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Too many people I’ve met have misconceptions, wrong understanding or simply no idea at all about how to maintain the batteries inside their new spanking new electronic gadgets. More often than not, it will be one of those nifty, super-slim lithium-ion variants. So I decided to write this little primer to help you, erm, I mean, your techno-phobic friends along.
Note that my recommendations are catered along the lines of practical convenience as well as pure battery maintenance facts alone. As with everything, there is often more than a way to skin a cat. I do try to explain my rationale behind my recommendations, so do try to read on before clobbering me on the head with your PhD in advanced materials science.
Tip #1: Lithium-ion batteries are limited by their life-spans
Found an e-bay offer for a lithium-ion battery pack for your ageing notebook or PDA at bargain prices? Or saw that battery pack for your gadget in its dusty sealed package at the corner store of the flea market? Before you jump and snap it up, be sure to first check the manufacturer date.
We all know that all batteries are limited by a finite number of charging “cycles”. However, it is a little publicized fact that the lifespan of lithium-ion batteries are also limited by their manufacture date.
Your lithium-ion battery starts dying the moment it leaves the factory
The fact is, your lithium-ion battery starts dying the moment it leaves the factory! Of course, the actual life-span of an unused lithium-ion battery can vary by a fair amount based on its internal charge as well as the external temperature. But suffice to say that you can expect to irreversibly lose 20% of a lithium-ion battery’s charge every year from its original date of manufacture.
PDA came with more than one spare battery? Take it out of its shrink-wrap and use it interchangeably – today. Thinking of buying a “spare” battery for use in future? Well, just save the money and buy it only when you are ready to use it.
Tip #2: Avoid allowing your device to discharge completely
Every wondered why your modern phone, PDA or iPod is able to cheerfully tell you that “Your battery is now exhausted” for several seconds on its brightly-lid LCD screen before switching off? The reason is simple; there is an artificial circuit that shuts off the device when the charge in the battery is too low.
This extraneous circuit is built to protect from the damage that could result if the charge of your lithium ion battery falls too low. If you still don’t get it: if the charge of your lithium ion battery falls too low, the battery can get irreversibly and permanently damaged. So since Lithium Ion has no “memory effect”, it is better to simply charge your portable device as and when you can or remember.
To set your mind at ease, a “charge cycle” means a single iteration of depleting followed by a re-charge until 100% of battery charge. If you consume 50% of your iPod’s battery on day 1, recharge to 100% at night, and do the same thing on day 2, then you would have just finished up one charge cycle of its battery life.
Constantly recharging a lithium ion battery does not shorten the battery life more than normal usage would
Hence constantly recharging a lithium ion battery does not shorten the battery life more than normal usage would. Avoid letting it sit on empty for too long; instead, keep it charged-up if you can.
Tip #3: Take the battery out of your notebook computer when connected to AC helps… not!
Well ok, actually, taking out the battery from your notebook computer might help, but the reason it does is not really what you think it is.
It is not because of over-charging as most people might believe. There are some really smart circuits monitoring your lithium ion battery (See reason #2 above), and these circuits also ensure that your precious lithium ion never gets overcharged.
However, if there is another killer of lithium ion batteries other than old-age, then it would be heat. Long term exposure of a lithium ion battery to temperatures higher than 40 degrees Celsius permanently reduces its total charge capacity by noticeable percentages chunks per year. Having said that, I would hazard that modern processor like the Centrino Duo runs quite coolly overall.
On the other hand, it is really painful to see someone plug their AC adapter to their laptop, carefully remove the battery and put it aside, then finally sit down and switch on their laptop. Then have someone trip over their AC adapter an hour into an unsaved document. Ouch.
Unless you are setting up the laptop at Wal-Mart or Carrefour to run practically 24/7 until its time to sell it off at “display unit” pricing, my recommendation would be to save yourself the trouble and just leave the battery in. Actually, I think the real motivation to take the battery out of shop display units is to prevent theft. Really, why make it so inconvenient for yourself when the battery will be literally unusable in a few years time.
Source: http://www.articlesbase.com/laptops...w-about-your-lithium-ion-battery-4346670.html
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Some also claimed that we should minimize the duration of the battery remain at high voltage (e.g. 4.2v / 100%). This is spoil the battery because the corrosion activities are relatively high when the battery is in high voltage/ full charge.
Put it short, after fully charge your battery, please use it ASAP. It won't give birth little baby battery if you leave it there with full charge
One way of Storing Battery for Long time
If you were to store your battery for a long time, discharge it to 40%. Keep it in a dry and cool place.
For me, my engineer friend teach me a way to keep battery, and i have tried this myself for last few years.
I put the battery into the industrial grade vacuum bag and vacuum it (almost no air in the package), then i store it in my refrigerator (around 0 -3 Celsius). I do this if i want to keep the battery there to sit few months.
NOTE: Make sure it is really a vacuum bag. Else the air in the bag will become moist and may spoil your battery. Careful
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brilliant post.
nice! Didnt know about the battery cycles!
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Cheers for the info. Knew a few things but still did Tip #3
thanks for tip #2.
have to change the habit.
thanx
everyday i learn something new. Brilliant post.
Thx for the lesson
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Original Here >> www . techatplay . com /?p=61
April 7th, 2007
Author: Paul Mah
This is a lot of very useful information. I can guarantee that I have always been misinformed on two out of three of these tips. Though really do hardly ever let my batteries discharge completely, and only remove my batter from my laptop when absolutely necessary. Still, nice to know so I know what not to do anymore!
Very good post and you are absolutely right about everything. Leaving the battery in a laptop for long periods of time with the computer being on generates an enormous amount of heat and kills cells within the battery. One thing I'd like to mention, however, is that you should always leave a lithium-ion based battery between 40-60% to have the longest battery life; 20-80% is a realistic range you should keep the battery in and is the next best thing. You never want to fully charge a battery, just like you should not let the battery die (cycling the battery would be something that should happen though if you are not getting the best of your battery life). Again, try not to have your battery passed 80% and not below 20%.
Another good tip is to not let your lithium-ion based devices (such as a GPS) in your car when it is hot out (or at all) because it will get hotter in your car than outside, your device's battery will be outside of its operating temperature and it will have cells that die out which will decrease the lifespan of your device's battery.
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20-80% is a realistic range you should keep the battery in and is the next best thing. You never want to fully charge a battery, just like you should not let the battery die (cycling the battery would be something that should happen though if you are not getting the best of your battery life). Again, try not to have your battery passed 80% and not below 20%.
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Thanks for the sharing guy. That means u never charge ur phone until full? u plug off middle of charging (when it about to reach 80%)? This is true, but i hardly implement it because normally i leave it charged overnight. But the best time i can do is to minimize the time my battery will remain at high percentage (90 - 100%).
Good advice but it's hard to be diligent, and like most people my phone charges overnight.
nice info mang.
nice info. many people didnt know this
Xenova said:
Thanks for the sharing guy. That means u never charge ur phone until full? u plug off middle of charging (when it about to reach 80%)? This is true, but i hardly implement it because normally i leave it charged overnight. But the best time i can do is to minimize the time my battery will remain at high percentage (90 - 100%).
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That's correct; I TRY not to charge my phone passed 80%, but that's obviously hard to do when you need your battery to last all day with use anyway. I try not to ever charge it overnight either.
Excellent reading, thank you for your time and effort in posting this.
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Reign255 said:
Very good post and you are absolutely right about everything. Leaving the battery in a laptop for long periods of time with the computer being on generates an enormous amount of heat and kills cells within the battery. One thing I'd like to mention, however, is that you should always leave a lithium-ion based battery between 40-60% to have the longest battery life; 20-80% is a realistic range you should keep the battery in and is the next best thing. You never want to fully charge a battery, just like you should not let the battery die (cycling the battery would be something that should happen though if you are not getting the best of your battery life). Again, try not to have your battery passed 80% and not below 20%.
Another good tip is to not let your lithium-ion based devices (such as a GPS) in your car when it is hot out (or at all) because it will get hotter in your car than outside, your device's battery will be outside of its operating temperature and it will have cells that die out which will decrease the lifespan of your device's battery.
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good info. this is the first time i read this. where did you find this info? any reference links?
informative post & I assumed draining battery fully helped in longer battery life.
It actually seems like a rip-off afer reading thiss post XD
Thank you for the information.
everyday when I use the galaxy nexus my routine is.
before I sleep, I plug my phone to my phone charger and I pull it out after I wake up. so its basically charging for about 5-7 hours on average.
is this decreasing my battery life? because ever since I had the nexus, I did this and I have never had battery life compared to what people post on xda despite trying out roms/kernels.
so that was my first question.
my second question is, is flashing like getting a new device? after I flash, is the battery life suppose to be bad?
I constantly flash almost every other day and I'm not sure if this is the reason my battery life is so bad.
am I suppose to use my phone for couple weeks before I get good battery life?
btw. I have a cdma galaxy nexus .thanks
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1°) Is battery life reduced after long charging? This is a good question. I have no proof on that point but I think so. Continuing to keep current going through the battery once fully charged does not improve the battery capacity. The analysis I made on several smartphones shows that some of them stop the current while fully charged ( for example HTC touch Cruise) but most of them keep a charging current.
Samsung smartphones are difficult to analyse because they do not give any data on the current going through the battery
2°) Battery calibration will not improve the battery capacity: Once the battery capacity has been reduced, this is due to chemical changes in the battery, there are no way to repair it. What we could expect is to remove the battery shutdown artefact by adjusting internal parameters of the battery control circuit, so that the state of charge calculus will be more accurate again.
Some more details are given here: http://78michel.unblog.fr/htc-desire-battery-shutdown-analysis/ and in some other pages on this blog
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1°) Is battery life reduced after long charging? This is a good question. I have no proof on that point but I think so. Continuing to keep current going through the battery once fully charged does not improve the battery capacity. The analysis I made on several smartphones shows that some of them stop the current while fully charged ( for example HTC touch Cruise) but most of them keep a charging current.
Samsung smartphones are difficult to analyse because they do not give any data on the current going through the battery
2°) Battery calibration will not improve the battery capacity: Once the battery capacity has been reduced, this is due to chemical changes in the battery, there are no way to repair it. What we could expect is to remove the battery shutdown artefact by adjusting internal parameters of the battery control circuit, so that the state of charge calculus will be more accurate again.
Some more details are given here: http://78michel.unblog.fr/htc-desire-battery-shutdown-analysis/ and in some other pages on this blog
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thanks for the answer to questions1.
but I think I may have written question number 2 in a bad way which was not what I intended. I did not mean to ask if battery calibration increased battery life.
most people already know that it does not.
what I am asking is if battery life is suppose to be calibrated(?) right after you flash a new rom or kernel.
I asked this because I flash a lot and don't get good battery life. I'm not sure if its my device that is the problem or the constant flashing that causes this.
I have currently stopped flashing for 2 days now so I will report back if that was the problem.
anyways thank you for the reply
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To answer question 2, you do not need to calibrate the battery and flashing roms does not consider your battery bad. The community here does have different opinions on calibration but it wasn't too long ago I read an article where google devs came out and told everyone this isn't really needed.
I have had a droid incredible and now the gnex, and have flashed numerous roms. I have never calibrated my battery and typically experience pretty good battery life AFTER I have played with the phone and set it up and stopped turning on the screen ever 2 minutes
To answer question #1:
The battery is a Lithium Ion battery. Lithium Ion batteries like to be charged. You should keep them above 10% as often as possible and ideally plugged when ever you can. These types of batteries last longer with a constant charge than with out, the full "Drains" kill Lithium Ion batteries faster and should only be done when you are calibrating the device (on the first charge or two).
The confusion comes from the old rechargeable Nickel Cadmium batteries which lasted longer if you did a full charge and discharge as these had a "memory".
As far as question #2 goes that is personal preference. I have flashed my GNex 6 or so times now and have had no issues when I didn't re-calibrate it.
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To answer question #1:
The battery is a Lithium Ion battery. Lithium Ion batteries like to be charged. You should keep them above 10% as often as possible and ideally plugged when ever you can. These types of batteries last longer with a constant charge than with out, the full "Drains" kill Lithium Ion batteries faster and should only be done when you are calibrating the device (on the first charge or two).
The confusion comes from the old rechargeable Nickel Cadmium batteries which lasted longer if you did a full charge and discharge as these had a "memory".
As far as question #2 goes that is personal preference. I have flashed my GNex 6 or so times now and have had no issues when I didn't re-calibrate it.
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so are you saying that its good to keep my phone plugged in while I sleep?
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so are you saying that its good to keep my phone plugged in while I sleep?
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Yes. Because of the way it the chemical reaction works it is better to keep it charged (plugged in at night).
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Yes. Because of the way it the chemical reaction works it is better to keep it charged (plugged in at night).
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ok thanks for the explanation
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Li-ion batteries decreases in capacity over time NO MATTER WHAT YOU DO. (even if you don't use it)This is the down side in exchange for easy maintenance and high energy density.
In short, just use it normal, charge it when it gets low and stop worrying about the battery life.
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what I am asking is if battery life is suppose to be calibrated(?) right after you flash a new rom or kernel.
I asked this because I flash a lot and don't get good battery life. I'm not sure if its my device that is the problem or the constant flashing that causes this.
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I am not so clever with my English so I have not fully understood your 2nd question.
Flashing a new rom involve only the smartphone. Calibrating the battery is changing data stored inside the battery IC's memory.
These are two ''independant'' processes. The only relationship between them is that the some roms allows you to write in the battery memory and some others doesn't
What's average battery life you guys are getting with mod use ( variable term)?
x942 said:
To answer question #1:
The battery is a Lithium Ion battery. Lithium Ion batteries like to be charged. You should keep them above 10% as often as possible and ideally plugged when ever you can. These types of batteries last longer with a constant charge than with out, the full "Drains" kill Lithium Ion batteries faster and should only be done when you are calibrating the device (on the first charge or two).
The confusion comes from the old rechargeable Nickel Cadmium batteries which lasted longer if you did a full charge and discharge as these had a "memory".
As far as question #2 goes that is personal preference. I have flashed my GNex 6 or so times now and have had no issues when I didn't re-calibrate it.
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remember 10% is not 10% displayed charge. 0% is about 25% as manufacturers take into consideration battery technologies when designing them. it is also quite dangerous to charge from 0-20% on a Lion battery as the chemical reaction has to be reactivated. and over charging can cause a fire.
All calibrating does is make the battery indicator more accurate, it doesn't increase the charge, the supplied chargers and phone tech will not allow overcharging, and the phone will not discharge a battery to below 25% as battery discharge below 25% will damage the cells.
if you are interested look into Lion charging in the RC world. we need balancing boards with controllers when charging multiple cells, and we have to put them in fire bag just in case. it will give you a greater understanding of how lion and charging works.
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What's average battery life you guys are getting with mod use ( variable term)?
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Mine is pretty bad. I max out at 10 hours I'm trying Apex rom now hoping it will be better. Something tells me I need an extended battery.
7_michel said:
I am not so clever with my English so I have not fully understood your 2nd question.
Flashing a new rom involve only the smartphone. Calibrating the battery is changing data stored inside the battery IC's memory.
These are two ''independant'' processes. The only relationship between them is that the some roms allows you to write in the battery memory and some others doesn't
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Exactly right. And our nexus does not give us any access to the chip inside the battery, so there is no need to do any type of calibration with this phone. No roms can change this either due to the max17040 fuel gauge chip inside our batteries.
bluemoon1221 said:
what I am asking is if battery life is suppose to be calibrated(?) right after you flash a new rom or kernel.
I asked this because I flash a lot and don't get good battery life. I'm not sure if its my device that is the problem or the constant flashing that causes this.
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You got confused here. You are not calibrating the battery but how the OS interprets the battery data. The battery itself DOESN'T get calibrated. (And you cannot break a battery by flashing ROMs)
There's really nothing much you can do about the capacity of the battery itself as a normal user once it's been made in the factory.
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What's average battery life you guys are getting with mod use ( variable term)?
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my battery seems to be only capable of 2 hours of screen time despite using 3g/wifi, no nfc, no bluetooth, no sync, etc.
but I can still live with it.
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diablous said:
remember 10% is not 10% displayed charge. 0% is about 25% as manufacturers take into consideration battery technologies when designing them. it is also quite dangerous to charge from 0-20% on a Lion battery as the chemical reaction has to be reactivated. and over charging can cause a fire.
All calibrating does is make the battery indicator more accurate, it doesn't increase the charge, the supplied chargers and phone tech will not allow overcharging, and the phone will not discharge a battery to below 25% as battery discharge below 25% will damage the cells.
if you are interested look into Lion charging in the RC world. we need balancing boards with controllers when charging multiple cells, and we have to put them in fire bag just in case. it will give you a greater understanding of how lion and charging works.
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Thanks for that! Didn't know it displayed it differently. I only know how the chemical reaction works and such.
NP fella, thing is Lion is new tech and people still see it by the standards of older battery tech so it's taken for granted that 0% is 0%, and 100% is 100%. where this wouldn't be possible as too many issues would crop up. in RC racing we basically learn it inside out, as Battery types are better for different things. Endurance racing needs Ni-Cad as i prefers a sustained drain and will slow the car near the end of the charge, but keep going with reduced acceleration, while Ni-MH batteries are good, as they have better acceleration due to there properties, but suffer from being fine and suddenly suffering poor acceleration, you have no warning like the last lap. While Li-on are brilliant for one and off acceleration like sprints, or twisty tracks, but run at max power right til the end then just stop dead.
How do I Recalibrate the Note 4 battery? Mine keeps dying between 40%-60%
Montisaquadeis said:
How do I Recalibrate the Note 4 battery? Mine keeps dying between 40%-60%
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That's likely just a bad battery. Have you tried replacing it?
If you're rooted, are you running an abnormal size battery capacity? What ROM and kernel are you running?
Only calibration I'm aware of is charging fully with power off. Boot system and make sure it's fully charged. Discharge fully and recharge fully again. It's basically self calibrated but that may help to fully realize the max mAh in battery apps. Try not to use the phone while charging fully on those cycles.
I don't like discharging fully until shutdown but it's not supposed to harm the phone's memory doing that. With eMMC failures this phone is known for, bad battery and 0% shutdown or other battery shutdowns should be avoided when possible, IMO. Just a thought or suggestion.
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Phone is completely stock. Was planing to upgrade to the Note 7 but we all saw how that went. I need my SD Card so the Note 5 is out for me. Battery is stock as well. As for when it diess it depends on what I am doing if I am playing a game like emulators/Pokemon go it tends to die quicker and near 60% while lighter tasks like general web browsing and texting it tends to get closer to 40% before dying. So yeah its like the OS doesn't know the size of the battery right and it doesn't keep up on heavier loads.
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Phone is completely stock. Was planing to upgrade to the Note 7 but we all saw how that went. I need my SD Card so the Note 5 is out for me. Battery is stock as well. As for when it diess it depends on what I am doing if I am playing a game like emulators/Pokemon go it tends to die quicker and near 60% while lighter tasks like general web browsing and texting it tends to get closer to 40% before dying. So yeah its like the OS doesn't know the size of the battery right and it doesn't keep up on heavier loads.
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Theory is a bad cell shuts down depending on load. So the % at shutdown for bad battery may vary. Camera use or gaming may load it and shut it down quicker.
The battery is actually only rated at 500 full cycles. Depending on use, that may last a year, maybe two years with good battery habits but it breaks down.
If it's been a year since replaced that's probably the reason. Some users may not get a year out of a new battery.
If batteries aren't stored properly, their shelf life may not be ideal for longevity. If you want to keep spares, they should be stored at 50% capacity for maximum effectiveness. So if you order an older stored battery and it arrives near dead, it's been stored improperly and too long; these batteries have very little drain when not used.
A fresher battery or properly stored should last the end user longer.
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Hello XDA!
I'm here seeking for some advice.
I'm a happy owner of an LG G4 since November 2015.
Phone has been running great (minus boot-loop, now fixed, last September).
Recently I've been noticing battery drains much faster, with the same usage as usual.
I know battery life is a thing, but having never changed a battery, I'm not sure if that means it's time to replace it yet.
I've been using 'Accubattery' for a few days, and out of 3000mAh, it reports 1980mAh, 66% health. Voltage is pretty much always at 3/4 (above 4mV, the bars turns orange sometimes aswell. Not sure if that means something)
Having never used this app before, I wanted to have a second opinion about this result, before I spend money on a new battery.
Notes:
- Last week I decided to try Resurrection Remix, and battery has been going pretty great. Although I reverted back to stock due the lack of a proper camera app/loss of camera features.
- I've been testing various kernels these days. SimpleGX is the one I've been using for the longest, and the early days (months ago) battery life has been great with it. I still use SimpleGX, but battery life drains by 1% every 10 minutes the screen is on more or less.
- In the past, when I was still using the phone fully stock, it used to get really hot (once it even triggered the 'overheating' error). I heard heat could drastically reduce battery life, so maybe... Overheating hasn't been an issue since I started using SimpleGX.
Thanks in advance.
I think all of us LG G4 owners who had owned it for more than a year has been complaining of short bad battery life just like me, on Accubattery app my battery health is currently at 72% (2152 mah out of 3000 mah), like I get maximum 3.5 hours SOT , So I think it's best time for most people to buy a new battery but for me I'm used to a power bank. In few months time I can't wait to purchase an LG G6! I'm giving more time to the LG G4 because in few months time let's see if my battery health drops below 72% of health. Can't say if the battery used to the heat from the CPU specially while charging? That heat might have degraded the capacity of the battery Happy that the LG G6 has thermal pipes and a much better CPU SD 821 that might not heat the battery in long term use
It could be time. If you ever played games heavily like pokemon go or done anything in general which sustained heat long term, it will slowly kill your battery health. With that being said these batteries do tend to go bad pretty quick especially after around the 1 year mark. I personally opted for the power bear extended battery and and nothing but good to report since then. I highly would recommend going for a new battery. Easy and cheap solution
Not a fan of Pokemon Go, but while using it completely stock, it often went hot for long time.
It stopped only after I started using a custom kernel, but I'd say I spent about 6 months with that already.
Not a fan of those extended battery, mainly due the aesthetic factor, but that's more a personal thing.
I will be ordering a new battery soon (Aukey one). Thanks for the advice
Is the 13 beta 4.1 is better than 12 in terms of battery life?
How is the battery life for heavy users?
avivasaf said:
Is the 13 beta 4.1 is better than 12 in terms of battery life?
How is the battery life for heavy users?
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How does being corpulent have anything to do with battery life?
I would say that it is not as good as A12 stable. However, this could just be due to that fact that it is still a beta image. There will be an official release of A13 images in the near future. So, if I were you, I would wait until the official release before updating.
Battery life is miles better on A13 it's hard for me to kill the battery on A13, after a full 12 hours I still have around 20-30% left, and that's with music and YouTube and cod mobile and daily use of course
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Battery life is miles better on A13 it's hard for me to kill the battery on A13, after a full 12 hours I still have around 20-30% left, and that's with music and YouTube and cod mobile and daily use of course
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On 4.1?
I'm unsure if i have a dodgy handset because I had crappy battery life on both A12 and A13.
That being said, I did get my phone near enough launch so unsure if it's just a weird early batch
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I'm unsure if i have a dodgy handset because I had crappy battery life on both A12 and A13.
That being said, I did get my phone near enough launch so unsure if it's just a weird early batch
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I also got mine around launch and my battery capacity is at around 94% now.. so that slightly contributes to battery life too
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I'm unsure if i have a dodgy handset because I had crappy battery life on both A12 and A13.
That being said, I did get my phone near enough launch so unsure if it's just a weird early batch
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You probably don't have a dodgy handset.
I know that people most generally, skeptically ignore my comments on cases and heat retention being one of the worst contributing factors to the shorter battery life on some Pixel 6 devices - but it's disturbingly true. At the end of a day with light usage, my phone is usually sitting between 10-20% battery remaining. But, if I remove my case for a day over the weekend and put my phone through the same usage pattern (or possibly more), the battery is usually sitting between 20-40% by nightfall.
I kid ya not, but heat retention with this particular phone happens to cause the battery to drain faster than many may find fit =). And just a pro tip, but generally speaking, any phone chips manufactured by Samsung tend to generate a bit more heat than the alternative chips that are available.
*Edit* - To clarify, Google's Tensor chip was indeed manufactured by Samsung.
*Edit 2.0* - I had forgotten to mention that leaving 5G enabled also has a relatively large impact on the battery drain when the device's temperature stays high. So, if you have battery problems, try disabling 5G before bed and see what happens with your battery usage the following day.
Battery life is abysmal on the stock 12. I keep reading that Google is running tons of services in the background but have no proof of that. If so and if they are for marketing rather than usability, Google should rethink its strategy, because, after this, I am not getting yet another Pixel. I swore the same after the Pixel 3XL, but this time I have learned my lesson.
I love the camera and it would be a great phone for traveling, but if I use Maps and take 20-40 photos, the P6P dies in about 6 hrs. If I listen to Youtube with the screen off, it dies even sooner.
I even turn off 5G, which should not be required on a phone for which I paid over $1k.
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I know that people most generally, skeptically ignore my comments on cases and heat retention being one of the worst contributing factors to the shorter battery life on some Pixel 6 devices - but it's disturbingly true. At the end of a day with light usage, my phone is usually sitting between 10-20% battery remaining. But, if I remove my case for a day over the weekend and put my phone through the same usage pattern (or possibly more), the battery is usually sitting between 20-40% by nightfall.
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The battery life is really terrible and I have the feeling that those who are happy come from older Pixels with even worse batteries.
I will try it without a case for a few days. I looked for bumpers only and while there are some nice aluminum ones for the iPhone, there is nothing for the Pixels. So if you are right and battery life is better without a case, we don't even have the option of protecting just the edges
NippleSauce said:
You probably don't have a dodgy handset.
I know that people most generally, skeptically ignore my comments on cases and heat retention being one of the worst contributing factors to the shorter battery life on some Pixel 6 devices - but it's disturbingly true. At the end of a day with light usage, my phone is usually sitting between 10-20% battery remaining. But, if I remove my case for a day over the weekend and put my phone through the same usage pattern (or possibly more), the battery is usually sitting between 20-40% by nightfall.
I kid ya not, but heat retention with this particular phone happens to cause the battery to drain faster than many may find fit =). And just a pro tip, but generally speaking, any phone chips manufactured by Samsung tend to generate a bit more heat than the alternative chips that are available.
*Edit* - To clarify, Google's Tensor chip was indeed manufactured by Samsung.
*Edit 2.0* - I had forgotten to mention that leaving 5G enabled also has a relatively large impact on the battery drain when the device's temperature stays high. So, if you have battery problems, try disabling 5G before bed and see what happens with your battery usage the following day.
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Exynos chips are notoriously hot and Google have basically made an even hotter one by giving Tensor two X-1 cores.
13 stable on my phone takes forever to charge the battery doesn't matter if it's wireless or with the cord.. Totally blows
I tried using the phone without a case for a couple of days and did not notice any improvement in terms of battery life.
I just updated to Android 13 final OTA and am crossing my fingers that there is at least some battery life optimization since Google must be aware of all the complaints.
Such a large battery should last considerably longer than it does on the Pixel 6 Pro.