doing to correctly?
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Observed, I will look into it and hopefully fix
Latest Netflix Working
I have installed RLS3.1 and Netflix v.3.7.1 is working fine for me…no xposed module and no version rollback.
Here are a few of the choices I made when installing Hyperdrive. Maybe this information can help the developer or other users figure out where the problem with signing in is (or isn’t).
I steered clear of many of the eye candy options simply due to personal preference.
I mainly use Hyperdrive for the fixes, battery life and speed compared to stock.
Full system wipe through TW…not just data/cache.
Hyperdrive TW Note 10.1 Launcher
Hyperdrive Light Note Pro UI
Very few of the Samsung apps (Dropbox, Font Pack, Link, STranslate)
No Weather Widget
No Email App (I use K-9)
No Audio Mod
Stock Note Boot Animation
Ad Blocking
ES File Manager (even though I use X-plore)
Very few Google AOSP (Maps, Youtube, Camera)
Samsung Music Player
No additional keyboard (I use Dashlane’s)
Tubemate
Stock 4.4 Kernel
Once set up I installed Nova Launcher, TiBu, Lux and Greenify.
I also used ROM Toolbox to edit build.prop product model entry to say SM-P600 instead of SM-T800.
The only HD Tweaks are show Network Traffic, Date Style, Battery Style, and Ink Effect.
The only xposed modules active are App Settings, Greenify, and NlpUnbounce.
That’s about it for system related apps/settings.
I hope this helps.
Not certain but that change might have fixed netflix app for me.
I made the change, rebooted, cleared the app cache and i could sign in. I couldn't before.
Whistler1813 said:
I also used ROM Toolbox to edit build.prop product model entry to say SM-P600 instead of SM-T800.
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ultim said:
Not certain but that change might have fixed netflix app for me.
I made the change, rebooted, cleared the app cache and i could sign in. I couldn't before.
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That's good to know. If that is, in fact, the fix then it's a heck of a lot easier for folks to implement than re-wiping and selecting different system mods.
I hope some other Hyperdrive folks that are having problems with Netflix try this out as well. I'm also wondering if maybe the model number mismatch is causing some app or system issues that only seem to affect certain people and not others with otherwise the exact same configuration.
wake up problem
Everything works totally fine except wake up it takes 5-8 sec ... can u please help
Donation
Long time lurker, and have never signed in to post before, therefore I don't have enough posts to write in the Development section, but I just wanted you to know Scott I just slid you $40.00 for a new tablet. Keep this awesome rom moving onwards!
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unstabl1 said:
Long time lurker, and have never signed in to post before, therefore I don't have enough posts to write in the Development section, but I just wanted you to know Scott I just slid you $40.00 for a new tablet. Keep this awesome rom moving onwards!
Transaction Id: 55K23427EM124153F
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Thanks for your support!
Not sure if it's a kernel or rom issue but I'm on hyperdrive 3.0 with xluco and I bought this dual flashdrive:
Kingston Digital 64GB Data Traveler Micro Duo USB 3.0 Micro USB OTG (DTDUO3/64GB) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00LIXJ54K/ref=cm_sw_r_awd_uVaqub148TMN0
Which works perfect on my S4 with KK, it gets detected without problems by the SM-P600 but I cannot explore with either My Files or ES Explorer, it gives me a systemui FC.
Anybody else can test?
Sent from my SGH-I337M using Tapatalk
refurbed Note 10.1
Newegg has refurbished 16GB notes for $350 now and Groupon matches and also has the 32GB for $20 more. Hopefully we'll see another Hyperdrive version - I'm planning on installing mine this week
Hyperdrive ROM, Pen window manager not working
So I installed Hyperdrive rom RLS 3.1 for my sm-p600, problem is that the pen window manager app is not working, I select my app (MX video player) in the options of pen window manager to enable it in pen mode but after restarting it still does not show up when i try to edit the apps available for pen windows using the s-pen
Edit: I fixed it, problem was that I have a separate app for the pen window manager that I restored using titanium backup. I uninstalled it in the play store and used the native pen window manager via the Hyperdrive rom tweak app..
wiped to reinstall: cmd adb cant locate the device
I may seem like it, but im not a noob... long story short, Im dealing with a TBI, so im a bit rusty.
I have a sm-p600, flashed Chain fire with, installed nandroid and backed everything up, flashed 4.4.2 firmware with odin. I flashed twrp recovery and sideloaded hyperdrive custom rom via adb.
Everything was great, excellent rom! I had a few issues with it, mainly touchWiz would crash if I tried to change the lock screen wallpaper via pressing and holding the home screen. Also, settings would also randomly crash as well. I did some research through the forums and came to the conclusion that I might have messed up on selecting the options during installation (something with the launcher). SOOOO, my dumb a** attempts to re-install the rom. I factory reset, wiped, and cleaned the whole thing with bleach ( metaphorically aka twrp). I reboot in TWRP recovery, go to advanced--->sideload--->... then my win 7 pc fails to install the MTP drivers. I reboot, replug, "overlap drivers", get it to detect, but adb cant detect the device. So, I bust open ctrl panel uninstall the samsung drivers, adp drivers, and pdanet; then, i reinstalled different drivers that i found from another thread and i cant detect the device from cmd adb commands.
I think it might be a usb debugging issue, because if everything was left constant as far as drivers go and it was wiped, the issue must be occurring on the tablet.
I forgot about that thought when I woke up and messed around with the drivers downloading universal drivers and what not. Device manager now recognizes the device as google nexus adb interface but cmd adb still cant find the device.
Please help!
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I have a question. I have used xkat 4 rom for two weeks and my battery life is 8,30-9 ours SOT. I know every device and user is different, but how many ours of SOT do you get with this rom? Just to know, because I am doubting to change to this rom.
Thank you
should i start from scratch or throw the the custom rom on an external
xdaprotege said:
I may seem like it, but im not a noob... long story short, Im dealing with a TBI, so im a bit rusty.
I have a sm-p600, flashed Chain fire with, installed nandroid and backed everything up, flashed 4.4.2 firmware with odin. I flashed twrp recovery and sideloaded hyperdrive custom rom via adb.
Everything was great, excellent rom! I had a few issues with it, mainly touchWiz would crash if I tried to change the lock screen wallpaper via pressing and holding the home screen. Also, settings would also randomly crash as well. I did some research through the forums and came to the conclusion that I might have messed up on selecting the options during installation (something with the launcher). SOOOO, my dumb a** attempts to re-install the rom. I factory reset, wiped, and cleaned the whole thing with bleach ( metaphorically aka twrp). I reboot in TWRP recovery, go to advanced--->sideload--->... then my win 7 pc fails to install the MTP drivers. I reboot, replug, "overlap drivers", get it to detect, but adb cant detect the device. So, I bust open ctrl panel uninstall the samsung drivers, adp drivers, and pdanet; then, i reinstalled different drivers that i found from another thread and i cant detect the device from cmd adb commands.
I think it might be a usb debugging issue, because if everything was left constant as far as drivers go and it was wiped, the issue must be occurring on the tablet.
I forgot about that thought when I woke up and messed around with the drivers downloading universal drivers and what not. Device manager now recognizes the device as google nexus adb interface but cmd adb still cant find the device.
Please help!
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Sorry to double post, but can I just throw hyperdrive rom on a external sd and flash threw twrp? or do I have to download stock 4.4.2 firmware flash with odin, rootcheck/reroot, and sideload hyperdrive rom via sideload if it detects after the firmware flash?
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Sorry to double post, but can I just throw hyperdrive rom on a external sd and flash threw twrp? or do I have to download stock 4.4.2 firmware flash with odin, rootcheck/reroot, and sideload hyperdrive rom via sideload if it detects after the firmware flash?
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i just read real quick but yes you can put on ext. sd card and flash from there with twrp.Just make sure when you hit install your checking external card.It should show up.Are you already rooted ?Im having the same problem when trying to connect my tablet to my pc.It doesnt reconize it and i also cant pull any files off with a decompile program cause it doesnt or adb doesnt see it.
Softbrick
mikep2323 said:
i just read real quick but yes you can put on ext. sd card and flash from there with twrp.Just make sure when you hit install your checking external card.It should show up.Are you already rooted ?Im having the same problem when trying to connect my tablet to my pc.It doesnt reconize it and i also cant pull any files off with a decompile program cause it doesnt or adb doesnt see it.
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I was rooted, but im not 100% sure I still am after i did the advance wipe. Twrp asks if I want to install super su right before I reboot, so I assume I am. I'm not exactly sure what you did and what your symptoms are, but I personally did a twrp advance wipe including the internal storage which was where my rom was located. As a result, the tablet is soft bricked b/c it doesnt have an OS.
You can use odin to AP/PDA flash the stock firmware, but it HAS to be the same firmware build version of your device before the brick occurred. AKA bricked on 4.4.2 custom kitkat, then flash stock 4.4.2 kitkat via odin. Just make sure the software is for your device and country before installing.(http://www.galaxynote3update.com/fi...-the-unbrick-and-recovery-guide-just-for-you/).
Here's a helpful link that you might find useful: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2608951
My question is: can I just flash the custom rom back onto the device or do I have to flash the orignal firmware?
Install on Note Pro
Hi I have the 12.2 Note Pro and was wondering if this ROM will work on it?
In my defence, m’lud, I spent about 6 hours yesterday reading through a great many threads before posting this one. It’s amazing how hard it can be to pick up a slightly unfamiliar technology when it’s not the one you're used to… I spent the latter half of my life in IT (Windows), but really struggle with this phone stuff.
I expect it's just the terminology… when you guys talk about a bootloader, I’m thinking that’s roughly the same as a BIOS on a computer…? Then there’s the “recovery” thingy… is that like a recovery partition on a Windows machine? But then some threads seem to suggest you over-write that when rooting, so is the original factory image lost forever?
My main reason for wanting to root my M8 is to remove all the bloatware HTC put on it. I can read the instructions for rooting here, but I don’t like blindly following anything I don’t understand, for obvious reasons!
I kind of gather that the “ROM” is the operating system… if I root the phone, does that automatically obliterate the existing one, necessitating a new one, or can I just gain the access I need to delete the horrible factory apps, and keep everything else?
I’ve read through several tutorials, and they’re easy to follow, but not easy to understand, if you get me… they’ll say things like download this, flash that… but I don’t really know what’s going on when you flash something – what am I over-writing etc.
Is there a thread anywhere which explains what these various things actually ARE?
Oh, and I’ve been playing various King games for years, and have got a long way. I’ve tried to figure out how to back them up – the King website is possibly the most unhelpful I’ve come across. People mention various utilities (I think maybe Titanium etc), but if they only work on a rooted phone, they presumably can’t be used to back the games up prior to rooting…
Sorry about all this guys – not asking you to re-invent the wheel, but f there are specific threads that already answer my questions to get me started, I’d be VERY grateful
Thanks
Roger
Roger465 said:
In my defence, m’lud, I spent about 6 hours yesterday reading through a great many threads before posting this one. It’s amazing how hard it can be to pick up a slightly unfamiliar technology when it’s not the one you're used to… I spent the latter half of my life in IT (Windows), but really struggle with this phone stuff.
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Aye, it takes a bit of time to learn all the things and understand them.
Me, after being really familiar with a Sony device had to spend XX hours reading about HTC and after few years there are still things that I don't know
Roger465 said:
I expect it's just the terminology… when you guys talk about a bootloader, I’m thinking that’s roughly the same as a BIOS on a computer…? Then there’s the “recovery” thingy… is that like a recovery partition on a Windows machine? But then some threads seem to suggest you over-write that when rooting, so is the original factory image lost forever?
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I'd rather say recovery is closer to bios., but bootloader matches too.
Recovery is a partition that all android phones have and it can be accessed in case when the system dies to factory reset and things. Stock recovery is good, but it can't be used to flash things like roms and kernels, so we use TWRP - a custom recovery with many options.
Original recovery is overwritten, but can be restored.
As for bootloader it's kinda like a gate - a locked one prevents booting and flashing of any unauthorized files, like custom recovery for example. Unlocking it removes this restriction. That's one fuction of bootloader, another one is starting up the system - like a bios - and can be accessed by a button combination durning boot up, it's also called hboot. In it you can see some essential info about phone software and boot to recovery.
Roger465 said:
My main reason for wanting to root my M8 is to remove all the bloatware HTC put on it. I can read the instructions for rooting here, but I don’t like blindly following anything I don’t understand, for obvious reasons!
I kind of gather that the “ROM” is the operating system… if I root the phone, does that automatically obliterate the existing one, necessitating a new one, or can I just gain the access I need to delete the horrible factory apps, and keep everything else?
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ROM is the android itself, drivers, kernel and manufacturer's interface, apps, tweaks, settings. and probably something else I've missed. I think it would be somewhat correct to call this operating system. Rooting is gaining superuser access on the phone - it can be used to give extended functionality to apps, like making modifications in system itself. Pretty similiar to "run as administrator" in windows. Rooting itself won't remove the rom.
Roger465 said:
I’ve read through several tutorials, and they’re easy to follow, but not easy to understand, if you get me… they’ll say things like download this, flash that… but I don’t really know what’s going on when you flash something – what am I over-writing etc.
Is there a thread anywhere which explains what these various things actually ARE?
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Those should give you a basic knowledge:
https://www.androidcentral.com/dictionary
https://android.gadgethacks.com/news/big-android-dictionary-glossary-terms-you-should-know-0165594/
Roger465 said:
Oh, and I’ve been playing various King games for years, and have got a long way. I’ve tried to figure out how to back them up – the King website is possibly the most unhelpful I’ve come across. People mention various utilities (I think maybe Titanium etc), but if they only work on a rooted phone, they presumably can’t be used to back the games up prior to rooting…
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Titanium backup is an app used to backup other apps, but it requires root. To get root you need a custom recovery and for it you need an unlocked bootloader.
Unlocking the bootloader will wipe all data from the phone. I'm not aware of many working methods to backup apps and their data.
There's an app called Helium, but there are many complaints that it doesn't fully work. You can try syncing all data to your google account or adb backup.
A lot of the basic terminology is explained here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=52484527#post52484527
My responses below in red font:
Roger465 said:
when you guys talk about a bootloader, I’m thinking that’s roughly the same as a BIOS on a computer…?
I'd say that is a pretty good analogy. It's responsible for loading the OS, same as BIOS does on a PC. And as long as you can get into bootloader, the phone is recoverable almost regardless of what else you did (within some limits).
Then there’s the “recovery” thingy… is that like a recovery partition on a Windows machine? But then some threads seem to suggest you over-write that when rooting, so is the original factory image lost forever?
Recovery is the tool for making or restoring backup (and also flashing ROMs and other mods like root). And not the actually backup itself. So that is one important distinction to remember.
Installing custom recovery (TWRP) will overwrite the stock recovery, that is true. You can only have one recovery at a time.
Stock recovery is easy to restore; and the stock recoveries are available on this forum. But stock recovery is close to useless. The only reason you would need stock recovery, is to install an official OTA (over-the-air) upated. And HTC was done updating this phone a long time ago (with Marshmallow) and there will be no more updates. Therefore, no need for stock recovery.
Since you've decided to do to the dark side and root; custom recovery TWRP as vastly more useful than stock recovery (as also mentioned in the previous response). To be honest, I can't say I've booted to stock recovery on this or any HTC device I've owned (and it's been several) even once. Never used it, and never needed to.
I kind of gather that the “ROM” is the operating system… if I root the phone, does that automatically obliterate the existing one, necessitating a new one, or can I just gain the access I need to delete the horrible factory apps, and keep everything else?
Depending on root method (SuperSU or Magisk), root will make changes to the system and/or kernel (which comprise the OS or ROM). It's still the stock ROM, just with some minor changes to allow superuser access. You can and should make a backup or your stock ROM, before rooting, using TWRP custom recovery. This gives you an easy way to restore to stock unrooted ROM, if you ever want to. And also gives you an easy "escape hatch" if anything goes wrong while trying to root. There are other tools on this forum for restoring the stock ROM. But best practice (and just plain common sense) is to make a backup in TWRP.
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There's an app called Helium, but there are many complaints that it doesn't fully work. You can try syncing all data to your google account or adb backup.
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All backup methods are far from perfect, especially before/without root. I'll agree that Helium is probably the best bet for the OP to backup things like game saves.
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Roger465 said:
It’s amazing how hard it can be to pick up a slightly unfamiliar technology when it’s not the one you're used to… I spent the latter half of my life in IT (Windows), but really struggle with this phone stuff.
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Stick with it. Every technology has its own lingo and nuances. Even from one Android device to another, there is a learning curve. I've found myself wondering: "WTF is a blob, or Odin" when switching to other Android devices.
With your IT experience, it shouldn't take much to pickup the necessary knowledge.
Thanks guys, kind of you to go to so much trouble to explain for me. Wish I had two phone,s then I could play around messing one up... will read a bit more, then give it a go in a day or two I think. But just to clarify again, can I give myself the rights to remove stock bloatware, while maintaining my familiar Android environment, the apps I use at the moment etc, or do I have to install a custom ROM if I root?
Cheers
Roger465 said:
can I give myself the rights to remove stock bloatware, while maintaining my familiar Android environment, the apps I use at the moment etc, or do I have to install a custom ROM if I root?
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Yes, the OS will remain the same.
Whether you can remove bloat apps after root is a little complicated to explain. You would normally expect to be able to delete system apps (which bloat apps are) with root. However, for whatever reason, HTC decided to write-protect the system partition, even with root. This means that if you try to delete apps when the phone is booted to OS, (depending on what method you used to delete the apps) you will find they return when the phone is rebooted.
You can flash a kernel mod to disable the write protection, or install a custom kernel. Or you may find the easiest work around (after root) is to use the file manager within TWRP to delete the bloat apps.
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Vomer's guide is a good one, for unlocking the bootloader, custom recovery and root:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-one-m8/general/vomerguides-m8-bootldr-unlock-s-off-t2800727
It's a bit outdated, so some words of advice:
- Only follow parts 0 and 1 of the guide. The sections after that aren't needed (s-off and SuperCID) for root, and the s-off method no longer works.
- Use an updated version TWRP from what is in the guide. If you are currently on Marshmallow, the current version TWRP 3.2.1.0 should work. Or basically any version 2.8.7 or later. You can get TWRP here: https://dl.twrp.me/m8/
- Similarly, use current version SuperSU 2.82 (use TWRP flashable zip from here): https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/supersu/stable-2016-09-01supersu-v2-78-release-t3452703
Or alternately, you can use Magisk to root, instead of SuperSU. Honestly, Magisk is really cool, and has lots of features that SuperSU doesn't. So I suggest checking it out: https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/magisk/official-magisk-v7-universal-systemless-t3473445
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Vomer's guide is a good one, for unlocking the bootloader, custom recovery and root
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Hhmmm, not getting very far with that procedure. Difficulties so far:
- Enable USB debugging in your phone's Developer options - DONE
- Un-check "Fast boot" on your phone by going to Settings -> Battery Manager – NO SUCH OPTION
- Install ADB and Fastboot on your computer - DONE
- Make sure to back up all of your app data using either ADB or HTC Sync, because you will be wiping your phone – JUST PLAYING AROUND WITH CONNECTING TO THE PHONE AT THIS STAGE
- Install the HTC One M8 drivers on your computer (if you have HTC Sync installed, then you already have them) - DONE
Enter Fastboot (bootloader) Mode
Place your device into fastboot mode by plugging in your HTC One to your computer,
then powering it down by holding both the Power and Volume Down buttons until you see the screen below – WHEN I DO THAT, IT JUST TAKES A SCREENSHOT
Roger465 said:
Hhmmm, not getting very far with that procedure. Difficulties so far:
- Un-check "Fast boot" on your phone by going to Settings -> Battery Manager – NO SUCH OPTION
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It was only available back on 4.4. It was removed in 5.0 and above, no need to worry about it now.
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Enter Fastboot (bootloader) Mode
Place your device into fastboot mode by plugging in your HTC One to your computer,
then powering it down by holding both the Power and Volume Down buttons until you see the screen below – WHEN I DO THAT, IT JUST TAKES A SCREENSHOT
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The guide is a bit inaccurate in this one. Turn off your phone, then press power and vol down - you should get into bootloader. Select fastboot and when it gets into fastboot, plug in the usb, it should change to "fastboot usb" - or at least I think it was like this.
My phone refuses to boot up after I turn it off. Have to help it with a soft reset and then hold vol down so it gets into bootloader, so I can't fully confirm.
Roger465 said:
- Un-check "Fast boot" on your phone by going to Settings -> Battery Manager – NO SUCH OPTION
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As mentioned in the previous response, this doesn't apply anymore. The feature doesn't exist (hasn't since Kitkat) and therefore does not need to be turned off.
Also note, this option is not to be confused with the fastboot/adb interface (virtually the same name, for different things) which is still fully working, and required to unlock the bootloader and flash custom recovery. The power option "Fast boot" was just a feature used by HTC to make the phone turn on faster. It was merely a "deep sleep" trick which was not a true "power down" and would interfere with accessing bootloader/fastboot mode if you tried to it from a "power off" condition (since in fact it wasn't truly powered off).
Again, it's irrelevant now, and you don't need to worry about that step at all.
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Phalangioides said:
The guide is a bit inaccurate in this one. Turn off your phone, then press power and vol down - you should get into bootloader.
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Agreed, the guide is a little incorrect on that step, and I hadn't caught that (error in the guide) before. Power+vol down to access bootloader, will only work when the phone is powered off.
To the OP, another method/trick to access bootloader:
1) While the phone is on, reboot the phone by holding down the power button, and select "reboot" (or restart, I forget exactly what it says)
2) Once the screen goes dark to reboot, but before the white HTC logo screen appears, hold down the vol down button. Don't let go until you see the white bootloader screen.
3) If the phone simply restart to OS, you simply got the timing wrong. You either started pressing vol down too late, or let go too early. Just repeat steps 1 and 2 until you get it right.
Another alternative, is to force a reboot by holding power+vol up. Again, once the screen goes dark to reboot, but before the HTC logo screen appears, hold the vol down button only. In this case, you simply let go of the power button, and slide your finger down to the vol down button, and don't let go until the bootloader screen appears. This method is handy to know, since it works in all cases when the phone is powered on, even of the phone is "frozen" or stuck not loading the OS.
Phalangioides said:
Select fastboot and when it gets into fastboot, plug in the usb, it should change to "fastboot usb" - or at least I think it was like this.
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If the phone is already connected to the PC by USB cable before going to bootloader, it should default to fastboot mode once the bootloader is accessed.
Not sure if it will automatically switch to fastboot mode if you are in bootloader, then plug in the USB cable. But that may well be true (and would make sense).
In either case, if it's not in fastboot mode, simply select "fastboot" by using the vol buttons, and confirm the choice by pressing the power button. You should see "fastboot" highlighted in red near the top of the screen.
Phalangioides said:
Turn off your phone, then press power and vol down - you should get into bootloader. Select fastboot and when it gets into fastboot, plug in the usb, it should change to "fastboot usb" - or at least I think it was like this.
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Wahay! That worked fine, thanks both. Hope you can appreciate, though, how scary it can be for somebody like me following instructions I don't really understand, when the expected thing doesn't happen – visions of bricks keep coming into my mind
OK, will practice these steps a few times till they’re 2nd nature. I have managed to retrieve my phone identifier thingy though
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Hope you can appreciate, though, how scary it can be for somebody like me following instructions I don't really understand, when the expected thing doesn't happen – visions of bricks keep coming into my mind
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Don't worry, you won't brick this device with what you are doing (unlock bootloader, custom recovery & root). In fact, this device is very hard to brick. As long as the screen comes on, it can almost always be recovered.
Worst case, is that something goes wrong, and you can't boot the phone. Maybe you did something wrong, or maybe just some random event that was not fault of yours. And maybe it takes you an (hairpulling) hour to find the answer, and figure out what went wrong (or how to recover from the problem). But that pretty much happens to everyone who mods these devices from time to time. If you work IT, you've been there. Stressful, but hardly ever catastrophic.
Woo hoo! Got my unlock code. Now time for some more studying before I do anything drastic - specifically how to back up.
I think the HTC Sync Manager will handle most of it? My contacts are all on Google anyway... main worry is 2 years' progress on various King games
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Now time for some more studying before I do anything drastic - specifically how to back up.
I think the HTC Sync Manager will handle most of it? My contacts are all on Google anyway... main worry is 2 years' progress on various King games
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I don't use HTC Sync, personally. So I really don't know. I typically root my devices pretty soon after getting them, and therefore never had to use any no-root backup solutions (Titanium Backup is my go-to backup app, but requires root). A number of folks around these forums have suggested Helium for backing up app data when no rooted (and it was mentioned before on this thread).
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I don't use HTC Sync, personally. So I really don't know. I typically root my devices pretty soon after getting them, and therefore never had to use any no-root backup solutions (Titanium Backup is my go-to backup app, but requires root). A number of folks around these forums have suggested Helium for backing up app data when no rooted (and it was mentioned before on this thread).
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Yeah... it doesn't fill me with confidence. I'm sure I'd do exactly as you if it was rooted. I'll probably do it with several different backup apps, and hope that one of them will do it
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Yeah... it doesn't fill me with confidence. I'm sure I'd do exactly as you if it was rooted. I'll probably do it with several different backup apps, and hope that one of them will do it
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The first unlock bootloader will restore your phone. Cross your finger if the game data has been backed up. :fingers-crossed:
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I don't use HTC Sync, personally. So I really don't know. I typically root my devices pretty soon after getting them, and therefore never had to use any no-root backup solutions (Titanium Backup is my go-to backup app, but requires root). A number of folks around these forums have suggested Helium for backing up app data when no rooted (and it was mentioned before on this thread).
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I don't play games so I can't really confirm all games are same.
On my experience transfering games data from one device to another (for nieces & nephews), the data is stored in internal storage android\data\games folder & android\obb\games folder. I copy these two out and transfer them to new device.
(Also check sdcard android folder)
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Yeah... it doesn't fill me with confidence. I'm sure I'd do exactly as you if it was rooted. I'll probably do it with several different backup apps, and hope that one of them will do it
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I agree with the approach, make different backups and hope one or more works properly. Games and other apps don't all save data the same way, so no single approach will work in all cases.
Me again, sorry… shortly after that post, I dropped the thing and broke the screen. For one reason or another, I ended up getting a Samsung S6, which I’m quite happy with.
But I want to use the HTC as a spare/emergency phone – trouble is I can’t remember what I’ve done to it, apart from installing something which was recommended as part of my attempted rooting process.
When I switch it on I get the screen below – but no matter which option I select, it just seems to either switch it off or loop back to this screen.
I didn’t go any further than install whatever software it was that gives me this boot menu screen.
I’m no longer interested in rooting it etc – just went to restore it to factory settings and leave it.
Can anybody tell me how please…?
Thanks
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I can’t remember what I’ve done to it, apart from installing something which was recommended as part of my attempted rooting process.
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Obviously, if you don't know what you did, it's hard for us to figure out as well.
The "LOCKED" banner at the top of the bootloader screen means the bootloader was never unlocked. So really, no actual mods were done to the phone by you.
All I can think, the "something" what you installed was possibly the Helium app (recommended by another user back up on this thread) which can be used to backup/restore your app data.
Roger465 said:
I didn’t go any further than install whatever software it was that gives me this boot menu screen.
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I don't know what you're trying to say here. You'll need to be more specific (at least try) than "whatever software". Did you flash something to the phone? Or only installed something to your PC (drivers, fastboot, etc.).
We need to properly understood what you've done, before we can assist further.
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Obviously, if you don't know what you did, it's hard for us to figure out as well.
The "LOCKED" banner at the top of the bootloader screen means the bootloader was never unlocked. So really, no actual mods were done to the phone by you.
All I can think, the "something" what you installed was possibly the Helium app (recommended by another user back up on this thread) which can be used to backup/restore your app data.
I don't know what you're trying to say here. You'll need to be more specific (at least try) than "whatever software". Did you flash something to the phone? Or only installed something to your PC (drivers, fastboot, etc.).
We need to properly understood what you've done, before we can assist further.
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Yeah… sorry, I’m aware how unhelpful my post is. Unfortunately, it was a while ago now, life went tits up for quite a while, and the phone lay in a drawer, being a very low priority. I used to take it out occasionally and charge it up – it started normally.
The other day, I realised I hadn’t charged it in many months, so took it out, and sure enough it was completely dead – so I plugged it in, and it came up with the screen as posted. I let it charge for a couple of hours, then rebooted, and it came up that way again. No matter which option I select from the menu, it either just shuts down, or reboots to that screen.
I’m virtually certain I didn’t do anything other than enable the mode which lets you get to that boot screen, and that I didn’t get as far as flashing the phone or anything. Don't think I installed Helium - if I did, I didn't actually use it.
So it may just be that the phone has died from being left flat for so long… is that likely do you think?
Thanks and sorry again for the lack of info – I completely understand if you can’t help!
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I’m virtually certain I didn’t do anything other than enable the mode which lets you get to that boot screen, and that I didn’t get as far as flashing the phone or anything.
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Okay, so it was somewhat confusing, as you said previously (twice) that you "installed" something. But I think you are just confused, thinking that installing something is necessary to get to the bootloader screen. Which it isn't, that screen is part of the bootloader, without which your device would be a paperweight. It will sometimes default to this screen by virtually no action of yours (except powering it on) in cases when the Android Operating System (OS) is missing or damaged. Or you can simply access the bootloader screen by holding the button combo power+vol down.
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So it may just be that the phone has died from being left flat for so long… is that likely do you think?
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We've seen it a number of times, actually. The OS was probably corrupted or damaged by being powered off (battery dead) for so long. This condition is over recoverable, as long as the phone can power on, and you can get to bootloader (which you can).
You can restore the OS with the RUU (ROM Update Utility) tool. You can get the RUU, and instruction how to flash it from here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=64926626&postcount=6
Note: there is no need to lock the bootloader as the first part of the instructions say (your bootloader is still locked).